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Topic: DET Airport Launches Air Passenger Service
Username: Neilalp
Posted 2006-07-25 20:11:22 and read 4569 times.

Per the news...

Flights will run between Detroit, Cleveland and Cincinnati.
The service is from a Cleveland-based Charter Company called Destination One. A round-trip ticket to Cleveland will cost $341.00 and a round trip ticket to Cincinnati will cost $428.00.

The service will start July 31.

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/9571894/detail.html


Seems costly to me but at least they are giving it shot.

Topic: RE: DET Airport Launches Air Passenger Service
Username: FOMEA
Posted 2006-07-25 20:17:33 and read 4557 times.

Quoting Neilalp (Thread starter):
Seems costly to me but at least they are giving it shot.

Exactly my thoughts.
Whats with those Prices? Are they usually that high?



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Topic: RE: DET Airport Launches Air Passenger Service
Username: LesMainwaring
Posted 2006-07-25 20:34:52 and read 4522 times.

the airlines web is ... www.flydestinationone.com

they are flying from downtown airports in detroit (city), cleveland (burke) and cincinnati (lunken) ... other destinations include hilton head and kiawah, s.c. using embraer 120s

Topic: RE: DET Airport Launches Air Passenger Service
Username: Falcon84
Posted 2006-07-25 20:43:06 and read 4497 times.

Someone started a thread on this not long ago from the BKL perspective.

Topic: RE: DET Airport Launches Air Passenger Service
Username: 2H4
Posted 2006-07-25 20:44:24 and read 4497 times.



I wonder if that price includes armed escorts to and from the DET terminal...




2H4




[Edited 2006-07-25 20:45:01]

Topic: RE: DET Airport Launches Air Passenger Service
Username: Kevin82277
Posted 2006-07-25 20:59:47 and read 4457 times.

Cleveland to Hilton Head. I am not sure I want to spend over 3 hours in a EMB-120 for $395. I can buy a much cheaper airfare to SAV for much shorter time.

Topic: RE: DET Airport Launches Air Passenger Service
Username: Luv2fly
Posted 2006-07-25 21:06:18 and read 4437 times.

Quoting 2H4 (Reply 4):


I wonder if that price includes armed escorts to and from the DET terminal...

Yeah since airports tend to be located in only the best areas of town, i.e. EWR!

Topic: RE: DET Airport Launches Air Passenger Service
Username: MCOflyer
Posted 2006-07-25 21:29:02 and read 4407 times.

I've 1hr and 30min on a Comair E120 MCO-NAS and back to MCO. Not that bad. I could do 3hrs on Dash 8 easily.

Btw, $849 rond trip. I can get a chaper walk up fare.

MCOflyer

Topic: RE: DET Airport Launches Air Passenger Service
Username: TheLUREnyc
Posted 2006-07-26 00:49:30 and read 4309 times.

Does anyone have any photos of this new carrier?

Topic: RE: DET Airport Launches Air Passenger Service
Username: Scutfarcus
Posted 2006-07-26 04:00:37 and read 4205 times.

fascinating... it's a very good idea, but gonna take a lot. I'm suprised they don't go from DET to bigger markets like New York or MDW. Well, this is worth watching for sure.

Topic: RE: DET Airport Launches Air Passenger Service
Username: Jetdeltamsy
Posted 2006-07-26 04:55:42 and read 4152 times.

DET didn't work for Southwest. It will be interesting to see if this works.

Topic: RE: DET Airport Launches Air Passenger Service
Username: MasseyBrown
Posted 2006-07-26 07:46:13 and read 4060 times.

Quoting Neilalp (Thread starter):
Seems costly to me but at least they are giving it shot.

They must have some guaranteed business to be starting up these routes. Cleveland has three really big law firms that could be behind it. They can't be planning to live off of walk-up tourists.

One-stop to Hilton Head at over three hours does seem a bit long, although it's had to get to SAV in less time. Two and a quarter to Kiawah isn't bad at all, though. The fares? If you can afford the greens fees, you can afford the fares.

Added: For comparison, CLE-DTW r/t fares for a two day trip next week on CO or NW are over $400.

[Edited 2006-07-26 07:55:19]

Topic: RE: DET Airport Launches Air Passenger Service
Username: Ntspelich
Posted 2006-07-26 11:15:03 and read 4019 times.

A relative of mine is tied in with this venture, and he was telling me that they already have pretty solid bookings for both routes. Lots of business travellers willing to pay for the convience. The parent company also runs lots of charters on ERJs that they picked up from, I believe, ExpressJet.

