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Topic: Any Pics Of The Hp A230 Painted In Us Livery?
Username: Etops1
Posted 2005-12-17 17:51:45 and read 6637 times.

hey guys . anyone hace pics of the hp a320 painted in the new usairways livery? i heard it overnighted in bos last night.

Topic: RE: Any Pics Of The Hp A230 Painted In Us Livery?
Username: RIOJANEIRO
Posted 2005-12-17 23:01:27 and read 6542 times.

Yes... I just saw in on the High-A concourse headed for ONT in PHX at about 1:30pm local time.
I thought it was at the wrong gate.... but then oops.. I remembered... it's N679AW, btw...

Topic: RE: Any Pics Of The Hp A230 Painted In Us Livery?
Username: Etops1
Posted 2005-12-17 23:04:42 and read 6532 times.

i want to see a pic.

Topic: RE: Any Pics Of The Hp A230 Painted In Us Livery?
Username: Boeing744
Posted 2005-12-17 23:05:44 and read 6529 times.

You may want to edit your Subject... You said A230.

Topic: RE: Any Pics Of The Hp A230 Painted In Us Livery?
Username: Etops1
Posted 2005-12-17 23:08:16 and read 6523 times.

oh man sorry. how do i do that .

Topic: RE: Any Pics Of The Hp A230 Painted In Us Livery?
Username: Cactus739
Posted 2005-12-18 01:38:43 and read 6418 times.

It should look pretty much just like this...different reg # and different engines....


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Topic: RE: Any Pics Of The Hp A230 Painted In Us Livery?
Username: Etops1
Posted 2005-12-18 01:55:00 and read 6384 times.

i know that . but i just want to see it.

Topic: RE: Any Pics Of The Hp A230 Painted In Us Livery?
Username: Jmc1975
Posted 2005-12-18 01:55:29 and read 6383 times.

On N679AW, there is a sign immediately to the right of the L1 dor that says "This Aircraft is Operated By America West Airlines, Inc.".

Topic: RE: Any Pics Of The Hp A230 Painted In Us Livery?
Username: Cactus739
Posted 2005-12-18 02:02:30 and read 6372 times.

Quoting Jmc1975 (Reply 7):
On N679AW, there is a sign immediately to the right of the L1 dor that says "This Aircraft is Operated By America West Airlines, Inc.".

That sticker/sign is on every America West aircraft.... even in old scheme.

Topic: RE: Any Pics Of The Hp A230 Painted In Us Livery?
Username: Jmc1975
Posted 2005-12-18 05:47:42 and read 6256 times.

Quoting Cactus739 (Reply 8):
That sticker/sign is on every America West aircraft.... even in old scheme.

It's not the same one you're thinking of. The one with the old HP scheme contains the heritage logo. This is a plain sign, the first of which shows up on ship 679.

Topic: RE: Any Pics Of The Hp A230 Painted In Us Livery?
Username: HPLASOps
Posted 2005-12-18 06:01:57 and read 6235 times.

I don't know how many US 757s are painted in the new livery yet but one of them is currently in LAS at gate A8 - I believe it's heading to PHL. I can't read the tail number from the camera we have but it sure does look beautiful

Topic: RE: Any Pics Of The Hp A230 Painted In Us Livery?
Username: DLKAPA
Posted 2005-12-18 06:10:39 and read 6220 times.

I personally can't wait for it on the A330. That'll be one sick looking bird.

Topic: RE: Any Pics Of The Hp A230 Painted In Us Livery?
Username: Boeing744
Posted 2005-12-18 06:47:48 and read 6183 times.

Quoting Etops1 (Reply 4):
oh man sorry. how do i do that .

No problem. You can only edit posts for half an hour afterwards, but for future reference, at the bottom left corner of your post, there is a button that says "Edit Post".

Topic: RE: Any Pics Of The Hp A230 Painted In Us Livery?
Username: AirCop
Posted 2005-12-18 15:50:00 and read 6061 times.

Ship #679 is brand new, just delivered on the 15th of December, that is why the sticker aircraft operated by America West, similar to the AA aircraft that had TWA LLC stickers by the front door.

Topic: RE: Any Pics Of The Hp A230 Painted In Us Livery?
Username: DLCnxgptjax
Posted 2005-12-18 20:08:05 and read 5928 times.

Quote:
I don't know how many US 757s are painted in the new livery yet but one of them is currently in LAS at gate A8 - I believe it's heading to PHL.

If I'm not mistaken, there is only one US 757 in the new colors which just entered service like a week ago.

Topic: RE: Any Pics Of The Hp A230 Painted In Us Livery?
Username: LGA777
Posted 2005-12-18 20:25:31 and read 5891 times.

DLCnxgptjax is correct, N626AU is the only US 757 in the new colors, however N605AU should be on line Dec 22nd currently being painted in ARA.


LGA777

Topic: RE: Any Pics Of The Hp A230 Painted In Us Livery?
Username: Cactus739
Posted 2005-12-18 20:45:09 and read 5855 times.

Quoting Jmc1975 (Reply 9):
It's not the same one you're thinking of. The one with the old HP scheme contains the heritage logo. This is a plain sign, the first of which shows up on ship 679.

