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Topic: Emirates Closing In On 100 Flights/Week To India
Username: LAXDESI
Posted 2007-10-28 20:39:16 and read 5175 times.

http://www.gulfnews.com/business/Aviation/10163515.html
Quotes:
Starting today, Emirates will introduce an additional daily flight to Mumbai, offering passengers a second morning departure to India's commercial hub and boosting the weekly service to 28 flights per week.

The Dubai-based airline has been steadily building up its presence in India owing to escalating demand for air travel triggered by the country's burgeoning economy. Earlier this year, Emirates enhanced its present 19-flights-per-week Mumbai service with the launch of two additional frequencies, taking the weekly total to 21 flights.

The airline also commenced a double-daily service to Chennai, and added three additional flights each to Kochi and Hyderabad.

Emirates flight EK506, an Airbus A330 aircraft offering 12 first, 42 business and 183 economy class seats, and 17 tonnes of cargo capacity per week per direction, will depart Dubai at 9:30am daily, touching down at Mumbai at 1:45pm hours. The return flight, EK507, will take off from Mumbai at 3:15pm and arrive in Dubai at 5pm.

The fourth daily service expands the current morning, afternoon and late night departures from Dubai to Mumbai. "The fourth daily flight will improve connectivity between the two commerce and trade hubs, and provide travellers with more flexible options. I am confident the new service will receive a rousing welcome from our passengers and travel trade partners."

Emirates currently operates 92 flights per week to eight Indian gateways - Mumbai, Delhi, Chennai, Hyderabad, Kochi, Thiruvananthapuram, Kolkata and Bangalore. The airline will strengthen its Indian footprint with the launch of six flights per week to Ahmedabad, effective from today.

Topic: RE: Emirates Closing In On 100 Flights/Week To India
Username: QatarA340
Posted 2007-10-28 21:48:46 and read 5080 times.

And still some A.net forumers complain and "wonder" with amazement what EK is planning to do with all those A380's!

Topic: RE: Emirates Closing In On 100 Flights/Week To India
Username: Scbriml
Posted 2007-10-29 00:51:32 and read 4929 times.

Quoting QatarA340 (Reply 1):
And still some A.net forumers complain and "wonder" with amazement what EK is planning to do with all those A380's!

Indeed they do!  wink 

Topic: RE: Emirates Closing In On 100 Flights/Week To India
Username: B747forever
Posted 2007-10-29 01:26:39 and read 4865 times.

Quoting QatarA340 (Reply 1):
And still some A.net forumers complain and "wonder" with amazement what EK is planning to do with all those A380's!

That is so right. When they gets the A380s they can put few of them to India and then they can reduce the frequency.

Topic: RE: Emirates Closing In On 100 Flights/Week To India
Username: Haan
Posted 2007-10-29 01:31:49 and read 4856 times.

Emirates is also launching its new service to Ahmedabad today

Topic: RE: Emirates Closing In On 100 Flights/Week To India
Username: B747forever
Posted 2007-10-29 01:33:18 and read 4851 times.

Quoting Haan (Reply 4):
Emirates is also launching its new service to Ahmedabad today

Hopes it will work for EK. Will they send a A330 to Ahmedabad????

Topic: RE: Emirates Closing In On 100 Flights/Week To India
Username: Haan
Posted 2007-10-29 01:36:44 and read 4839 times.

Quoting B747forever (Reply 5):

Correct A6-EAE did the flight this morning as EK539

Topic: RE: Emirates Closing In On 100 Flights/Week To India
Username: B747forever
Posted 2007-10-29 01:42:34 and read 4823 times.

Quoting Haan (Reply 6):
Correct A6-EAE did the flight this morning as EK539

Okey, thank you for the info.

Do you know what the loads was like???.

Topic: RE: Emirates Closing In On 100 Flights/Week To India
Username: AlanUK
Posted 2007-10-29 01:48:02 and read 4808 times.

Quoting LAXDESI (Thread starter):
The airline will strengthen its Indian footprint

...and its already huge carbon footprint too...  Yeah sure

But hey, as we are all doomed with the state of the planet, let's go with a bang and really heat things up.

Otherwise well done Emirates.

Topic: RE: Emirates Closing In On 100 Flights/Week To India
Username: Nimish
Posted 2007-10-29 04:03:59 and read 4649 times.

Congrats to EK and India!

There's clearly enough potential in the India market, and I'm sure EK is eagerly waiting to start non-stops to additional points in the Americas - as there's a clear market they can pick up from the India-Americas sectors.

