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Topic: A380 @ JFK!
Username: JAL777
Posted 2007-03-19 19:40:38 and read 27998 times.

Thought I'd share these with everyone.  Smile


The ducks and I patiently await. For some reason, it spent about 20 minutes in a holding pattern and then they did a runway check for it.


And here it is!!!














As you can see, I suck at photography but it was worth the 40 minute drive.  Smile

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: Tak
Posted 2007-03-19 19:45:43 and read 27971 times.

Very nice pictures!!! A friend of mine went to see the plane arrive and she said it looked massive. She said it was a lot of fun. I can't wait to see her pictures.

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: RJpieces
Posted 2007-03-19 19:47:36 and read 27933 times.

Looks like you were really close to where I was.

For those who weren't there, a ton of cars pulled to the side of Rockaway Blvd right under the threshold of 22L. After monitoring 125.7for about 20 minutes, the A380 was cleared to begin the 22L approach. As it got close, traffic on Rockaway Blvd pretty much came to a standstill. And of course it was amazing as it passed right over us.

Afterwards, there was some press conference in T1 which I caught the end of. Lots of PA officials walking around...And after that, Mir and I noticed that the 380 was being towed. So we drove to a remote spot across from the old Pan Am hangar and sure enough the A380 arrived there in a few minutes.

I met some nice people while waiting for it to land and in Terminal 1, but didn't catch if any of you were A.net members. So if anyone here reads this and was there please drop me a message!

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: Flyorski
Posted 2007-03-19 19:47:40 and read 27925 times.

Thanks for the pictures! You can really see how large it is coming over the trees! Nice effect, with the ducks  Silly

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: B6JFKH81
Posted 2007-03-19 19:47:56 and read 27937 times.

VERY nice pics!! They are better than mine and I was on the AOA at JFK LOL!

When I saw it going base to final, it looked huge. All the way through final it looked huge. Then when it was about to touch down I was looking at it from the side...and it seemed small, stubby almost. A couple of folks commented that it looked like a double decker A310 with 4 engines because it was stubby looking. There was too much traffic at T1 to get close and personal. I have a feeling that I just am not able to appreciate the size until I am right next to the thing.

I was impressed at the jetbridge setup they had at T1 gate 1 for the A380. Very smart the way they did that!

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: B6MoneyGuyJFK
Posted 2007-03-19 19:50:56 and read 27942 times.

One more taken from inside JFK

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Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: SLCUT2777
Posted 2007-03-19 19:52:30 and read 27805 times.

Quoting Tak (Reply 1):
Very nice pictures!!! A friend of mine went to see the plane arrive and she said it looked massive. She said it was a lot of fun. I can't wait to see her pictures.

Hopefully a few others who are at JFK or later on at ORD or LAX will also contribute some shots to this thread. Great to see the A380 make a stop in the good old U.S.A. Hopefully now Boeing will get the first 787 Dreamliner out the door at PAE for testing and give us a similar show sooner or later.

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: Werdywerd
Posted 2007-03-19 19:54:21 and read 27788 times.

NICE PICS!!!

Upclose pictures and video I posted here:

Tracking A380 Today (by Vegas005 Mar 19 2007 in Civil Aviation)

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: RJpieces
Posted 2007-03-19 19:58:32 and read 27683 times.

Quoting B6JFKH81 (Reply 4):
I was impressed at the jetbridge setup they had at T1 gate 1 for the A380. Very smart the way they did that!

How did they do it? I wasn't able to see the setup from where I was in T1.

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: Spacecadet
Posted 2007-03-19 19:58:35 and read 27688 times.

Just out of curiosity, where is this thing parked? Is it visible from in and around JFK right now? When's it leaving?

Wondering if it's worth making a trip after work; I live not far from the airport.

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: Werdywerd
Posted 2007-03-19 20:00:43 and read 27642 times.

Terminal 1 Gate 1 at JFK.

Awesome jet bridge setup, too bad i didn't get pics

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: RJpieces
Posted 2007-03-19 20:05:13 and read 27556 times.

Quoting Spacecadet (Reply 9):
, where is this thing parked?

Behind the old Pan Am Hangar...If you drive through the backroads of JFK, you can get a great view of it.

Quoting Werdywerd (Reply 10):
Terminal 1 Gate 1 at JFK.

It was towed out about 1 1/2 hours after arrival.

