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Topic: Eastern's Stretch DC8-61 And 63's
Username: 717-200
Posted 2006-09-12 01:00:18 and read 5565 times.

Having just bought the new Minicraft EA DC8-63 kit, I was wondering which routes and when EA had them in their fleet.



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Topic: RE: Eastern's Stretch DC8-61 And 63's
Username: Cody
Posted 2006-09-12 01:03:36 and read 5561 times.

They did IAD-MEX and BWI to Bermuda, those I am sure of.

Topic: RE: Eastern's Stretch DC8-61 And 63's
Username: Jonno
Posted 2006-09-12 01:49:58 and read 5508 times.

My first flight was JFK - Houston Hobby in one of these birds. When flying was enjoyable -- ah!

Topic: RE: Eastern's Stretch DC8-61 And 63's
Username: Jetjack74
Posted 2006-09-12 02:08:01 and read 5482 times.

Quoting 717-200 (Thread starter):
I was wondering which routes and when EA had them in their fleet

The stretch DC8's, -61's, and 63CF's were purchased for, and used primarily on the DOD passenger and cargo charters to FRA, RMS and DNA from ATL, JFK, RIV, and SBD during the 1970's. All were sold off by 1978

Topic: RE: Eastern's Stretch DC8-61 And 63's
Username: LGA777
Posted 2006-09-12 06:56:35 and read 5343 times.

I belive prior to the arrival of the leased Pan Am 747's and later EA's own L-1011's they flew many of the JFK-SJU and JFK-MIA flights, among others.

Regards

LGA777

Topic: RE: Eastern's Stretch DC8-61 And 63's
Username: Yyz717
Posted 2006-09-12 07:22:28 and read 5317 times.

The EA DC-8-61/63 were also common in YYZ. Operating the YYZ-MIA route I presume.

Topic: RE: Eastern's Stretch DC8-61 And 63's
Username: Ordpark
Posted 2006-09-12 07:27:23 and read 5306 times.

They operated pretty much on every heavy traffic route EA had...JFK/EWR to Fla and SJU...saw them in BOS, ORD...the -63's, by the way, were bought as a hedge in case EA was a winner in the Trans-Pacific route cases of the '60's and 70's...(they lost)

Topic: RE: Eastern's Stretch DC8-61 And 63's
Username: SierraAir
Posted 2006-09-12 21:58:27 and read 5056 times.

Quoting Ordpark (Reply 6):
the -63's, by the way, were bought as a hedge in case EA was a winner in the Trans-Pacific route cases of the '60's and 70's...(they lost)

Here's the story of the DC-8-63 from what I remember....

Eastern purchased the -63 because the CAB ruled that Eastern be awarded Pacific routes. Deliveries of the 6 models began in February, 1969.

Later though, President Lyndon Johnson, a Texan, overruled the CAB and gave the Pacific routes to Texas based American and Braniff. Eastern got rid of the aircraft after it became apparent that they had been robbed and there was no appeal (he was the President after all). The last aircraft left the fleet in February, 1974.

Brian

Topic: RE: Eastern's Stretch DC8-61 And 63's
Username: Stirling
Posted 2006-09-12 22:29:31 and read 5027 times.

Quoting SierraAir (Reply 7):
Later though, President Lyndon Johnson, a Texan, overruled the CAB and gave the Pacific routes to Texas based American and Braniff.

American was not Texas based until 1979.

Topic: RE: Eastern's Stretch DC8-61 And 63's
Username: Junction
Posted 2006-09-12 23:31:00 and read 4952 times.

Quoting SierraAir (Reply 7):
Here's the story of the DC-8-63 from what I remember....

That's exactly what I remember reading as well. They were for non-existent EA Pacific routes - except that it was only BN that got the routes from CAB, which is where the whole "president from TX" thing comes into play. I don't think AA was involved. It seems pretty weird to me that EA went ahead and got them when the routes were not guaranteed.

Topic: RE: Eastern's Stretch DC8-61 And 63's
Username: CRJ900
Posted 2006-09-12 23:34:40 and read 4941 times.

How many seats did Eastern have in their DC8-61/63?

Topic: RE: Eastern's Stretch DC8-61 And 63's
Username: L1011
Posted 2006-09-13 01:36:40 and read 4812 times.

One unusual routing for Eastern's stretch DC-8s was ATL-RIC-EWR. This only lasted for a short time. The time I took this flight they substituted N8612, which was a DC-8-21. I was disappointed, because I had been on Eastern's DC-8-21s before, but never on a -61 or -63.

Bob Bradley
Richmond, VA

Topic: RE: Eastern's Stretch DC8-61 And 63's
Username: Jonno
Posted 2006-09-13 04:37:19 and read 4700 times.

How did these aircraft not suffer from metal fatigue due to a high ratio of turnarounds/landings? I never heard of one of them landing and breaking in two.

Topic: RE: Eastern's Stretch DC8-61 And 63's
Username: BostonGuy
Posted 2006-09-13 05:31:36 and read 4661 times.