Topic: RE: Emirates Closing In On 100 Flights/Week To India
Username: LAXDESI
Posted 2007-10-29 13:17:04 and read 4236 times.

Quoting Nimish (Reply 9):
There's clearly enough potential in the India market, and I'm sure EK is eagerly waiting to start non-stops to additional points in the Americas - as there's a clear market they can pick up from the India-Americas sectors.

Eagerly awaiting EK at LAX; will provide me another option to MAA, especially during peak season. However, LAX-BKK-MAA will remain my first choice.

Anyone know EK's plans for LAX?

Topic: RE: Emirates Closing In On 100 Flights/Week To India
Username: Ikramerica
Posted 2007-10-29 13:25:36 and read 4209 times.

Quoting QatarA340 (Reply 1):
And still some A.net forumers complain and "wonder" with amazement what EK is planning to do with all those A380's!

CO has over 80 flights a week to the british isles in the summer, yet they have no A380s on order.

Obviously they are different markets, but there is a much higher percentage of the population in those islands that have the money to fly than in India. But just counting flights alone as proof is not meaningful.

Frequency does not automatically lead to the need for 50+ VLAs + 100 777s + 100 A350/787s. Their model depends partly on driving other airlines out of business or displacing them (like SQ, for example)...

And since EK is able to expand into India without the A380s, it still doesn't quite explain where they are going to put 50+ A380s.

Topic: RE: Emirates Closing In On 100 Flights/Week To India
Username: PEET7G
Posted 2007-10-29 13:47:03 and read 4169 times.

Quoting QatarA340 (Reply 1):
And still some A.net forumers complain and "wonder" with amazement what EK is planning to do with all those A380's!

Well, I am not one of them skeptics, but from the other side everyone is forgetting all the boost Indian aviation is getting in the next years... Jet Airways already attacks with it's own product ( a product far better than EK's by the way), AI is on the dawn of launching their own reply and Kingfisher is high on it's heals to do the same... whatever EK thinks it will not be all candy from now on... And no one should forget all the other WORLD-LINER wannabees like QR, EY, GF, etc, etc, etc...

Topic: RE: Emirates Closing In On 100 Flights/Week To India
Username: Scbriml
Posted 2007-10-29 13:58:54 and read 4132 times.

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 11):
CO has over 80 flights a week to the british isles in the summer, yet they have no A380s on order.

CO operates something over 80 flights a week to the UK in peak season. EK is up to nearly 100 to India, and the growth there shows no sign of slowing. The UK has a population just over 60 million, compared to India's which is nearly 20 times as great.

Yes, far from all of them can afford to fly, but the number that can is growing massively. I am very confident that India will see a large number of A380s in operation in a few years, both from airlines flying A380s to India and the Indian airlines operating them.

Topic: RE: Emirates Closing In On 100 Flights/Week To India
Username: Aarbee
Posted 2007-10-29 15:09:50 and read 4058 times.

Quoting B747forever (Reply 5):
Hopes it will work for EK. Will they send a A330 to Ahmedabad????

I believe it is A330 5X and B777 1X.

Cheers,

R

Topic: RE: Emirates Closing In On 100 Flights/Week To India
Username: Emirates777
Posted 2007-10-29 16:29:12 and read 3981 times.

India weekly frequencies will move to 99 in February 2008, when CCU goes daily. At that point India will have the highest number of weekly frequencies on Emirates' global network. UK will be second larhave 98 (5x LHR, 3x LGW, 2x MAN, 2x BHX, 1x GLA and 1x NCL).

Another 7 weekly frequencies will be added to DEL by July 2008, while another 2 weekly flights are likely to be added to AMD. So total India frequencies will likely move closer to 108 by July 2008.

Rgds
Emirates777

Topic: RE: Emirates Closing In On 100 Flights/Week To India
Username: Tayaramecanici
Posted 2007-10-29 16:31:37 and read 3978 times.

Quoting Scbriml (Reply 13):
CO operates something over 80 flights a week to the UK in peak season. EK is up to nearly 100 to India, and the growth there shows no sign of slowing. The UK has a population just over 60 million, compared to India's which is nearly 20 times as great.

