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Topic: Lufthansa A320 Incident In Belgrade
Username: Aleksandar
Posted 2006-02-09 12:57:12 and read 8076 times.

An A320 skidded of the taxiway in Belgrade this morning. There are no injured among passengers or crew. There were 63 passengers and five crew on board flight LH 3409 bound to Frankfurt. Sorry, no links in English yet, only one in Serbian:
http://www.rts.co.yu/jedna_vest.asp?source=komentar&IDNews=140933

Topic: RE: Lufthansa A320 Incident In Belgrade
Username: JoKeR
Posted 2006-02-09 13:19:33 and read 7992 times.

Too much rostilj and prepecenica for the German crew ha? Big grin

Glad everyone is OK!

Topic: RE: Lufthansa A320 Incident In Belgrade
Username: HBDAN
Posted 2006-02-09 13:20:28 and read 7992 times.

hmmmm i was just wondering, a load factor of only 42%...

Regards,
HBDAN

Topic: RE: Lufthansa A320 Incident In Belgrade
Username: JoKeR
Posted 2006-02-09 13:23:43 and read 7973 times.

Quoting HBDAN (Reply 2):
hmmmm i was just wondering, a load factor of only 42%...

Its the low season... plus a dull Thursday. FRA is ususally quite busy.

Topic: RE: Lufthansa A320 Incident In Belgrade
Username: Aleksandar
Posted 2006-02-09 13:36:46 and read 7893 times.

Quoting JoKeR (Reply 1):
Too much rostilj and prepecenica

 rotfl  "Moj Misko moze vezanih ociju..."

Seriously, plane ended some 80 meters off the taxiway. The cause was probably ice, or too much partying.... German investigators will come to Belgrade today.

Topic: RE: Lufthansa A320 Incident In Belgrade
Username: Vlada
Posted 2006-02-09 15:07:06 and read 7641 times.

So, is the plane still in the mud besides the taxiway?

I saw this A320 this morning at 5 when I arrived from Tel Aviv on JU071. Odd thing it slipped of the taxiway just an hour later.

A very good thing is that nobody's injured.

Regards,
Vlada

Topic: RE: Lufthansa A320 Incident In Belgrade
Username: Aleksandar
Posted 2006-02-09 15:29:47 and read 7557 times.

Quoting Vlada (Reply 5):
So, is the plane still in the mud besides the taxiway?

I suppose not. Everything seems just as usual, according to the teletext and BEG website.

Have you seen the registration of that plane?

Topic: RE: Lufthansa A320 Incident In Belgrade
Username: Breiz
Posted 2006-02-10 00:08:32 and read 7122 times.

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 6):
Have you seen the registration of that plane?

D-AIPF (MSN 0083) according to JACDEC:
http://www.jacdec.de/news/news.htm

Topic: RE: Lufthansa A320 Incident In Belgrade
Username: TowerEye
Posted 2006-02-10 01:18:36 and read 7029 times.

As of 1700h loc D-AIPF was still in mud with lot of ground staff around. According to my handhald Air Band receiver TWY A is CLSD fm TWY D to TWY E.  Smile

Topic: RE: Lufthansa A320 Incident In Belgrade
Username: AMSSFO
Posted 2006-02-10 01:27:44 and read 7012 times.

Another incident in Servia just happened today, now at Pristina airport:
http://www.serbianna.com/news/2006/01207.html
A MA Fokker 70 skidded of the runway while landing in snowy weather at Pristina on Thursday, prompting authorities to close the international airport.

None of the plane's 45 passengers and five crew members were injured, and no damage could be observed on the aircraft
airport closed

Topic: RE: Lufthansa A320 Incident In Belgrade
Username: Aleksandar
Posted 2006-02-10 03:54:16 and read 6895 times.

Quoting TowerEye (Reply 8):

I heard some rumours about near miss at BEG few days ago. The planes mentioned were Lufthansa from Munich trying to land and JAT plane still on the runway. Any truth in that?

