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Topic: US - Mexico Traffic Data
Username: Laxintl
Posted 2007-10-02 19:42:19 and read 2238 times.

Since we have on several occasions discussed whom is the biggest, has the most flights etc.. between the markets I ran across the following 2006 market share statistics which might be of interest.

Top airlines per ASKs.
1. Mexicana 23.2%
2. Continental 14.7%
3. American 13.4%
4. Aeromexico 11.5%
5. Delta 8.9%
6. United 7.5%
6. Alaska 5.6%
7. US Airways/HP 3.3%
8. USA3000 2.0%
9. Frontier 1.6%
10.ATA 1.2%

Top airlines per weekly frequencies
1. Continental 1203
2. Mexicana 735
3. American 602
4. Aeromexico 453
5. Delta 284
6. United 196
7. Alaska 182
8. US Airways/HP 100
9. Frontier 51
10.USA3000 49

[Edited 2007-10-02 20:09:24]

Topic: RE: US - Mexico Traffic Data
Username: Juventus
Posted 2007-10-02 20:08:20 and read 2214 times.

Quoting Laxintl (Thread starter):
Top airlines per ASKs.
1. Mexicina 23.2%
2. Continental 14.7%
3. American 13.4%
4. Aeromexico 11.5%
5. Delta 8.9%
6. United 7.5%
6. Alaska 5.6%
7. US Airways/HP 3.3%
8. USA3000 2.0%
9. Frontier 1.6%
10.ATA 1.2%

Interesting numbers. Not too long ago AA was the top carrier, and now they are number 3, far behing MX and CO.

Also with all the additions out of LAX, soon DL will be a top conteder on this market.

Topic: RE: US - Mexico Traffic Data
Username: RFields5421
Posted 2007-10-02 20:11:45 and read 2205 times.

American's numbers might be skewed by the number of flights which have moved to American Eagle RJs.

If Eagle flights are reported separately.

Topic: RE: US - Mexico Traffic Data
Username: Laxintl
Posted 2007-10-02 20:36:50 and read 2173 times.

Quoting Juventus (Reply 1):
Also with all the additions out of LAX, soon DL will be a top conteder on this market.

Considering majority of DL LAX flying is with RJs and relative short distances they wont produce a flood of ASKs though they will indeed climb the ranks a bit if others dont grow either.

Quoting RFields5421 (Reply 2):
If Eagle flights are reported separately.

I believe stats are inclusive of any partner flying, as both CO, DL and AmWest also have partner RJ flights to Mexico and represent a good portion of their overall flying.

Suppose a good way to confirm is to look a the weekly frequencies and if they make sense. AA for example shows 602 which would be 86 daily flights so 43 roundtips per day to Mexico.

Sound about right?

Topic: RE: US - Mexico Traffic Data
Username: RFields5421
Posted 2007-10-02 22:08:43 and read 2131 times.

Actually it looks like the decline in AAL numbers is due to transfering almost all the LAX flights and many MIA flights to Mexicana. They are in the AAL schedule as 319 & 320 aircraft/ code shares.

Topic: RE: US - Mexico Traffic Data
Username: 747fan
Posted 2007-10-02 22:12:44 and read 2127 times.

Quoting Juventus (Reply 1):
Not too long ago AA was the top carrier, and now they are number 3, far behing MX and CO.

CO's numbers are definitely helped by their many secondary Mexico RJ routes out of IAH.

Topic: RE: US - Mexico Traffic Data
Username: Jopavon
Posted 2007-10-03 04:35:30 and read 2011 times.

Quoting RFields5421 (Reply 4):
Actually it looks like the decline in AAL numbers is due to transfering almost all the LAX flights

Not really, AA didn't have the route even before MX's code share alliance. Only UA and AS have the route on behalf of the US (Before AS, DL had it). Actually since the codeshare, AA can offer nonstops from LAX to MEX.

