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Topic: Air Asia 40 Plane A320 Order Confirmed
Username: Sjoerd
Posted 2004-12-15 12:58:55 and read 4873 times.

It's almost official ! Actually this is hardly news anymore, we've grown used to the fact that Airbus wins the big single aisle orders.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20041215/bs_afp/malaysiaeuropetransportaircompanyairbusboeing_041215083738

Topic: Air Asia 40 Plane A320 Order Confirmed
Username: Scbriml
Posted 2004-12-15 14:41:35 and read 4678 times.

Boeing has made a couple of serious, very public gaffes this year. The "we'll have 200 7E7 sales in 2004" and "Air Asia is a must-win battle". Add on the firing of the top sales exec, and you get the impression that there are some serious issues behind the scenes.

Topic: Air Asia 40 Plane A320 Order Confirmed
Username: Sjoerd
Posted 2004-12-15 15:09:20 and read 4606 times.

Add the orders from Air Berlin, Air Nikki, TACA and Vietnam and Airbus has sold 124 A320s last month !!

Topic: Air Asia 40 Plane A320 Order Confirmed
Username: Dutchflyer
Posted 2004-12-16 12:38:33 and read 3716 times.

"Airbus has sold 124 A320s last month !!"

But at what price. Did Airbus make any money with these orders?

In many discussions in these forums people argue that Airbus is selling it's planes at or below cost.

Topic: Air Asia 40 Plane A320 Order Confirmed
Username: Agill
Posted 2004-12-16 12:44:01 and read 3693 times.

Well Airbus seem to be making pretty much money so I don't think they give away their planes very often.

Topic: Air Asia 40 Plane A320 Order Confirmed
Username: Scorpio
Posted 2004-12-16 12:55:27 and read 3647 times.

In many discussions in these forums people argue that Airbus is selling it's planes at or below cost.

And no-one on these boards has ever been able to justify those claims with anything remotely looking like proof. Meanwhile, Airbus is on its way to making a net profit of more than $1 billion this year (looking at the EADS report for the first 9 months). So... who would you rather believe?

Topic: Air Asia 40 Plane A320 Order Confirmed
Username: Widebody
Posted 2004-12-16 12:57:24 and read 3627 times.

Cash is king at the moment, such a deal will result in a lot of cash up front in the form of deposits which will ultimately aid the A350 drive.

Topic: Air Asia 40 Plane A320 Order Confirmed
Username: Tsentsan
Posted 2004-12-16 13:08:00 and read 3600 times.

News from the papers today said AK is buying each A320 for about $35US Million, inclusive of training and maintenance. Not bad a deal eh!

Topic: Air Asia 40 Plane A320 Order Confirmed
Username: Glideslope
Posted 2004-12-16 13:11:29 and read 3585 times.


If 35million US is correct, we have a Global Trade Crisis.

Topic: Air Asia 40 Plane A320 Order Confirmed
Username: KEESJE
Posted 2004-12-16 13:22:04 and read 3567 times.

AirAsia just confirmed.

Thursday December 16, 6:57 PM

Malaysia AirAsia Confirms To Buy 40 Airbus A320 Planes-2-
KUALA LUMPUR (Dow Jones)--Malaysia's AirAsia Bhd. (5099.KU) Thursday confirmed it is buying 40 Airbus A320 planes with an option for another 40 planes.

"The contract is worth approximately US$2.5 billion for the 40 firm orders," AirAsia - Southeast Asia's first listed low-cost carrier - said in a statement to the stock exchange.


http://sg.biz.yahoo.com/041216/15/3pasb.html

and 2.5/40 =62.5 million per aircraft.

Not that these nuymbers say everything, what's in/excluded?

Options on 40 more sounds good too.

Topic: Air Asia 40 Plane A320 Order Confirmed
Username: Boeing7E7
Posted 2004-12-16 13:23:36 and read 3553 times.

Judging by the rates Frontier is paying for the 318/319 aircraft ($88K/95k a month vs the average CRJ-200 at $108K a month) I'm not really surprised.

$35 million? They must be starting to write off sales loses.

Topic: Air Asia 40 Plane A320 Order Confirmed
Username: Sjoerd
Posted 2004-12-16 16:33:43 and read 3364 times.

It is only normal that when you buy a large amount of something that you get a discount !


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