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Topic: Edwards Plane Has An Aborted Takeoff
Username: Jfkaua
Posted 2004-10-15 23:53:52 and read 9674 times.

Just saw this on tv here.. figured i'd post it...They said that Edward's aircraft experienced a problem with a generator on the take off roll and it was aborted. anyone know exactly what happened? They showed the aircraft on the tarmac... looked like a 727

Topic: RE: Edwards Plane Has An Aborted Takeoff
Username: Pilottim747
Posted 2004-10-16 02:16:50 and read 9291 times.

Here's the flight info. I had it posted in a different thread but I guess it got deleted.

Champion Air, CCP2661
BKL to BWI
Scheduled: 4:00pm-4:50pm
Actual: 6:00pm-6:49pm
Aircraft: B727-200
Reg: N679MG


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Topic: RE: Edwards Plane Has An Aborted Takeoff
Username: Isitsafenow
Posted 2004-10-16 02:42:04 and read 9162 times.

Sounds like compressor snarl....the engine quit..happened alot on three holers.
safe

Topic: RE: Edwards Plane Has An Aborted Takeoff
Username: Falcon84
Posted 2004-10-16 05:09:22 and read 8856 times.

I read an article that said it took off from Hopkins Airport. Amazing how lazy reporters can be sometime.  Big grin

Topic: RE: Edwards Plane Has An Aborted Takeoff
Username: Jjbiv
Posted 2004-10-16 05:23:15 and read 8781 times.

You must have forgotten that facts simply don't matter when a democrat is being discussed in the media  Laugh out loud

joe

Topic: RE: Edwards Plane Has An Aborted Takeoff
Username: HlywdCatft
Posted 2004-10-16 05:41:53 and read 8713 times.

So I take it Edwards is going to be coming in to Daytona on another aircraft Sunday

Topic: RE: Edwards Plane Has An Aborted Takeoff
Username: Acidradio
Posted 2004-10-16 07:03:52 and read 8515 times.

Maybe his aircraft will just never get repaired and never go anywhere and he can just walk to his next stop. I love how the Dems claim to be "of the people" yet gallivant across America in their own private jets like they are taking the subway around town.

Topic: RE: Edwards Plane Has An Aborted Takeoff
Username: Garnetpalmetto
Posted 2004-10-16 07:15:44 and read 8483 times.

I love how the Dems claim to be "of the people" yet gallivant across America in their own private jets like they are taking the subway around town.

This is normal in campaigns. If memory serves, Bush did the same thing in '00. And hell, he gets to use the executive fleet for his campaign stops. It's hardly a partisan thing.

Topic: RE: Edwards Plane Has An Aborted Takeoff
Username: DLKAPA
Posted 2004-10-16 07:17:45 and read 8477 times.

Jesus F-ing christ people!

Why are you turning THIS into a mudslinging match?

Topic: RE: Edwards Plane Has An Aborted Takeoff
Username: L-188
Posted 2004-10-16 07:24:14 and read 8441 times.

The pilot was committed to take-off before he was against it.

Topic: RE: Edwards Plane Has An Aborted Takeoff
Username: Cannikin
Posted 2004-10-16 07:32:34 and read 8404 times.

Perhaps they found WMD's on board....Nope not there either?

[Edited 2004-10-16 07:35:18]

Topic: RE: Edwards Plane Has An Aborted Takeoff
Username: DLKAPA
Posted 2004-10-16 07:33:55 and read 8397 times.

The pilot was committed to take-off before he was against it.

Flip-flopping has its advantages  Laugh out loud

Topic: RE: Edwards Plane Has An Aborted Takeoff
Username: HlywdCatft
Posted 2004-10-16 08:04:26 and read 8329 times.

**""I love how the Dems claim to be "of the people" yet gallivant across America in their own private jets like they are taking the subway around town.""**

Not like I like either one of these guys but Bush is going around campaigning on Air Force One at Tax Payer expense. I am sure fuel costs for flying it around aren't coming out of his pocket

Topic: RE: Edwards Plane Has An Aborted Takeoff
Username: KITH
Posted 2004-10-16 08:58:15 and read 8221 times.

Tho im a bigt kerry supporter, Bush should be in AF1, he is the commander in chief and needs the added safety/options. As for dems galavanting around? Its part of the game, if you want to win you have to spend like a winner. Tho bush is supposed to reimburse for campaign trips, they never do (clinton, bush, regan etc). -Matt in KITH

Topic: RE: Edwards Plane Has An Aborted Takeoff
Username: L-188
Posted 2004-10-16 09:07:56 and read 8154 times.

Actually HlywdCatft, the campaign is required to reimburse the Air Force, the equivelt of what commercial travel would have cost.

The theory being is that the president shouldn't be penalized for using an expensive military airplane like the VC-25 at the insistance of the secret service and to make sure all the communications he needs for his job are with him, but at the same time, he does need to pay for his travel.

Topic: RE: Edwards Plane Has An Aborted Takeoff
Username: Jcded
Posted 2004-10-16 09:11:02 and read 8134 times.

I believe Bush is entitled to AF1 but I believe that if the trip is for campaign purposes then there should be some contribution from his re-election campaign coffers, its a hidden subsidy for re-election.

Topic: RE: Edwards Plane Has An Aborted Takeoff
Username: Jonathan L
Posted 2004-10-16 11:17:27 and read 7612 times.

Acidradio.... When you run for president or vice president, you fly in your own plane. If Kerry and Edwards were flying around on Southwest or riding Amtrak, you'd be laughing at them for being cheap.

