Hello

Whent to Heathrow today, had a great time, weather was good 

But I was taking the photo's, and a virgin A340-600 was on approach, and suddenly put engines on full power and started to increase in hight, My first real experience of seeing a Go-Around! And at a Busy airport too.....

My Question is, does anyone know why it whent around? It didn't seem as though there was something on the runway......................





Thanks

Jimmi

EDIT: Please click images for better image, they appear jagged here......

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Jimmi,

The Go-Around Is usually in effect when there is Traffic on the runway or pilot error.. Knowing LHR it was most possible due to Traffic on the runway not being able to clear the runway in time...

This happens more than you think...

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Could've been anything. If the pilot thought it didn't feel right, If they were too High, If they were too low...though the last one is easy to fix. Hard to say what caused the go-around.

At busy airports like LHR, go-arounds sometimes occur when traffic as not cleared the runway.....for example, the plane that landed for the Virgin flight was still at the end of the runway and not exited onto a taxi way. An aircraft delayed on the runway for a few second can mess up the arrival sequences; on a recent BA 744 flight into LHR we had a go-around for this reason - it took us over 20 minutes to get back into position to land.

Hi

Thanks, I know for a fact there was someone of the field with a radio that he found out why it whent around, if u was him, please reply! 

Thanks

Jimmi

Once i saw it happen to a KE 747F at LHR. It made one hell of a noise, the sudden change in climb rate was incredible too. It must be great fun being aboard one when it happends.

Hi

It was my first time to see a go-around and it was great, I was wondering what was going on when it got really load, but then it whent up and up, wheels up, and came back round after about 10 mins....

On the photo side of things, would u reckon with a bit of editing the 1st pic shown could have a little chance of getting on A.net????    


Thanks

Jimmi

Quoting European (Reply 6): 1st pic shown could have a little chance of getting on A.net????

Jimmi I would ask in the photography Forum...

Hi

Kaz, ok, but what u think?

Jimmi

Quoting European (Reply 6): On the photo side of things, would u reckon with a bit of editing the 1st pic shown could have a little chance of getting on A.net????

Why edit? Then it's not a real photo anymore. I hope edited photo's never will be allowed, it's not the 'real' thing...

Quoting KL911 (Reply 9): Why edit? Then it's not a real photo anymore. I hope edited photo's never will be allowed, it's not the 'real' thing...

Its the aircraft in the photo you are interested in.. If you was to look at a photo of an aircraft and find dust spots.. Exposed to the light...or Too dark you can hardly see any detail its not really worth looking at..

When you edit it you can really see the detail and see the quality you can get with a bit of effort..

Jimmi,

To me it looks Like the lighting was not on your side.. And I can see some grain.. But ask in the photography forum they would know a lot more than what I would...

Jimmi, That First photo is amazing. If you were going to edit it I suggest that you only decrease the Darkness. Other than That, It is brilliant.

AerLingus330

Those are amazing photos. I've never witnessed a go-around.

Quoting RJ111 (Reply 5):

It is!! Had one on a VS 744 at LHR returning from JFK - the whole thing shuddered and screamed back into the air - spent another hour up there waiting for another go!!

Hi Jimmi
We were there today and it was due to a small private jet
that had'nt vacated the runway in time.
it was very close!!!
one minute a small jet flew over and then a couple of secs later the 346 virgin was going round!!!!
it was just in front of us when it applied full throttle and gained height
a good days watching
and very strong winds!!!

Go arounds are very frequent at big and heavy traffic airports. I have seen them many times at MAD and JFK.

There are a number of factors that could of caused this go-around. It must of been absolutely necessary because often times, a go-around at a busy airport like LHR can keep you up in the sky for awhile before you get another chance at landing. Thankfully, I have never experienced a go-around, neither seen it or been on a plane doing it...it must very frightening!

Got woken up at the Holiday Inn on Bath Road by an EK 777-300 going around on 27R - amazing! Also seen plenty of BA busses going round.

I think someone said there are about 3 GAs a day at LHR?

I saw seven go-arounds at MSP between 1500 and 1900 on May 5th. 767, Saab 340, DC9, 717, E145, DC9, and B1900.

Mark

i see the photos perfectly fine. very clear, no editing needed

i have vidoetaped a bunch of go-arounds @ SFO.........777's, and 346's..both!

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 20): i have vidoetaped a bunch of go-arounds @ SFO.........777's, and 346's..both!

Hi Jacob!

Are these posted on the internet?

