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Topic: DL 764 To DKR-JNB, GRU And EZE This Winter
Username: Laxintl
Posted 2007-08-06 19:45:45 and read 8228 times.

Not yet updated in res systems (should be next weekend), however DL will be moving 764 flying around for the winter away from Europe.

ATL-DKR-JNB effective Oct 27.
ATL-GRU (105/104) Effective Nov 27
ATL-EZE effective Nov 30.
ATL-GRU (145/144) Effective Jan 05

Topic: RE: DL 764 To DKR-JNB, GRU And EZE This Winter
Username: RwSEA
Posted 2007-08-06 20:23:39 and read 8103 times.

Smart if you ask me. Taking advantage of reduced demand in Europe and increased demand to these destinations in the Winter. Especially smart in the case of restricted bilateral agreements, such as is the case with GRU and EZE.

Would be nice to see the 764 stay on ATL-JNB year-round. A flight that long really deserves the nicer interiors of the 764s (e.g. PTVs, powerports, etc.)

Topic: RE: DL 764 To DKR-JNB, GRU And EZE This Winter
Username: EddieDude
Posted 2007-08-06 20:39:21 and read 8053 times.

Does DL still have domestic-configured 764's in its fleet (i.e., without PTV's and with domestic first instead of Business Elite?

Topic: RE: DL 764 To DKR-JNB, GRU And EZE This Winter
Username: Laxintl
Posted 2007-08-06 20:44:38 and read 8025 times.

Quoting RwSEA (Reply 1):
Especially smart in the case of restricted bilateral agreements, such as is the case with GRU and EZE.

Argentina is not restricted any longer. There are additional frequencies available for US carriers under the expanded bilateral.

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 2):
Does DL still have domestic-configured 764's in its fleet

Yes.
764 fleet is split with 13 aircraft(1801-1813) in domestic configuration F36Y249, and 8 (1814-1821) in international configurations J42Y204.

Topic: RE: DL 764 To DKR-JNB, GRU And EZE This Winter
Username: EddieDude
Posted 2007-08-06 20:50:08 and read 7992 times.

Quoting Laxintl (Reply 3):
764 fleet is split with 13 aircraft(1801-1813) in domestic configuration F36Y249, and 8 (1814-1821) in international configurations J42Y204.

Ah! Thanks a lot for the information Laxintl! So the domestic planes basically fly to Hawaii? Or hub-to-hub routes? I recall that at first DL started sending them to Europe and would sell all the seats as coach seats (with the domestic first seats assigned to elite members and/or full-Y pax, right?).

I wonder if DL will refit its 13 764 domestics to international configurated aircraft and redeploy them to Europe, South America, etc.

Topic: RE: DL 764 To DKR-JNB, GRU And EZE This Winter
Username: DLOnur
Posted 2007-08-06 21:22:03 and read 7905 times.

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 4):
I wonder if DL will refit its 13 764 domestics to international configurated aircraft and redeploy them to Europe, South America, etc.

There is a good chance this will occur during the next couple of years. The international push is everything right now at DL. Using every available A/C for expansion is the plan.

-o-

Topic: RE: DL 764 To DKR-JNB, GRU And EZE This Winter
Username: MAH4546
Posted 2007-08-06 21:25:04 and read 7890 times.

Quoting Laxintl (Reply 3):
Argentina is not restricted any longer. There are additional frequencies available for US carriers under the expanded bilateral.

It is still restricted. The expanded bilateral will be doubling available frequencies to 112, but it is still restricted.

Topic: RE: DL 764 To DKR-JNB, GRU And EZE This Winter
Username: Laxintl
Posted 2007-08-06 21:28:23 and read 7876 times.

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 6):
but it is still restricted.

Not restricted in the sense if DL wanted 7 additional frequencies they would not get them.

As you know outside of AA's possible ORD-EZE route, no carrier has requested even one of the added frequency allocations.

Topic: RE: DL 764 To DKR-JNB, GRU And EZE This Winter
Username: Hardiwv
Posted 2007-08-06 21:31:56 and read 7868 times.

Great news for GRU with yet another expansion of DL in Brazil. DL recently opened a dedicated business lounge in GRU, the Crown Club in GRU is one of the few located outside the US.

Rgs,

Topic: RE: DL 764 To DKR-JNB, GRU And EZE This Winter
Username: MAH4546
Posted 2007-08-06 21:35:34 and read 7856 times.

Quoting Laxintl (Reply 7):

As you know outside of AA's possible ORD-EZE route, no carrier has requested even one of the added frequency allocations.

