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Topic: Airports scheduled to see the A 380 as of now
Username: Af773atmsp
Posted 2006-09-14 22:57:04 and read 11484 times.

While looking in a airliner magazine I was reding about the A380. It said that the A380 can land, load, and unload passengers at any airport the 747 flys to. I also read a A380 book and it showed the 2007 scheduled airports to have the A380. Heres a list of some of the airports that will have the A380.

LAX
NRT
SFO
MSP
LHR and LGW
SYD
CDG

There are some other airports but I forgot the other airports.

Topic: Airports scheduled to see the A 380 as of now
Username: Solnabo
Posted 2006-09-14 23:05:39 and read 11453 times.

Yes it can, the problem w A388 is taxiways due to wingspan (almost 80 m ).

Micke//  Smile

Topic: Airports scheduled to see the A 380 as of now
Username: Goldorak
Posted 2006-09-14 23:08:30 and read 11438 times.

you forgot obviously SIN as the first airlines who will fly A380 is SQ.
You can also add to your list : FRA (LH), DXB (EK), YUL, PEK, JFK

Topic: Airports scheduled to see the A 380 as of now
Username: Stitch
Posted 2006-09-14 23:09:53 and read 11414 times.

Yes, the A380 should be able to land and take-off on any runway capable of handling a 747. And provided you have a patch of tarmac large enough, it can park there and load-and-unload.

However, structures adjacent to the taxiways might be in the path of the A380's outboard engines or wingtips/wingfences. Also, remote-standing an A380 is very inefficient in terms of loading and unloading both passengers and cargo.

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: Gr8Circle
Posted 2006-09-14 23:29:01 and read 11364 times.

Won't YYZ be A380 ready very soon....?

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: Bnamaxx
Posted 2006-09-14 23:31:13 and read 11352 times.

As per their websites, MCO and DFW are 380 compatible. That doesn't mean they will get service, but they are able to host it in a pax situation if needed.

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: Af773atmsp
Posted 2006-09-14 23:32:45 and read 11352 times.

How much longer is the A380's wings to the 747's wings? It is true that something may be in the way.

How could I forget JFK, FRA, and DXB.

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: Gemuser
Posted 2006-09-14 23:39:57 and read 11325 times.

MEL will see the A380 when QF introduce their first service MEL-LAX. I supect AKL, CHC, BNE & PER will also see A380 on an ad hoc if not regular service basis. SYD-AKL/CHC are very common "work up" routes for QF, they often see aircraft substitions for maintance/training purposes.

Gemuser

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: Zvezda
Posted 2006-09-14 23:43:40 and read 11316 times.

There are about 24 airports that are prepared or preparing for regular WhaleJet ops. Many more will be official alternates, suitable for ETOPS planning depending on weather, and will be able to load and unload passengers using stairs. There are yet more (including all 210 airports equipped for regular JumboJet ops) than could, in an emergency, accommodate a WhaleJet and unload the passengers on the runway using stairs. In an extreme emergency, there are yet more airports at which a WhaleJet could land, but takeoff would require stripping out the interior, etc.

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: Jsposaune
Posted 2006-09-15 01:32:02 and read 11226 times.

Don't forget MEM and IND, for FedEx

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: DeltaGator
Posted 2006-09-15 01:39:07 and read 11209 times.

Quoting Af773atmsp (Thread starter):
MSP

Minneapolis? Who's going to fly the A380 there? Nobody I can think of right now. Yes, you all get the 747 but I don't believe NW is going to get any A380s any time in the near future nor will anyone who is going to operate them fly them there.

Won't Hong Kong see it? Won't SQ have to continue to make a stop on the SIN-HKG-SFO route because of range?

I know who won't be getting the A380...ATL. They have said they won't go through the hopps to build stuff up to not get flights. At least make one or two of the gates compatible and plan for it at the new international terminal if you can ever quit bitching about what city leader's family will make the most money off of the deal.

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: EGTESkyGod
Posted 2006-09-15 01:51:49 and read 11176 times.

I have a feeling we'll be seeing A380's at MAN before too long.

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: CanadianNorth
Posted 2006-09-15 02:01:07 and read 11146 times.

Quoting Zvezda (Reply 8):
Many more will be official alternates, suitable for ETOPS planning

Sorry to be off topic, but what does ETOPS have to do with the A380?
(ETOPS = Extended Twin-engine OPerationS)


CanadianNorth

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: SLCPilot
Posted 2006-09-15 02:26:16 and read 11118 times.

SDF, ANC andONT ?

What's the list up to now?

SLCPilot

[Edited 2006-09-15 02:27:35]

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: STT757
Posted 2006-09-15 03:12:58 and read 11068 times.