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: Tristarfreak
Posted 2007-03-19 20:05:47 and read 27549 times.

very nice hope to see them posted soon!!!

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: LipeGIG
Posted 2007-03-19 20:06:55 and read 27511 times.

Amazing pictures, thanks for share with us !

Felipe

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: Tristarfreak
Posted 2007-03-19 20:08:28 and read 27475 times.

Quoting Tristarfreak (Reply 12):



Quoting JAL777 (Thread starter):
For some reason, it spent about 20 minutes in a holding pattern and then they did a runway check for it.

I forgot to mention is that the reason it waited for 20min is that the pilot did not want to land until 12:15 so they but it in a holding pattern until then

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: RJpieces
Posted 2007-03-19 20:11:15 and read 27487 times.

This is where it is parked...I circled the spot in red. If you drive around the long-term parking lot, there is a great spot where you can see it from.

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Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: B6JFKH81
Posted 2007-03-19 20:26:30 and read 27269 times.

Quoting RJpieces (Reply 8):
How did they do it? I wasn't able to see the setup from where I was in T1.

I don't know how the gate was before the A380 preparation project, but it now looks like a hallway extends from the terminal. If you were walking down that hallway to get on the plane, on the left side is a jetbridge that leads to the lower level. If you walked to the end of the hallway, you would go into a secondary jetbridge that takes you to the second level. So, they have 2 separate jetbridges coming out of one gate. Sorry, but my pics did not come out all too well, hopefully some one will have snapped a shot while it was at the gate.

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: RICARIZA
Posted 2007-03-19 20:33:23 and read 27201 times.

GREAT PICS! I wanted to see this the whole morning.. THANKS!!

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: OA260
Posted 2007-03-19 20:58:52 and read 27002 times.

Quoting JAL777 (Thread starter):
As you can see, I suck at photography but it was worth the 40 minute drive.

Not at all the photos are amazing especially the 7th and 8th one. I would have loved to be there. Keep the pics comming guys.

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: AvObserver
Posted 2007-03-19 21:21:20 and read 26826 times.

Quoting JAL777 (Thread starter):
As you can see, I suck at photography but it was worth the 40 minute drive.

I second NOT AT ALL! These are terrific shots. But that I work today, I'd been out there, as well. Just because I'm somewhat pessimistic about the A380's ultimate sales potential doesn't mean I don't think it's one amazing BIG Bird!  bigthumbsup 

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: Mortyman
Posted 2007-03-19 21:30:09 and read 26749 times.

Mr. Fazio, the chief operating officer of the terminal 4 JFK:

And even though Mr. Fazio has seen planes of many sizes and shapes, he is still impressed with the massive scale of the A380.

“Wait until it flies over Manhattan,” he said. “It will block out the sun.”


Comment in an article in New York Times today  Smile



http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/03/19/business/plane600.jpg

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: Alibo5NGN
Posted 2007-03-19 21:55:24 and read 26553 times.

I left home at 10am for what I thought was a routine 1 hour 30 minute drive from Boonton New Jersey to JFK via George Washington Bridge. I got stuck in traffic about 2 miles from George Washington Bridge, for about 1 hour and had to turn arround at Englewood NJ and drove south, all the way to Staten Island to take the Verrazzano Narrows Bridge.

Needless to say, I missed the landing but I ended up with excellent close up shots. When I eventually got to JFK at 1pm, The Airbus was conveniently parked at Terminal 1, at the first air bridge close to the roadway leading to the departures area.

I found some people attempting to take shots through the fence. I tried a few shots but my Nikkor Lens were too big and the shots had the shadows of the fence links on them. It was then that I spied a couple of guys on a nearby access bridge leading to Terminal 1 departures.

I went up the bridge and found an excellent vantage point above the fence and airport equipment and took pictures of the gorgeous aircraft. As a great bonus, 20 minutes after I got there, the Airbus was pushed back presenting excellent opportunities for close up shots. It was then towed out of sight towards a hangar.

It was worth missing a day at work and it made the hassles getting to JFK worthwhile. I met 2 guys from Anet, but they were too busy to chat.

Ken.

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: Af773atmsp
Posted 2007-03-19 22:21:54 and read 26361 times.

Does NBC news have a video of the A380 landing at JFK? Nice pictures! Keep the pictures coming.

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: Comorin
Posted 2007-03-19 22:24:27 and read 26319 times.