Gotcha. So no cute logos, just "operated by America West Airlines"?

Topic: RE: Any Pics Of The Hp A230 Painted In Us Livery?
Username: HPLASOps
Posted 2005-12-18 21:54:33 and read 5800 times.

Quoting DLCnxgptjax (Reply 14):
If I'm not mistaken, there is only one US 757 in the new colors which just entered service like a week ago.

I do feel fortuante that it came to LAS so quickly then!

Topic: RE: Any Pics Of The Hp A230 Painted In Us Livery?
Username: Jmc1975
Posted 2005-12-18 23:01:30 and read 5737 times.

Quoting Cactus739 (Reply 16):
Gotcha. So no cute logos, just "operated by America West Airlines"?

Nothing cute about it.  Smile However, the standardized heritage logo is near the L1 door as it is (in the photo) on N109UW. The plain black-on-white "This Aircraft is Operated By America West Airlines, Inc." signage is located about 3 feet below it.

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Topic: RE: Any Pics Of The Hp A230 Painted In Us Livery?
Username: Jetmatt777
Posted 2005-12-19 00:11:43 and read 5676 times.

Will they paint any US or USExpress planes in OKC?

Cheers
~Matt wave 

Topic: RE: Any Pics Of The Hp A230 Painted In Us Livery?
Username: HPLASOps
Posted 2005-12-19 02:59:33 and read 5597 times.

Quoting Jmc1975 (Reply 18):
However, the standardized heritage logo is near the L1 door as it is (in the photo) on N109UW

By the way, the rampers have already started referring to the Heritage Logo as the "Circle of Death" since all those logos dissapeared after US acquired them. I like that nickname - very fitting.

Topic: RE: Any Pics Of The Hp A230 Painted In Us Livery?
Username: HPLASOps
Posted 2005-12-19 07:25:25 and read 5489 times.

Everyone, I just got pics of the new A320 in my email box, I will post them tonight after it slows down a bit.

HPLASOps

Topic: RE: Any Pics Of The Hp A230 Painted In Us Livery?
Username: HPLASOps
Posted 2005-12-19 09:52:11 and read 5426 times.

I have some pics that a coworker took of the new A320 and gave permission to me to post them on the website. They are very amatuerish in nature (standard camera with no special lenses or training/experience in photograph to enhance image, etc.). I'm not a registered photographer and I really don't take pictures of planes very often, but I would like to post those pictures on here. How do I go about doing it? This website seems to be very protective of the way pictures are handled around here (and I don't necessarily think that's a bad idea either).

[Edited 2005-12-19 09:53:32]

Topic: RE: Any Pics Of The Hp A230 Painted In Us Livery?
Username: FCYTravis
Posted 2005-12-19 09:53:49 and read 5421 times.

Found linked on USAviation.com:

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/N679AW2.jpg
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/rejections/big/20051219_N679AW3.jpg

I like how the second, perfectly informative, photograph was tossed in A.net's rejections bin...  sarcastic 

Note the Heritage logo and the small-type "This aircraft operated by America West Airlines, Inc." in the lower right hand corner of the 1L entryway. Right where it would be for, say, an Express-operated aircraft, or the idiosyncratic "MidAtlantic Airways operated by US Airways" labeling.

Topic: RE: Any Pics Of The Hp A230 Painted In Us Livery?
Username: Kiwiandrew
Posted 2005-12-19 10:00:59 and read 5412 times.

Quoting FCYTravis (Reply 23):
Found linked on USAviation.com:

interesting that it has the Star Alliance logo - I thought that until the two operating certificates are merged that the US flights operated by America West are not actually Star Alliance flights - or have I got that completely wrong ?

Topic: RE: Any Pics Of The Hp A230 Painted In Us Livery?
Username: FCYTravis
Posted 2005-12-19 10:20:38 and read 5394 times.

Nobody seems to quite know what's up with that :p

The Star Alliance logo is painted on because, well, US Airways is part of the Star Alliance, so... they don't want to throw anyone off.

But it's really a mystery as to when HP-operated flights will be able to credit as Star Alliance. US has set a date of Jan. 4 for when the America West brand will go away... so maybe then? Or maybe it'll happen in February, when the frequent-flyer programs of the two carriers are merged? Or maybe it won't happen until the certificate merger, as you surmised.

So the answer is... anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

Topic: RE: Any Pics Of The Hp A230 Painted In Us Livery?
Username: HPLASOps
Posted 2005-12-19 18:51:36 and read 5272 times.

It's gonna take at least two more years before all the aircraft are painted in the new livery, and it sounds like the US aircraft are getting painted first. I have not heard a specific date on when the two flight certificates will be combined - I don't even know what the standard length of a certificate is and if all airlines stay on the same timeline, etc. I don't see the HP brand completely dying till at least mid 07 though.

Topic: RE: Any Pics Of The Hp A230 Painted In Us Livery?
Username: KaiGywer
Posted 2005-12-19 19:00:43 and read 5256 times.

