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Topic: America West/US Airways Changeover: Did It Happen?
Username: SHUPirate1
Posted 2006-01-04 15:46:53 and read 4881 times.

I haven't heard any notice of it at either http://www.americawest.com or http://usairways.com ...

Topic: RE: America West/US Airways Changeover: Did It Happen?
Username: D L X
Posted 2006-01-04 17:02:54 and read 4832 times.

I'm not sure, but it looks like you can buy tickets on America West on US's website now.

Also, LCC stock is going through the roof today! Too bad I sold it all yesterday.  Sad

Topic: RE: America West/US Airways Changeover: Did It Happen?
Username: Laxtwin
Posted 2006-01-04 17:08:59 and read 4812 times.

This was in the Phoenix paper today:

http://www.azcentral.com/business/articles/0104usairways.html

Topic: RE: America West/US Airways Changeover: Did It Happen?
Username: Tango-Bravo
Posted 2006-01-04 17:40:52 and read 4760 times.

Quoting SHUPirate1 (Thread starter):
America West/US Airways Changeover: Did It Happen?

Based on what I observed five days ago... From outward appearances at PHX, yes and no. The signage inside T-4 , over which HP/US has control is predominantly "US Airways." Interestingly, when I paid a necessary visit to the baggage services counter to pick up a piece of delayed checked luggage I noticed that, of the 4 staff working behind the counter, 2 were wearing pre-merger US Airways uniforms, badges and name tags while 2 were wearing pre-merger America West representations of same; a fifth person, obviously a suprvisor, also appeared in America West attire. The baggage tag and matching claim check number of the luggage I picked up was HPxxxxxx (routed MSP-PHX) And both HP and US flight numbers remain in use on the various monitors as well as in Sabre schedule/availabilty displays.

Topic: RE: America West/US Airways Changeover: Did It Happen?
Username: Uswyjer
Posted 2006-01-04 17:58:06 and read 4719 times.

I talked a US pilot while boarding a flight back in October, after the Jan changeover date was announced, he said that even with the date set, it would take a long time for the changeover to be complete, especially in regards to signage/uniforms/etc... trying to do everything methodically but efficiently. I remember him saying internal things would be quicker, matter of aligning computer systems and such.

Topic: RE: America West/US Airways Changeover: Did It Happen?
Username: SHUPirate1
Posted 2006-01-04 18:12:03 and read 4677 times.

Quoting Tango-Bravo (Reply 3):
Based on what I observed five days ago

All rumors were that the changeover was to happen today, which was why I asked the question.

Topic: RE: America West/US Airways Changeover: Did It Happen?
Username: HPRamper
Posted 2006-01-04 18:18:38 and read 4665 times.

I'm not sure what the "changeover" was supposed to be, specifically. It's just a word.

I do know the US Airways credit card was released to the public today.

Uniforms will be some of the last things to change.

Topic: RE: America West/US Airways Changeover: Did It Happen?
Username: N766UA
Posted 2006-01-04 18:41:26 and read 4611 times.

Here at CLE they changed gates a few weeks ago. They also changed their contract so that the guys who do US's below-wing now do HP as well. Oh yeah and they merged their ticket counters.

Topic: RE: America West/US Airways Changeover: Did It Happen?
Username: KYAir
Posted 2006-01-04 18:58:34 and read 4581 times.

Quoting SHUPirate1 (Reply 5):
All rumors were that the changeover was to happen today, which was why I asked the question.

SHUPirate1 is asking about the recently discussed Jan 4 "disappearance" of the America West brand. Here's a quote from the recent thread:

"Marketing-wise, the America West brand disappears into history on Jan. 4. That's when all flights will be sold and marketed as US Airways, with America West flights being exclusively code-share service. In-flight announcements, gate signs, etc. will be switched to US Airways on that date." Quote taken from US Airways News/Rumors? (by MD90fan Dec 27 2005 in Civil Aviation)

So, did what's mentioned in the above quote happen or not? Anyone know?

