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Topic: The World's Largest Airline Outside The US
Username: TriJetFan1
Posted 2004-07-18 05:58:57 and read 8714 times.

What is the largest airline outside the United States?
This is an add-on from World's largest airline by BushCheney04

Topic: RE: The World's Largest Airline Outside The US
Username: JAL777
Posted 2004-07-18 06:05:05 and read 8693 times.

I think its Lufthansa.

Topic: RE: The World's Largest Airline Outside The US
Username: PHLapproach
Posted 2004-07-18 06:10:37 and read 8675 times.

I don't really know. Someone else could help, but I would think BA.

Topic: RE: The World's Largest Airline Outside The US
Username: Hoya
Posted 2004-07-18 06:19:04 and read 8664 times.

Not 100% sure, but isn't it Air France-KLM? I know that it is the largest airline in Europe.

Topic: RE: The World's Largest Airline Outside The US
Username: Thunderbird1
Posted 2004-07-18 06:41:38 and read 8644 times.

I would guess British Airways. Singapore is huge internationally but obviously has little domestic business.

Topic: RE: The World's Largest Airline Outside The US
Username: N670UW
Posted 2004-07-18 06:51:01 and read 8622 times.

In terms of revenue passenger kilometers (RPK), it would be...

...British Airways.

1. American
2. United
3. Delta
4. Northwest
5. British Airways
6. Continental
7. Lufthansa
8. Southwest
9. Singapore Airlines
10. Air France/KLM


670

Topic: RE: The World's Largest Airline Outside The US
Username: UA777222
Posted 2004-07-18 07:03:06 and read 8611 times.

So that would make One World the largest alliance? Or do the MANY members of the Star Alliance beat them. (PAX #'s). What are the largest Alliances? Is CO, DL, or NW part of any form of Alliance?

Thanks again!

UA777222

Topic: RE: The World's Largest Airline Outside The US
Username: KFly
Posted 2004-07-18 07:37:04 and read 8580 times.

According to this CNN news article, Southwest Airlines is the world largest airline by MARKET VALUE. Singapore Airlines is the second largest (by market value).

http://edition.cnn.com/2004/TRAVEL/07/16/bt.singapoere.air.reut/index.html

I guess having a large fleet doesn't necessary means that the airline is worth more.


K

Topic: RE: The World's Largest Airline Outside The US
Username: Carnoc
Posted 2004-07-18 09:57:13 and read 8479 times.

According to Air Transport World (July 2004), the world's largest carrier outside the U.S. are as following:

In Operating Revenue
Lufthansa Group (Ranked as World's No 1)

In Operating Profit
British Airways (Ranked as World's No 1)

In Net Profit
SIA Group (Ranked as World's No 2)

In RPKs
Air France (Ranked as World's No 5)

In Passengers
JAL Group (Ranked as World's No 5)

In FTKs
Lufthansa Group (Ranked as World's No 2)

In Operating Fleet Size
Air France (Ranked as World's No 9)

Cheers.

Topic: RE: The World's Largest Airline Outside The US
Username: AC
Posted 2004-07-18 12:06:35 and read 8362 times.

In Net Profit
SIA Group (Ranked as World's No 2)


which US airline is more profitable than SIA?

Topic: RE: The World's Largest Airline Outside The US
Username: Aussie747
Posted 2004-07-18 12:17:32 and read 8344 times.


"which US airline is more profitable than SIA? "

Southwest?




Topic: RE: The World's Largest Airline Outside The US
Username: Navairjax
Posted 2004-07-18 12:19:11 and read 8343 times.

UA777222,

DL is part of SkyTeam which CO and NW are set to join in the fall.

Topic: RE: The World's Largest Airline Outside The US
Username: Carnoc
Posted 2004-07-18 12:24:15 and read 8334 times.

To AC & Aussie747,

It says that US Airways is more profitable than SIA Group with a Net Profit (000) of $1,461,000.

SIA Group was $498,650.

Cheers.

Topic: RE: The World's Largest Airline Outside The US
Username: Carnoc
Posted 2004-07-18 12:28:02 and read 8319 times.

In addition to earlier post, the magazine did say that the net profit of US Airways was pro forma, calculated by ATW. US Airways booked a $1.9 billion non-cash gain upon exiting Chaper 11 March 31, 2003. Excluding unusual items, the carrier had a pre-tax loss of $655 million.

Cheers.

Topic: RE: The World's Largest Airline Outside The US
Username: Frugalqxnwa
Posted 2004-07-18 13:58:58 and read 8249 times.

At one time it was Aeroflot, man how times do change (and for the better in terms of the Cold War being over).

Topic: RE: The World's Largest Airline Outside The US
Username: Mspphl
Posted 2004-07-18 19:33:57 and read 7632 times.

I notice that NW has now been jumped by Southwest. Southwest is the 3rd largest airline when looking at Enplaned Passengers. NWA reports themselves as the "5th largest airline", no longer the 4th. Going by Enplaned Passengers, Southwest is in the #3 slot easily. But the carriers with International service generally log more RPMs and therefore makes it difficult for the domestic LCCs to move ahead up. If anyone does, it will/is WN.

-MSPPHL

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Topic: British Airways
Username: TriJetFan1
Posted 2004-07-19 00:46:56 and read 6732 times.

how many international routes does BA serve that does not include any arrival/destination in the UK??

Topic: RE: The World's Largest Airline Outside The US
Username: Dexter
Posted 2004-07-19 01:04:25 and read 6673 times.

"It says that US Airways is more profitable than SIA Group with a Net Profit (000) of $1,461,000."

LOL  Big thumbs up


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