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Topic: Transfer To IAD From ORD, What To Expect?
Username: UALramperORD
Posted 2005-05-05 00:19:16 and read 3289 times.

Hey all, this morning at work I was awarded a transfer for a full time position at IAD. I have 48 hours to get back to them with an answer, so I have a few questions. Whats IAD like operational wise (mainly UA, but other airlines) also where are the cheaper towns to libe in. Im thinking leesburg or manasas. Also just some general info on Dulles as well. I am curious to know this before I decide for sure.

Thanks

Topic: RE: Transfer To IAD From ORD, What To Expect?
Username: Eyesinthesky
Posted 2005-05-05 00:36:15 and read 3275 times.

Hey whats up?
I work at IAD and there are not any real "cheap towns" around the airport. It depends on the length of commute you are looking for. Some of the areas I would look in are Sterling, Ashburn,Centreville and Manassas. It would make your commute from about 10minutes for Sterling and Ashburn to about 20-30 minutes for Centreville and Manassas. Prices for those cities are moderate. If you would like a 30-45 minute commute the cheaper cities are Woodbridge and Winchester. Prices for those will be low-moderate.

As for your other question: sometimes IAD can be a complete ZOO!! The airport is not laid out well at the moment. A lot of construction is underway, but dont expect to see any relief from the mess anytime soon. There are 8 Star carriers at IAD soon to be 9. Air Canada, ANA, Austrian, bmi, Lufthansa, SAS, US Airways, United Airlines. Soon to be South African starting in July.

Hope this info helps you

brgds
EyEs (@)(@)

Topic: RE: Transfer To IAD From ORD, What To Expect?
Username: UALramperORD
Posted 2005-05-05 00:58:30 and read 3251 times.

Sure does, Thanks for the info, and as for IAD being a zoo, it probiualy does not compare to ORD around 4 in the afternoon. Thanks again for the info and mabey ill catch you out there.

Topic: RE: Transfer To IAD From ORD, What To Expect?
Username: UALramperORD
Posted 2005-05-05 01:00:12 and read 3247 times.

One more quick question, is the drivers test easy for IAD or is it complicated, also do you need a safety vest on the ramp? In ORD you do and it gets hung up on everything and becomes a pain in the as*.

Topic: RE: Transfer To IAD From ORD, What To Expect?
Username: Eyesinthesky
Posted 2005-05-05 01:03:46 and read 3244 times.

I notice a lot of rampers in the bright colored vests. It is not a requirement as far as I know. I am in pax service but I am usually on the ramp atleast once a day during the final minutes. The drivers test is a piece of cake!! There is a study guide you can pick up at ID office. It is a computer based test.

brgds
Eyes

Topic: RE: Transfer To IAD From ORD, What To Expect?
Username: UALramperORD
Posted 2005-05-05 01:06:21 and read 3241 times.

Once again thank you for the info. I have to tell UA tommorow if im going or not. More than likely I am. The next big step is to find a place to crash Smile BTW, do you work for UA as well?

Topic: RE: Transfer To IAD From ORD, What To Expect?
Username: Eyesinthesky
Posted 2005-05-05 01:10:28 and read 3237 times.

I dont work for UA, but I work for one of the other Star Carriers.

EyEs

Topic: RE: Transfer To IAD From ORD, What To Expect?
Username: TWA902fly
Posted 2005-05-05 01:29:23 and read 3220 times.

My dad lived in Centreville followed by Manassas, both of which are good places to live as far as i remember. Centreville moreso than Manassas as far as i remember. Also i've visited people in Bristow, which is to the west of Manassas, and an area i really liked.

'902

Topic: RE: Transfer To IAD From ORD, What To Expect?
Username: DLKAPA
Posted 2005-05-05 01:30:32 and read 3217 times.

Quoting UALramperORD (Thread starter):
Also just some general info on Dulles as well.

It's an airport.  Wink

Topic: RE: Transfer To IAD From ORD, What To Expect?
Username: ERJ145LR
Posted 2005-05-05 02:11:22 and read 3183 times.