Quoting Jsposaune (Reply 9):
Don't forget MEM and IND, for FedEx

How about EWR, after MEM and IND EWR is one of FX's largest US hubs.

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: Travelin man
Posted 2006-09-15 03:25:17 and read 11033 times.

Quoting Af773atmsp (Thread starter):
I also read a A380 book and it showed the 2007 scheduled airports to have the A380.

Given that as few as four A380s may be delivered in 2007, (if rumors are to be believed) your list of airports would actually be quite a bit smaller (SIN, LAX, NRT, SFO, LHR, and wherever else SQ may fly them in '07).

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: Gunsontheroof
Posted 2006-09-15 03:49:43 and read 10999 times.

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 10):
I know who won't be getting the A380...ATL. They have said they won't go through the hopps to build stuff up to not get flights. At least make one or two of the gates compatible and plan for it at the new international terminal if you can ever quit bitching about what city leader's family will make the most money off of the deal.

Officials at SEA have also said that they won't be making upgrades to accommodate the A380. While I don't think that either ATL or SEA would be at the top of any A380 operator's list for new service, their respective markets are certainly large enough to make their refusal to upgrade their facilities to A380 specifications noteworthy.

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: Af773atmsp
Posted 2006-09-15 04:14:15 and read 10964 times.

MSP, MEM, and some other small airports would be in the second phase. The second phase is airports that are large cargo hubs. MSP would get the FedEx and UPS A380s. There has also been rumours that AF might fly to MSP. I'm not saying AF's A380s would fly to MSP but you never know.

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: Stitch
Posted 2006-09-15 04:20:44 and read 10950 times.

Quoting Gunsontheroof (Reply 16):
Officials at SEA have also said that they won't be making upgrades to accommodate the A380. While I don't think that either ATL or SEA would be at the top of any A380 operator's list for new service, their respective markets are certainly large enough to make their refusal to upgrade their facilities to A380 specifications noteworthy.

Not sure "noteworthy" is the right word...  Smile

While we here at SEA see some 747 service (BA and BR), many of our 747 and DC-10 service has been replaced with 777s, A330s, and A340s. We've also spent billions on terminal renovations, including a new concourse. If we thought the A380 would be visiting us, we'd probably have included her in the planning.

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: SLCUT2777
Posted 2006-09-15 04:22:28 and read 10945 times.

Quoting Gr8Circle (Reply 4):
Won't YYZ be A380 ready very soon....?

YYZ and YVR will be the first two Canadian airports to see it, with possibly YUL when AF gets theirs. YYC will be a likely diversionary airport.
Additional US airports will likely include MIA, DFW, ORD and DEN. SLC could see one on an emergency diversion (Virgin Atlantic has set down a 744 here on a few occasions).

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: Scoliodon
Posted 2006-09-15 04:46:39 and read 10904 times.

Cochin International Airport is A380 ready. Probably Kingfisher will fly Cochin - LHR..

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: Jean Leloup
Posted 2006-09-15 05:01:36 and read 10878 times.

Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 19):
YYZ and YVR will be the first two Canadian airports to see it

What's your basis for that? I haven't heard of any airlines planning to take A380 to either YYZ or YVR, making AF's service to YUL almost certainly the first to Canada. Not that that will necessarily happen next year, however...

JL

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: Gunsontheroof
Posted 2006-09-15 05:04:18 and read 10872 times.

Quoting Stitch (Reply 18):
While we here at SEA see some 747 service (BA and BR), many of our 747 and DC-10 service has been replaced with 777s, A330s, and A340s. We've also spent billions on terminal renovations, including a new concourse. If we thought the A380 would be visiting us, we'd probably have included her in the planning.

Not really...the only 747 service I can think of that's been replaced with a smaller aircraft is NW's SEA-NRT flight, and that's mostly because NW started PDX-NRT and eliminated the need for PDX passengers to connect at SEA. Otherwise, I can't think of a single route at SEA currently served by a B777/A340 sized aircraft that was regularly served with a 747 in recent history. That isn't to say that SEA would be getting A380 service if they paid for the upgrades (I doubt we would), but I don't think it would be totally out of the realm of possibility, particularly if some more Asian carriers placed orders.

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: Fedexexpress
Posted 2006-09-15 05:18:16 and read 10835 times.

Quoting Af773atmsp (Reply 17):
MSP, MEM, and some other small airports would be in the second phase. The second phase is airports that are large cargo hubs. MSP would get the FedEx and UPS A380s.

I can tell you that MSP won't get a A380 from FEDEX. MEM will but not MSP. MEM is a huge cargo airport not a small one like you said. It just happens to be the biggest and busiest cargo airport in the world.  Wink  Wink  Big grin

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: SLCUT2777
Posted 2006-09-15 05:34:21 and read 10814 times.