I once saw a Das Air Cargo DC-10 make a late go around at Gatwick, due to it being to low, and i was pretty much underneath it. Now that was loud! Especially as it was a late go around, so it was very low and would have needed probably a full throttle to get going again.

Most go-arounds that i have seen have involved a foreign airline. Mainly because the British Airways pilots would fly in and out of LHR/LGW day in day out and would no where to turn off the runway where etc. In fact most go arounds are caused by pilots trying to slow down for one runway exit, going past it because they are going too fast, and then having to trundle slowly onto the next turning.

stephen

Quoting Planesarecool (Reply 22): In fact most go arounds are caused by pilots trying to slow down for one runway exit, going past it because they are going too fast, and then having to trundle slowly onto the next turning.

I very much doubt it.

True that airlines try to make a preference for a certain runway exit, but this is so they can save fuel.

The extra fuel costs of a go-around far out weigh the cost of leaving the runway at a later exit than hoped for!

Quoting Richard28 (Reply 23): Quoting Planesarecool (Reply 22): In fact most go arounds are caused by pilots trying to slow down for one runway exit, going past it because they are going too fast, and then having to trundle slowly onto the next turning. I very much doubt it. True that airlines try to make a preference for a certain runway exit, but this is so they can save fuel. The extra fuel costs of a go-around far out weigh the cost of leaving the runway at a later exit than hoped for!

I meant that the aircraft on the runway would miss the turning, so the one behind would have to go around. Sorry if i didn't make that clear  

Stephen

I believe that on a BA flight a few years ago, EWR-LHR, B-777, we were approaching LHR from maybe 5000 ft and had to swerve and lap around LHR and approach again, probably due to traffic at LHR or in the airspace.
Those pics are pretty awesome - you could almost see the pax screaming   

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 18): I saw seven go-arounds at MSP between 1500 and 1900 on May 5th. 767, Saab 340, DC9, 717, E145, DC9, and B1900.

MSP is the busiest airport (in aircraft movements) with only two runways that can be used simultaneously.

I've been on three go-arounds. One due to debris on the runway (aircraft in front of us blew a tire on landing); and two due to traffic on the runway although on one of them, an approach into MSP, the reason (given by the captain) was not believed by many on board because we were landing in very strong winds - very bumpy ride down.

However, the best go-around I've witnessed was back in the '90s in SAN. A DL 1011 was departing Runway 27 and for some reason aborted its take-off run. There was a US Air 757 on final that performed the go-around. I worked in one of the office high-rises in downtown at the time and was watching the 1011 depart (I watched it every morning at the same time as it used up most of the runway for take-off). Wasn't even aware of the 757 until I heard the distinctive low-pitched whine of its engines spooling up.

By the way, the pics are incredible! Fantastic job - I would have probably been fixated on the scene rather than having the sense to snap some pics.

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 18): I saw seven go-arounds at MSP between 1500 and 1900 on May 5th. 767, Saab 340, DC9, 717, E145, DC9, and B1900.

Quoting N867BX (Reply 26): MSP is the busiest airport (in aircraft movements) with only two runways that can be used simultaneously.

Yeah, I see 2 or 3 go arounds every time I'm out spotting at MSP. My dad was coming back from LGW on a DC-10 last summer, and he said they had to go around comming into MSP. A go around on a DC-10 must be sweeeeeeeet!!!


-Jason   

MHodgson:

I used to work for BAA in an office on the Bath Road overlooking LHR (hard to get any work done with all the aircraft movement outside the windows!) and some days there were as many as three GAs. The large jets are particularly memorable - I've seen SQ, Iranian and Pakistani 747s hauling themselves back into the air only seconds from landing.

My last GA was an SQ 772 coming into HKG. Uneventful really; we were still a long way from the runway and the pilot told us it was because we were "too far off the centre-line".

Cheers
Al.

Hi Guys,

I have currently seen only 2 go arounds @ STN to date.

The first was a KLM UK F100, due to an aircraft on the runway failing to rotate before the landing aircraft could safely land.

The second one was much more interesting. The Red Arrows were staying at STN a few years back for a couple of days for an airshow (I can't remember which one). When they first approached STN, they did various aerobatic maneuvers at low altitude down the runway centreline, and then breaking to return to land in groups of three. However, during their display they had been trailing their smoke, and caused a large cloud around the airport. ATC was not impressed, and rest-assured the Red Arrows knew about their anger. A Ryanair 737 had to go around as the smoke had not cleared in time.