Hi,

I was there at T1's food court today - wished I could've bumped into a few a.netters! It was a magnificent sight as the 380 approached gate 1 under clear skies.

I was struck by the looks of the plane - it does look a a huge luxury bus of the skies! Airbus's mission appears precisely that, - not to build Dreamliners and so on, but to continue the legacy of the A300 - a 'Volksflugzueg".

Managed to get into the press event in LH's lounge (?) and got to hear speeches from one and all, including the pilots - Capt Juergen Raps, and of course, Mr. Leahy.

Leahy speaks well, and started his speech by remarking that he was a cab driver in the 70's at JFK when the first 747s were coming in, so this was an important moment for him. 747 for 20th Century, and 380 for the 21st.

Also heard a LH bigwig say that the A380 was 30% quieter than a 747 on landing.

Most striking was the line up of the cabin crew up on the balcony as a backdrop - reminded me of a Rockettes line up - with FAs like that, sign me up for the next flight!


Overall a fun day! Wish I had a pass to go see the inside of the plane at 5.30 pm today - hope some of you are and will share pics.

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: Jycarlisle
Posted 2007-03-19 22:32:20 and read 26221 times.

What a beautiful bird ... one of the things I will miss dearly about NY is JFK.

Great photos, JAL, and thanks for sharing.

Cheers,
Jeremy Carlisle, who had to work today on an emergency staffing call.

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: KLM672
Posted 2007-03-19 22:33:53 and read 26226 times.

I am off to JFK tomorrow, does anyone know if it will still be there?

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: SafetyDude
Posted 2007-03-19 22:53:46 and read 28270 times.

JAL777, you and I were at the some spot.

Some pics:


Anti-collision light




Hmm...UPS logo still on there


Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: ScrubbsYWG
Posted 2007-03-20 00:07:32 and read 27287 times.

i know that there are many here that are good at identifying flying objects, but am i correct in thinking those are actually canadian geese?

great pictures, and a great day for aviation!

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: JAL777
Posted 2007-03-20 00:22:03 and read 27191 times.

Quoting ScrubbsYWG (Reply 27):
but am i correct in thinking those are actually canadian geese?

No. Those are New Yorkers. Big grin

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: ScrubbsYWG
Posted 2007-03-20 00:27:18 and read 27075 times.

maybe they flew in for the bus?

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: Ebs757
Posted 2007-03-20 00:41:53 and read 26980 times.

great pictures guys! I will be awaiting the behemoth at O'Hare tomorrow, will take shots.

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: LHUSA
Posted 2007-03-20 00:44:45 and read 26976 times.

Quoting JAL777 (Thread starter):
For some reason, it spent about 20 minutes in a holding pattern

Don't know if this was posted on ready on this thread, but the A380 actually did a fly-over of LH's US headquarters in East Meadow, NY for all of the employees that couldn't make it out to JFK. They were all standing on the roof to see the plane.

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: Ebs757
Posted 2007-03-20 00:48:46 and read 26889 times.

Quoting LHUSA (Reply 31):

Don't know if this was posted on ready on this thread, but the A380 actually did a fly-over of LH's US headquarters in East Meadow, NY for all of the employees that couldn't make it out to JFK. They were all standing on the roof to see the plane.

Do you think they will something of this type in Chicago tomorrow?

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: FA4B6
Posted 2007-03-20 00:59:19 and read 26805 times.

I was out on the AOA too, watched it land, then got driven over to T1 and watched it go to gate. Beautiful, quiet bird. Absolutly amazing. I didnt want to leave!

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: VEEREF
Posted 2007-03-20 01:20:18 and read 27333 times.

I was in perfect position to get some pics as it left FRA this morning as I was flying on DL from FRA- CVG, but right as it pushed back the gate agents flushed everyone out of the gate area so they could do passport checks. A damn shame as the DL gates are directly abeam the threshold of 25R!  Angry

[Edited 2007-03-20 01:21:07]

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: ChrisNH
Posted 2007-03-20 01:31:52 and read 26611 times.

If someone from the media ever tweaks you for calling those geese 'ducks,' they'd better shut their pie holes. This is the same media that said the A380 flew faster than the speed of sound.

Dumb quacks.

Those were FABULOUS pictures. Up here in Nashua, NH I was thinking of looking out my office window to see if I could see the jet contrailing overhead. But I think it flew well to the east of us, perhaps out over the ocean as it came down the coast of Maine.

