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Topic: Snow Could Cause Transport Disruption In Britain
Username: BCNGRO
Posted 2004-11-16 23:51:23 and read 1998 times.

The British Met Office has recently issued an "Advance Warning of Severe Weather" forecasting heavy snow affecting Scotland, Northern Ireland, North West England, North East England, The Midlands, Wales and East Anglia and Lincolnshire on Thursday and Friday (http://www.met-office.gov.uk/). It says that accumulations of several cm combined with strong northerly winds could cause disruption to transport. It seems it's going to be cold!  Nuts

Do you think it is likely that British airports are going to be "disrupted"? Which airports in this regions do you thing are less prepared to face a situation like that? Some friends of mine are flying to MME on Friday morning, do you thing this airport could work normally during "heavy snow" conditions?

Thanks  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Have a nice day!

Topic: RE: Snow Could Cause Transport Disruption In Britain
Username: Rtfm
Posted 2004-11-17 00:00:49 and read 1958 times.

Well with any BAA run airport even the hint of a snowflake is apt to cause their operation to grind (or should that be skid) to a halt...  Sad

Topic: RE: Snow Could Cause Transport Disruption In Britain
Username: Babybus
Posted 2004-11-17 00:35:12 and read 1923 times.

You might remember the "Rain" fiasco we had in the summer where LHR stopped operating for an afternoon because it rained. I mean that wasn't the first time it ever rained in London. Snow could be a problem however as LHR can grind to a complete halt due to someone near the tarmac with dandruff. Leaves are also now liable to cause flight delays and cancelations.

British Rail used to hold the book of useless excuses but it seems BAA have now taken a few photocopies.

"Plane cancelled due to staff shortages". That must be due to crop up at a BAA airport near you soon.

Topic: RE: Snow Could Cause Transport Disruption In Britain
Username: RupesNZ
Posted 2004-11-17 00:40:19 and read 1911 times.

Yeah I remember new technology to handle snow on the tracks, until they got the wrong sort of snow, the following week it was swans on the tracks....

The Brits are useless with weather, the merest hint of anything other than their normal perpetual drizzle means a complete shut down of air/land/sea and rail.

Topic: RE: Snow Could Cause Transport Disruption In Britain
Username: Catatonic
Posted 2004-11-17 00:53:49 and read 1896 times.

Is it true that MAN has heaters under its runways??

Topic: RE: Snow Could Cause Transport Disruption In Britain
Username: Lufthansa
Posted 2004-11-17 01:03:02 and read 1875 times.

I'd believe it, because around the Are region of Sweden at the same time, the temperature is predicted to drop to -15/-16, already! So, yes, if it is that cold there, i think snow in britian is quite on the cards.

Topic: RE: Snow Could Cause Transport Disruption In Britain
Username: BENNETT123
Posted 2004-11-17 01:20:01 and read 1852 times.


I think that -15 degrees C is a little unlikely.

Topic: RE: Snow Could Cause Transport Disruption In Britain
Username: Fbgdavidson
Posted 2004-11-17 01:24:43 and read 1847 times.

In the UK and excess of wind, rain, snow, hail, mist, sunshine causes disruption......

Topic: RE: Snow Could Cause Transport Disruption In Britain
Username: EGGD
Posted 2004-11-17 01:43:33 and read 1817 times.

I think you are reading too much into this weather warning. It will rain in most of the UK, there is just a chance that it may snow on the hills. The disruption will be on the roads where there may be more accidents/roads closed for whatever reason/traffic problems etc. The airports will largely go unaffected.

Topic: RE: Snow Could Cause Transport Disruption In Britain
Username: Lufthansa
Posted 2004-11-17 02:51:45 and read 1791 times.

BENNETT123

go and check out the weather forecast for the Swedish ski resort of Are.
(A with 'o' on top..can't do it properly using english keyboard.)

