FCA have once again been hit by a big delay at CWL.

The CWL-PMI-CWL flight has been operated by a Boeing 757-200, currently 8 and a half hours behind schedule.

I don't know about the CWL-EFL flight, all I know is it's about 2 hours behind schedule.

Any ideas what happened to our A320?

Quoting Cwldude (Thread starter): Any ideas what happened to our A320?

Aircraft taxied into ground equipment meaning damage to engine, which now needs to be replaced

Two replacement aircraft at CWL today, both ferried in from MAN for FCA flights.
The aircraft i/b from EFL returns to MAN in the early hours of the morning.

Thanks for that, what about the B757, it's off to REU shortly, boarding at the moment, how long's that gonna be with us?? and what aircraft was chartered in to fly to EFL?

AFAIK...

C FTDG is the damaged aircraft

G OOAR (A320) arrived from MAN as FCA724P and then operated to EFL as FCA870C

G OOBJ (757) arrived from ??? as FCA105D and then positioned to MAN as FCA757P

If there is currently a FCA 757 @ CWL, then this is a 3rd aircraft?

Sorry my fault.

There's an A320 currently CWL-REU-CWL, I assumed it would be the B757 as it landed from PMI, and shortly after it landed the REU started boarding!

So is our A320 back in the air or is it another positioned one?

[Edited 2006-06-21 00:23:00]

PMI had been having a bad day with delays!

Our Thomsonfly flight suffered a 6 hour delay today after the captain hit stairs while pulling onto stand in G-CDZM (737-800)

We managed to charter a Futura 734 which departed 6 hours after the original departure time, the GRO was also delayed by an hour as ZM was also due to operate this flight, luckily the aircraft was deemed fit for service and departed an hour late, any later and it would have been CXN until the morning due to the runway closing!

What a fun day  

Quoting Diesel1 (Reply 3): C FTDG

Do you mean C-GTDG? Just had a look for C-FTDG and can't find anything on that registration. It is quite confusing with the MYT and FCA Canadian registrations quite similar C-GTDK C-GTDG C-GTDM.

I was meaning to ask a question about C-GTDG (ex G-OOAS), is this Aircraft likely to gain its UK registration again? Or is it no longer with First Choice and now a Skyservice Aircraft? CAA saying it de-registered in 2004, so I guess unlikely to be back on UK register again.

MyTravel B767 G-DAJC is back from Skyservice:

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Quoting Cosmic (Reply 6): Do you mean C-GTDG?

Yes I did, thanks for the correction

Quoting Cosmic (Reply 6): is this Aircraft likely to gain its UK registration again?

Presumably it is easier to bring Canadian registered aircraft into the UK to operate with Canadian flight deck crew, then to re-register the aircraft back to the UK, and then operate the a/c with the Canadian crew on a UK registered a/c...?   

Quote: MyTravel B767 G-DAJC is back from Skyservice

It certainly is. I got some nice footage of it departing Manchester on runway 24L last Saturday  

Quoting Diesel1 (Reply 1): Aircraft taxied into ground equipment meaning damage to engine, which now needs to be replaced

What Transpired.Was the Equipment parked wrongly or the Aircraft at Fault.
regds
MEL

Quoting Diesel1 (Reply 7): Presumably it is easier to bring Canadian registered aircraft into the UK to operate with Canadian flight deck crew, then to re-register the aircraft back to the UK, and then operate the a/c with the Canadian crew on a UK registered a/c...?

I'm not sure, though I would think that it would be easier not to change the registration. I was comparing them to MYT, where the Aircraft change registration. I'm not sure about the flight crew though? Would the MYT aircraft from Skyservice have Canadian flight crews in the summer? I'm sure there are some First Choice 757s which change registrations.

Can anyone clarify things?

Quoting Mogget (Reply 8): It certainly is. I got some nice footage of it departing Manchester on runway 24L last Saturday

It's nice to have the two B767s back with MYT again. Anyone know what there reliability has been like?

