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Topic: Comair Removing Wording From Aircraft
Username: Delta11
Posted 2007-12-07 06:44:03 and read 8376 times.

Hello,

I heard that Comair is removing some of the wording Comair from its aircraft. In question is the Comair logo on the boarding doors of the RJ's.

Does anyone know why?

Thanks

Topic: RE: Comair Removing Wording From Aircraft
Username: Splitz
Posted 2007-12-07 06:52:34 and read 8340 times.

Interesting, I'd be interested to know as well.

Unless Comair is preparing to return the aircraft to the lessor?

Topic: RE: Comair Removing Wording From Aircraft
Username: Goldenshield
Posted 2007-12-07 07:37:23 and read 8201 times.

By law, they have to have the name of the operator on the aircraft for revenue service. So, if they are removing the name, then they are also removing them from service.

Topic: RE: Comair Removing Wording From Aircraft
Username: AvConsultant
Posted 2007-12-07 07:55:09 and read 8111 times.



Quoting Goldenshield (Reply 2):
By law, they have to have the name of the operator on the aircraft for revenue service. So, if they are removing the name, then they are also removing them from service.

Comair is parking the -100/200 as the -900 arrive.

Some airlines stencil their name around the nose gear door. Comair has been for sale, they could be removing their name as they paint the aircraft for a pending sale. I have not seen how the DCI carriers identify themselves in the new livery.

Topic: RE: Comair Removing Wording From Aircraft
Username: Dbo861
Posted 2007-12-07 08:55:01 and read 7866 times.

The Comair name is still on the outside of the aircraft, but it's becoming much smaller as the aircraft are getting repainted in the new Delta colors.. Also, there used to be a sign that had the Comair logo in the back of the cabin back by the lavatory which has been removed in each of the aircraft. It seems Delta is trying to make Delta Connection seem like it's all one brand which is not operated by 15 different airlines.

Quoting AvConsultant (Reply 3):
Comair is parking the -100/200 as the -900 arrive.

Remember, they're only parking the 50 seaters one for one as the -900s arrive. As of now, Comair is only slated to be getting rid of 14 of the 50s.

Topic: RE: Comair Removing Wording From Aircraft
Username: Pilotboi
Posted 2007-12-07 08:57:23 and read 7855 times.



Quoting Dbo861 (Reply 4):
15 different airlines.

There's only 9.

Topic: RE: Comair Removing Wording From Aircraft
Username: Dbo861
Posted 2007-12-07 09:02:56 and read 7815 times.



Quoting Pilotboi (Reply 5):
There's only 9.

Wow, only too you 2 mins 22 seconds to jump all over that one. I was trying to exaggerate a little bit. It's funny how you say "there's only 9" as if that's not a lot.

Topic: RE: Comair Removing Wording From Aircraft
Username: EMBQA
Posted 2007-12-07 09:06:49 and read 7792 times.



Quoting Pilotboi (Reply 5):
There's only 9

What happened to the 'good old' days of just 4......???

ASA
Business Express
Comair
Skywest

Topic: RE: Comair Removing Wording From Aircraft
Username: Pilotboi
Posted 2007-12-07 09:21:38 and read 7711 times.



Quoting Dbo861 (Reply 6):
Wow, only too you 2 mins 22 seconds to jump all over that one. I was trying to exaggerate a little bit. It's funny how you say "there's only 9" as if that's not a lot.

LOL, Well I just happened to read it right after you posted it. I figured you were being sarcastic, but I think it would have been more effective if you said 30 instead of 15.  Silly Yeah, only 9 - but the only part was in reference to comparing the 9 to 15, as I wasn't completly positive that you were being sarcatic.

Topic: RE: Comair Removing Wording From Aircraft
Username: DAL767400ER
Posted 2007-12-07 09:25:20 and read 7691 times.



Quoting EMBQA (Reply 7):
What happened to the 'good old' days of just 4......???

Comair pilot strike in 2001 that pretty much fvcked up CVG for days leading DL to have multiple DCI carriers at one hub instead of just one, and the overall desire to get as many additional RJs as possible at the lowest price possible.

Topic: RE: Comair Removing Wording From Aircraft
Username: Bond007
Posted 2007-12-07 09:26:03 and read 7679 times.



Quoting EMBQA (Reply 7):
What happened to the 'good old' days of just 4......???

What happened to the 'good old' days of an airline being ONE airline???


Jimbo

Topic: RE: Comair Removing Wording From Aircraft
Username: EMBQA
Posted 2007-12-07 09:34:41 and read 7623 times.



Quoting Bond007 (Reply 10):
What happened to the 'good old' days of an airline being ONE airline???

Yea... that too....!! But at that time all four only flew for Delta. There was no mulit-code share.

Topic: RE: Comair Removing Wording From Aircraft
Username: Pilotboi
Posted 2007-12-07 09:36:11 and read 7611 times.