Chris in NH

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: Mirrodie
Posted 2007-03-20 02:16:13 and read 26383 times.

I did manage to see her and got a few shots. It was amazing to see the fanfare that surrounded the arrival!

The shots I took today are still in the screening queue here. However, I did put a few up, currently at Jetphotos. Thank goodness the weather was near perfect!

[Edited 2007-03-20 02:18:02]

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: AirTran737
Posted 2007-03-20 02:35:37 and read 26368 times.

Here's the arrival on JFK ground http://archive-server.liveatc.net/kj...KJFK-Del-Gnd-Mar-19-2007-1600Z.mp3 the controller says "it's big, round and fat". Quite funny actually. The ground controllers were quite helpful to the other airlines who wanted a peek at the Whale.

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: CaptinTuT
Posted 2007-03-20 02:57:18 and read 26118 times.

Quoting Mirrodie (Reply 36):

It's Huge, i just came back from The airport, its parked at the old PANAM Hanger, they have some lights around the plane but couldn't find a place to take any shots. hope it will still be there tomorrow maybe i can get some.

Quoting AirTran737 (Reply 37):

Thanks for the link, it was really Nice, that was a nice controller. good work.

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: Pilotdude09
Posted 2007-03-20 03:24:33 and read 25972 times.

Quoting AirTran737 (Reply 37):
Here's the arrival on JFK ground http://archive-server.liveatc.net/kj...KJFK-Del-Gnd-Mar-19-2007-1600Z.mp3 the controller says "it's big, round and fat". Quite funny actually. The ground controllers were quite helpful to the other airlines who wanted a peek at the Whale.

What an awesome controller, let everyone who asked wait and see it land  Smile Really helpfull, thats what pilots and controllers are meant to be like lol

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: PanAm92
Posted 2007-03-20 03:30:15 and read 25905 times.

Well I had to take this day off and finally see this massive plane. It is a beautiful plane on a beautiful afternoon. Lots of people welcomed her along the roads.

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: Af773atmsp
Posted 2007-03-20 03:36:24 and read 25876 times.

I just watched a video on NBC website. Was the A380 that went to LAX from Australia or France. I was watching NBC nightly news and they said the A380 going to LAX was from France, on the website they said it was from Australia. If it was from France, I wonder if it went over Minnesota. I was looking at contrails for a little bit.

[Edited 2007-03-20 03:42:04]

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: RJpieces
Posted 2007-03-20 03:57:22 and read 25772 times.

Quoting Mirrodie (Reply 36):
Thank goodness the weather was near perfect!

Except the temperature!  Smile

Quoting AirTran737 (Reply 37):
The ground controllers were quite helpful to the other airlines who wanted a peek at the Whale.

I wonder if David Neeleman would be happy with the B6 pilots who taxied around JFK the long way just to get a glance at the A380 parked at T1 haha...

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: AirTran737
Posted 2007-03-20 04:03:46 and read 25702 times.

Quoting RJpieces (Reply 43):
I wonder if David Neeleman would be happy with the B6 pilots who taxied around JFK the long way just to get a glance at the A380 parked at T1 haha

They're going to lose money this quarter anyway, what's a little more?

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: Mir
Posted 2007-03-20 04:11:45 and read 26253 times.

Quoting AirTran737 (Reply 37):
The ground controllers were quite helpful to the other airlines who wanted a peek at the Whale.

On the next archive, ground offered to send a JetBlue flight around the terminals the long way so that they could see the 380. And they accepted.   

EDIT: RJPieces beat me to it with that one. And about the weather, stop whining! I've spent the year in Florida and I'm still less affected by cold than you are.  Smile

-Mir

[Edited 2007-03-20 04:14:29]

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: GothamSpotter
Posted 2007-03-20 04:30:01 and read 25666 times.

Lots of great shots here. (NYCAviation.com)

Meetup of NYC area spotters for Wednesday's media event (two takeoffs and two landings) is being planned here. (NYCAviation.com)

Video of the landing from the ground with unedited audio, lets you hear how quiet those giant engines are, even with the reversers on, is here. (Popular Mechanics)

Video of the landing from a helicopter, shows the pilot landing just a few feet past the piano keys, is here. (WCBS-TV)

[Edited 2007-03-20 04:31:51]

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: PM
Posted 2007-03-20 04:43:51 and read 25486 times.