[Edited 2006-01-04 19:02:04]

[Edited 2006-01-04 19:02:45]

Topic: RE: America West/US Airways Changeover: Did It Happen?
Username: AirScoot
Posted 2006-01-04 19:13:12 and read 4546 times.

The exclusive codeshare flights have not cut over as of yet. All flights are still being marketed under the old HP designator.

The idea behind this to my understanding was that they HP flights would disappear and be sold either as US or US* flights - much as the AA/TW cutover happened.

Topic: RE: America West/US Airways Changeover: Did It Happen?
Username: Apodino
Posted 2006-01-04 19:16:33 and read 4534 times.

Hopefully the merged airline will still use the CACTUS callsign.

Topic: RE: America West/US Airways Changeover: Did It Happen?
Username: Gigneil
Posted 2006-01-04 19:41:06 and read 4498 times.

Well, here's one way it happened. americawest.com just doesn't work today.

Quoting Apodino (Reply 10):
Hopefully the merged airline will still use the CACTUS callsign.

It won't. No hopefully to it, the new airline will use the US certificate.

N

Topic: RE: America West/US Airways Changeover: Did It Happen?
Username: KELPkid
Posted 2006-01-04 19:45:22 and read 4480 times.

As of Monday (Jan 02), the ticket counter at ELP had it's signage somewhat changed (with a large vinyl banner proclaiming the change), the gate counter (and the CRJ-900 operated by YV) was still 100% HP. The Inflight magazine had the US Airways title on it, however it looked more like the HP inflight mag (all the ads were for places in Phoenix and Vegas). When I got to PHX, most of the gate signage had been changed, but most employees were still wearing HP uniforms. In addition, the gates at the end of B-terminal had all US aircraft (I don't know if this is normal in PHX-usually when I've flown HP, all my flights have been in the A terminals). When I arrived at PDX, the gate signeage at gate D4 was still HP, as it was at D3 as well (I had no idea that HP had taken over gate D4! All ops used to be out of D3 only). The PHX-PDX flight was on HP metal, which had the 4-logo merger logo sticker applied, and at the jet's entry way, there was a sign that said "This flight operated by America West Airlines."

Oh, and the baggage claim carousel monitor at PDX (the one which tells you which carousel to expect your luggage on) still had the HP logo for the flight on it   

Also in PHX, the electronic flight number board had both the HP flight number, and the US codeshare flight number.

[Edited 2006-01-04 19:47:50]

Topic: RE: America West/US Airways Changeover: Did It Happen?
Username: Av8rPHX
Posted 2006-01-04 20:56:23 and read 4376 times.

In addition, the gates at the end of B-terminal had all US aircraft (I don't know if this is normal in PHX-usually when I've flown HP, all my flights have been in the A terminals).

US has been using B11-B14 for a few months now in PHX.

Topic: RE: America West/US Airways Changeover: Did It Happen?
Username: AirScoot
Posted 2006-01-04 21:18:08 and read 4338 times.

Quoting Gigneil (Reply 11):
Well, here's one way it happened. americawest.com just doesn't work today

I just checked it.. it's still giving the same splash screen as it did before.. and if you click the americawest.com site, it goes to the old HP website.. so it hasn't changed yet.

Topic: RE: America West/US Airways Changeover: Did It Happen?
Username: MaverickM11
Posted 2006-01-04 21:30:09 and read 4296 times.

When will all schedules reported to the GDSs switch from US and HP IATA codes to exclusively US?

Topic: RE: America West/US Airways Changeover: Did It Happen?
Username: G4resagent
Posted 2006-01-04 21:33:11 and read 4290 times.

In RNO for months, there is a sign that says that Reno/Tahoe airport welcomes US Airways but no signage has been changed (as of December 28th).

Topic: RE: America West/US Airways Changeover: Did It Happen?
Username: Gigneil
Posted 2006-01-04 22:24:06 and read 4211 times.

Quoting AirScoot (Reply 14):
I just checked it.. it's still giving the same splash screen as it did before.. and if you click the americawest.com site, it goes to the old HP website.. so it hasn't changed yet.