Quoting Jean Leloup (Reply 21):
What's your basis for that? I haven't heard of any airlines planning to take A380 to either YYZ or YVR, making AF's service to YUL almost certainly the first to Canada.

 snooty 

Look at all the big Asian & Middle Eastern carriers (Singapore, Emirates) that are first to get it. They only serve YVR and YYZ. YUL will likely see it from AF sooner or later, but all serious bets are that YYZ and YVR will see it well before  razz ! The center for Canada isn't around Quebec and YUL, nor does anyone outside of P.Q. even remotely think that!  mischievous   laughing 

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: Kaitak744
Posted 2006-09-15 06:48:22 and read 10739 times.

Quoting Af773atmsp (Thread starter):
I also read a A380 book and it showed the 2007 scheduled airports to have the A380. Heres a list of some of the airports that will have the A380.

LAX
NRT
SFO
MSP
LHR and LGW
SYD
CDG

There are some other airports but I forgot the other airports.

I think these are the airports the A380 is going on tour in. Airbus's A380 program manager promised a world airport tour to guarantee airport compatibility. So, I guess this is it. SYD, and LHR however have already been covered. And LGW??? who is going to fly the A380 there? Ryanair?

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: WingedMigrator
Posted 2006-09-15 06:59:09 and read 10727 times.

Quoting Zvezda (Reply 8):
There are about 24 airports that are prepared or preparing for regular WhaleJet ops.

Airbus claimed in this ILA Berlin briefing from last May that they expected 66 airports to be Superjumbo-ready by 2010. See page 12.

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: Centrair
Posted 2006-09-15 07:05:20 and read 10718 times.

Quoting Af773atmsp (Thread starter):
MSP

That was a good joke...Can you imagine 1 A380 parked next to all those DC9s? What a scene!

The only way MSP will see an A380 is on a diversion.
NW won't buy them as a 744 replacement, their current fleet replacement seems to be going for lots of mid-sized planes with legs to add non-stop points over flying Japan or AMS. And the Cargo division does a lot of oversized items that will need the front loading system of a 747. I can see the 748F before an A380F. I have hard time imagining even a 748i in the NW fleet...(sounds crazy but I could see 773ER before a 748i).

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: Zvezda
Posted 2006-09-15 07:55:10 and read 10674 times.

Quoting CanadianNorth (Reply 12):
Sorry to be off topic, but what does ETOPS have to do with the A380?
(ETOPS = Extended Twin-engine OPerationS)

Sorry, I meant LROPS.

Quoting WingedMigrator (Reply 27):
Airbus claimed in this ILA Berlin briefing from last May that they expected 66 airports to be Superjumbo-ready by 2010.

Ready as an alternate, yes. For regular passenger operations, no. ONT is an example. It is being readied as an alternate to LAX.

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: TIMEAIR
Posted 2006-09-15 08:21:51 and read 10650 times.

my guess...either YYT or YHZ when it has a mechanical or medical emergency in it's first month of operation on trans atlantic flights.

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: Jeffry747
Posted 2006-09-15 10:43:00 and read 10560 times.

They are already working on quite a bit of expansion at SDF to get ready for the UPS A380s. Runway 17R/35L (10,000ft) was originally supposed to be stretched by 2,000 ft. 800 ft to the north and 1200 to the south. The 800ft extension is complete, but sources say that now the original 2000ft has now been changed to 3600 feet. In addition, they will be expanding taxiways and ramps. The big news at UPS though, is that they will be tearing down the Ashbottom hub building to make room for a hangar just for the A380.

From what what I understand, there is an FAA regulation stating that any runway in the US that handles the A380 must be 200ft wide. Supposedly SDF is trying to get an exemption from this rule, as the runways here are only 150ft wide.

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: SQNo1
Posted 2006-09-15 11:26:49 and read 10520 times.

Quoting Kaitak744 (Reply 26):
And LGW??? who is going to fly the A380 there? Ryanair?

Emirates To Dubai

Virgin Atlantic To Orlando

A couple of possibilities for you there!!

With Regards,
Alex.B

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: NewYorkCityBoi
Posted 2006-09-15 11:55:42 and read 10493 times.

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 10):
Minneapolis? Who's going to fly the A380 there? Nobody I can think of right now. Yes, you all get the 747 but I don't believe NW is going to get any A380s any time in the near future nor will anyone who is going to operate them fly them there.



Quoting Centrair (Reply 28):
That was a good joke...Can you imagine 1 A380 parked next to all those DC9s? What a scene!