Yup, which has really shocked me. I thought airlines would be all over it.

Topic: RE: DL 764 To DKR-JNB, GRU And EZE This Winter
Username: Skibum9
Posted 2007-08-06 21:41:17 and read 7831 times.

Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 8):
Great news for GRU with yet another expansion of DL in Brazil. DL recently opened a dedicated business lounge in GRU, the Crown Club in GRU is one of the few located outside the US.

It's about time. That Air France lounge that they shared was terrible!

Topic: RE: DL 764 To DKR-JNB, GRU And EZE This Winter
Username: Hardiwv
Posted 2007-08-06 22:20:53 and read 7725 times.

Quoting Skibum9 (Reply 10):
It's about time. That Air France lounge that they shared was terrible!

AF lounge in GRU and GIG are quite nice and based on the new NEV concept. The food is pretty good and certainly better than any available in DL lounges in the US.

Rgs,

Topic: RE: DL 764 To DKR-JNB, GRU And EZE This Winter
Username: RwSEA
Posted 2007-08-06 22:28:14 and read 7696 times.

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 9):
Quoting Laxintl (Reply 7):

As you know outside of AA's possible ORD-EZE route, no carrier has requested even one of the added frequency allocations.


Yup, which has really shocked me. I thought airlines would be all over it.

I would have thought DL would at least apply for JFK-EZE given how hard they fought CO for it a couple years back. Maybe the lack of success on their JFK-GRU flight is making them re-think their JFK-South America plans.

Topic: RE: DL 764 To DKR-JNB, GRU And EZE This Winter
Username: 1337Delta764
Posted 2007-08-06 22:32:22 and read 7683 times.

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 4):
I wonder if DL will refit its 13 764 domestics to international configurated aircraft and redeploy them to Europe, South America, etc.



Quoting DLOnur (Reply 5):
There is a good chance this will occur during the next couple of years. The international push is everything right now at DL. Using every available A/C for expansion is the plan.

It has been confirmed that they will all be in international configuration by 2009. In addition to the eight current international aircraft, five more will be converted over the winter for the summer of 2008, with a total of 13 international 767-400s. Currently, the international aircraft are N838MH, N839MH, N840MH, N841MH, N842MH, N843MH, N844MH, and N845MH. I assume that the next five to be converted will be N833MH, N834MH, N835MH, N836MH, and N837MH. The eight remaining domestic 767-400s will be converted to international configuration for the summer of 2009.

Topic: RE: DL 764 To DKR-JNB, GRU And EZE This Winter
Username: Panamair
Posted 2007-08-06 22:45:08 and read 7659 times.

Quoting RwSEA (Reply 1):
Taking advantage of reduced demand in Europe and increased demand to these destinations in the Winter. Especially smart in the case of restricted bilateral agreements, such as is the case with GRU and EZE.

Actually, ATL-EZE already got the 764ER last winter (starting mid-February) for a short period as did ATL-SCL. This time round I guess SCL is being replaced by GRU.

Quoting RwSEA (Reply 12):
Maybe the lack of success on their JFK-GRU flight is making them re-think their JFK-South America plans.

While JFK-GRU may not be a stellar performer like JFK-ACC or other new JFK routes, it is sitll making some progress. Remember that DL has only been in the market for 13 months; previous estimates that led to the conclusion that JFK-GRU is lackluster were based on passenger boardings in IIRC May 2007 where there was no corresponding May 2006 service for comparison. The key is to look at Y-O-Y (year-over-year) numbers to compare apples with apples. Y-O-Y figures only became available staring from mid-June (the service started Jun 16 2006) and so far, it is showing improvement on a direct Y-O-Y basis.

Topic: RE: DL 764 To DKR-JNB, GRU And EZE This Winter
Username: RJ_Delta
Posted 2007-08-06 23:11:57 and read 7592 times.

Quoting Panamair (Reply 14):
ATL-EZE already got the 764ER last winter (starting mid-February) for a short period as did ATL-SCL.

During the last winter Delta didn't´t operate the ATL-EZE route with a 764 . They kept its 763 service. For ATL-SCL route Delta operated the 764 until May 15.

Topic: RE: DL 764 To DKR-JNB, GRU And EZE This Winter
Username: Panamair
Posted 2007-08-06 23:18:34 and read 7566 times.