Quoting Bond007 (Reply 10):
What happened to the 'good old' days of an airline being ONE airline???

I was just thinking about that the other day. It's become a pretty standard thing nowadays, at least in the US.

CHANGE IS...

Topic: RE: Comair Removing Wording From Aircraft
Username: ADXMatt
Posted 2007-12-07 09:52:56 and read 7534 times.



Quoting Goldenshield (Reply 2):
By law, they have to have the name of the operator on the aircraft for revenue service

They are required to have the airline name (i.e. Comair) painted next to the boarding doorway. That is unless the aircraft is clearly painted as Comair. If it looks like Delta or says Delta Connection or the like it must state the operating airlines name at the boarding door.

I am sure it is there on a sticker or the FAA would ground the A/C.

Topic: RE: Comair Removing Wording From Aircraft
Username: Goldenshield
Posted 2007-12-07 10:48:03 and read 7354 times.



Quoting ADXMatt (Reply 13):
They are required to have the airline name (i.e. Comair) painted next to the boarding doorway.

I can't find the regulation at the moment, but it states to the effect "The name of the operating carrier must be visible on the outside of aircraft by bystanders." This could be a sticker by the door, or painted on the engines (such as Expressjet's case.) Either way, the name MUST be there for legal operation.

Topic: RE: Comair Removing Wording From Aircraft
Username: N766UA
Posted 2007-12-07 10:50:37 and read 7340 times.

By the boarding door? You mean on the nose? There's nothing on or even near the boarding door that mentions Comair, at least not on the wavy gravy schemes. They usually have the "United We Stand" sticker next to the door, but that's it.

Topic: RE: Comair Removing Wording From Aircraft
Username: Alitalia744
Posted 2007-12-07 11:26:39 and read 7240 times.

I presume this topic is regarding the "Comair" logo that was placed near the forward portion of the fuselage on Comair's (and ASA/SkyWest) birds:


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As part of the rebrand and desire to drive some sort of consistency in brand communication to consumers, the sizing of the logo has been reduced on newly painted birds..


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Topic: RE: Comair Removing Wording From Aircraft
Username: Jetblueguy22
Posted 2007-12-07 12:46:49 and read 6908 times.

Wow I didn't even realize they were required to have the operators name on the aircraft. The saying you learn something new every day is true yet again!

Topic: RE: Comair Removing Wording From Aircraft
Username: Bobprobert95
Posted 2007-12-07 13:13:44 and read 6595 times.

Living and flying out of CVG blow's! The CRJ 100/200's suck! The window at your crotch is a joke.

JB

Topic: RE: Comair Removing Wording From Aircraft
Username: Pilotboi
Posted 2007-12-07 13:17:13 and read 6534 times.



Quoting Alitalia744 (Reply 16):
As part of the rebrand and desire to drive some sort of consistency in brand communication to consumers, the sizing of the logo has been reduced on newly painted birds..

And Freedom and Pinnacle don't really even have logos, just text: "Operated by Freedom Airlines, Inc"

Also, has anyone ever seen the logo/name on Big Sky's newly painted aircraft? The only pic in the database is from the right side only, so I'm guessing there is just a small logo on the left side, near the door. Anyone know of a pic of it?

Topic: RE: Comair Removing Wording From Aircraft
Username: DTWAGENT
Posted 2007-12-07 17:44:20 and read 4627 times.

I thought I just read in Airliners, that Comair is parking 2 CRJ100/200's per 1 CRJ -900 that is delivered. I also read this in a trade mag. for travel agents? Is this true or is it 1 on 1 ?

Chuck

Topic: RE: Comair Removing Wording From Aircraft
Username: Caspian27
Posted 2007-12-07 20:23:54 and read 3781 times.

SkyWest was told recently to remover it's in-house magazine from the DCI aircraft.

Topic: RE: Comair Removing Wording From Aircraft
Username: Threepoint
Posted 2007-12-07 21:03:53 and read 3579 times.



Quoting Bobprobert95 (Reply 18):
The window at your crotch is a joke.

Bob, how exactly do you sit? I bet the rampers aren't laughing as you wave your bits & pieces out the window at them.

Topic: RE: Comair Removing Wording From Aircraft
Username: Pilotboi
Posted 2007-12-07 23:42:47 and read 3080 times.



Quoting Caspian27 (Reply 21):
SkyWest was told recently to remover it's in-house magazine from the DCI aircraft.

ASA has removed theirs as well.

Topic: RE: Comair Removing Wording From Aircraft
Username: CVG2LGA
Posted 2007-12-08 02:19:10 and read 2739 times.



Quoting Dbo861 (Reply 4):
Some airlines stencil their name around the nose gear door. Comair has been for sale, they could be removing their name as they paint the aircraft for a pending sale. I have not seen how the DCI carriers identify themselves in the new livery.

We aren't up for sale just yet!!

The logos are just smaller in the new scheme and under the cockpit windows.
Tchau
DA-


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