My thought exactly when I first read this! MSP has only 1 flight a day to/from NRT by 744. Compare to LAX, LHR, SIN, JFK that they have 100s of 744 flight a day. I just dont see it!

And about ATL, I think the carrier that buy 380 wouldn't care if they cant send 380 to it. Small city like Atlanta or Minneapolis wouldnt see 380 fly to except if DL or NW have it themselves. ATL and MSP is busy because of the connections and being a hub of the big airlines, not because of the cities.

SEA is the same thing. I live in Seattle and I cant see any carrier want to send 380 here. All the inter flight rightnow aren't even 744 daily except BA.

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: 9MMAR
Posted 2006-09-15 12:24:26 and read 10461 times.

Kuala Lumpur International (KUL). One runway is currently being closed for A380 related works as well as some final finishing in the Satellite terminal which will handle the frame. It's almost complete and KUL can serves 3 (or was it 5) A380s at a time when the whole works completed.

This can be considered as an indicator that MH will proceed with its purchase of A380, maybe not all 6 frames as confirmed earlier.

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: Gr8Circle
Posted 2006-09-15 15:10:24 and read 10086 times.

Quoting Jean Leloup (Reply 21):
What's your basis for that? I haven't heard of any airlines planning to take A380 to either YYZ or YVR, making AF's service to YUL almost certainly the first to Canada. Not that that will necessarily happen next year, however...

The issue is not about any airline announcing services to YYZ.....sensible airport planning involves taking into consideration the future possibilities  smile 

Terminal 1 at YYZ will be capable of accomodating A380's on atleast 2-3 gates in the main hammerhead section of the terminal.....right at the far end....

The problem today is that everyone seems to be guessing that only so-and-so airports will receive 380 services....once the 380 goes into regular service, a lot of other airports will be receiving the flights and those who are preparing for it today are making the right moves....

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: Lazyshaun
Posted 2006-09-15 16:19:40 and read 9583 times.

Your all forgetting an even obvious one:

TLS

 Wink

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: MAH4546
Posted 2006-09-15 16:27:11 and read 9517 times.

Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 19):

YYZ and YVR will be the first two Canadian airports to see it, with possibly YUL when AF gets theirs. YYC will be a likely diversionary airport.

YUL will see it first, on Air France.

Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 19):
Additional US airports will likely include MIA, DFW, ORD and DEN.

MIA will see it with Air France and likely Lufthansa. ORD will see it eventually, but DEN? No.

Quoting SQNo1 (Reply 31):

Virgin Atlantic To Orlando

A couple of possibilities for you there!!

VS to Orlando is not a possibility. VS' A380s will all be Heathrow-based, not Gatwick-based.

[Edited 2006-09-15 16:33:28]

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: Bnamaxx
Posted 2006-09-15 16:40:20 and read 9386 times.

I usually support people who might start threads that have been repeated previously, but really, this horse is being beaten to death.

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: Gr8Circle
Posted 2006-09-15 17:09:21 and read 9145 times.

Quoting Lazyshaun (Reply 35):
Your all forgetting an even obvious one:

TLS


just out of curiousity....does the Airbus facility at TLS have a proper mock terminal with airbridges, to test how a 380 can load/unload pax...?

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: FXramper
Posted 2006-09-15 17:14:48 and read 9117 times.

Quoting STT757 (Reply 14):
How about EWR

Negative.

EWR serves primarily European destinations for overseas ops.

The A380 will be used solely for Pac/Asia operations from MEM. IND will get one flight daily.

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: Scouseflyer
Posted 2006-09-15 17:15:08 and read 9098 times.

Quoting EGTESkyGod (Reply 11):
I have a feeling we'll be seeing A380's at MAN before too long.

Hope so!!!

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: FoxXray
Posted 2006-09-15 17:21:03 and read 9044 times.

in France at least TLS (of course) LBG, CDG and LDE !

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: Lucky42
Posted 2006-09-15 17:34:38 and read 8961 times.

Quoting FXramper (Reply 39):
The A380 will be used solely for Pac/Asia operations from MEM. IND will get one flight daily.

Fxramper is correct MEM airport is doing all kinds of construction in anticipation of this a/c.

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: MarkATL
Posted 2006-09-15 17:51:31 and read 8808 times.

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 10):
if you can ever quit bitching about what city leader's family will make the most money off of the deal.

Not as bad since old Maynard left office (after getting the Chili's franchise in the A "spine"). Don't get me started on naming that place for him.

Quoting STT757 (Reply 14):
How about EWR, after MEM and IND EWR is one of FX's largest US hubs.

What about ONT (UPS) and OAK (FDX)?