Quoting RJ_Delta (Reply 15):
During the last winter Delta didn't´t operate the ATL-EZE route with a 764 . They kept its 763 service

Are you 100% sure? I had a reservation on DL101 to EZE in the third week of Feb and had a seat assigned on the 764ER (42J 204Y) but I did have to cancel about a week before and didn't check then whether it was still a 764.

Topic: RE: DL 764 To DKR-JNB, GRU And EZE This Winter
Username: SAOAP
Posted 2007-08-06 23:20:47 and read 7559 times.

Great news for us in Brazil!!! I look forward to spotting some of Delta's 764 in GRU.

Cheers!

Marcelo

Topic: RE: DL 764 To DKR-JNB, GRU And EZE This Winter
Username: LipeGIG
Posted 2007-08-06 23:40:52 and read 7494 times.

Nice news ! But i really expect that Rio also deserves the 764 during the winter.

Quoting Panamair (Reply 14):
While JFK-GRU may not be a stellar performer like JFK-ACC or other new JFK routes, it is sitll making some progress. Remember that DL has only been in the market for 13 months; previous estimates that led to the conclusion that JFK-GRU is lackluster were based on passenger boardings in IIRC May 2007 where there was no corresponding May 2006 service for comparison

The route now transports more people, but fares are still very low compared to ATL for example. So the yields are not that high. Situation is improving but considering the competition on this route, better to keep the 763. While ATL-GRU and ATL-GIG R/T both are a US$ 1,300 ticket, JFK-GRU-JFK is just US$ 700. Today for example, Y is fully but you can find a seat on the system for US$ 794 (if you are a top customer like Gold or Platinum, prepare to be upgraded as there are 50% of business class available)

Felipe

Topic: RE: DL 764 To DKR-JNB, GRU And EZE This Winter
Username: MAH4546
Posted 2007-08-06 23:46:52 and read 7472 times.

Quoting Panamair (Reply 14):
While JFK-GRU may not be a stellar performer like JFK-ACC or other new JFK routes, it is sitll making some progress.

Doesn't seem to be making much progress with yields and business class loads. JFK-GRU is almost a guaranteed upgrade to C for top flyers.

Topic: RE: DL 764 To DKR-JNB, GRU And EZE This Winter
Username: RJ_Delta
Posted 2007-08-06 23:52:40 and read 7436 times.

Quoting Panamair (Reply 16):
Are you 100% sure? I had a reservation on DL101 to EZE in the third week of Feb and had a seat assigned on the 764ER (42J 204Y) but I did have to cancel about a week before and didn't check then whether it was still a 764.

Initially Delta assigned the B764 to EZE for the last winter season. However days before they cancelled the 764 service.

Topic: RE: DL 764 To DKR-JNB, GRU And EZE This Winter
Username: Reggaebird
Posted 2007-08-07 01:41:00 and read 7299 times.

As much as I love the B764, I look forward to the day when Delta deploys a brand-spanking-new Boeing 777-200LR with fully-flat-bed, pod-style Business Elite seats on the year-round Atlanta-Jo'burg route. Oh, glory!!! I am getting moist!  Smile

Surely this will be a prime route for that machine.

Reggaebird

Topic: RE: DL 764 To DKR-JNB, GRU And EZE This Winter
Username: Skibum9
Posted 2007-08-07 02:00:31 and read 7247 times.

Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 11):
AF lounge in GRU and GIG are quite nice and based on the new NEV concept. The food is pretty good and certainly better than any available in DL lounges in the US.

Well I guess each to their own. I thought the AF lounge at GRU was the worst DL lounge that I had ever been in, the food was terrible, there wasn't enough seating for all those using the lounge, it was cramped, and a it had total lack of service (only one representative). The last time I was there was two years ago, so it may have changed since then. If not and that is the NEV concept, then I say I will NEVer use it again. I've made numerous trips through GRU, and I found that particularly lounge so substandard that I would just hang out in the terminal, at a bar that served sushi.

Topic: RE: DL 764 To DKR-JNB, GRU And EZE This Winter
Username: Swissair4ever
Posted 2007-08-07 03:20:50 and read 7140 times.

are there any DL 763's international configuration, that have PTV's, and or the headrest kind of seats of the 764's

Topic: RE: DL 764 To DKR-JNB, GRU And EZE This Winter
Username: 1337Delta764
Posted 2007-08-07 03:28:37 and read 7120 times.

Quoting Swissair4ever (Reply 23):
are there any DL 763's international configuration, that have PTV's, and or the headrest kind of seats of the 764's

A few of the newest 767-300ERs have the headrests, but that is a small minority of them, and most of them do not feature winged headrests. None of the 767-300ERs feature PTVs in economy.