Quoting JAL777 (Thread starter):
The ducks and I patiently await.

I'm glad you're better at plane spotting than ornithology because...

Quoting ScrubbsYWG (Reply 27):
am i correct in thinking those are actually canadian geese?

 checkmark 

No matter, great photos of the A380!

Quoting ContinentalEWR (Reply 40):
That is one ugly airplane.

 no 

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: Moose135
Posted 2007-03-20 04:46:54 and read 25870 times.

Here are some shots of the landing today:


Waiting with much anticipation:
http://moose135.smugmug.com/photos/137309732-L.jpg

On final:
http://moose135.smugmug.com/photos/137301794-L.jpg

Touchdown!
http://moose135.smugmug.com/photos/137301777-L.jpg

http://moose135.smugmug.com/photos/137301839-L.jpg

http://moose135.smugmug.com/photos/137308800-L.jpg

http://moose135.smugmug.com/photos/137302020-L.jpg

http://moose135.smugmug.com/photos/137302136-L.jpg

http://moose135.smugmug.com/photos/137302852-L.jpg

The Captain and First Officer from the flight:
http://moose135.smugmug.com/photos/137309560-L.jpg

Members of the 23-person cabin crew:
http://moose135.smugmug.com/photos/137309409-L.jpg

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: CactusTECH
Posted 2007-03-20 04:59:18 and read 25416 times.

I Had my son with me in terminal one for those of you who might had seen me, it was pretty obvious

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: Mirrodie
Posted 2007-03-20 05:12:53 and read 25217 times.

Quoting CactusTECH (Reply 49):
it was pretty obvious

.....so does that mean he was all loud and screaming?? What was obvious?


Great shots you posted Moose! I should probably upload mine here but perhaps tomorrow. Baby calls.

[Edited 2007-03-20 05:13:46]

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: Antskip
Posted 2007-03-20 05:13:46 and read 25168 times.

Quoting B6JFKH81 (Reply 4):
it seemed small, stubby almost. A couple of folks commented that it looked like a double decker A310 with 4 engines because it was stubby looking.

Looks "chubby" a bit like the B747SP did i.e. it has "too small" a fuselage for the size of its extremities - like a lion or tiger cub - as if it were designed with a bigger fuselage, then reduced...which in a way it is - a Version -1. Once it grows into its "normal" (bigger) fuselage it will look "better" proportioned...

Quoting SafetyDude (Reply 26):
you and I were at the same spot

Not ever possible, in the same moment.(smile)

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: Thorben
Posted 2007-03-20 10:55:03 and read 21465 times.

Quoting JAL777 (Thread starter):
As you can see, I suck at photography but it was worth the 40 minute drive.

You certainly don't suck at photography, those are some nice pictures as are those of the others. A clear blue winter sky and a nice plane, what else could you want in a picture?

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: DC3CV3407AC727
Posted 2007-03-20 12:17:55 and read 20481 times.

Awesome ship, I look forward to watching it fly the Canarsie Approach !

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: JAM747
Posted 2007-03-20 13:35:23 and read 19346 times.

Quoting GothamSpotter (Reply 46):
Meetup of NYC area spotters for Wednesday's media event (two takeoffs and two landings) is being planned here. (NYCAviation.com)

Thanks, someone mentioned it would be leaving at 8:45am and returning at 10:30am. Where will it be going and how come it will be back so quick? Which terminal will it be at these times so I can see it on Wed? .

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: ADiZzy
Posted 2007-03-20 13:55:17 and read 18969 times.

WOW..I wish she would have come to BOSTON or would come to Boston at some point soon!

What a marvelous plane. Does anyone know the first a380 commerical flight and when it is?

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: AlecxiA319
Posted 2007-03-20 14:12:56 and read 18626 times.

WOW!! That's amazing, you can probably hear that monster from a mile away!
That must have been chaotic!
AlecxiA319

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: Alibo5NGN
Posted 2007-03-20 14:54:19 and read 18185 times.

See a glimpse of what my eyes and my Nikon beheld at JFK!!!

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Awesome! Majestic! Regal! As I said before, as an enthusiast, it was worth my time.

 bigthumbsup   bigthumbsup   bigthumbsup 

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: Super Em
Posted 2007-03-20 15:48:23 and read 16855 times.