It continues to be completely down for me. Not working at all.

I was joking about that being part of the change, I was just being a smartass about their it capabilities.

N

Topic: RE: America West/US Airways Changeover: Did It Happen?
Username: HR001
Posted 2006-01-04 22:27:57 and read 4197 times.

More on the topic
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060104/ap_on_bi_ge/us_airways

Topic: RE: America West/US Airways Changeover: Did It Happen?
Username: HPRamper
Posted 2006-01-05 00:06:19 and read 4083 times.

Quoting KELPkid (Reply 12):
When I arrived at PDX, the gate signeage at gate D4 was still HP, as it was at D3 as well (I had no idea that HP had taken over gate D4! All ops used to be out of D3 only).

We only use D-4 for our Mesa flights currently. In a few days we will probably not even be using that as we lose our last CRJ to some Eastern route. But we have been using D-4 (as well as C-20/22 in RON capacity, including offloading) for as long as I've been there.

The signage won't be changing in the next couple months at D-3....basically because in March we are moving all the way down to C-17 at the end of that concourse. Big change for us, but all for the better as we will now have two gates NEXT to each other - which we haven't had the luxury of - that even share a podium, our ops/break area will be much bigger, and very importantly to us rampers, we can use the restroom without having to go upstairs into the terminal!

At that time, our signs will change. I'm not sure if we are only getting C-17 or if we are getting another gate in addition to that. I'm also not sure who will be then using D-3, I heard Continental will be using the gate but not necessarily the office space underneath. They'll be wanting to consolidate their gates after they start the big DL/HA contract.

Topic: RE: America West/US Airways Changeover: Did It Happen?
Username: KELPkid
Posted 2006-01-05 00:20:18 and read 4058 times.

Quoting HPRamper (Reply 19):
We only use D-4 for our Mesa flights currently. In a few days we will probably not even be using that as we lose our last CRJ to some Eastern route. But we have been using D-4 (as well as C-20/22 in RON capacity, including offloading) for as long as I've been there.

You handled HP 790 there on Jan 2nd, which was a mainline A320-100
 Wink

I was suprised, too, as we taxied from runway 28R to see a 733 still sitting at D3. I thought they'd "borrow" the Delta gate next door (that I have yet to ever see a plane at, by the way!)  Smile

Topic: RE: America West/US Airways Changeover: Did It Happen?
Username: AmericanAirFan
Posted 2006-01-05 00:25:06 and read 4045 times.

Quoting HPRamper (Reply 6):
I do know the US Airways credit card was released to the public today.

My grandma has this kind of card and uses it for American Airlines to spend her flight miles on my visit to California. So now that HP is with US does this mean she could now use her flight miles on HP?

Topic: RE: America West/US Airways Changeover: Did It Happen?
Username: HPRamper
Posted 2006-01-05 02:58:01 and read 3924 times.

Quoting KELPkid (Reply 20):
You handled HP 790 there on Jan 2nd, which was a mainline A320-100

I was suprised, too, as we taxied from runway 28R to see a 733 still sitting at D3. I thought they'd "borrow" the Delta gate next door (that I have yet to ever see a plane at, by the way!)

I heard a funny story about that one. The 733 was a delayed departure, because so many of our tugs were out of service our whole operation was slowed down. Too many morons on our night shift misusing them and draining the batteries. So, the D-4 thing for a mainline was quite unusual. It HAS happened in the past. Thank goodness, soon we will not have to deal with the traffic hassle between the concourses. Southwest can have it all, I know they just LOVE being stuck behind those slow-going NW planes  Smile

We never use the Delta gate. And yes, they do use it, they RON a plane there and also a number of turns during the day. If we need an extra we generally borrow the Continental gate next to us, we have a very good relationship with the CO station and often use each others' equipment - belt loaders, airstart, etc. They also turn a plane at our gate every night between our flights.

Topic: RE: America West/US Airways Changeover: Did It Happen?
Username: RIOJANEIRO
Posted 2006-01-05 03:32:55 and read 3883 times.