Its about in line with Trondhiem and Ostersund. Granted that is a fair way north, but it is still below the arctic circle and if supercold artic winds are sending that place so cold so early, I can't see why it can't affect the UK.

Topic: RE: Snow Could Cause Transport Disruption In Britain
Username: Skysurfer
Posted 2004-11-17 03:00:12 and read 1781 times.


Catatonic,
I don't know if MAN has heaters under the runways, but there is a system available that melts snow and ice when it lands on the ground. I don't know if MAN has this installed either, but one of the systems consists of a copper wire embedded in graphite and asphalt. The electric current runs through the copper wire and heats the surrounding area causing the snow and ice to melt.

Cheers

Topic: RE: Snow Could Cause Transport Disruption In Britain
Username: Starlionblue
Posted 2004-11-17 11:05:40 and read 1685 times.

Most of England (not for non-Britons: not the UK, England) is ill-equipped to handle heavy snow because it doesn't happen very often. Why invest heavily in equipment if it will only be used one or two days a year. There are better ways to use the money.

Topic: RE: Snow Could Cause Transport Disruption In Britain
Username: BENNETT123
Posted 2004-11-17 11:58:44 and read 1635 times.


Lufthansa

What I meant is that it is unlikely that we will get - 15 degrees C in Britain.

The lowest in my lifetime was -22 degrees C and that would have been in January not November.

Topic: RE: Snow Could Cause Transport Disruption In Britain
Username: Vadheim
Posted 2004-11-17 12:56:44 and read 1564 times.

Do'nt worry it wo'nt be that cold....

Only, 0C here in Oslo and no snow yet so Britain should be OK for a little while  Big grin

Topic: RE: Snow Could Cause Transport Disruption In Brita
Username: Foxy
Posted 2004-11-17 13:08:50 and read 1529 times.

Still supposed to be going to be the coldest winter in the past 30 years for the UK

Topic: RE: Snow Could Cause Transport Disruption In Brita
Username: Mhodgson
Posted 2004-11-17 16:46:00 and read 1417 times.

Catatonic - I don't think MAN has such a system, it did close one evening last winter for snow, so presumably snow can still affect ops.

Topic: RE: Snow Could Cause Transport Disruption In Britain
Username: SOU146
Posted 2004-11-17 20:28:15 and read 1322 times.

I'm off to Tallinn in February and have been today looking at the webcams which have showed its been snowing most the day over there (current temp is -3oC, 21.26 local time) - Could this be the snow coming our way....??

If it is, I doubt it will amount to much.

Topic: RE: Snow Could Cause Transport Disruption In Britain
Username: EZYAirbus
Posted 2004-11-17 20:37:36 and read 1305 times.

On the topic of snow, any chance there be some on ground in Dortmund on 29th November??

Glenn

Topic: RE: Snow Could Cause Transport Disruption In Britain
Username: Arsenal@LHR
Posted 2004-11-17 21:01:40 and read 1277 times.

I wouldn't be suprised if there was mass desruption due to the weather, Britain is a country allergic to shall i say "extreme" weather. An extra inch of snow or rain and the world stops spinning. If you ever get caught in any kind of disruption due to 4 inches of snow, it can be frustrating as hell.

Topic: RE: Snow Could Cause Transport Disruption In Britain
Username: FrequentFlyKid
Posted 2004-11-17 21:30:40 and read 1246 times.

Isn't this how "Day After Tomorrow" started? Just curious...

Topic: RE: Snow Could Cause Transport Disruption In Britain
Username: Sk945
Posted 2004-11-17 22:01:47 and read 1242 times.

Here in Stockholm we are waiting for the first snow to arrive tonight. It's expected to come between 10-20 cm during the night, with tempatures going down to -10 degrees C. tomorrow evening. And to that, its gona be really windy. So its winter tyres on today.
But it will have non or very little affect of the air traffic I guess.

This was really of topic, but hey, the first snow of the season is alwasy something special...


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