EU plans to attract 20m highly skilled immigrants over the next 25yrs. Where do you think they plan to get the majority from ? Like the NHS or London tfL or the IT industry in UK its going to be INDIA obviously. With chinese introducing ENGLISH as a compulsory language now the avg Joe Blog or rather Li King will be english speaking only 20yrs later till then it is Gandhi fron India going to man the walk-in medical centres and Utility Co operations control rooms of EU.
To transport these Polite and Efficient work force YOU WILL NEED A A380.

Topic: RE: Emirates Closing In On 100 Flights/Week To India
Username: YOWza
Posted 2007-10-30 06:57:00 and read 3776 times.

If I'm not mistaken QR is already at 44 flights a week into India. EY and GF also have decent representation in this market not to mention the Indian carriers. That is some crazy capacity.

YOWza

Topic: RE: Emirates Closing In On 100 Flights/Week To India
Username: LAXDESI
Posted 2007-10-30 09:35:06 and read 3701 times.

Quoting YOWza (Reply 17):
If I'm not mistaken QR is already at 44 flights a week into India. EY and GF also have decent representation in this market not to mention the Indian carriers. That is some crazy capacity.

I hope more is added, especially during the peak seasons. I am having a hard time finding decent prices LAX-MAA RT economy ticket for the month of December/January.

When are EK and EY coming to LAX?

Topic: RE: Emirates Closing In On 100 Flights/Week To India
Username: Mendaero
Posted 2007-10-30 19:00:10 and read 3560 times.

Quoting PEET7G (Reply 12):
CO has over 80 flights a week to the british isles in the summer, yet they have no A380s on order.

Obviously they are different markets, but there is a much higher percentage of the population in those islands that have the money to fly than in India. But just counting flights alone as proof is not meaningful.

Who cares what the percentage of the Indian population can fly, That percentage will only have to move slightly to fill those A380's, it's a huge population!.

Topic: RE: Emirates Closing In On 100 Flights/Week To India
Username: Lightsaber
Posted 2007-10-30 20:54:26 and read 3503 times.

Quoting LAXDESI (Thread starter):
Starting today, Emirates will introduce an additional daily flight to Mumbai, offering passengers a second morning departure to India's commercial hub and boosting the weekly service to 28 flights per week.

Wow! Ok, I once again lost track of the latest UAE-India bilaterals. What is EK's limit? IIRC, 120/week. However, I'm certain my information is already out of date again.

Pretty soon EK will be able to do a rolling hub at Dubai!  bigthumbsup 

Quoting QatarA340 (Reply 1):
And still some A.net forumers complain and "wonder" with amazement what EK is planning to do with all those A380's!

Certainly a number will find their way to India. However, I think they'll be used at first to cut costs Oz-London.  spin 

Quoting B747forever (Reply 3):
When they gets the A380s they can put few of them to India and then they can reduce the frequency.

Some low premium cities will certainly see that impact. High premium cities... will see no reduced frequency. So better fill those F and J seats!  Wink

Quoting Emirates777 (Reply 15):
Another 7 weekly frequencies will be added to DEL by July 2008, while another 2 weekly flights are likely to be added to AMD. So total India frequencies will likely move closer to 108 by July 2008.

wow. Again, what is the bilateral limit? I mentioned one number, but is it correct? My searches on google weren't able to find the current limit on flights nor seats.

Quoting LAXDESI (Reply 18):

I hope more is added, especially during the peak seasons. I am having a hard time finding decent prices LAX-MAA RT economy ticket for the month of December/January.

That alone will fill A380's. The shortage of business class seats from the west coast US to India is something that my friends always note. Now I know the initial A388 won't do DXB-LAX (with winds). Time for the A388R! (bigthumbsup) Not to mention a configuration with about 120 J seat.  Wink

Lightsaber

Topic: RE: Emirates Closing In On 100 Flights/Week To India
Username: LAXDESI
Posted 2007-10-30 21:08:40 and read 3489 times.

Quoting Lightsaber (Reply 20):
I once again lost track of the latest UAE-India bilaterals. What is EK's limit? IIRC, 120/week. However, I'm certain my information is already out of date again.

The DGCA site shows 10400 weekly seats, which I believe is outdated number. IIRC, they have revised the number upward.

The link for DGCA site which lists India's bilaterals is
http://dgca.nic.in/bilateral/Bilateral.pdf

Topic: RE: Emirates Closing In On 100 Flights/Week To India
Username: PEET7G
Posted 2007-10-31 00:08:47 and read 3447 times.

Quoting Mendaero (Reply 19):
Quoting PEET7G (Reply 12):
CO has over 80 flights a week to the british isles in the summer, yet they have no A380s on order.