I was fortunate to get up close to it at JFK from landing to taxi-in at Terminal one. She is big, tall, and round but not very long. Parked next to a Korean 747-400, I was able to make a direct comparison between the 2. It has an oval kind of shape to it while the 747 looks much more like a bullet. I was impressed by the size of the engines, wingspan and the cargo doors. Every thing about her is big.

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: Golftango
Posted 2007-03-20 16:09:38 and read 16586 times.

My contributions  

http://members.cox.net/hamburgberlin/a380pic1.jpg
http://members.cox.net/hamburgberlin/a380pic3.jpg
http://members.cox.net/hamburgberlin/a380pic5.jpg

and the rest...

http://members.cox.net/hamburgberlin/

[Edited 2007-03-20 16:34:18]

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: Revelation
Posted 2007-03-20 16:22:14 and read 16173 times.

Seeing the lovely pictures makes one wonder how different the world would be now if this was all happening in 2005 as was the original plan.

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: MattCan
Posted 2007-03-20 16:38:15 and read 15839 times.

Can someone post a shot with other a/c in the same frame for scale and reference?

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: Mir
Posted 2007-03-20 16:54:44 and read 15523 times.

Quoting AlecxiA319 (Reply 56):
WOW!! That's amazing, you can probably hear that monster from a mile away!

Actually, no. It's really quiet for its size. No louder than a 744.

Quoting JAM747 (Reply 54):
Thanks, someone mentioned it would be leaving at 8:45am and returning at 10:30am. Where will it be going and how come it will be back so quick? Which terminal will it be at these times so I can see it on Wed?

According to an NY Times article, it'll be doing a flyover of Manhattan. Should be quite a sight.

-Mir

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: Alphafloor
Posted 2007-03-20 16:57:26 and read 15481 times.

Quoting Super Em (Reply 58):
Parked next to a Korean 747-400, I was able to make a direct comparison between the 2



Quoting MattCan (Reply 61):
Can someone post a shot with other a/c in the same frame for scale and reference?

Me too, I never saw a picture of the A380 with a B747 for a direct size comparison. Anyone ?

[Edited 2007-03-20 17:13:06]

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: Moose135
Posted 2007-03-20 16:58:19 and read 15417 times.

Quoting JAM747 (Reply 54):

Thanks, someone mentioned it would be leaving at 8:45am and returning at 10:30am. Where will it be going and how come it will be back so quick? Which terminal will it be at these times so I can see it on Wed? .

It's going to be a local area flight for media and invited guests. I imagine it will be working out of T1 again, but I don't know for sure. I would expect it to be up and down Rwy 22L/4R since that is the only one at JFK currently wide enough for her.

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: Mikephotos
Posted 2007-03-20 17:07:04 and read 15439 times.

Here are 2 of my shots from yesterday.

http://www.aviationwire.net/a380_02mm.jpg

http://www.aviationwire.net/a380_01mm.jpg

Mike

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: Tjwgrr
Posted 2007-03-20 17:23:42 and read 14966 times.

Quoting Mikephotos (Reply 65):
Here are 2 of my shots from yesterday.

Reverse thrust with inboard engines only..... interesting. Suppose it reduces the chance for FOD ingestion since those engines are hangin' out so far....

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: NWOrientDC10
Posted 2007-03-20 17:45:56 and read 14451 times.

Many thanks to the photographers who were able to present images of the A380 for those of us who were not able to be at JFK when it was/is there. Thank you  Smile

I'm curious about something, though. Moose135 had pics of all of the flight crew and it looks like they are LH employees. How why were they selected to be on this flight? Was it a seniority thing or was there some kind of lottery to determine this? This isn't meant to be "flamebait", I'm wondering how one gets to be on flights of this nature, that's all.

Good Day  Smile

Russell

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: Mir
Posted 2007-03-20 17:54:22 and read 14234 times.

Quoting Moose135 (Reply 64):
I would expect it to be up and down Rwy 22L/4R since that is the only one at JFK currently wide enough for her.

It departed off of 31L today. Perhaps it's only a landing issue with 4R/22L.

-Mir

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: Lan1981
Posted 2007-03-20 18:39:23 and read 13308 times.

Great photos, thanks! Some more photos on this site: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/6469967.stm

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: Dash 80
Posted 2007-03-20 19:07:10 and read 12672 times.

Quoting Tjwgrr (Reply 65):
Reverse thrust with inboard engines only..... interesting. Suppose it reduces the chance for FOD ingestion since those engines are hangin' out so far....