Topic: RE: DL 764 To DKR-JNB, GRU And EZE This Winter
Username: Thering
Posted 2007-08-07 03:52:20 and read 7086 times.

Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 11):
AF lounge in GRU and GIG are quite nice and based on the new NEV concept. The food is pretty good and certainly better than any available in DL lounges in the US.

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Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 18):
(if you are a top customer like Gold or Platinum, prepare to be upgraded as there are 50% of business class available)

Is DL like this Felipe?? They give Y (Golf/Plat) flyers upgrades to BusinessElite when they are not booked on that?? Didn't know about that. I flew DL's GRU-ATL once in BusinessElite and there were only 13 pax.......... Very nice to hear this, that carriers still a bit like in the past...

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Back on the thread itself, very nice to hear this!! Another 764 in GRU! Any guess about were the former 763 are going to fly to now??

Topic: RE: DL 764 To DKR-JNB, GRU And EZE This Winter
Username: WorldTraveler
Posted 2007-08-07 03:58:16 and read 7078 times.

LOS starts up this winter and DL is doing some heavy mod work on the 763ER fleet this winter including adding crew rest facilities to some aircraft to allow flights over 12 hrs.

Topic: RE: DL 764 To DKR-JNB, GRU And EZE This Winter
Username: Skibum9
Posted 2007-08-07 04:09:02 and read 7048 times.

Quoting WorldTraveler (Reply 26):
LOS starts up this winter and DL is doing some heavy mod work on the 763ER fleet this winter including adding crew rest facilities to some aircraft to allow flights over 12 hrs.

How are they adding the crew rest facilities? Will it be something like what they did with the MD-11, where they can shut off a portion up front by the L-1 door while in flight? Or will they set something up in the mini-cabin right behind BizE?

Topic: RE: DL 764 To DKR-JNB, GRU And EZE This Winter
Username: Ken4556
Posted 2007-08-07 04:27:32 and read 7003 times.

I flew LGW-ATL last month and Delta did upgrade me to business class as a Plat member. So, they do take care of thier FF members when they can.

Topic: RE: DL 764 To DKR-JNB, GRU And EZE This Winter
Username: LipeGIG
Posted 2007-08-07 06:35:51 and read 6807 times.

Quoting Thering (Reply 25):
Is DL like this Felipe?? They give Y (Golf/Plat) flyers upgrades to BusinessElite when they are not booked on that?? Didn't know about that. I flew DL's GRU-ATL once in BusinessElite and there were only 13 pax.......... Very nice to hear this, that carriers still a bit like in the past...

Yes, they do. Just because they use to sell more Y tickets as they keep some C available. At time of check-in Plat/Gold members get priority for upgrades on routes like JFK-GRU where Y demand is higher. It helps also on both ATL flights to GRU and GIG, but fares use to be very high. Yesterday while Y fare JFK-GRU was US$ 794, ATL-GRU was US$ 1860 and ATL-GIG US$ 2,040. All of them without Y available, only some C seats.

I believe the other (AA, UA and CO) do the same, but as i'm not frequent flyer of them, can't confirm.

Felipe

Topic: RE: DL 764 To DKR-JNB, GRU And EZE This Winter
Username: Panamair
Posted 2007-08-07 09:37:20 and read 6412 times.

Quoting Thering (Reply 25):
Is DL like this Felipe?? They give Y (Golf/Plat) flyers upgrades to BusinessElite when they are not booked on that?? Didn't know about that. I flew DL's GRU-ATL once in BusinessElite and there were only 13 pax.......... Very nice to hear this, that carriers still a bit like in the past...



Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 29):
I believe the other (AA, UA and CO) do the same, but as i'm not frequent flyer of them, can't confirm.

Yes, this is pretty much standard operating procedure with most carriers when Y is oversold and there are J class seats available. It costs the airline less to 'involuntarily bump' a passenger from Y to J than to provide IDB (Involuntarily Denied Boarding) compensation or to solicit volunteers. To decide on who to bump from Y to J, airlines usually start with the highest elite tier passengers in their own Frequent Flyer program and they go down by level...after they're done with their own Elites, and if seats are still required, they will look at their alliance partners' elites....

Topic: RE: DL 764 To DKR-JNB, GRU And EZE This Winter
Username: Hardiwv
Posted 2007-08-07 09:56:17 and read 6355 times.

Can we expect GRU to get DL B777 during 2008?