Quoting Eyesinthesky (Reply 1):
There are 8 Star carriers at IAD soon to be 9. Air Canada, ANA, Austrian, bmi, Lufthansa, SAS, US Airways, United Airlines. Soon to be South African starting in July.

You forgot one...
BMI  Smile

Topic: RE: Transfer To IAD From ORD, What To Expect?
Username: UALramperORD
Posted 2005-05-05 02:22:53 and read 3165 times.

Quoting DLKAPA (Reply 8):
Quoting UALramperORD (Thread starter):
Also just some general info on Dulles as well.

It's an airport.

LOL, really? Tell me more Silly

Topic: RE: Transfer To IAD From ORD, What To Expect?
Username: DLKAPA
Posted 2005-05-05 02:24:55 and read 3162 times.

Quoting UALramperORD (Reply 10):
LOL, really? Tell me more

Planes land there sometimes.

Topic: RE: Transfer To IAD From ORD, What To Expect?
Username: Thucydides
Posted 2005-05-05 03:57:57 and read 3115 times.

Generally, the whole Northern Virginia area has been going gangbusters from a realestate perspective. Housing prices are up 15% from January 1 according to the Washington Post. To get a sense on prices, you could probably check the Washington Post website's realestate section. You could also check one of the local realtor's, such as Long and Foster (www.longandfoster.com) and plug in a city or county and get a sense of what you get.

Generally, the farther west of Washington DC you are, the cheaper it will be. Dulles, which is in Eastern Loudon County, is no longer "cheap." Even the Post had an article today about how Prince William County, which includes Manassas, is getting more expensive, which is putting pressure on teachers, firefighters, and police. Western Loudon county is mainly horse farms and large estates, but there have been major political fights between those who want to restrict growth in the county to preserve the landscape and the developers who are responding to the high demand for housing.

The winters are definitely better here than Chicago, though, and you are only a short drive from Dulles to the Shenendoah Valley and an hour to the Chesapeake Bay.

Good luck!

Topic: RE: Transfer To IAD From ORD, What To Expect?
Username: RDUDDJI
Posted 2005-05-05 04:03:48 and read 3108 times.

IAD is not too bad as an airport. Besides the Int'l bank around 4-7pm it's nothing special. I think UA only has like 100 flights/day here. UAX has about 300.

As far as living around here, it sucks. This is by far the worst place I've ever lived. It's a giant suburb with no identity. Sorry to burst your bubble, but unless you like living in the middle of nowhere, sitting in traffic everywhere you go because the nearest grocery store is 5 miles away, and paying a ridiculous amount of rent/mortgage to do so, then you probably won't like it. D.C. is a 45 minute drive on a good day.

FYI- Your profile says you're between 21-25/male. Just to let you know, there are virtually no single girls (or guys) in their 20's within about 15 miles of IAD. It's all married couples (with billions of kids) and old folks around here. Most of the people our age were smart enough to move out of this piece, either to D.C. or somewhere else. If you want to go out, you'll have to head to D.C., there just isn't much besides hotel bars out here.

Shoot me an e-mail if you have any more questions...

P.S. This week, I'm interviewing at WHQUA for a position here at IAD...

[Edited 2005-05-05 04:05:08]

[Edited 2005-05-05 04:06:24]

Topic: RE: Transfer To IAD From ORD, What To Expect?
Username: Loggat
Posted 2005-05-05 04:11:52 and read 3110 times.

Quoting Eyesinthesky (Reply 1):
There are 8 Star carriers at IAD soon to be 9. Air Canada, ANA, Austrian, bmi, Lufthansa, SAS, US Airways, United Airlines. Soon to be South African starting in July.



Quoting ERJ145LR (Reply 9):
You forgot one...
BMI

BMI and bmi aren't the same company, eh?  Smile

Topic: RE: Transfer To IAD From ORD, What To Expect?
Username: Jdaniel001
Posted 2005-05-05 06:23:36 and read 3049 times.

