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Username: TheSonntag
Posted 2005-07-12 12:53:21 and read 7110 times.
http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/0,1518,364847,00.html (in German, sorry)
According to Spiegel.de, a Condor pilot maneuvered his B767 airplane with passengers onboard close to another airplane so he could make a photo of that airplane, as the pilot on board of the other airplane was making his last flight. However, he came very close to another airplane, so that the pilot of that airplane had to climb in order to avoid a collision. The Condor pilot has been suspended from work.
I am always very careful when Der Spiegel writes things like that, because Der Spiegel, although being one of the best magazines in the world, sometimes tends to report things in a obscure or exaggerated way. But if this story is true, it is rather alarming.
Michael
Username: Rick767
Posted 2005-07-12 12:58:40 and read 7073 times.
It is true, he got the wrong plane and came close to a Thomas Cook (UK) A330, his intended buddy was actually over 100nm ahead I believe.
Both Condor pilots suspended, quite rightly playing games like that. 
More info here: http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...34a987baeb39794405&threadid=181023
Username: Backfire
Posted 2005-07-12 13:26:56 and read 6987 times.
It's been on PPRuNe for at least a week, surprised no-one picked up on it earlier.
Username: Ricci767
Posted 2005-07-12 13:31:54 and read 6967 times.
Your wrong Rick767, according to today's Daily Mail it's a Thomas Cook 757 Airbus! And that the aircraft had to be at least 60 miles apart. 
Username: A340600
Posted 2005-07-12 13:37:11 and read 6954 times.
Quoting Ricci767 (Reply 3):
Your wrong Rick767, according to today's Daily Mail it's a Thomas Cook 757 Airbus! And that the aircraft had to be at least 60 miles apart
Yep, I just read that article, very funny considering the actual picture of the 75 said 'Boeing 757' on it. At least they got the pictures right, amazing!
This is a very stupid thing for a pilot to do. Quite right that he is suspended, how stupid,
Sam
Username: Rick767
Posted 2005-07-12 14:59:29 and read 6802 times.
Quoting Ricci767 (Reply 3):
Your wrong Rick767, according to today's Daily Mail it's a Thomas Cook 757 Airbus!
I stand corrected, if the Daily Mail said so it must be true!
Username: Birdwatching
Posted 2005-07-12 15:24:02 and read 6713 times.
So does he get priority screening? I do hope that we get to see that picture in the database soon!
Now that he's fired, he could make up for the loss through photosale on a.net... NOT!
Username: Mexicana757
Posted 2005-07-12 18:33:06 and read 6465 times.
BBC doesnt say what kind of aircraft they were. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4675413.stm
I guess now that pilot won't be taking anymore pictures from the cockpit for some time.
Username: Oldeuropean
Posted 2005-07-12 20:01:35 and read 6322 times.
I don`t understand, how someone can risk his job and licence with with such a big stupidity. 
Axel
Username: USAir330
Posted 2005-07-12 20:08:02 and read 6298 times.
Hey if he wouldn't have got caught... I'm sure we would all be greatful if he shared the pic on airliners.net.
Username: EZEIZA
Posted 2005-07-12 20:16:57 and read 6276 times.
Reminds me of a few years ago when an AR pilot (possibly AU) went out of the approach line to fly over the River Plate stadium, that at the time was packed since Argentina was playing Colombia for a WC qualifyer. Obviously the pilot was fired. Crazy world ....
Username: Bongo
Posted 2005-07-12 22:30:34 and read 6155 times.
Quoting TheSonntag (Thread starter):
The Condor pilot has been suspended from work.
He MUST be FIRED !
Quoting EZEIZA (Reply 10):
since Argentina was playing Colombia for a WC qualifyer.
The Colombia 5, Argentina 0 game, back in 1.993?
Username: Matt
Posted 2005-07-12 22:45:26 and read 6140 times.
Both planes were bound for Canada on Friday, June 24. I figure the Condor flight (767) was DE 2062 operating FRA-YHZ. As for the Thomas Cook flight (757), it could have been LGW-YYZ, GLA-YYZ or MAN-YYZ (on Fridays).
Username: Birdwatching
Posted 2005-07-12 23:05:28 and read 6072 times.