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 29):
I believe the other (AA, UA and CO) do the same, but as i'm not frequent flyer of them, can't confirm

CO is doing great in its EWR-GRU, while AA JFK-GRU is AAs most profitable route from JFK (LHR brings more revenue but GRU is most profitable route).

Rgs,

Topic: RE: DL 764 To DKR-JNB, GRU And EZE This Winter
Username: DAL767400ER
Posted 2007-08-07 11:29:18 and read 6182 times.

Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 31):
Can we expect GRU to get DL B777 during 2008?

No chance, too few of them in the fleet and the 77Ls coming will be needed elsewhere.

Topic: RE: DL 764 To DKR-JNB, GRU And EZE This Winter
Username: TBCITDG
Posted 2007-08-07 11:33:16 and read 6168 times.

I still cannot beleive how much traffic from the US that EZE will be getting!
Outside if the big Brasilian players, where next would be the most served South American city by the US carriers?

Topic: RE: DL 764 To DKR-JNB, GRU And EZE This Winter
Username: EI321
Posted 2007-08-07 11:34:39 and read 6163 times.

Will we see the 764 in DUB again or will it be the 763?

Topic: RE: DL 764 To DKR-JNB, GRU And EZE This Winter
Username: TYCOON
Posted 2007-08-07 12:00:54 and read 6093 times.

On the AF lounges Delta uses or used at GRU and GIG, I actually thought the one at GRU was OK. The new one at GIG is very nice - IF you are the only person there. It is way too small to accommodate everyone and you sometimes struggle to find a proper place to sit.

There was a shared lounge in GRU AF was using for a while (AR used it as well). Although not particularly nice looking and blind (no windows), great service with a barman who would walk around the lounge and ask you if you wanted a caipirinha!!! Great, I'll have 3!

Topic: RE: DL 764 To DKR-JNB, GRU And EZE This Winter
Username: Hardiwv
Posted 2007-08-07 12:19:28 and read 6056 times.

Quoting TYCOON (Reply 35):
The new one at GIG is very nice - IF you are the only person there. It is way too small to accommodate everyone and you sometimes struggle to find a proper place to sit.



Quoting TYCOON (Reply 35):
GRU: great service with a barman who would walk around the lounge and ask you if you wanted a caipirinha!!!

 bigthumbsup 

Rgs,

Topic: RE: DL 764 To DKR-JNB, GRU And EZE This Winter
Username: Thering
Posted 2007-08-07 15:49:45 and read 5518 times.

Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 31):
Can we expect GRU to get DL B777 during 2008?

No way.

Topic: RE: DL 764 To DKR-JNB, GRU And EZE This Winter
Username: LipeGIG
Posted 2007-08-07 15:58:02 and read 5480 times.

Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 31):
Can we expect GRU to get DL B777 during 2008?

As explained by DAL767400ER, no chance even in 2009/2010. And with China on sight, the new frames probably will be used there.

Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 31):
CO is doing great in its EWR-GRU, while AA JFK-GRU is AAs most profitable route from JFK (LHR brings more revenue but GRU is most profitable route).

They perform well for sure, but both flights keep always availability for C and F. AA today has 9F and 1C available plus some Y seats. Competition is very strong and even JAL sells now C for US$ 2,800 R/T.

Felipe

Topic: RE: DL 764 To DKR-JNB, GRU And EZE This Winter
Username: EA772LR
Posted 2007-08-07 16:10:36 and read 5434 times.

Has DL painted any of the 764ER's in the new colors. I have seen a 763, but are there any 764ER's with the new livery??

Topic: RE: DL 764 To DKR-JNB, GRU And EZE This Winter
Username: Hardiwv
Posted 2007-08-07 17:22:28 and read 5213 times.

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 38):
As explained by DAL767400ER, no chance even in 2009/2010. And with China on sight, the new frames probably will be used there.



Quoting Thering (Reply 37):
No way.

GRU is one of DL's top intercontinental markets. I would not be surprised, although there is no doubt that Asia remains the number one candidate for DL's B777 the same way CO also deploys the B777 to Asia.

Rgs,

Topic: RE: DL 764 To DKR-JNB, GRU And EZE This Winter
Username: C010T3
Posted 2007-08-07 23:28:50 and read 4654 times.

Quoting TYCOON (Reply 35):
On the AF lounges Delta uses or used at GRU and GIG, I actually thought the one at GRU was OK. The new one at GIG is very nice - IF you are the only person there. It is way too small to accommodate everyone and you sometimes struggle to find a proper place to sit.