Here's the scoop...the real one. UA has 88 flights a day. 3/4 of them are on afternoons. The station has 3 zones. The drivers test is easy and unlike ORD, vests are not required. However, you already know that vest are required for R&D. If you get afternoons, it is split into 2 halves really, the first half has 90% of the international departures and some other junk, the second half has a LHR, FRA, GIG, and GRU. UA also handles BMI, Aeroflot, and Lufthansa. The only real danger is the damn people movers. The tires are as big as a CT and they will sneak up on you if your not careful. Living here is whole different ball of wax. But since you are from ORD, you are use to commutes and expensive apartments. IAD is a great place to work, you defiantly don't have the action of ORD, but you also don't have the winters either.

Topic: RE: Transfer To IAD From ORD, What To Expect?
Username: UALramperORD
Posted 2005-05-06 01:18:31 and read 2960 times.

Quoting RDUDDJI (Reply 13):
there are virtually no single girls (or guys)



Quoting RDUDDJI (Reply 13):
P.S. This week, I'm interviewing at WHQUA for a position here at IAD...

LOL, you had it right the first time, as for your interview, good luck and hopefully ill see you out there. I accepted the transfer today and by next week I should know whats up. Thanks for the info.

Quoting Jdaniel001 (Reply 15):
The only real danger is the damn people movers. The tires are as big as a CT and they will sneak up on you if your not careful

I heard that IAD is making tunnels like ATL and like the UA terminal at ORD?

Quoting Jdaniel001 (Reply 15):
IAD is a great place to work, you defiantly don't have the action of ORD, but you also don't have the winters either.

I Look forward to coming out there, and although its not as busy as ORD with a jet taking to the skies pretty much every minute, I look forward to the change of pace. As for working Aeroflot, what type of aircraft do they fly there? Also I take it you work for UA, how are the attitudes of the guys on the ramp and whats the cut off for F/T,P/T? I just got called for full time there?

Thanks for your replies everyone.

Topic: RE: Transfer To IAD From ORD, What To Expect?
Username: United_Fan
Posted 2005-05-06 01:39:08 and read 2946 times.

Aeroflot uses 763's . I'de rather get transferred to LAX,but that's just me  Smile

Topic: RE: Transfer To IAD From ORD, What To Expect?
Username: UALramperORD
Posted 2005-05-06 02:09:45 and read 2930 times.

Quoting United_Fan (Reply 17):
Aeroflot uses 763's . I'de rather get transferred to LAX,but that's just me

Eh, I like IADs surrounding area and scenery better.

Topic: RE: Transfer To IAD From ORD, What To Expect?
Username: United_fan
Posted 2005-05-06 02:17:33 and read 2921 times.

Yes,but I'm tiring of snow & cold ....

Topic: RE: Transfer To IAD From ORD, What To Expect?
Username: An-225
Posted 2005-05-06 02:23:59 and read 2914 times.

UALramperORD, good luck to you. I got furloughed a few days ago and miss working already. On a brighter note, I will be starting at SkyWest full-time at more than UA was paying me, and I got recall and transfer rights as well.

Again, good luck to you.

Alex.

Topic: RE: Transfer To IAD From ORD, What To Expect?
Username: Bicoastal
Posted 2005-05-06 02:27:07 and read 2910 times.

My neighbor is a part time ramper for United at Dulles. The United C and D gates are completely falling apart. These "temporary" structures were built 20 years ago and new ones (along with the subway between gates and terminals) won't be competed until 2010. There are mice and rats throughout the building. Tractors, belt loaders and tugs are in short supply and those around don't work....IAD always gets Chicago's leftovers. United Dulles is chronically understaffed due to the inability to hire part-timers to work at McDonald's wages between 2:30 pm and 6:30 pm...conflicts with other jobs they have to work due to the high cost of living. As for housing....you'll end up in West Virginia with the majority of United rampers at Dulles. It's still almost affordable but getting more and more expensive each day. Get ready for an hour to an hour and one half commute to work.