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: HUYguy
Posted 2006-09-15 17:57:50 and read 8757 times.

Will the A380 be able to fit under Gatwick Bridge?

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: Bobski
Posted 2006-09-15 18:00:36 and read 8727 times.

Quoting CanadianNorth (Reply 12):
(ETOPS = Extended Twin-engine OPerationS)

Simplified and explained by Boeing as Engines Turn Or Passengers Swim Big grin

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: AsstChiefMark
Posted 2006-09-15 18:04:41 and read 8698 times.

Quoting Af773atmsp (Thread starter):
Heres a list of some of the airports that will have the A380.

LAX
NRT
SFO
MSP
LHR and LGW
SYD
CDG

What? No Duluth? My God, man! You're losing it!  faint 

Mark  Wink

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: Dw9115
Posted 2006-09-15 18:59:28 and read 8288 times.

Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 19):
Additional US airports will likely include MIA, DFW, ORD and DEN. SLC could see one on an emergency diversion (Virgin Atlantic has set down a 744 here on a few occasions).



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 36):
ORD will see it eventually, but DEN? No.

I have noticed some people have said ORD will get the A380 but the airport authority have said several times that they will not spend money on it. I think they will get them later down the road as will ATL and even SEA but not anytime in the near future in fact I bet it will be at least 10 years before scheduled service will come to any of those cities on a A380.

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: N136FE
Posted 2006-09-15 20:31:53 and read 7693 times.

As for Fedex, only three U.S. cities to deal with it initially...MEM, IND and ANC.

I have not heard that EWR is ready for it, but if that's the case, its possbile you might see JFK added to that list for any Euopean ops via an east coast city.

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: Jean Leloup
Posted 2006-09-15 20:39:44 and read 7633 times.

Quoting Gr8Circle (Reply 34):
The issue is not about any airline announcing services to YYZ.....sensible airport planning involves taking into consideration the future possibilities

Oh, I agree absolutely - of course YYZ will see the A380 soon enough, and it's important to plan for it. I was simply responding to the extremely uninformed user above, who seemed to be asserting that YYZ and YVR will be first simply because they're bigger, even though it has been quite clear for some time that AF to YUL will be the first A380 service to Canada, despite this wise remark to my post:

Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 24):
all serious bets are that YYZ and YVR will see it well before ! The center for Canada isn't around Quebec and YUL, nor does anyone outside of P.Q. even remotely think that!

Not a very useful geopolitical insight.

Why not tone down the rudeness and pretension when discussing something you knwo nothing about?

JL

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: Andz
Posted 2006-09-15 20:41:26 and read 7633 times.

Quoting Af773atmsp (Reply 6):
How much longer is the A380's wings to the 747's wings?

Here's my comparison again, along with the REAL big aircraft!

Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: JFKLGANYC
Posted 2006-09-15 20:44:16 and read 7611 times.

"How about EWR, after MEM and IND EWR is one of FX's largest US hubs."

EWR will never see it.

That's because the Port Authority of NY and NJ (the most efficiently run quasi-government agency in the US in your own words) said that EWR is not A380 capable or ready.

PJ

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: MIASkies
Posted 2006-09-15 20:58:51 and read 7481 times.

MIA will definetly see it from AF, AF has stated that already. As well as LH and VS has mentioned MIA as a very strong candidate for 380 service.

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: RDUDDJI
Posted 2006-09-15 21:11:47 and read 7403 times.

Sources tell me LH plans to upgrade LH419/418 (FRA-IAD) to A380 service too...so add IAD to the list.

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: MD80Nut
Posted 2006-09-15 21:53:21 and read 7133 times.

I've read that both Lufthansa and Air France plan to eventually fly A380s to MIA. Both seem to be doing well on the route with their 744s. I also seem to recall Virgin Atlantic was thinking about it, I've seen both their 744s and A346s here so it's plausible.

However, I'm sure MIA will see the A380 well after many others like LHR, SIN, SYD, LAX, CDG, etc., get them. I can't wait to see the A380 coming in for a landing over the Palmetto Expressway!  cloudnine 

Cheers, Ralph

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: RyanairCRL
Posted 2006-09-15 22:12:48 and read 6994 times.

how about IAH ? did Continental order any A380 ?

and in Europe : MAD, FCO ?

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: 4xRuv
Posted 2006-09-15 22:18:06 and read 6953 times.

Well, the new BKK airport Suvasomthing is A380 ready with 5 triple jetways gates...

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: Af773atmsp
Posted 2006-09-15 22:47:26 and read 6783 times.

I'm absolutely sure CO did not order any A380s. Although IAH would still have some A380s flying in from some airline.

