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Topic: Judge Gives 6 PM. Deadline For NWA, Pilots
Username: KarlB737
Posted 2006-03-02 20:17:36 and read 5746 times.

Courtesy: KSTP-TV

Judge Gives 6 PM. Deadline For NWA, Pilots

http://kstp.com/article/stories/S14559.html?cat=1

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Topic: RE: Judge Gives 6 PM. Deadline For NWA, Pilots
Username: KarlB737
Posted 2006-03-02 21:09:33 and read 5615 times.

Courtesy: Star-Tribune

Update As Of 2PM

Pilot Talks Continue; NWA Declines To Impose New Contract

http://www.startribune.com/535/story/280162.html

Topic: RE: Judge Gives 6 PM. Deadline For NWA, Pilots
Username: KarlB737
Posted 2006-03-03 00:37:43 and read 5360 times.

The Latest..............................

Courtesy: Reuters

Northwest, Pilots Union Negotiate Past Deadline

http://biz.yahoo.com/rb/060302/airlines_northwest.html?.v=3

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Courtesy: KARE-TV

NWA And Pilots Continue Talks

http://www.kare11.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=119888

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Topic: RE: Judge Gives 6 PM. Deadline For NWA, Pilots
Username: KarlB737
Posted 2006-03-03 01:05:36 and read 5269 times.

Courtesy: The Associated Press

Northwest, Pilots Keep Talking - 6:52PM

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/060302/airlines_labor.html?.v=11

Topic: RE: Judge Gives 6 PM. Deadline For NWA, Pilots
Username: Lightsaber
Posted 2006-03-03 02:47:36 and read 5089 times.

Quoting KarlB737 (Reply 3):
Northwest, Pilots Keep Talking - 6:52PM



Quote:
The threat of mutually assured destruction kept Northwest Airlines and its pilots at the bargaining table on Thursday.

Not too suprising. These DL and NW pilot negotiations are more intresting than I like.  crazy 

Why isn't NW going into arbitration?

Lightsaber

Topic: RE: Judge Gives 6 PM. Deadline For NWA, Pilots
Username: DTWAGENT
Posted 2006-03-03 02:59:46 and read 5043 times.

What this is boiling down to is the Judge does not want to make the ruling. He is hoping they can get and agreement. If he puts this ruleing off again tomorrow night, then he will never make the ruling. Is up to NWA and if they can they will break the union and impose new work rules and lower wages. And then we will have a strike.

Topic: RE: Judge Gives 6 PM. Deadline For NWA, Pilots
Username: Isitsafenow
Posted 2006-03-03 03:05:16 and read 5004 times.

Quoting DTWAGENT (Reply 5):
DTWAGENT

He is holding off because the two sides are close. He doesnt want to upset
the applecart unless it all comes unraveled.
I noticed that Allan Gropper is the SAME judge hearing the Tower Automotive case and he will rule March 13 on the contracts with the UAW in that matter.
Being from the DTW area, you are aware of the Tower Auto Chapter 11.
safe

Topic: RE: Judge Gives 6 PM. Deadline For NWA, Pilots
Username: Burnsie28
Posted 2006-03-03 15:56:16 and read 4354 times.

At least the good thing is the airlines says the wont impose a contract... If the sides are close, its looking good again for NW.

Topic: RE: Judge Gives 6 PM. Deadline For NWA, Pilots
Username: N742AT
Posted 2006-03-03 16:08:43 and read 4268 times.

Although the two sides are close to reaching and agreement I dont think that NW will be satified with the outcome either way. If they dont get the cutbacks their dead if they impose the contracts their dead. It seems NW is going to lose no matter the outcome of the ruling or the negotiations. BEST of luck to all those involved in one way or another.

Topic: RE: Judge Gives 6 PM. Deadline For NWA, Pilots
Username: Burnsie28
Posted 2006-03-03 16:14:58 and read 4228 times.

Quoting N742AT (Reply 8):
Although the two sides are close to reaching and agreement I dont think that NW will be satified with the outcome either way. If they dont get the cutbacks their dead if they impose the contracts their dead.