Topic: RE: Lufthansa A320 Incident In Belgrade
Username: Dc863
Posted 2006-02-10 05:46:49 and read 6819 times.

LH with only a 46% load factor. AF packs them in like sardines to CDG. In Nov. my AF flight from BEG-CDG was 100% full.

Topic: RE: Lufthansa A320 Incident In Belgrade
Username: B707Stu
Posted 2006-02-10 09:07:21 and read 6163 times.

Seems like a job for Joe Petroni junior, mud, snow, ice. I can smell the box of cigarettes. Does Joe have relatives living there?

Topic: RE: Lufthansa A320 Incident In Belgrade
Username: A3xx900
Posted 2006-02-10 09:17:53 and read 6085 times.

Quoting Dc863 (Reply 11):
LH with only a 46% load factor. AF packs them in like sardines to CDG. In Nov. my AF flight from BEG-CDG was 100% full.

So? That was some 3 months ago... In January/February there's always a "hole" in business, not only aviation...
In November, our sales were 30% more than we were expecting, but now in February we have to deal with about 45% less... That's the way it is  Wink

Topic: RE: Lufthansa A320 Incident In Belgrade
Username: Haj96
Posted 2006-02-10 09:37:59 and read 5901 times.

Any news about the aircraft? Any major damages? Did it return to FRA already?
As of this article it was supposed to return to FRA yesterday already:

http://www.netzeitung.de/reise/381715.html (sorry, only german).

Thanks in advance for info.

Regards,
haj96

Topic: RE: Lufthansa A320 Incident In Belgrade
Username: Aleksandar
Posted 2006-02-10 11:59:41 and read 4912 times.

Quoting Haj96 (Reply 14):
Any major damages? Did it return to FRA already?

There are no major damages and the plane will return to Germany today.

Topic: RE: Lufthansa A320 Incident In Belgrade
Username: NumberTwelve
Posted 2006-02-10 12:55:42 and read 4519 times.

Quoting AMSSFO (Reply 9):
None of the plane's 45 passengers and five crew members were injured

On Netzeitung they are talking about 63 passengers.

Quoting Dc863 (Reply 11):
LH with only a 46% load factor. AF packs them in like sardines to CDG. In Nov. my AF flight from BEG-CDG was 100% full.



Quoting HBDAN (Reply 2):
a load factor of only 42%...

What do you expect? Always 100 % load factor? Have heared about Low and High seasons?

Topic: RE: Lufthansa A320 Incident In Belgrade
Username: TowerEye
Posted 2006-02-10 12:58:51 and read 4501 times.

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 10):

I am familiar with that event, but that was NOT a near miss, just a GO AROUND initiated by DLH pilot. JAT and DLH were packed tightly on an ILS, JAT reduced speed to minima, DLH being a little faster and that's all. DLH landed without any problems few minutes later.
Where did you hear about that?  eyebrow 

Topic: RE: Lufthansa A320 Incident In Belgrade
Username: Aleksandar
Posted 2006-02-10 13:14:57 and read 4454 times.

Quoting TowerEye (Reply 17):
Where did you hear about that?

On TV yesterday, I think BK (bit I'm not 100% sure because I switched channels frequently to find out more on A320) said that passengers from that flight contacted them, so it sounded a bit weird.

Topic: RE: Lufthansa A320 Incident In Belgrade
Username: TowerEye
Posted 2006-02-10 13:46:46 and read 4398 times.

And the TV station ( BK ) decided to call that a Near miss? Shame.

Topic: RE: Lufthansa A320 Incident In Belgrade
Username: SerbianSkies
Posted 2006-02-10 13:50:37 and read 4394 times.

I fly on LH3409 often -- in fact I will be on Monday -- and most of the time passengers are groggy due to the early departure time, so I can imagine their surprise when the plane plowed into the field ...

Does anyone have an idea when the preliminary incident report will be done? In these circumstances, do the Serbian and German CAA's do a joint investigation or separate?