It's a $250 million business, more or less, and it obviously requires the flexibility of a personal charter. Bashing them for chartering jets as Bush campaigns with Air Force One is quite unfair.

Jcded, I believe that when AF1 is used to fly to campaign events, the Bush "re-"election campaign has to pay a few first class fares for his campaign advisors that fly on the airplane. I bet he's paying much less for airfare than Kerry and Edwards are, but that's just an advantage that the incumbent president has.

Topic: RE: Edwards Plane Has An Aborted Takeoff
Username: Glideslope
Posted 2004-10-16 13:11:19 and read 7183 times.


I'll bet Nader takes the Subway!!!!

p.s. If anyone is interested, I'll take this thread even further off topic with an Airbus vs WTO post?

Topic: RE: Edwards Plane Has An Aborted Takeoff
Username: Tjwgrr
Posted 2004-10-16 13:50:28 and read 7005 times.

I'm sure Kerry supported the "aborted" take-off. It's the pilot's right to choose you know......

Topic: RE: Edwards Plane Has An Aborted Takeoff
Username: Jalalabad
Posted 2004-10-16 13:51:47 and read 6995 times.

daymn, that is one ugly livery

Topic: RE: Edwards Plane Has An Aborted Takeoff
Username: Moose1226
Posted 2004-10-16 16:57:05 and read 5843 times.

I'll bet Nader takes the Subway!!!!

No, actually he drives his Prius.  Smile

[Edited 2004-10-16 16:57:42]

Topic: RE: Edwards Plane Has An Aborted Takeoff
Username: Isitsafenow
Posted 2004-10-16 17:03:21 and read 5794 times.

Hey Moose...Nader does not HAVE a drivers license and never did. Thats a fact and he has stated that many times.
Happy Landings.......
safe

Topic: RE: Edwards Plane Has An Aborted Takeoff
Username: Dtw9
Posted 2004-10-16 17:51:39 and read 5404 times.

I heard that Edwards had stopped at Wendy's to pick up lunch to bring to Kerry, but had to abort when he found that they forgot to put kecthup in for the lies

Topic: RE: Edwards Plane Has An Aborted Takeoff
Username: Jfkaua
Posted 2004-10-16 18:37:43 and read 5042 times.

mayor bloomberg in ny takes the subway to work every day..

Topic: RE: Edwards Plane Has An Aborted Takeoff
Username: Afay1
Posted 2004-10-16 18:45:35 and read 4961 times.

Anyway, it is cool that they are using a 727, which is very distinctive. It adds a touch of class being such a beautiful aircraft, whatever your politics may be. In any case the dem campaign actually has used Amtrack a lot, making whistle stops along the way in their own carriage....

Topic: RE: Edwards Plane Has An Aborted Takeoff
Username: Redngold
Posted 2004-10-16 23:12:43 and read 3229 times.

FYI - local media reporting it was a warning light. Edwards' plane finally departed around 6:00 PM local time.

WEWS/Cleveland ABC affliate:
http://www.newsnet5.com/news/3825759/detail.html

Topic: RE: Edwards Plane Has An Aborted Takeoff
Username: Flybyguy
Posted 2004-10-17 03:18:19 and read 2738 times.

Not only is flying commercial for all those campaign stops its impractical for any candidate Republican or Democrat. The fact of the matter is that candidates need flexible airtravel because on the campaign trail last minute changes are the norm. So chartering is the way to go.

Topic: RE: Edwards Plane Has An Aborted Takeoff
Username: Jetjock22
Posted 2004-10-17 06:22:12 and read 2574 times.

The 757 that Jackass flies around in looks even uglier. I saw it at CMH today and made sure to give it the one finger salute on the way past.  Smile

Topic: RE: Edwards Plane Has An Aborted Takeoff
Username: N1120a
Posted 2004-10-17 06:46:33 and read 2494 times.

It is too bad Bush never uses the 757s, or 737s for that matter, that he has at his disposal. Would save US taxpayers a lot of money.

Topic: RE: Edwards Plane Has An Aborted Takeoff
Username: AviatorTJ
Posted 2004-10-17 09:05:45 and read 2421 times.

This is a classic instance of "You get what you pay for." Does anyone remember if Bush made Cheney ride in a broke down 727? That thing looks rather dilapidated.

Topic: RE: Edwards Plane Has An Aborted Takeoff
Username: Garnetpalmetto
Posted 2004-10-17 09:32:20 and read 2397 times.

Well it was built in '82 and prior to Champion getting ahold of it, NW owned it until about a year ago, so it's seen a bit of service


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Topic: RE: Edwards Plane Has An Aborted Takeoff
Username: DC3CV3407ac727
Posted 2004-10-17 14:24:10 and read 2301 times.

actually it is one of our VIP configured airplanes(59 seats) and is immaculate inside and out,the captain made the right decision, the mechanics addressed the issue and they were on their merry way shortly after, by the way,the 727 still rules!

Topic: RE: Edwards Plane Has An Aborted Takeoff
Username: L-188
Posted 2004-10-17 15:00:23 and read 2280 times.

You better be carefull DC3CV340ac727.

Edwards is a trial attorny.

He is libel to sue to get costs back for the delay.

Topic: RE: Edwards Plane Has An Aborted Takeoff
Username: N801DM
Posted 2004-10-17 18:47:50 and read 2194 times.

It is too bad Bush never uses the 757s, or 737s for that matter, that he has at his disposal.

He uses the 757 when they are going to shorter fields that the VC-25 cannot get into such as Flagstaff. Saw it two years ago when we were flying a Press corps charter.

Regards,

N801DM


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