NS

Topic: RE: DET Airport Launches Air Passenger Service
Username: Falstaff
Posted 2006-07-26 18:08:52 and read 3919 times.

I've checked on fares from DTW-CLE and these guys seem to be competitive. DET is in a ROUGH part of town and I would worry about my car if I left it in a parking area at DET.

Topic: RE: DET Airport Launches Air Passenger Service
Username: PSU.DTW.SCE
Posted 2006-07-28 00:20:36 and read 3813 times.

This is basically a glorified charter operation. I wouldn't get to excited about the return of air service to DET. This is a niche operation at best.

Topic: RE: DET Airport Launches Air Passenger Service
Username: MasseyBrown
Posted 2006-07-28 07:08:56 and read 3734 times.

Quoting PSU.DTW.SCE (Reply 14):
This is a niche operation at best.

Anything commercial activity, even public charters, at DET, BKL, and LUK is exciting.  Smile

Topic: RE: DET Airport Launches Air Passenger Service
Username: OptionsCLE
Posted 2006-07-28 10:10:19 and read 3711 times.

Quoting MasseyBrown (Reply 15):
Anything commercial activity, even public charters, at DET, BKL, and LUK is exciting.

I agree! Flights from BKL would be very convenient for east-side Clevelanders. Of course CGF would be even better...we can all dream.

I just checked out a ticket BKL-DET-BKL and it's $212.85 for mid August, that's pretty reasonable.

Best of luck to them!

Topic: RE: DET Airport Launches Air Passenger Service
Username: Chrisjake
Posted 2006-07-28 16:01:26 and read 3674 times.

they currently have 3 aircraft tied to this service. N651CT and N652CT will be doing most of the flying at 1st. N267AS is the other one, its in Fla right now and will probably be there for awhile yet.


chris

Topic: RE: DET Airport Launches Air Passenger Service
Username: Mbm3
Posted 2006-07-28 16:35:29 and read 3658 times.

It will be interesting to how these new routes do for Destination One. I agree that a lot of the big legal and financial firms here in Cleveland would love the easy logistics of this service, though the weekend golfer flights seem to be a bit of a stretch.

I am surprise that Columbus or Pittsburgh were not on the list, though they may not have a smaller airport closer to downtown.

Topic: RE: DET Airport Launches Air Passenger Service
Username: MasseyBrown
Posted 2006-07-28 20:57:31 and read 3612 times.

Quoting Mbm3 (Reply 18):
I am surprise that Columbus or Pittsburgh were not on the list,

Pittsburgh has Allegheny County Airport, about 8 miles SE of downtown. Maybe it will be come with the arrival of the third aircraft.

I remember liking Brasilias (need for speed); hope I get a chance to try this service.

Topic: RE: DET Airport Launches Air Passenger Service
Username: Falstaff
Posted 2006-07-28 22:31:43 and read 3582 times.

Quoting Jetdeltamsy (Reply 10):
DET didn't work for Southwest

An article in 7-27-06 Detroit Free Press stated that the best year for the airport was in 1990 with 782,679 passengers. That was when Southwest was there. How long was Southwest at DET?

Topic: RE: DET Airport Launches Air Passenger Service
Username: FI642
Posted 2006-07-29 04:32:13 and read 3521 times.

Don't forget ProAir who operated from DET for several years.
Early on they were quite successful.

Topic: RE: DET Airport Launches Air Passenger Service
Username: EXAAUADL
Posted 2006-07-29 11:08:25 and read 3459 times.

Their frequency doesnt seem high enough. Also the EM-120 might be a bit big for these routes. Nothing good can come from low frequency with "large" planes in a business market.

Fly those routes 5-7x Mon-Fri with Beech 1900s or Cessna 402s.

Weekends charter them out. I am not sure that would work either, but a business plan with a EMB-120 and 1-2 weekday flights per market wont work unless they have a contract with some big company already.

Topic: RE: DET Airport Launches Air Passenger Service
Username: Filejw
Posted 2006-07-29 15:01:09 and read 3436 times.

The might make it. Long time ago wright Airlines flew DET to BKL with CV 440's and did well.

[Edited 2006-07-29 15:02:23]

Topic: RE: DET Airport Launches Air Passenger Service
Username: Stirling
Posted 2006-07-29 15:17:57 and read 3426 times.

There once was a very successful operator between BKL and DET; TAG Airlines.

The fare oneway between the two airports was $14.00, which by the way was higher than the $10.00 fare charged by the major airlines between DTW and CLE.

They did really good business until a fatal crash squashed public confidence.

$14.00 in 2006 dollars is $89.16.