From the inflight side of things :
Effective today (January 4th), all inflight announcements have been changed and are now strictly using US Airways. No more FlightFund, America West Magazine or AWA.

In addition our movies/trivia/after takeoff video annoucement (which is a new thing for AWA, btw) have all changed and now reflect the new US Airways. There are no references whatsoever of HP in any of these.

The only remaining video needing to be changed is the safety demo, which was pushed back indefinitely, but should be changed quickly as well. It was supposed to change over today, but inflight told us the video wasn't going to be ready for today.

Magazines, cups, napkins, safety cards (except for A320's... a small printing glitch must keep the old AWA ones in for a very short time due to FAR's), promotional seat pocket ads, have all been changed already.

I guess the only 'awa' stuff left is our teal stripes on the uniforms and our aircraft liveries! Oh, yeah our beverage carts still say 'america west' for the meantime, as well.

It's definitely been a little creepy to see 'US Airways' plastered all over our inflight entertainment, but I suppose we'll all get used to it.

Topic: RE: America West/US Airways Changeover: Did It Happen?
Username: Zone1
Posted 2006-01-05 03:43:28 and read 3854 times.

I was in CLT yesterday, and I would say 30% of the RJs were in the new livery. Most of them had HP registrations. I'm pretty surprised at how fast they are painting these things.

Topic: RE: America West/US Airways Changeover: Did It Happen?
Username: JoFMO
Posted 2006-01-05 03:56:19 and read 3839 times.

When will HP flights be uploaded to the star alliance timetable?

Will I have to wait till all flights are operated under the US signature? And if so how long will it need?

Topic: RE: America West/US Airways Changeover: Did It Happen?
Username: Bridogger6
Posted 2006-01-05 05:50:11 and read 3746 times.

I was working a flight to SJC about two days ago, it was on our brand new deliver N680AW painted but painted in the new US Airways livery. Instead of the sticker on the side of the door, the heritage logo is actually painted on by the door and there is less noticeable sticker saying "Operated by America West Airlines."

Anyway that flight got delayed by about TWO hours because of a little mixup with the seat back safety cards. The first flight attendant noticed that the safety cards, although on the front proclaiming to be for the A320 had two pictures of the exits which displayed only one mid cabin door on each side, like the A319. Sooo... we had to bring in some of our old A320 cards, but then there was a question of whether those cards could still be legally used for the new aircraft. I didn't realize it, but I guess the certifying of safety cards for each specific aircraft is a pretty big deal (so think twice before you steal one!). Anyway, the captain of that flight was on the phone with the chief pilot for HP and finally a decision was reached but the delay still ended up being almost two hours.

Topic: RE: America West/US Airways Changeover: Did It Happen?
Username: SonOfACaptain
Posted 2006-01-05 06:52:17 and read 3689 times.

Quoting Zone1 (Reply 24):
and I would say 30% of the RJs were in the new livery. Most of them had HP registrations.

Say what? The only CRJ's in the new color's are Air Wisconsin planes, and the only HP CRJ's in CLT are CR9's operating for US in HP colors.

-SOAC

Topic: RE: America West/US Airways Changeover: Did It Happen?
Username: SHUPirate1
Posted 2006-01-05 07:11:36 and read 3667 times.

Quoting SonOfACaptain (Reply 27):
Say what? The only CRJ's in the new color's are Air Wisconsin planes, and the only HP CRJ's in CLT are CR9's operating for US in HP colors.

Those HP CR9's are operating for HP in HP colors, actually.

Topic: RE: America West/US Airways Changeover: Did It Happen?
Username: SonOfACaptain
Posted 2006-01-05 23:10:01 and read 3352 times.

Quoting SHUPirate1 (Reply 28):
Those HP CR9's are operating for HP in HP colors, actually.

No, they are operating for US.

-SOAC

Topic: RE: America West/US Airways Changeover: Did It Happen?
Username: SHUPirate1
Posted 2006-01-05 23:27:50 and read 3323 times.

Quoting SonOfACaptain (Reply 29):
No, they are operating for US.