The problem at GIG is that AF is the only Skyteam member with a lounge. The lounge at GIG was the first one worldwide to have been renovated with NEV standard, so it's been quite sometime and they didn't anticipate that other Skyteam members would follow and increase flights to GIG back then.

Topic: RE: DL 764 To DKR-JNB, GRU And EZE This Winter
Username: EXAAUADL
Posted 2007-08-07 23:56:11 and read 4626 times.

What are the timings of ATL-JNB?

What is flying it now? 763 or 777?

Topic: RE: DL 764 To DKR-JNB, GRU And EZE This Winter
Username: 747fan
Posted 2007-08-08 00:11:05 and read 4602 times.

Does anyone know which Europe routes the 764's for DKR/JNB, GRU, and EZE are being taken off of? I assume they can't take one of the 2 764's for ATL-HNL (as well as ATL-SLC, west coast) since they're all probably in the domestic configuration.

Topic: RE: DL 764 To DKR-JNB, GRU And EZE This Winter
Username: HVNandrew
Posted 2007-08-08 00:15:38 and read 4598 times.

Considering ATL-DKR-JNB was originally supposed to be flown with a 772, it's about time for an upgrade.

Topic: RE: DL 764 To DKR-JNB, GRU And EZE This Winter
Username: Panamair
Posted 2007-08-08 00:17:20 and read 4595 times.

Quoting 747fan (Reply 43):
Does anyone know which Europe routes the 764's for DKR/JNB, GRU, and EZE are being taken off of?

The 764ER will pretty much be gone from all transatlantic routes during the winter except for ATL-CDG. Simply putting them on DKR/JNB, GRU, EZE will use up 6 frames already. Remember that DL only has 8 international 764ERs at this point so #7 will continue to ply ATL-CDG...

Topic: RE: DL 764 To DKR-JNB, GRU And EZE This Winter
Username: Hardiwv
Posted 2007-08-09 11:26:57 and read 4385 times.

Quoting Panamair (Reply 45):
The 764ER will pretty much be gone from all transatlantic routes during the winter except for ATL-CDG. Simply putting them on DKR/JNB, GRU, EZE will use up 6 frames already. Remember that DL only has 8 international 764ERs at this point so #7 will continue to ply ATL-CDG...

Interesting observation, you are correct. In general, we could conclude that during the Winter DL is deploying the B764 to GRU/EZE/DKR-JNB while during the Summer DL uses them to Europe.

Which European routes get DL B764ER intercontinental, apart from ATL-CDG?

Rgs,

Topic: RE: DL 764 To DKR-JNB, GRU And EZE This Winter
Username: Panamair
Posted 2007-08-09 12:03:05 and read 4370 times.

Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 46):
Which European routes get DL B764ER intercontinental, apart from ATL-CDG?

This past summer, the international 764ERs were deployed on:

ATL-CDG (2x)
ATL-LGW (1x)
ATL-MAN
ATL-MXP
ATL-MAD
ATL-BCN

Total of 7 transatlantic flights per day with 8 frames. All except for one ATL-CDG revert back to the 763ER for the winter.

Topic: RE: DL 764 To DKR-JNB, GRU And EZE This Winter
Username: Hardiwv
Posted 2007-08-09 13:21:50 and read 4337 times.

Quoting Panamair (Reply 47):
This past summer, the international 764ERs were deployed on:

ATL-CDG (2x)
ATL-LGW (1x)
ATL-MAN
ATL-MXP
ATL-MAD
ATL-BCN

Hence we could assume the above are the routes bringing more results to DL network in Europe. I am personally surprised with BCN.

Rgs,

Topic: RE: DL 764 To DKR-JNB, GRU And EZE This Winter
Username: DAL767400ER
Posted 2007-08-09 14:56:42 and read 4288 times.

Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 48):
I am personally surprised with BCN.

BCN has grown rather nicely over the past few years. This past season was the first time IIRC that BCN maintained a daily nonstop flight to the US on Delta, whereas during past winter seasons the ATL-BCN flight was cut completely and BCN was downgraded to a tag-on of the JFK-MAD flight.

Topic: RE: DL 764 To DKR-JNB, GRU And EZE This Winter
Username: Kappel
Posted 2007-08-09 16:38:11 and read 4215 times.

Quoting Panamair (Reply 47):
ATL-CDG (2x)
ATL-LGW (1x)
ATL-MAN
ATL-MXP
ATL-MAD
ATL-BCN

Any chance AMS might also see the DL 764 in the near future? Is the route doing well enough? Would be nice to see the DL 764 next to the CO 764 which we regularly see at AMS. I'm flying DL for the first time this winter BTW. AMS-JFK-DCA. Very excited. Anybody know how many 763's have the new interior and new c/s by then?