Didn't LH say they might have service to MSP? Although even if they did LH's A380s might not fly into MSP.  Sad

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: Mdaddy
Posted 2006-09-15 22:53:19 and read 6753 times.

Quoting MD80Nut (Reply 54):
I've read that both Lufthansa and Air France plan to eventually fly A380s to MIA. Both seem to be doing well on the route with their 744s. I also seem to recall Virgin Atlantic was thinking about it, I've seen both their 744s and A346s here so it's plausible.

MIA's new concourse J is slated to have the first 380 gate. The concourse will open without the 380 gate. The project to install the appropriate gate will push 380 service into 2008 inaugural at best. Two additional 380 gates will be at concourse H and E. Only H is funded currently.

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: Ward86IND
Posted 2006-09-15 22:53:40 and read 6753 times.

Quoting SQNo1 (Reply 31):
They are already working on quite a bit of expansion at SDF to get ready for the UPS A380s.

What I sight that'll be at Kentucky Kingdom! Forget the rides! Just sit me on top of the Chang and let me chill for a few hours!

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: AsstChiefMark
Posted 2006-09-16 00:43:58 and read 6625 times.

Quoting Af773atmsp (Reply 6):
How much longer is the A380's wings to the 747's wings?


Wingspans:

741: 59.6 m
744: 64.4 m
748: 68.5 m
A380: 79.8 m

[Edited 2006-09-16 00:51:58]

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: LTBEWR
Posted 2006-09-16 01:16:48 and read 6586 times.

As much as I would like to see the A380 use EWR, I doubt it due to the proximity of JFK. Why split A380 ops over both JFK and EWR, as having all A380 ops at JFK for the NY City market would make sense as to consolidated mx support and traffic (EWR has serious traffic problems in bad weather). JFK also can offer longer runways and probably more available terminal and gate space vs. EWR.

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: MAH4546
Posted 2006-09-16 01:34:51 and read 6561 times.

Quoting MD80Nut (Reply 54):

However, I'm sure MIA will see the A380 well after many others like LHR, SIN, SYD, LAX, CDG, etc., get them. I can't wait to see the A380 coming in for a landing over the Palmetto Expressway!

Probably sooner than you think. Most definitley by late 2008. MIA is the perfect A380 market from Europe.

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: EVA777SEA
Posted 2006-09-16 02:35:21 and read 6525 times.

Quoting NewYorkCityBoi (Reply 32):
SEA is the same thing. I live in Seattle and I cant see any carrier want to send 380 here. All the inter flight rightnow aren't even 744 daily except BA.

BR is daily too, BA's SEA-LHR route does very well so whos to say if BA gets the A380 they wouldn't put it on that route? Of course SEA isn't willing to upgrade and BA probably won't get the A380.

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: Scaledesigns
Posted 2006-09-16 03:00:27 and read 6490 times.

LH says ORD will be one of the first cities they use the A380 on.It will replace
one of the 744s.The city and UA will upgrade as needed.Ups may also bring them in.They already use a 747 almost every day to ORD.(and Fedex may as they have a large facility at ORD)
I think the A380 will be a rare sight in the USA.LAX and JFK will see most,
along with the cargo airports SDF and MEM.

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: Threepoint
Posted 2006-09-16 03:00:31 and read 6490 times.

Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 24):
Look at all the big Asian & Middle Eastern carriers (Singapore, Emirates) that are first to get it. They only serve YVR and YYZ. YUL will likely see it from AF sooner or later, but all serious bets are that YYZ and YVR will see it well before ! The center for Canada isn't around Quebec and YUL, nor does anyone outside of P.Q. even remotely think that!

Regardless of where the centre of Canada is, YUL will see the A380 well before any other Canadian airport (Iqaluit notwithstanding). The Asian carriers that serve YYZ & YVR either have not ordered the A380 or feel the market is very well served by current aircraft assigned to those routes. Let's see SQ increase their YVR flights to a daily frequency before they upgrade the aircraft shall we?
While Toronto and Vancouver are both planning for A380 ops, neither are likely to see any in commercial service for many years yet.
You are either joking or misinformed.

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: Steeler83
Posted 2006-09-16 03:26:15 and read 6473 times.

Quoting Kaitak744 (Reply 25):
And LGW??? who is going to fly the A380 there? Ryanair?

HAHAHA! Thanks for the laugh man Big grin

With LH going with the A380, what are the chances of them using it on a FRA-PHL? just curious; not suggesting anything, besides this not being at all likely, considering how many ppl would actually fly on this thing if it were to go on the route, and how about the runways, taxiing, madness at PHL... Anyone agree, disagree?

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: WingedMigrator
Posted 2006-09-16 04:58:15 and read 6415 times.