I remember them regularly on the MCO - ATL route.

As I recall, they carried around 198 passengers.

Topic: RE: Eastern's Stretch DC8-61 And 63's
Username: Dutchjet
Posted 2006-09-13 19:05:50 and read 4519 times.

The DC-8-61s were regular visitors to JFK......several Strech 8s would overnight at JFK and fly out to Florida cities and San Juan in the morning. I happily remember flying on a DC8-61 from JFK to MIA as a youngster, I still remember that we had a bulkhead seat that gave me lots of room to play on the floor in the space in front of our seats.....and even then thinking, what a long airplane!!

Topic: RE: Eastern's Stretch DC8-61 And 63's
Username: SANFan
Posted 2006-09-13 21:49:20 and read 4434 times.

I think those Stretch-8s were the most beautiful birds that have ever graced the jet-age. I didn't see EA's very much (not in SAN anyway) but UA and DL (and NA, I believe?) flew them in and out of SAN for quite a few years.

There was nothing like sitting at the end of runway 27 (the spotting paradise off Pacific Highway) and watching a "D8S" (in OAG-speak) pass by on the taxiway (it seemed to take several minutes to do so), swing that long tail around and tear down the runway, always managing to lift off without scraping it's butt on the slab! Beautiful memories...

UA flew them from SAN to HNL, ORD, LAX, maybe the East Coast on occasion, and to SFO now and then. DL used them, I believe, only to Dallas and LA, and maybe PHX. NA flew 8s to HOU and maybe MSY (and of course, LAX) and I'm quite sure they had some Stretches in the mix for a while as well.

bb

Topic: RE: Eastern's Stretch DC8-61 And 63's
Username: L1011
Posted 2006-09-13 23:19:15 and read 4384 times.

SANFan:

Yes, UA did use them on the east coast. UA 59, a DC-8-61, used to fly from RIC-IAD-LAX-SFO. It must have been cheaper for it to overnight in RIC than in IAD.

Bob Bradley
Richmond, VA

Topic: RE: Eastern's Stretch DC8-61 And 63's
Username: Drewwright
Posted 2006-09-14 00:52:05 and read 4329 times.

I digress, but does anybody think the EMB-195 looks alot like the DC-8 Super 60? What a pair of sexy planes!

Drew

Topic: RE: Eastern's Stretch DC8-61 And 63's
Username: Bnamaxx
Posted 2006-09-14 01:36:11 and read 4291 times.

I saw one at STL in the early 70's, later discovered it was doing the SEA/PDX run.

Topic: RE: Eastern's Stretch DC8-61 And 63's
Username: BHMNONREV
Posted 2006-09-14 02:32:20 and read 4262 times.

Quoting Bnamaxx (Reply 18):
I saw one at STL in the early 70's, later discovered it was doing the SEA/PDX run.

EA used to sub the Super 8 on the ATL-STL-SEA-PDX runs of the early 70's, but it was a rare sight at STL nonetheless. This flight was normally operated with a 727-200, and later the L-1011.

Topic: RE: Eastern's Stretch DC8-61 And 63's
Username: SANFan
Posted 2006-09-14 02:40:46 and read 4252 times.

Quoting L1011 (Reply 16):
SANFan:
Yes, UA did use them on the east coast. UA 59, a DC-8-61, used to fly from RIC-IAD-LAX-SFO. It must have been cheaper for it to overnight in RIC than in IAD.

Bob (L1011), to clarify, I was referring to UA flying the Stretch 8 from SAN to the East Coast; I don't remember all the routes they flew them on. I'll have to go visit my old timetables collection....

Of course back in those days, short tag-ons were done with any equipment, including wide-bodies, so it wasn't unusual to see D8Ss, D10s or even 747s flying RIC-IAD, PDX-SEA, or SAN-LAX (on any cx.)

bb

Topic: RE: Eastern's Stretch DC8-61 And 63's
Username: Teixeim
Posted 2006-09-18 15:38:56 and read 4058 times.

I do remember the UA stretch DC-8s at RIC as a kid back in the late 70s and very early 80s. The only EA aircraft I remember at RIC were DC-9-10/20/30s and 727-100/200 aircraft.

Sure do miss seeing the pax apron full of 727s. Now they're over on the cargo apron as freighters.

At RIC we still get the UPS DC-8s and I remember the Burlington DC-8s sitting around all day awaiting the next run not so long ago.

Topic: RE: Eastern's Stretch DC8-61 And 63's
Username: N1120A
Posted 2006-09-18 15:41:50 and read 4058 times.

Quoting L1011 (Reply 16):
Yes, UA did use them on the east coast. UA 59, a DC-8-61, used to fly from RIC-IAD-LAX-SFO. It must have been cheaper for it to overnight in RIC than in IAD.

Either that or first and last flight high density commuters, sort of like the single RJ that flies ONT-LAX-ONT.


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