Obviously they are different markets, but there is a much higher percentage of the population in those islands that have the money to fly than in India. But just counting flights alone as proof is not meaningful.

Who cares what the percentage of the Indian population can fly, That percentage will only have to move slightly to fill those A380's, it's a huge population!.

I think that was not me you quoted...  fight   Big grin

Topic: RE: Emirates Closing In On 100 Flights/Week To India
Username: YOWza
Posted 2007-10-31 06:50:05 and read 3345 times.

Quoting LAXDESI (Reply 18):

I hope more is added, especially during the peak seasons. I am having a hard time finding decent prices LAX-MAA RT economy ticket for the month of December/January.

Perhaps it's worth investigating LAX-YYZ-DXB-MAA? I know it's a bit of a pain in the ass but at least 4/6 legs ar EK.

YOWza

Topic: RE: Emirates Closing In On 100 Flights/Week To India
Username: LAXDESI
Posted 2007-11-01 21:44:12 and read 3181 times.

New Chennai-Dubai daily flight launched. It is in addition to the daily morning service.
This takes Emirates to 98 flights per week to India.
http://www.hindu.com/2007/11/01/stories/2007110161841200.htm

Quotes:
Emirates Airline on Wednesday announced the launch of a new daily service between Chennai and Dubai and an expansion of its India operations. The new service from Chennai, which started operating on October 28, leaves Chennai at 3.30 a.m. and reaches Dubai at 6.20 a.m. local time.

It is in addition to the daily morning service which leaves Chennai at 9.40 a.m.

%u201CThe new service will make it easier for Chennai passengers to connect to flights out of Dubai,%u201D Orhan Abbas, vice-president (India and Nepal), Emirates Airline, said. Tickets will be available at a promotional fare (return) of Rs. 12,150 for the economy class until November 30 (taxes apply for all fares).

The airline has expanded its India operations, adding 22 additional services. It now operates 98 flights every week to nine destinations in India. Three additional services have been introduced in Hyderabad and Kochi, and the airline will operate four flights a day from Mumbai. Ahmedabad has also been added to the list of its destinations.

Mr. Abbas said India was one of the airline%u2019s %u201Cbiggest growing markets,%u201D both for passenger and freight traffic. It operates with a load factor of 80-85 per cent on its India flights throughout the year. The West Asia and Indian Ocean market accounts for 18.6 per cent of its global passenger traffic, as well as 8.9 per cent of its global revenues.

Topic: RE: Emirates Closing In On 100 Flights/Week To India
Username: Lightsaber
Posted 2007-11-02 07:20:46 and read 3073 times.

Quoting LAXDESI (Reply 21):
The DGCA site shows 10400 weekly seats, which I believe is outdated number.

I really hope they're no longer limited to 100 seats a plane!  bigthumbsup 

My googling for the latest bilateral turned up Abu-Dhabi's, but not Dubai's. I'm way too curious as to what the bilateral currently is. I recall seeing an update to a new weekly flight limit sans seat limit... but that is from a vague memory...

Lightsaber

Topic: RE: Emirates Closing In On 100 Flights/Week To India
Username: Emirates777
Posted 2007-11-02 09:07:54 and read 3052 times.

Lighsaber

The India bilateral between Dubai and India, as pertaining to Emirates is as follows:
-Effective Winter schedule, ie. end of October 2007, the seat capacity is for 26,700 seats.
-Effective Summer schedule, ie. beginning of April 2008, the seat capacity will rise to 28,200 seats.
-There is a further increase permitted from beginning of July 2008, taking the seat capacity to 29,100 seats.

A 2% band is allowed on these limits to enable operational flexibility.

If you want route by route seat capacity limits let me know.

You will likely see Emirates being granted more capacity in 12 months time, and additional destinations.

Rgds
Emirates777

Topic: RE: Emirates Closing In On 100 Flights/Week To India
Username: Robbie86
Posted 2007-11-02 09:32:00 and read 3023 times.

What kind of equipment will/does EK use on DXB-MAA?

Topic: RE: Emirates Closing In On 100 Flights/Week To India
Username: Tennis69
Posted 2007-11-02 10:02:51 and read 3003 times.

It takes that many flights a week to supply the labor force to do all the work in the UAE and other Gulf countries. The pax are not paying for the seats, their hiring agents are. It will take the pax over 2 years to pay back the recruiting and travel fees, then he can send money to his family.


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