FCA and Skyservice have an agreement which operates year-round.

The aircraft are all still part of the FCA fleet.

For winter 2006/2007, 2 A320s - GOOAS (CGTDG) and GOOAT (CGTDH), and 6 757s - GOOBB (CGTBB), GOOBH (CFOBH), GOOBG (CFUBG), GOOOZ (CGOOZ), GCPEU (CFLEU) and GCPEV (CGOEV) - go to Canada. Also, GOOOC (CFTDV) stays in Canada year round.

When in Canada, the aircraft all fly exclusively for the tour operator Signature Vacations, which is part of the First Choice Group, therefore First Choice controls the flying programme.

FCA send some pilots to Canada in the winter, who operate the aircraft alongside Skyservice flight deck crew.

In the summer, all aircraft with the exception of GOOOC return to the UK. They revert back to their UK registration, with the exception of the two A320s and 757 CGTBB.

The A320s currently operate out of Cardiff and Belfast, and the 757 in Dublin. All are crewed by SSV pilots (with one FCA captain in BFS). In BFS and CWL, SSV are in charge of the engineering, but in DUB it is the FCA Engineers who maintain the aircraft. Cabin Crew are all FCA - but they have to undergo five days of conversion training to operate to Transport Canada regulations.

Hope that helps!

Quoting Sausageandmash (Reply 11): Hope that helps!

It has helped alot, now I understand these arrangements better. You've explained everything I wanted to know and more.

Thanks!
Cosmic

Quoting Sausageandmash (Reply 11): For winter 2006/2007, 2 A320s - GOOAS (CGTDG) and GOOAT (CGTDH), and 6 757s - GOOBB (CGTBB), GOOBH (CFOBH), GOOBG (CFUBG), GOOOZ (CGOOZ), GCPEU (CFLEU) and GCPEV (CGOEV) - go to Canada. Also, GOOOC (CFTDV) stays in Canada year round.

G-CPEV has always been on the UK register, its G-OOOK which is leased out, as C-FLOK.

The A320's AS and AT, and 757's BB, OC stay C reg all year, as its far cheaper to keep them flying under C marks during our summer season, it costs a fair bit to transfer registrations back and forward, and if your doing that twice a year for each aircraft it adds up.

When you lease to a Canadain operator the aircraft can only fly under C marks, but in the UK it doesn't matter.
So these 4 aircraft are kept under C marks, as FCA know they well be going back next winter. Over the past years the other 757's have followed, and an extra one has gone each year.

Its the same with Excel keeping 2 738's in C marks, as they will be going back to Sunwing at the end of summer.

Mark

Quoting Jetset7E7 (Reply 13): Its the same with Excel keeping 2 738's in C marks, as they will be going back to Sunwing at the end of summer.

And one of these is also based at CWL! What's the deal with giving us all the Canadian planes???

How come MYT change the registrations?

Quoting Cwldude (Reply 14): And one of these is also based at CWL! What's the deal with giving us all the Canadian planes???

Whats wrong with them!

well it's easier to have a seperate base there and have seperate crews than mix the crews with LGW and MAN. The other Sunwing 738 is based at GLA, which rotates with the CWL one.

The flight and cabin crew are only trained on that aircraft because it's C reg, so an isolated base is easier.

Quoting Cosmic (Reply 15): How come MYT change the registrations?

With MyTravel its something to do with Insurance, and operating licence.

Mark

Not just the A320 having problem there is a B757 supposed to be going to Sanford today.

Quoting Destinations (Reply 17): Not just the A320 having problem there is a B757 supposed to be going to Sanford today.

oh and yesterday from gla

Quoting Jetset7E7 (Reply 13): G-CPEV has always been on the UK register, its G-OOOK which is leased out, as C-FLOK.

Yes, for winter just passed.........

But I said "for winter 2006/2007" GCPEV is going to Canada as CGOEV.

GOOOK is staying here. Check the company intranet!