IIRC, the 380 only has the reversers on the # 2 and 3 engines.

Steve

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: SkyHarborsHome
Posted 2007-03-20 20:41:18 and read 11403 times.

Did anyone get a vid clip of the take-off?

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: GusNYC
Posted 2007-03-20 21:38:09 and read 11176 times.

I am sorry if this was answered somewhere else, but I can't find the information.

What time is the 380 coming back to JFK? Tomorrow wed? What time?

Thanks for the answer.

Gus

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: Moose135
Posted 2007-03-20 21:54:59 and read 11099 times.

Quoting NWOrientDC10 (Reply 66):
I'm curious about something, though. Moose135 had pics of all of the flight crew and it looks like they are LH employees. How why were they selected to be on this flight? Was it a seniority thing or was there some kind of lottery to determine this? This isn't meant to be "flamebait", I'm wondering how one gets to be on flights of this nature, that's all.

The flight & cabin crew were all LH employees, as this was officially a "proving flight" for LH. I spoke with the Chief Purser following the press conference, he said he had been working on the A380 project for LH for several years, which is how he was chosen for the flight. I suppose it was a mix of employees who have been involved with it and seniority. They did have over 100 LH employees as passengers, he said they were selected by a lottery (out of over 13,000). Interestingly, the flight was supposed to carry close to 550 pax, however nearly 100 didn't make the trip. He said snowstorms in northern Germany caused problems with people trying to connect into Frankfurt for the flight. Wonder if JetBlue was handling that portion of the trip  Big grin

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: Golftango
Posted 2007-03-20 22:00:07 and read 11085 times.

Quoting MattCan (Reply 60):
Can someone post a shot with other a/c in the same frame for scale and reference?

After being up close I can say that although the A380 is dimensionally larger than a 747-400, IMHO the 747-400 seems larger to me.  Embarrassment

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: CoolGuy
Posted 2007-03-20 22:02:18 and read 11054 times.

Flyover of Manhattan tomorrow? I'd love to see it (and maybe take some pics). Anyone know what route and when?

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: Starlionblue
Posted 2007-03-20 22:03:13 and read 11061 times.

Quoting Tjwgrr (Reply 65):
Reverse thrust with inboard engines only..... interesting. Suppose it reduces the chance for FOD ingestion since those engines are hangin' out so far....

That's a whole can of worms.  Wink

Anyway as mentioned further up, the 380 only has reversers on the outboards. This saves weight and prevents FOD ingestion.

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: Starlionblue
Posted 2007-03-20 22:06:30 and read 11066 times.

Quoting MattCan (Reply 60):
Can someone post a shot with other a/c in the same frame for scale and reference?

This useful graphic http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Giant_planes_comparison.svg compares:
- A380-800
- An-224
- B747-8i
- Hughes H-4 "Spruce Goose"

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: Mirrodie
Posted 2007-03-20 22:39:38 and read 10910 times.

That is a great graphic. People have this distorted image that its a behemoth over the 747 when its only fractionally larger.

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: Moose135
Posted 2007-03-20 22:46:35 and read 10879 times.

Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 75):
Anyway as mentioned further up, the 380 only has reversers on the outboards. This saves weight and prevents FOD ingestion.

I'm sure it was just a typo between inboard and outboard... Big grin

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: Tsnamm
Posted 2007-03-21 02:46:25 and read 10676 times.

here's one from the ramp....

Big version: Width: 2592 Height: 1944 File size: 1305kb

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: Mikephotos
Posted 2007-03-21 03:32:20 and read 10542 times.

Quoting RJpieces (Reply 8):
How did they do it? I wasn't able to see the setup from where I was in T1.

Just a quick grab through the window as I was leaving so sorry for the poorish quality but it shows (somewhat) the jetway setup:

(click to see larger version)
http://www.aviationwire.net/a380atgate.jpg

Mike

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: WingedMigrator
Posted 2007-03-21 05:17:02 and read 10336 times.

Quoting Alphafloor (Reply 62):
Me too, I never saw a picture of the A380 with a B747 for a direct size comparison. Anyone ?

This photo ought to do it. It shows a small Big grin Qantas 744 in front of the A380 in LAX.

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: MUCFLYER
Posted 2007-03-21 09:48:47 and read 10028 times.