I'm enjoying hearing peoples G/A stories, keep 'em comin'!

Cheers,
Ian.

I was in a go around back in 1994 on a UA 757. The flight was LAX-GUA-SJO and we has to stop over in MEX for a technical stopover. There was a huge storm in MEX. Once our airplane was about to land in MEX ,there was a blackout. I remeber hearing the full power being turned on. We were still in the air for another 15 minutes and then landed safely in MEX. Many people wanted to leave the airplane because they were freaked out!

Hello!

Lazyshaun, Thanks, was u at mrtyle avenue then???? U get any photo's? Or was u actually on the plane? First of all it sounded like you was on the plane, then it sounded as you were watching the plane   LOL

The photo has been sent off to someone to see if they can get it to look like an A.net pic, and I also sent another pic of a 747 though 

I will tell u how it get's on !    

Thanks for all your replies!Meanwhile, keep sharing ur go-arounds 

Cya

Jimmi

Hi, I was on an A332 into LAX last year and we did a go-around. Captain said, if I remember correctly, that it was to do with wind. It took 25 minutes to actually go all over LA and line up again. It was a cool feeling when the engines were set back to TOGA power just above the runway and to climb sharply again.

Excellent pics btw!

A 744 went-around over Hatton Cross at about 2100 last night (SAT) at LHR. Didn't get airline as was quite dark and I was driving. Any more info?

VirginFSM

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A few weeks back (March 30th) I was dropping my mother/sister off at SFO for their flight to Turkey so I decided to head to "the park." Just as I arrived I saw the usual NW 330 flt. from NRT. Over the numbers he had to be @ 1,000 ASL. Whet around loud as a devil and came back to make a perfect landing.

Today I was down at SFO and caught the out going NW 330 flt. to NRT and for some odd reason it took off and made a crazy climb to 1500-2000ft. and then leveled off with the gear still down. After a few moments it made this sharp turn back to the airport but never landed...

Thanks,

Matt

I'd at least try and get the first one into the database, that is a brilliant photograph. I've got it on my desktop now. Well done   

G

Hi

ohthedrama, Copyright  LOL, Though I don't mind u using it as a desktop background  

I like it when people like my photo's  LOL

Thanks Guy's

Jimmi

back in 1992 or so i was returning from CDG to LHR on a BA767.As per usual videoing approach and landing. Had a go around. Nothing said from Flight deck until we had arrived at the gateon the second landing! then we were told it was because a food trolley wasnt stowed correctly. There were a few nervous pax on that, me im loving it, but the crew could have told us sooner and put everyone at their ease
Vidoes good as well, And NO we didnt fall out of the sky

thanks, jimmi.
i might go to myrtil ave today, and i'll tell you of any go-arounds or interesting sightings.   

we had one of those at CVG yesterday.as i was leaving the ramp,a DL 764 was on short final when the pilot realised he was too close a a comair that was landing in front of him.i was so busy watching that i almost wrecked the truck i was driving  .

Quoting KL911 (Reply 9): Why edit? Then it's not a real photo anymore. I hope edited photo's never will be allowed, it's not the 'real' thing...

all DSLR photos need edited, all photos on this database have been edited all photos in the future will be edited, even resizeing is editing, some need more than others. now a days physically taking the photo is only part of the work, the other 50%/60% is post processing - editing

sorry to shatter your dreams but all of our photos on the database dont pop out of the camera like that

Quoting Jc2354 (Reply 21): Are these posted on the internet?

no..not yet, i'm looking for a cheap internet provider with decent bandwidth so I can post lots of videos...have some REALLY good 744's and 777'2 taking off from runway 1-R at SFO.....

Quoting UA777222 (Reply 35): Today I was down at SFO and caught the out going NW 330 flt. to NRT and for some odd reason it took off and made a crazy climb to 1500-2000ft. and then leveled off with the gear still down. After a few moments it made this sharp turn back to the airport but never landed...

it seems SFO has it shares of go arounds..its simply amazing the amount I've seen at SFO.....never seen that much at ORD...but I'll be looking for go arounds at LHR during the summer!

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 42): i'm looking for a cheap internet provider with decent bandwidth so I can post lots of videos...have some REALLY good 744's and 777'2 taking off from runway 1-R at SFO

How about free? Contact me thru my profile with how big the files are.


As for my go around story, it was back in May of '84 and we actually touched the ground at ATL, then the engines spooled up and back in the air we went. We were in an EA L1011, and no reason was given for the go around.