Vests will soon be required on the ramp...it's an FAA requirement and all stations and hubs are getting around to implementing it. Rampers transferring in to Dulles can't do R & D (Receipt and Dispatch) until they are trained at Dulles and the training program is spotty to non existent. So, enjoy the bag room.

Topic: RE: Transfer To IAD From ORD, What To Expect?
Username: UALramperORD
Posted 2005-05-06 02:44:19 and read 2890 times.

Quoting An-225 (Reply 20):
UALramperORD, good luck to you. I got furloughed a few days ago and miss working already. On a brighter note, I will be starting at SkyWest full-time at more than UA was paying me, and I got recall and transfer rights as well.

Again, good luck to you.

Alex.

Alex,

Sorry you got furloughed. Im sure you'll be back by the holiday rush, (always happened to me anyway). Good to hear you got on board with SkyWest. Im sure you'll enjoy it. I just got out of UAX transition training this week and its easy. Its also good to hear you are making more money with them, so good luck to you as well and I wish you the best. If you come through IAD this summer drop me an e-mail. Again, good luck.

Ryan

Topic: RE: Transfer To IAD From ORD, What To Expect?
Username: UALramperORD
Posted 2005-05-06 02:47:59 and read 2884 times.

Quoting Bicoastal (Reply 21):
Rampers transferring in to Dulles can't do R & D (Receipt and Dispatch) until they are trained at Dulles and the training program is spotty to non existent

So even though I am "qualified" by UAL to do R+D, qualification varies station by station?

Topic: RE: Transfer To IAD From ORD, What To Expect?
Username: CcrlR
Posted 2005-05-06 02:49:25 and read 2879 times.

I found out that UAL was hiring temporary Customer Service/Gate Agents at ORD and I was wondering about it. I would like to work for UA but I was a little skeptical with it's unions and them striking.

Topic: RE: Transfer To IAD From ORD, What To Expect?
Username: Bicoastal
Posted 2005-05-06 03:59:07 and read 2842 times.

Quoting UALramperORD (Reply 23):
So even though I am "qualified" by UAL to do R+D, qualification varies station by station?

All I can go on is what my neighbor says. He tells me there are rampers who've transferred from Baltimore who can't do R & D until they're "retrained" at United Dulles. You might check internally.

Quoting CcrlR (Reply 24):
I found out that UAL was hiring temporary Customer Service/Gate Agents at ORD and I was wondering about it. I would like to work for UA but I was a little skeptical with it's unions and them striking

Strike votes are taking place this week at hubs and stations by the IAM (ramp, reservations and customer service). Likely that the majority of IAM members will vote to authorize their leadership to call a strike at the "appropriate time." Flight Attendants union has said they'll honor the strike and not cross picket lines. Though there are questions about what takes precedence...bankruptcy law or the Railway Labor Act. Likely that if a strike is called, it will be tied up in court. My neighbor says employee moral stinks at Dulles.

You'll make more at Starbucks than United. As for flight benefits...your seniority is so low that you likely won't be able to travel on the very crowded United flights this summer. You'll be bumped from every flight by more senior employees and dead heading employees. Find a job elsewhere.

Topic: RE: Transfer To IAD From ORD, What To Expect?
Username: Jjbiv
Posted 2005-05-06 04:09:20 and read 2833 times.

What duties does R&D cover at UAL? I worked on the ramp for a regional at a small mid-west outstation for 2.5 years and I've never heard that term before.

joe

Topic: RE: Transfer To IAD From ORD, What To Expect?
Username: Bicoastal
Posted 2005-05-06 04:17:39 and read 2833 times.

Quoting Jjbiv (Reply 26):
What duties does R&D cover at UAL? I worked on the ramp for a regional at a small mid-west outstation for 2.5 years and I've never heard that term before.

Receipt and Dispatch....R & D....bringing in the aircraft (the one with the wands), hooking up ground power and airconditioning, pushing back the aircraft, communicating with the flight deck, wing walking, setting up the aircraft for overnights, towing aircraft, air starts, etc. My neighbor says it's two weeks of training at Dulles...safety issues are the key.


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