Topic: RE: DL 764 To DKR-JNB, GRU And EZE This Winter
Username: Hardiwv
Posted 2007-08-09 16:52:39 and read 4199 times.

Quoting Kappel (Reply 50):
Anybody know how many 763's have the new interior and new c/s by then?

DL has 21 x 764ERs in total of which 8 are "international" (BE for international). 5 x B764ER will undergo conversion this Winter and the remaining 8 x B764ER will then undergo conversion during Winter 2008.

Considering that more B764ER international are joining the fleet DL is currently considering which routes to deploy the B764ER international and there is a strong possibility JNB or EZE could be kept as year-round B764ER international. I would also not be surprised to see GRU included in the list.

Rgs,

Topic: RE: DL 764 To DKR-JNB, GRU And EZE This Winter
Username: Umfolozi
Posted 2007-08-11 08:27:16 and read 4020 times.

Got a brief glimpse of Delta 34 while in Jo'burg last weekend. Can't wait to see the B767-400ER!







Topic: RE: DL 764 To DKR-JNB, GRU And EZE This Winter
Username: Thering
Posted 2007-08-11 17:28:36 and read 3904 times.

Quoting Kappel (Reply 50):
Considering that more B764ER international are joining the fleet DL is currently considering which routes to deploy the B764ER international and there is a strong possibility JNB or EZE could be kept as year-round B764ER international. I would also not be surprised to see GRU included in the list.

Definately ATL-GRU would be a candidate... Even JFK-GRU! Delta is doin't quite well in Brazil and growing fast...

Topic: RE: DL 764 To DKR-JNB, GRU And EZE This Winter
Username: FLYGUY767
Posted 2007-08-11 17:40:28 and read 3894 times.

Quoting Panamair (Reply 47):
ATL-CDG (2x)
ATL-LGW (1x)
ATL-MAN
ATL-MXP
ATL-MAD
ATL-BCN

Arent the following routes as well:

CVG-FCO
ATL-FCO x 1
JFK-SNN

-JD

Topic: RE: DL 764 To DKR-JNB, GRU And EZE This Winter
Username: WorldTraveler
Posted 2007-08-11 18:25:23 and read 3861 times.

ATLAMS is scheduled for a 764 this fall and winter. Given that the S. America and JNB flights sit for the day in ATL, you can do scheduled maintenance then and have all 764s scheduled to fly in the evening when all of the flights depart.

Topic: RE: DL 764 To DKR-JNB, GRU And EZE This Winter
Username: 1337Delta764
Posted 2007-08-11 18:47:28 and read 3833 times.

Quoting FLYGUY767 (Reply 54):
CVG-FCO
ATL-FCO x 1
JFK-SNN

Those routes use a domestically-configured 767-400 sold as all coach. In the future, Delta may do the same with some of the domestic 767-300s now that some of them are ETOPS-rated.

Topic: RE: DL 764 To DKR-JNB, GRU And EZE This Winter
Username: Evan767
Posted 2007-08-11 20:41:49 and read 3769 times.

Quoting FLYGUY767 (Reply 54):
CVG-FCO
ATL-FCO x 1
JFK-SNN

...in domestic configuration.

Quoting EXAAUADL (Reply 42):
What are the timings of ATL-JNB?

What is flying it now? 763 or 777?

Hmmm, did you read the thread title?  Silly

Topic: RE: DL 764 To DKR-JNB, GRU And EZE This Winter
Username: Thering
Posted 2007-08-11 21:06:47 and read 3747 times.

Quoting Evan767 (Reply 57):
Quoting EXAAUADL (Reply 42):
What are the timings of ATL-JNB?

What is flying it now? 763 or 777?

Hmmm, did you read the thread title?

I think he ment before the 764?? Think was a 763

Topic: RE: DL 764 To DKR-JNB, GRU And EZE This Winter
Username: Evan767
Posted 2007-08-11 21:14:30 and read 3734 times.

Quoting Thering (Reply 58):
I think he ment before the 764?? Think was a 763

Oh my mistake, yeah it's a 763.

Topic: RE: DL 764 To DKR-JNB, GRU And EZE This Winter
Username: Thering
Posted 2007-08-11 21:21:44 and read 3729 times.

Quoting Evan767 (Reply 57):
Quoting FLYGUY767 (Reply 54):
CVG-FCO
ATL-FCO x 1
JFK-SNN

...in domestic configuration.