They went back to operating for America West a couple of weeks ago. That said, those planes are still based in Charlotte, just operating as, in theory, America West Express...

Topic: RE: America West/US Airways Changeover: Did It Happen?
Username: SonOfACaptain
Posted 2006-01-05 23:36:15 and read 3309 times.

Quoting SHUPirate1 (Reply 30):
They went back to operating for America West a couple of weeks ago. That said, those planes are still based in Charlotte, just operating as, in theory, America West Express...

Well, somebody forgot to tell somebody that because I just flew on one a week ago and it was operating for US. Heck, there is no HP anymore. Everything is being called US now.

-SOAC

Topic: RE: America West/US Airways Changeover: Did It Happen?
Username: SHUPirate1
Posted 2006-01-05 23:41:38 and read 3302 times.

Quoting SonOfACaptain (Reply 31):
Well, somebody forgot to tell somebody that because I just flew on one a week ago and it was operating for US. Heck, there is no HP anymore. Everything is being called US now.

Try booking a flight from Charlotte to Houston after January 9th on US Airways...it'll be operated by America West Express, not US Airways Express...

Topic: RE: America West/US Airways Changeover: Did It Happen?
Username: SonOfACaptain
Posted 2006-01-06 00:16:03 and read 3273 times.

Quoting SHUPirate1 (Reply 32):
Try booking a flight from Charlotte to Houston after January 9th on US Airways...it'll be operated by America West Express, not US Airways Express...

No, it will be operated by "a regional aircraft operated by America West Express carrier Mesa Airlines. " Which means they are using HP's YV to operate a US flight. It is just like when any other regional airline operates for US. Trust me, they are operating for US.

-SOAC

Topic: RE: America West/US Airways Changeover: Did It Happen?
Username: Etops1
Posted 2006-01-06 00:43:06 and read 3251 times.

Quoting Zone1 (Reply 24):

all those crj's you saw are operated by air wisconsin. that's why the registration you saw ended with AW which stands for "Air Wisconsin" not "America West".

Topic: RE: America West/US Airways Changeover: Did It Happen?
Username: Av8rPHX
Posted 2006-01-06 01:11:28 and read 3223 times.

SOAC is right... anything east of IAH operated on our metal (CR9) in HP colors is "dba US Airways Express".

Topic: RE: America West/US Airways Changeover: Did It Happen?
Username: HAL
Posted 2006-01-06 10:31:30 and read 3094 times.

Quoting KYAir (Reply 8):
So, did what's mentioned in the above quote happen or not? Anyone know?

Yes it did.

From our company website: New announcements have been written and we're taking our first steps in 2006 toward a combined brand for our customers. Beginning Jan. 4, everyone should refer to the company as US Airways. Obviously, we'll have to clarify for our customers since the shift can't happen over night. But over time, they'll get to know the new US and they'll begin to see the airline emerge as we come together to build a winning airline, focused on delivering value and service to our customers. It's all about US!

We still exist as two separate airlines operating on two separate certificates, but the effort by management is to make it seem to the public that we are one airline. Of course the airplanes out of PHX and LAS still have the AWA paintjob and logo, but as pilots we are now supposed to say "Thank you for flying USAirways" in our announcements.

Quoting Gigneil (Reply 11):
Quoting Apodino (Reply 10):
Hopefully the merged airline will still use the CACTUS callsign.

It won't. No hopefully to it, the new airline will use the US certificate.

Actually that is still up for negotiation. Callsigns do change, and even though we will be using the old US certificate, it is only a minor paperwork change to get us to all use the "Cactus" callsign. I'm sure this will come up as part of the negotiations between the two pilot groups. And since over 90% of the new management is ex-AWA, there's a possibility that they may be pushing to keep the "Cactus" also.

Quoting Gigneil (Reply 11):
Well, here's one way it happened. americawest.com just doesn't work today.

As of today (early on the 6th) americawest.com is still working. It takes you to a screen where you choose AWA or USA. That too may change soon, but for now you still have a choice.

HAL


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