Quoting HPLASOps (Reply 26):
sounds like the US aircraft are getting painted first

Might be true. It just sounds strange, that considering they are keeping the US name, you would think they would want to get rid of the "wrong" name livery first.

Topic: RE: Any Pics Of The Hp A230 Painted In Us Livery?
Username: HPLASOps
Posted 2005-12-19 19:18:08 and read 5230 times.

Quoting KaiGywer (Reply 27):
It just sounds strange, that considering they are keeping the US name, you would think they would want to get rid of the "wrong" name livery first.

Actually, that's precisely why they are painting the US first. We chose US over HP because US had more nationwide brand recognition. Therefore, we decided it would be better to paint the US aircraft first, keep all US passengers flying on US aircraft with new colors, and then bring the HP pax over to the idea of flying US. Much better that way. Plus, the reason why they chose a white top for the new US livery is for the AZ and NV deserts. White reflects heat better in the summer time, meaning less fuel is used on the APUs to keep the aircrafts cool while parked at the gate. Getting those painted first was also a priority, and the already white topped HP aircraft can wait.

Topic: RE: Any Pics Of The Hp A230 Painted In Us Livery?
Username: Flyboyaz
Posted 2005-12-20 00:55:44 and read 5113 times.

The frequent flyer programs are being merged in March, that's when all Star members can get miles on HP operated flights. Yes the brand of America West will start disappearing (fairly rapidly from what I understand) starting Jan.4.

HP planes are scheduled to be painted in new colours next year...I understood they would be painted first since they have HP colours and signage.

Topic: RE: Any Pics Of The Hp A230 Painted In Us Livery?
Username: D L X
Posted 2005-12-20 01:07:48 and read 5096 times.

Quoting HPLASOps (Reply 28):
they are painting the US first



Quoting Flyboyaz (Reply 29):
HP planes are scheduled to be painted in new colours next year...I understood they would be painted first since they have HP colours and signage.

Hmm... so, which one is it? HP first or US first, or both concurrently?

Topic: RE: Any Pics Of The Hp A230 Painted In Us Livery?
Username: FCYTravis
Posted 2005-12-20 04:10:37 and read 5033 times.

HP first.

They want to kill the HP brand (RIP) and the dark blue US planes aren't going to be coming west in any quantity until the certificates and contracts are merged (2007?) so the heat issue isn't that big of a deal.

Topic: RE: Any Pics Of The Hp A230 Painted In Us Livery?
Username: A330323X
Posted 2005-12-20 04:19:31 and read 5022 times.

Quoting D L X (Reply 30):
Hmm... so, which one is it? HP first or US first, or both concurrently?

Both at the same time, with the HP aircraft being done at a quicker pace. They want all the HP colors gone by the end of 2006. They're aiming for the end of 2007 for the US planes to be all repainted. (Most HP airport signage is being changed over on January 4.)

Quoting KaiGywer (Reply 27):
It just sounds strange, that considering they are keeping the US name, you would think they would want to get rid of the "wrong" name livery first.

That's correct, and what will be happening.

Quoting HPLASOps (Reply 28):
Therefore, we decided it would be better to paint the US aircraft first, keep all US passengers flying on US aircraft with new colors, and then bring the HP pax over to the idea of flying US. Much better that way.

That's just totally wrong.

Topic: RE: Any Pics Of The Hp A230 Painted In Us Livery?
Username: TropicBird
Posted 2005-12-20 04:49:05 and read 5000 times.

A/c 679 the recently delivered AWA A320 with the new US Airways paint job was scheduled to overnight in OAK tonight....

Topic: RE: Any Pics Of The Hp A230 Painted In Us Livery?
Username: PurdueAv2003
Posted 2005-12-20 05:11:12 and read 4965 times.

The only reason some of the 767's and 757's are getting painted first is because they NEED the paint more.


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Topic: RE: Any Pics Of The Hp A230 Painted In Us Livery?
Username: KaiGywer
Posted 2005-12-20 16:07:44 and read 4873 times.

Quoting PurdueAv2003 (Reply 34):
The only reason some of the 767's and 757's are getting painted first is because they NEED the paint more.

That sounds reasonable. Any plane that NEEDS a paint job, will get the new scheme, regardless of what it looked like before. I was thinking more along the lines of repainting just for the brand name.

Topic: RE: Any Pics Of The Hp A230 Painted In Us Livery?
Username: COERJ145
Posted 2005-12-20 23:27:28 and read 4792 times.

Anyone know if they will continue to upgrade the interior of the Airbus aircraft with the leather econ. seats? I know HP had some before the merger.

Topic: RE: Any Pics Of The Hp A230 Painted In Us Livery?
Username: Ca2ohHP
Posted 2005-12-20 23:54:57 and read 4767 times.

Quoting COERJ145 (Reply 36):
Anyone know if they will continue to upgrade the interior of the Airbus aircraft with the leather econ. seats? I know HP had some before the merger.

Yes, aircraft N675AW thru N679AW, there is an upgraded (and much more comfortable) interior. The question was raised if we will see an upgrade on the rest of the existing fleet in one of our news letters, and nothing has been planned to upgrade any other interiors. So for now, whatever comes out of the factory is all you'll see.


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