So far they will get cutback, both sides know what they can and can not afford, of course management wants a lot more then what they can afford. At the same time the pilots knowing what the airline can afford is not going to try and get a contract that wouldnt allow them to come out of it.

Topic: RE: Judge Gives 6 PM. Deadline For NWA, Pilots
Username: Redneckslim
Posted 2006-03-03 16:23:20 and read 4162 times.

N W A ...... A very sick old man in his death throwes, As an old man dies, a newborn baby cries!

Topic: RE: Judge Gives 6 PM. Deadline For NWA, Pilots
Username: Isitsafenow
Posted 2006-03-03 16:26:54 and read 4145 times.

Quoting Redneckslim (Reply 10):
As an old man dies, a newborn baby cries!

And who might that be?
safe

Topic: RE: Judge Gives 6 PM. Deadline For NWA, Pilots
Username: AA777223
Posted 2006-03-03 17:30:05 and read 3715 times.

I understand they want good wages, but if the airline folds, they will have no wages, then they'll really be upset.

Topic: RE: Judge Gives 6 PM. Deadline For NWA, Pilots
Username: DTWAGENT
Posted 2006-03-03 17:42:13 and read 3624 times.

Well NWA could start by cutting managements pay. They have yet to do that. They want to cut everyone elses pay, but they will not even think about cutting managements pay.......CO did that to help out with their employees and airline...Also, the employees don't trust anyone in management. Sounds like another UA.

Topic: RE: Judge Gives 6 PM. Deadline For NWA, Pilots
Username: Bobnwa
Posted 2006-03-03 17:48:13 and read 3557 times.

Quoting DTWAGENT (Reply 13):
Well NWA could start by cutting managements pay. They have yet to do that. They want to cut everyone elses pay, but they will not even think about cutting managements pay

Every manager at Northwest already has had his pay cut by 20% and his pension frozen. I suggest you do a little research before writing such false statements.

Topic: RE: Judge Gives 6 PM. Deadline For NWA, Pilots
Username: 747LUVR
Posted 2006-03-03 17:51:57 and read 3522 times.

I think, and believe The old man is in reference to NW....and the newborn baby....a new LCC.....just from what I took of the post.

Topic: RE: Judge Gives 6 PM. Deadline For NWA, Pilots
Username: Ckfred
Posted 2006-03-03 20:02:54 and read 2832 times.

As a lawyer, I don't like judges that are afraid to cut off negotiations and rule or set a trial date.

It's to the benefit of both parties to continue talking, but the judge needs to say that at 6pm, he will rule. No ifs, ands or buts.

Granted, the judge may be signing NW's obituary, regardless whether he voids the contract or not, but that's why he's a judge.

Topic: RE: Judge Gives 6 PM. Deadline For NWA, Pilots
Username: AirRyan
Posted 2006-03-03 20:34:14 and read 2634 times.

Quoting DTWAGENT (Reply 5):
What this is boiling down to is the Judge does not want to make the ruling.



Quoting Ckfred (Reply 16):
As a lawyer, I don't like judges that are afraid to cut off negotiations and rule or set a trial date.

It's to the benefit of both parties to continue talking, but the judge needs to say that at 6pm, he will rule. No ifs, ands or buts.

Granted, the judge may be signing NW's obituary, regardless whether he voids the contract or not, but that's why he's a judge.

I totally agree, WTF good is a deadline if it's already been pulled back 2 or 3 times already?

This judge doesn't appear to have the intestinal fortitude to do his job - it's NW who had gotten themselves to this point and not the courts, all that the courts need do now is what the law dictates.

Topic: RE: Judge Gives 6 PM. Deadline For NWA, Pilots
Username: DLKAPA
Posted 2006-03-03 20:39:33 and read 2608 times.

Quoting Redneckslim (Reply 10):
As an old man dies, a newborn baby cries!

"lightning crashes, an old mother dies
her intentions fall to the floor
the angel closes her eyes
the confusion that was hers
belongs now, to the baby down the hall"


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