Jimmi - that first pictrue is wicked, mate.

I have only experienced one Go around. It was approaching LGW on a US A330. Real nasty weather, didn't see the ground till we were almost on top of the runway and suddenly full power was applied and I was pushed back in my seat. You could see the sheep in the fields at the end of the runway running from the noise. It took 20 minutes to get back on the ground and the captain came on and explained that it was due to the aircraft in front of us experiencing a bird strike on landing and having to remain on the runway till it was checked out.

What a ride!

Jimmi, just to tell you,
you have exceeded your bandwidth and I can not see the photos.

Tom.

For more go round recollections:
RE: What's It Like To Be On A Go-around? (by Fbgdavidson Apr 11 2005 in Civil Aviation)

Here's mine C&P'd from that thread

'I've had at least one in memory which was a BA 747 landing at LHR coming back from JFK. Just on final approach on 27R I saw the car parks get closer and then engines spooled up and heard the nosewheel retracting. Some passengers behind thought it apt to scream during the procedure...The crew were too busy to tell us what was going on and didn't come over on the PA system until we were on approach for second attempt.

I once went to LHR to pick my parents up about 5yrs ago and as I saw Concorde coming in on 9L it went for go round, that was pretty amazing to see and hear'

I was controlling Heathrow Tower on VATSIM yesterday and winds were 290@11 Gusting 29 so it could have easily been to do with winds

Wow!!! Concorde on a GA!!! Lucky you!!

Go-arounds don't happen all that often in Australia (I've never seen one & I spend a lot of time paying attention!!), but I've heard a couple of stories...

--> A pilot friend, captaining a Dash 8 into Sydney, was forced into a GA by an aircraft crossing the runway without clearance...

--> An aircraft on long-finals for an approach into one capital city or another down here was asked to go-around to allow the aircraft to make a priority landing for a fuel emergency...

--> Same pilot friend, Dash 8s again, on a couple of occassions has simply had a 'feeling' that something wasn't quite right, went around each time, sorted it out and went back in (avoided flying blind into low-level windshear on one flight)... Nothing more than just a gut-feeling!!!!

And then all the usuals - wind, preceding aircraft not clear of runway, etc.

Cheers!!!!

Hi Jimmi etc,

Regarding go-arounds at LHR, they are about three per day now, I saw a bmi 321 going around on 27R not long ago.

The reasons, apparently, are mainly aircraft not vacating in time, insufficient spacing on approach (quite often you hear warnings of late landing clearances on LHR tower frequency) or burst tyres. When I was in the VCR at Heathrow Tower last summer, the departures controller told me when he was on arrivals the previous evening, a BA 319 burst tyres on touch down on 27R which resulted in three successive go-arounds. He was able to transfer all the aircraft behind that onto the 27L ILS and hold the 27L departure traffic until the BA 319 had been moved.

So it can be for a variety of reasons, but LHR, with 2 runways at almost maximum capacity all day, is especially vulnerable to them.

Oliver

What is VATSIM?

Quoting AirbusA346 (Reply 45): Jimmi, just to tell you, you have exceeded your bandwidth and I can not see the photos.

www.imageshack.us is much better than Photobucket for high-traffic hotlinking. No bandwidth restrictions and no registration needed!

Quoting Go3Team (Reply 43): How about free? Contact me thru my profile with how big the files are.

my files around 20-25 megs per take off...rather large..I know, i need to make them smaller..

HI, was at LHR yesterday also. The VS A340-600 went around because of a Netjets Hawker-800XP that landed just before, which was a little slow clearing the runway. We noticed how close the 340 was behind the 125 when it was on approach and so were expecting the go-around!

Quoting Fbgdavidson (Reply 50): www.imageshack.us is much better than Photobucket for high-traffic hotlinking. No bandwidth restrictions and no registration needed!

Thanks for putting my pics there...

Quoting Nucky (Reply 52): HI, was at LHR yesterday also. The VS A340-600 went around because of a Netjets Hawker-800XP that landed just before, which was a little slow clearing the runway. We noticed how close the 340 was behind the 125 when it was on approach and so were expecting the go-around!

Hi, When I saw the A340 right behind, I did think that it was really close, and it was amazing to see it go round, There was a person next to me (I was at the end, White coat) who had a radio, and he suddenly got his camera, he was expecting something, and then it started going up and around...So cool........

Nucky, did u get any photo's? There were alot of people there, but not many taking pics.

Cya

Jimmi