Quoting Lazyshaun (Reply 35):
Your all forgetting an even obvious one:

TLS

I disagree. TLS is not "A380 ready" in the same sense as the few dozen airports which will receive the A380 in commercial service.

Quoting Andz (Reply 50):
Here's my comparison again, along with the REAL big aircraft!

Andz, your diagram is grossly out of scale. You should delete it and replace it with a nice, new, properly scaled version from Wikipedia.

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: Andz
Posted 2006-09-16 07:13:45 and read 6354 times.

yeah that is a nice one, thanks.

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: MSPGUY
Posted 2006-09-16 07:30:32 and read 6339 times.

so, dumb question!!!! how does the A340-600(or other models) wing span compare with the rest?

Not trying to hijack the tread, just curious

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: NewYorkCityBoi
Posted 2006-09-16 09:53:15 and read 6293 times.

Quoting EVA777SEA (Reply 63):
BR is daily too, BA's SEA-LHR route does very well so whos to say if BA gets the A380 they wouldn't put it on that route? Of course SEA isn't willing to upgrade and BA probably won't get the A380.

SEA-LHR does well compare to inter flight out of SEA, but look at the route of BA, SEA means nothing to BA. Compare the flight out of LHR, LGW, they go to ORD, JFK, EWR, LAX, SFO,IAD, PHL, YYZ, NRT, JNB, SIN, SYD.. etc much more! Seattle is a very small town, I just dont see it in at least 10 year to come. And BA hasnt even order 380. I wish they order 748

By the way the BR flight to SEA is by 74E (combi) and go on to EWR. There are not enough passenger to just come to SEA.

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: KLMCedric
Posted 2006-09-16 10:50:09 and read 6261 times.

AMS is A380 ready, and expects MH to fly them there.

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: ANCFlyer
Posted 2006-09-16 10:59:13 and read 6252 times.

Quoting Jsposaune (Reply 9):
Don't forget MEM and IND, for FedEx

And ANC . . . ANC is 380 ready . . .

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: Beaucaire
Posted 2006-09-16 11:06:04 and read 6244 times.

Add GRU,MUC,MAN,IST,CAI,NCE,JED,HAM,...all possible candidates to see if not sheduled at least sporadic A380's visiting for charter,technicals or ethnic traffic.

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: 4xRuv
Posted 2006-09-16 12:29:49 and read 6202 times.

What about divert airports? shouldn't there be enough air stripes around the world that could accommodate the A380 in case of a diversion BEFORE it starts rev-operation? for example, BOS in case JFK is closed....

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: Zvezda
Posted 2006-09-16 12:33:34 and read 6196 times.

Quoting KLMCedric (Reply 71):
AMS is A380 ready, and expects MH to fly them there.

MH are in tailspin.

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: EVA777SEA
Posted 2006-09-16 16:07:01 and read 6114 times.

Quoting NewYorkCityBoi (Reply 70):
By the way the BR flight to SEA is by 74E (combi) and go on to EWR. There are not enough passenger to just come to SEA.

it only continues to EWR 4 times weekly? And BTW, when did 3.8 million become a "very small town"?

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: Scaledesigns
Posted 2006-09-16 16:40:46 and read 6065 times.

Compared to the other cities planning on getting the A380,it is small.Seattle
is a fine city with alot of great a/c movements,but they are all mainly Boeings.

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: NewYorkCityBoi
Posted 2006-09-17 14:20:04 and read 5812 times.

Quoting EVA777SEA (Reply 76):
"very small town"?

hahaha.... If you had lived in New York or cities in Asia before, then Seattle is very very small. Don't forget that just China and India take half population of the world already. We are talking about 3000+ millions! A380 are made for Asia! or some flight related to Asian cities, LHR, JFK and LAX.

When you talk about Seattle has 3.8 millions, that includes Bellvue, Renton, Redmond, Lynwood, up to Everett etc.... (but I read from National Geographic, they said only 2 Millions) but just the tiny island of Manhattan has more than 7 millions.

Anyway, many of my friends here work for Boeing, so I support the beautiful B747-8

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: EVA777SEA
Posted 2006-09-17 17:28:44 and read 5728 times.

Quoting NewYorkCityBoi (Reply 78):
When you talk about Seattle has 3.8 millions, that includes Bellvue, Renton, Redmond, Lynwood, up to Everett etc.... (but I read from National Geographic, they said only 2 Millions) but just the tiny island of Manhattan has more than 7 millions.

While I know some cities in asia are huge, the US census says the Seattle metro area has 3.8 million so i'm going to take their word over National Geographic. And for future reference, Manhattan only has 1.5 million people living on it, NYC has about 8.2 million living in it.