Quoting Moose135 (Reply 72):

The original Version of MSN 007 was 12/64/443 Config for this flight LH8940 FRA-JFK.
They reduce the capacity onto 12/55/412 on that day (reason for me unknown, maybe equipment for press people...)
Actually 10/51/397 Passengers checked in for this flight. So 2/4/15 seats left free. Of course an unusual low 'No show rate'

maybe some other interesting facts for some of you...:
MZFW 366000 ADJ ...... (Adjusted)
MTOW 569000 ADJ ......
MLAW 391000 ADJ 386000
FZFW 350000
DOW 297000

Pax 458/37098
BAG 6515
CGO 8037
that makes an actual load of 51.650 tons
Blockfuel 135000
TOF 134000
so Taxi 1000
(Trip 107985)
Rest for contingency, alternate etc.

cheers

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: Alphafloor
Posted 2007-03-21 10:35:15 and read 9947 times.

Quoting WingedMigrator (Reply 81):
Quoting Alphafloor (Reply 62):
Me too, I never saw a picture of the A380 with a B747 for a direct size comparison. Anyone ?

This photo ought to do it. It shows a small Qantas 744 in front of the A380 in LAX.

Thanks, good photo. But I wonder if the lense do not affect the comparison in this picture. What I'm looking for is a side by side shot of both planes, now that would be interesting. As far as I know there isn't any yet. I've seen the graphic comparison posted above many times and wanted to see it for real.

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: Starlionblue
Posted 2007-03-21 13:59:59 and read 9719 times.

Quoting Moose135 (Reply 78):
Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 75):
Anyway as mentioned further up, the 380 only has reversers on the outboards. This saves weight and prevents FOD ingestion.

I'm sure it was just a typo between inboard and outboard...

Indeed. Oops!

Quoting Mirrodie (Reply 77):
That is a great graphic. People have this distorted image that its a behemoth over the 747 when its only fractionally larger.

Indeed. However not that the graphic shows the 747-8. Also, even though the footprint is not that much larger the 380 is much more massive than the 747 with two full decks. The wings are also much larger.

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: Richierich
Posted 2007-03-21 14:14:36 and read 9648 times.

Quoting JAL777 (Thread starter):
As you can see, I suck at photography but it was worth the 40 minute drive.



Quoting RJpieces (Reply 2):
I met some nice people while waiting for it to land and in Terminal 1, but didn't catch if any of you were A.net members. So if anyone here reads this and was there please drop me a message!



Quoting RJpieces (Reply 2):
For those who weren't there, a ton of cars pulled to the side of Rockaway Blvd right under the threshold of 22L. After monitoring 125.7for about 20 minutes, the A380 was cleared to begin the 22L approach. As it got close, traffic on Rockaway Blvd pretty much came to a standstill. And of course it was amazing as it passed right over us.



Quoting Mirrodie (Reply 36):
I did manage to see her and got a few shots. It was amazing to see the fanfare that surrounded the arrival!

First of all, JAL's pictures were very very good! Secondly, I was on Rockaway Blvd and also at T1, so I probably ran into some fellow a.netters.... I did speak to a group of four who were taking lots of photos for another site, not sure if any of those pics ended up on this website. All in all, it was a great scene and I was very glad so see such a good turnout. I got a kick out of the NYC cop that drove Rockaway Blvd. telling everybody that they had to move their cars... there was one of him and a couple of hundred of us. With about 5 minutes to go before the A380's arrival, I'm pretty sure that nobody moved!

Nice job everybody! I'll post some of my pics when I get a chance.

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: Mirrodie
Posted 2007-03-22 03:08:30 and read 8965 times.

Quoting Richierich (Reply 85):
Also, even though the footprint is not that much larger the 380 is much more massive than the 747 with two full decks

Having seen both up close, I was left a bit unimpressed. Sure the wings are larger and its got the taller features. But it's just not that much larger than a 747. It's not saying I don't like it but I was just a bit unimpressed is all. Having spoken to others there, they shared similar opinions. It was an event to see but I wasn't wowed. And truth is I probably won't be wowed with the 787 either  Wink

Topic: RE: A380 @ JFK!
Username: PYP757
Posted 2007-03-22 03:35:02 and read 8901 times.

Quoting B6MoneyGuyJFK (Reply 5):
One more taken from inside JFK


That picture of the 380 landing at a frozen JFK reminds me of the cold test pictures at Iqaluit. Can't wait for Spring to start!


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