So BE flyers get those poor seats??

Topic: RE: DL 764 To DKR-JNB, GRU And EZE This Winter
Username: Alitalia744
Posted 2007-08-11 22:00:34 and read 3697 times.

Quoting Thering (Reply 60):
So BE flyers get those poor seats??

No, flights are sold as all-coach.

Medallions get to select the domestic F-seats when they book...

Topic: RE: DL 764 To DKR-JNB, GRU And EZE This Winter
Username: Thering
Posted 2007-08-11 22:33:41 and read 3676 times.

Quoting Alitalia744 (Reply 61):
Medallions get to select the domestic F-seats when they book...

ah.. good deal so.

Topic: RE: DL 764 To DKR-JNB, GRU And EZE This Winter
Username: Hardiwv
Posted 2007-08-13 13:11:29 and read 3487 times.

Quoting Umfolozi (Reply 52):
Got a brief glimpse of Delta 34 while in Jo'burg last weekend. Can't wait to see the B767-400ER!

ATL-GRU DL B764 now is confirmed and loaded on the system


Departure: 19:35 Atlanta, USA - Hartsfield Jackson, terminal S
Arrival: 08:05 +1 day(s) Sao Paulo, Brazil - Guarulhos International, terminal 1
Airline: Delta Air Lines DL105
Aircraft: Boeing 767-400

Departure: 22:35 Sao Paulo, Brazil - Guarulhos International, terminal 1
Arrival: 05:30 +1 day(s) Atlanta, USA - Hartsfield Jackson, terminal S
Airline: Delta Air Lines DL104
Aircraft: Boeing 767-400

Quoting Thering (Reply 53):
Definately ATL-GRU would be a candidate... Even JFK-GRU! Delta is doin't quite well in Brazil and growing fast...

Correct. With new reconfigurated planes joining the fleet I would agree that JNB, GRU and EZE are all top candidates for year-around B764 service. In fact, JN

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 56):
Those routes use a domestically-configured 767-400 sold as all coach.

DL B763/B764 configurated in domestic (such as routes ATL-LIM) are totally different that DL international which have BE service. The difference is from wine to water!

Rgs,

Topic: RE: DL 764 To DKR-JNB, GRU And EZE This Winter
Username: Thering
Posted 2007-08-13 13:20:16 and read 3478 times.

Which routes are DL operating with the 772s?

Topic: RE: DL 764 To DKR-JNB, GRU And EZE This Winter
Username: Alitalia744
Posted 2007-08-13 14:45:11 and read 3440 times.

Quoting Thering (Reply 64):
Which routes are DL operating with the 772s?

ATL-JFK-BOM
ATL-ICN
ATL-NRT
ATL-TLV
ATL-DXB
ATL-LAX (during turn between TLV flights)

Topic: RE: DL 764 To DKR-JNB, GRU And EZE This Winter
Username: Hardiwv
Posted 2007-08-13 16:40:12 and read 3379 times.

Once the B772 long range join the fleet one strong candidate is ATL-JNB nostop.

Rgs,

Topic: RE: DL 764 To DKR-JNB, GRU And EZE This Winter
Username: MD11junkie
Posted 2007-08-13 16:45:07 and read 3373 times.

Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 66):
Once the B772 long range join the fleet one strong candidate is ATL-JNB nostop.

Rgs,

I think you mean 77L?

Topic: RE: DL 764 To DKR-JNB, GRU And EZE This Winter
Username: Hardiwv
Posted 2007-08-13 17:01:03 and read 3348 times.

Quoting MD11junkie (Reply 67):
I think you mean 77L?

 bigthumbsup 

EZE is doing great in DL's network and CO even uses its B777 to EZE sometimes.

Rgs,

Topic: RE: DL 764 To DKR-JNB, GRU And EZE This Winter
Username: Cmtehori
Posted 2007-08-14 01:00:40 and read 3234 times.

Quoting Laxintl (Thread starter):
ATL-GRU (105/104) Effective Nov 27

Great news for non-revs!!! It´s almost like having the capacity of the MD-11 when it used to fly down here!
Can´t stand burning S2´s anymore!
I guess our technicians will need to be retrained! There sure will be lots of things for us to work out here in GRU!
On the other hand, when either 120 or 104 goes tech, the OCC usually cancells 120 to JFK, once it´s always a not so packed flight, which they will sure not do anymore, once 764´s fly mostly out of ATL...

Rgds
Carlos


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