Topic: RE: DET Airport Launches Air Passenger Service
Username: OptionsCLE
Posted 2006-07-29 16:41:09 and read 3391 times.

Quoting Stirling (Reply 24):
$14.00 in 2006 dollars is $89.16.

Add in 2006 fuel prices and $99.00 one way on this new carrier looks pretty reasonable.

Topic: RE: DET Airport Launches Air Passenger Service
Username: KarlB737
Posted 2006-07-29 19:20:51 and read 3346 times.

Quoting Jetdeltamsy (Reply 10):
DET didn't work for Southwest.

I believe DET was working for Southwest. I flew out of there during that time and the terminal was packed. However WN wanted longer concrete from the City of Detroit and they didn't get it.

Quoting Falstaff (Reply 13):
DET is in a ROUGH part of town and I would worry about my car if I left it in a parking area at DET.

In reference to the above I parked my car in the fenced in lot which is just north of the terminal and had no problems with safety issues. If there was an issue relating to parking is that you needed to get there early to insure getting a spot. Parking space was limited.

Topic: RE: DET Airport Launches Air Passenger Service
Username: Jetdeltamsy
Posted 2006-07-30 05:56:29 and read 3260 times.

Quoting KarlB737 (Reply 26):
Quoting Jetdeltamsy (Reply 10):
DET didn't work for Southwest.

I believe DET was working for Southwest. I flew out of there during that time and the terminal was packed. However WN wanted longer concrete from the City of Detroit and they didn't get it.

Whatever the reason, they pulled out. So clearly, as i said, it wasn't working for them. I couldn't understand why they tried to service both fields at the same time anyway.

Topic: RE: DET Airport Launches Air Passenger Service
Username: Stirling
Posted 2006-07-30 06:21:38 and read 3243 times.

Quoting Jetdeltamsy (Reply 27):
Whatever the reason, they pulled out. So clearly, as i said, it wasn't working for them

I have heard from those on the inside at WN, that DET became an issue of safety. Nothing more.

Topic: RE: DET Airport Launches Air Passenger Service
Username: SBNair3022
Posted 2006-07-31 10:22:13 and read 3149 times.

how did this airline go undetected for so long? Shouldn't it have been big news if the airline wanted to make a splash and really get into the market??

Topic: RE: DET Airport Launches Air Passenger Service
Username: OPNLguy
Posted 2006-07-31 10:30:58 and read 3148 times.

Quoting KarlB737 (Reply 26):
I believe DET was working for Southwest. I flew out of there during that time and the terminal was packed. However WN wanted longer concrete from the City of Detroit and they didn't get it.

True. The existing 15/33 couldn't be extended due to cemetaries at either end, so there was talk of building a parallel to 15/33. That ran into a snag, since a rail line that needed to be relocated would have resulted in too sharp a curve, and not properly lined up with an existing railroad bridge over the freeway.

Topic: RE: DET Airport Launches Air Passenger Service
Username: MasseyBrown
Posted 2006-07-31 17:02:32 and read 3100 times.

Quoting SBNair3022 (Reply 29):
Shouldn't it have been big news if the airline wanted to make a splash and really get into the market??

Given their route system, they don't really need much of a splash outside of Cincinnati, Cleveland, and Detroit. In the days of Tag, Wright, Freedom, all people ever saw was a small box on the business pages of local papers and a billboard or two.

Which makes me wonder, did Comair ever try these in-town airports during its pre-Delta days?

Topic: RE: DET Airport Launches Air Passenger Service
Username: KarlB737
Posted 2006-08-03 20:02:12 and read 3000 times.

Courtesy: Mercury News

Passenger Service Restart Delayed At Detroit City Airport

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercu...ws/news/breaking_news/15170804.htm

Topic: RE: DET Airport Launches Air Passenger Service
Username: KarlB737
Posted 2006-08-13 01:50:59 and read 2885 times.

An Update On Detroit City Airport - DET

Courtesy: The Detroit News

A New Hope For City Airport

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll...e?AID=/20060812/BIZ/608120349/1001

[Edited 2006-08-13 01:56:56]

Topic: RE: DET Airport Launches Air Passenger Service
Username: Access-Air
Posted 2006-08-13 03:54:38 and read 2810 times.

Quoting MasseyBrown (Reply 31):
Which makes me wonder, did Comair ever try these in-town airports during its pre-Delta days?

no but I think that Wright Airlines did.....before they merged in the mid 80s with Aeromech they flew Convair 600s and 640s into and out of Burke and Detroit City...to Cincinnati and Dayton and Columbus....

Access-Air


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