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: Af773atmsp
Posted 2006-09-18 00:44:45 and read 5601 times.

I've worried that the A380 will not fit on the taxiway next to concourse G at MSP. Although the 747s can fit. I'm going to check and see if the A380 will fit on that taxiway.

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: NewYorkCityBoi
Posted 2006-09-18 02:29:35 and read 5556 times.

Quoting EVA777SEA (Reply 79):
Manhattan only has 1.5 million people living on it

What source do you get this from? There's no way Manhattan has only 1.5 million people live in it. It's being said in many TV shows and documentary film that Manhattan has about 7 Millions live in it (not including Brooklyn, Queen, Bronx, etc. and not including tourist from around the world everyday). Everybody knows NYC metro is the biggest city in the US , the 2nd is LA, and 3rd is Chicago. Manhattan is not like downtown in many cities where it's dead at night becuz people dont live in it.

My source is National Geographic Atlas. The collected data is from 2001. NYC metro (include brooklyn, bronx, queen, staten island, newark) has 16,732,000 population, not including tourists. NG cant put unreliable data into the Atlas book???

We have 10 flights a week from SEA to London, but new york has 200+ flights a week to London.

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: EVA777SEA
Posted 2006-09-18 03:06:27 and read 5516 times.

Quoting NewYorkCityBoi (Reply 81):
My source is National Geographic Atlas. The collected data is from 2001. NYC metro (include brooklyn, bronx, queen, staten island, newark) has 16,732,000 population, not including tourists. NG cant put unreliable data into the Atlas book???

I'm taking US census over national geographic...

Manhattan has 1.6 million people living in it
Brooklyn has 2.5 million people living in it
The Bronx has 1.4 million people living in it
Queens has 2.24 million people living in it
Saten Island has almost 500,000 people living on it

add these all together and you get 8.3 million. There are 8.3 million people living in NYC itself. The metro area has between 16 and 21 million people in it depending on what boundries you use. Just so you know, brooklyn, the bronx, queens, manhattan, and staten island MAKE UP the city itself and are not the metro area. They are the 5 boroughs of NYC, not the metro area.

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: LipeGIG
Posted 2006-09-18 03:13:51 and read 5509 times.

Don't know for regular. But A380 will visit GRU, GIG and EZE this year.

Felipe

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: VHVXB
Posted 2006-09-18 03:19:23 and read 5491 times.

Quoting Gemuser (Reply 7):
I supect AKL, CHC, BNE & PER

I think BNE already has the ability to handle the A380 in terms of runways and taxiways but I'm not sure about the gates though. Work is currently being done at SYD as well

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: Ordryan28
Posted 2006-09-18 03:23:02 and read 5490 times.

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 10):

Minneapolis? Who's going to fly the A380 there?

lol good question

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 36):
ORD will see it eventually

yep...LH for sure, hopefully a cargo carrier or two...

Quoting Scaledesigns (Reply 64):
Scaledesigns

 bigthumbsup 

-Ryan

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: Af773atmsp
Posted 2006-09-18 04:16:18 and read 5456 times.

I hope to see the A380 scream over my house. Although many people are thinking what airline would have there A380s fly to MSP. MSP to me is not like a small airport. FedEx and UPS will have some of there A380s fly to MSP. If you want see that fact order a Airbus A380 Super Jumbo of the 21st Century book. It does say that MSP will be one of the second phase (large cargo hub) airports.

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: Af773atmsp
Posted 2006-09-18 04:18:31 and read 5449 times.

I'm not angry at anyone who thinks that no airline will have there A380s fly to MSP. I'm just showing that the A380 will fly to MSP.

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: Zvezda
Posted 2006-09-18 04:49:06 and read 5427 times.

Quoting EVA777SEA (Reply 82):

I'm taking US census over national geographic...

Very few of the people who actually live in NYC officially live in NYC because the city imposes an income tax on top of the income taxes of the federal and state governments. Most NYC residents officially live somewhere else.

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: NewYorkCityBoi
Posted 2006-09-18 06:42:37 and read 5374 times.

Quoting Zvezda (Reply 88):
Very few of the people who actually live in NYC officially live in NYC because the city imposes an income tax on top of the income taxes of the federal and state governments. Most NYC residents officially live somewhere else.

Oh Yeah, good point! I forgot about that!

Talking about the city with about the same size as Seattle: Atlanta
I think AF may fly A380 to ATL for people to connect DL to destinations in the south.

Topic: RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now
Username: Zvezda
Posted 2006-09-18 06:56:15 and read 5363 times.

Quoting NewYorkCityBoi (Reply 89):
Oh Yeah, good point!

Thank you for the kind words!


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