Topic: RE: US - Mexico Traffic Data
Username: N405MX
Posted 2007-10-03 08:35:20 and read 1969 times.

Interesting numbers, despite MX slowed their US expansion, but for the end of the year some frequencies will be added (MTY-LAX for example) and some new routes (MTY-SAT; it maybe will be operated by QA) .

Best Regards

Topic: RE: US - Mexico Traffic Data
Username: PanAm747
Posted 2007-10-03 09:17:33 and read 1969 times.

I would love to see a break-down of the numbers between the two different categories of Mexican airports - tourist locales vs. VFR flights.

  • Which segment showed the greater growth - flights to say Cancun, Puerta Vallarta, and San Jose Del Cabo, or flights to interior cities such as Morelia, Leon/El Bajio, and Guadalajara? Granted, Guadalajara is not just for VFR, but the bus connections from that city are tremendous!

  • What is the breakdown by percent and by airline of (a) business, (b) tourism, and (c) VFR on these flights?

  • Was the increase of tourism flights more from new non-hub flights like BNA-CUN? Or were the increases from hub flights?

  • What are the statistics on AM and MX services from lower-tiered cities such as Fresno and Bakersfield? And what other non-traditional locations might they be considering?

  • Is there any count of the traffic that crosses the border to use domestic Mexican airports to reach their destinations? Example: Americans crossing to use TIJ for interior flights.

    Good to see traffic continuing to increase!!

  • Topic: RE: US - Mexico Traffic Data
    Username: Juventus
    Posted 2007-10-03 18:24:22 and read 1969 times.

    Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 8):
    Which segment showed the greater growth - flights to say Cancun, Puerta Vallarta, and San Jose Del Cabo, or flights to interior cities such as Morelia, Leon/El Bajio, and Guadalajara?

    San Jose del Cabo is growing like crazy, still far behind CUN, but making strides.

    Topic: RE: US - Mexico Traffic Data
    Username: WhatUsaid
    Posted 2007-10-04 09:31:21 and read 1969 times.

    Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 8):

    What are the statistics on AM and MX services from lower-tiered cities such as Fresno and Bakersfield? And what other non-traditional locations might they be considering?

    FAT-GDL LF in July was 82.8% as compared to 88.6%, however, in 2007, they ran 4 320's and 1 319 per week; in 2006, they were running 318's and 319's, so, more total pax, slightly lower load factor. Traffic started high in 2006, loads into the upper 90's on the 318, fell significantly during the spring, now traffic is up over last year. Might be too early to tell as to what the actual patterns are for the route. Last year, they ran daily in December and early January - no sign of that happening this year, yet.

    Topic: RE: US - Mexico Traffic Data
    Username: MAH4546
    Posted 2007-10-04 10:41:25 and read 1969 times.

    Quoting RFields5421 (Reply 4):
    Actually it looks like the decline in AAL numbers is due to transfering almost all the LAX flights and many MIA flights to Mexicana.

    Huh? No it isn't.

    Before Mexicana, AA's schedule was LAX-SJD (1x summer/2x winter), MIA-MEX (3x daily), and MIA-CUN (4x daily). Since those schedules are the same, and they have added MIA-CZM (1x daily).

    Topic: RE: US - Mexico Traffic Data
    Username: EXAAUADL
    Posted 2007-10-04 11:12:23 and read 1969 times.

    Quoting Juventus (Reply 1):
    Interesting numbers. Not too long ago AA was the top carrier, and now they are number 3, far behing MX and CO

    Really???? I thought CO was always ahead of AA.

    Topic: RE: US - Mexico Traffic Data
    Username: Juventus
    Posted 2007-10-04 12:57:53 and read 1969 times.

    Quoting EXAAUADL (Reply 12):
    Really???? I thought CO was always ahead of AA.

    Nope. Many people are under the inpression that becasue CO flies to 31 Mexican airports, they dominate the market. Much of CO's Mexico flying is RJ, most of AA is mainline.


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