Topic: RE: Lufthansa A320 Incident In Belgrade
Username: UN_B732
Posted 2006-02-10 13:52:09 and read 4381 times.

It IS BK after all  Wink
-Mr. X
PS: Here's my translation

The Jat Media Center has stated that most of the passengers on the Lufthansa plane that skidded off of the taxiway today, flew to Frankfurt at 14.00 on JAT flight 350, of the Serbian national carrier.

The Airbus A320 of the German company Lufthansa with 63 passengers and 5 crew members slid off of the taxiway at the 'Belgrade' airport in the morning, about 6.30am close to the time of the departure of Belgrade-Frankfurt

In a double statement, Belgrade Airport and Lufthansa haven't found the reason for the incident, they only said that noone was injured, and there was no apparent damage to the aircraft.

Of course, my Serbian isn't the best in the world  Wink

Topic: RE: Lufthansa A320 Incident In Belgrade
Username: Aleksandar
Posted 2006-02-10 13:54:56 and read 4363 times.

The information there sounded like a major alert. LH plane aborted landing in the last second, circling around, etc. In fact, if all they have were passengers' testimonies, that is understandable. Unprofessional, but understandable. After all, have you ever seen a decent information on anything related to civil aviation on any of the local TV channels?

Topic: RE: Lufthansa A320 Incident In Belgrade
Username: SerbianSkies
Posted 2006-02-10 13:55:05 and read 4363 times.

Quoting TowerEye (Reply 19):
And the TV station ( BK ) decided to call that a Near miss? Shame.

It was a slow news day because Bogoljub is outside the country.  Wink

Topic: RE: Lufthansa A320 Incident In Belgrade
Username: Aleksandar
Posted 2006-02-10 13:58:39 and read 4346 times.

Oh, BTW it also sounded like a major mistake from the tower, so I thought about organizing a demonstrations and throwing stones at you folks  Wink

Topic: RE: Lufthansa A320 Incident In Belgrade
Username: JoKeR
Posted 2006-02-10 16:05:45 and read 4196 times.

Quoting SerbianSkies (Reply 23):
It was a slow news day because Bogoljub is outside the country

Definitely, and D'n'D's album is not doing the best either Big grin

The "near miss" story is utter rubbish, an aborted landing, so what! It happens everywhere... just loooove the media!

Topic: RE: Lufthansa A320 Incident In Belgrade
Username: Aleksandar
Posted 2006-02-10 16:24:03 and read 4154 times.

Quoting JoKeR (Reply 25):
Definitely, and D'n'D's album is not doing the best either

I bet you have all their CDs and DVDs with video clips  biggrin 

Quoting JoKeR (Reply 25):
The "near miss" story is utter rubbish

I agree, just don't shoot poor messenger  scared   biggrin 

Topic: RE: Lufthansa A320 Incident In Belgrade
Username: JoKeR
Posted 2006-02-10 16:33:13 and read 4125 times.

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 26):
I bet you have all their CDs and DVDs with video clips

Yes, cannot live without them!

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 26):
I agree, just don't shoot poor messenger

 devil 

Topic: RE: Lufthansa A320 Incident In Belgrade
Username: Aleksandar
Posted 2006-02-10 16:40:16 and read 4107 times.

Quoting JoKeR (Reply 27):
Yes, cannot live without them!

So, you're the one from the first row who always screams?  Wink I mean, it's understandable, their music is something sooo special.

As for the incident the other day, we should all blame Caravelle. Always sitting at the same place, confusing poor pilots.

Topic: RE: Lufthansa A320 Incident In Belgrade
Username: TowerEye
Posted 2006-02-10 23:17:28 and read 3886 times.

As of Friday evening D-AIPF is still on LYBE, waiting to be serviced. It appears that some hydraulic pipes have been damaged. Consider this as an unofficial/unchecked information.
I am wondering what would be the procedure in case that DLH's B737-300 was damaged at LYBE? Would it be serviced by JAT technical department?


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