Matt:
According to Spiegel.de:
The discussed plane was a Condor 767 with 234 pax going from FRA to YHZ, the other one was an English Thomas Cook 757 going from LGW to YYZ. Apparently, the pilot confused that plane for a different one. He thought it was a company plane, but actually it was that Thomas Cook 757 that got surprized by the approaching 767. Let's all blame it on Thomas Cook's paint schemes.
[Edited 2005-07-12 23:06:00]
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Username: RODOL
Posted 2005-07-12 23:28:38 and read 6017 times.
That reminds me of an incident a few years back when a pilot 'buzzed' his house in Congleton, Cheshire in a 757 because it was his wifes' birthday. I'm fairly certain he was fired.
Username: EZEIZA
Posted 2005-07-13 00:36:42 and read 5670 times.
Quoting Bongo (Reply 11):
The Colombia 5, Argentina 0 game, back in 1.993?
Hola Bongo,
In fact, it wasn't during that specific game because I remember the incident being during the day and the game was played at night. I tried to look uo for the correct game but have not had too much luck so far...
saludos
Beto
Username: PADSpot
Posted 2005-07-13 00:52:43 and read 5541 times.
Quoting TheSonntag (Thread starter):
Der Spiegel, although being one of the best magazines in the world, sometimes
Well, that's basically a question of at which side of the fence you are ... but no questions asked: Whenever "normal" media report about aviation topics it quickly becomes adventurous ....
Username: 3201
Posted 2005-07-13 06:40:04 and read 3863 times.
Nowhere near as much fun as this:
http://www.ntsb.gov/O_n_O/docs/AVIATION/4933.PDF
Username: QANTASFOREVER
Posted 2005-07-13 06:44:46 and read 3837 times.
Quoting USAir330 (Reply 9):
Hey if he wouldn't have got caught... I'm sure we would all be greatful if he shared the pic on airliners.net.
Would ATC not have noticed the two aircraft in such close proximity?
Something tells me this guy didn't think it through.
QFF
Username: Goinv
Posted 2005-07-13 08:09:03 and read 3510 times.
There's no radar coverage over the Atlantic. Planes fly with procedural seperation. Something like at least sixty miles apart.
Username: Egmcman
Posted 2005-07-13 09:45:36 and read 3134 times.
Quoting Ricci767 (Reply 3):
Your wrong Rick767, according to today's Daily Mail it's a Thomas Cook 757 Airbus! And that the aircraft had to be at least 60 miles apart.
It said A330 in the article but had a picture of 757 is this the dumbest thing an airline pilot has done other than the intoxicated BA flight crew ?
Username: Jorge1812
Posted 2005-07-13 15:46:53 and read 2279 times.
It happenes in Canada were? YES
There were 2 Condor planes in Canada at the same time? PROBABLY
A Condor pilot had it's last flight not to Germany? NO
If it would be the last flight he surely would have flown to Germany. How to return the plane to Germany without a pilot on duty. Don't think they'll keep an extra pilot in the jumpseat just to fly the plane back.
Georg.
Username: Pelican
Posted 2005-07-13 17:28:09 and read 2193 times.
Quoting Jorge1812 (Reply 22):
A Condor pilot had it's last flight not to Germany? NO
Well, actually it turned out to be the last flight for a Condor pilot 
But I guess the pilot didn' know it would be his last flight.
pelicab
Username: HAWK21M
Posted 2005-07-14 10:15:36 and read 1956 times.
Stupid Decision by the Pilot.His Job at the Time was to Fly the Aircraft.
Next time maybe they can hire a spotter plane for the shoot.
regds
MEL
Username: LGW
Posted 2005-07-14 10:36:02 and read 1943 times.
Hi all,
Maybe if all the tour operators left each carrier in each contry to keep their identity, e.g Condor, as opposed to Thomas Cook, Hapag Lloyd and Britannia as opposed to TUI this would not have happened as he wouldnt have got confused!! 
Cheers
Ben Pritchard
Username: Jorge1812
Posted 2005-07-14 22:55:25 and read 1698 times.
Quoting Pelican (Reply 23):
Well, actually it turned out to be the last flight for a Condor pilot {Wink} But I guess the pilot didn' know it would be his last flight.
Good one Pelican!!!
Georg.
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