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Topic: 2 Philippine Airlines A340s Tonight At SFO
Username: AASuper83
Posted 2007-12-21 22:09:40 and read 3648 times.

Drove by SFO tonight and there were 2 A340s there at the same time. Any reason for that?

Topic: RE: 2 Philippine Airlines A340s Tonight At SFO
Username: Leamside
Posted 2007-12-21 22:42:26 and read 3609 times.

2 PAL flights every Friday and Sunday this season.

Usually it is a 747 & A-340. However, two 340s is not really unusual.

Topic: RE: 2 Philippine Airlines A340s Tonight At SFO
Username: Jasp25
Posted 2007-12-21 22:48:49 and read 3593 times.



Quoting AASuper83 (Thread starter):
Drove by SFO tonight and there were 2 A340s there at the same time. Any reason for that?

That's weird. Per schedule, PR105 is a 747-400. See: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/PAL105

-jasp

Topic: RE: 2 Philippine Airlines A340s Tonight At SFO
Username: AASuper83
Posted 2007-12-21 23:54:53 and read 3533 times.



Quoting Jasp25 (Reply 2):

That's weird. Per schedule, PR105 is a 747-400.

Perhaps it was a 744. My bad. Traffic was heavy, and I saw one PAL 340 at the gate, and just a tail sticking out from behind the overpass.

I stand corrected, and I didn't know PAL came that often on Fridays and Sundays.

Thanks guys.

Topic: RE: 2 Philippine Airlines A340s Tonight At SFO
Username: COSPN
Posted 2007-12-22 02:56:44 and read 3413 times.

I Guess GUM sees more PAL aircraft each day than any other airport besides MNL !!!!!!!!!

Topic: RE: 2 Philippine Airlines A340s Tonight At SFO
Username: AS739X
Posted 2007-12-22 08:32:47 and read 3269 times.

It very well could have been 2 A340's. As Leam said, this is their schedule on FR/SU. They did have a day time flight last week as well, but can't remember the day. Its the holidays and your going to see some weird schedule changes and equipment changes. Specially with PR!

ASSFO

Topic: RE: 2 Philippine Airlines A340s Tonight At SFO
Username: Tundra767
Posted 2007-12-22 10:38:42 and read 3204 times.

Was a 744 and A340 in SFO last night 12/21.

Topic: RE: 2 Philippine Airlines A340s Tonight At SFO
Username: Leamside
Posted 2007-12-22 16:57:21 and read 3031 times.



Quoting AS739X (Reply 5):
They did have a day time flight last week as well, but can't remember the day.

That was last Tuesday's special flight PR904/905 from MNL & back to MNL via GUM. One of PAL's 747 needed maintenance in MNL and the regular PR104/105 that night was cancelled.

There have been several PR904 & 905 flights to SFO this year and in the past. Examples: http://www.pbase.com/philippineaviation/prsfo_rnwy_19l_landing
http://www.pbase.com/philippineaviation/pr905_sfomnl
http://www.pbase.com/philippineaviation/pr904__pr905_n753pr_mar_2_2005

Quoting Jasp25 (Reply 2):
That's weird. Per schedule, PR105 is a 747-400

Often a 747 is scheduled but it isn't unusual for the plane type to be substituted by a 340.

Topic: RE: 2 Philippine Airlines A340s Tonight At SFO
Username: RoseFlyer
Posted 2007-12-22 19:13:53 and read 2962 times.

Do both the A340 and 747 flight stop in GUM? I wouldn't think both would need refueling stops. The 747 has plenty of range for that route.

Topic: RE: 2 Philippine Airlines A340s Tonight At SFO
Username: Malaysia
Posted 2007-12-22 21:56:06 and read 2873 times.



Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 8):
The 747 has plenty of range for that route.

not with Balikbayan Boxes. possibly if PR did a 2 check-in embargo and no boxes allowed, perhaps they could eliminate stops.

Topic: RE: 2 Philippine Airlines A340s Tonight At SFO
Username: COSPN
Posted 2007-12-22 22:10:46 and read 2864 times.

They ALWAYS stop in GUM this time a year

Topic: RE: 2 Philippine Airlines A340s Tonight At SFO
Username: LurveBus
Posted 2007-12-23 04:28:05 and read 2764 times.



Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 8):
The 747 has plenty of range for that route.



Quoting Malaysia (Reply 9):
not with Balikbayan Boxes. possibly if PR did a 2 check-in embargo and no boxes allowed, perhaps they could eliminate stops.

Aside from the Balikbayan boxes, winds are pretty tough this time of year, even CX and SQ sometimes make tech stops in ICN on their way back to HKG from the west coast.

That, and PR stuffs 433 passengers in their 747s.

Topic: RE: 2 Philippine Airlines A340s Tonight At SFO
Username: StrandedInBGM
Posted 2007-12-23 08:26:15 and read 2689 times.



Quoting LurveBus (Reply 11):
Balikbayan boxes

Huh?

Topic: RE: 2 Philippine Airlines A340s Tonight At SFO
Username: Tundra767
Posted 2007-12-23 08:29:45 and read 2688 times.

A Balikbayan Box (literally returnee's box) is a cardboard box containing novelty items brought by or sent by a Filipino that is returning to the Philippines from a foreign country.These boxes contain non-perishable food items, canned goods, other food items, toiletries, household and kitchen stuffs, time saving devices, computer parts, electronics, toys, designer clothing, personal items, and hard to find items in the Philippines.

(Source Wikipedia )

Topic: RE: 2 Philippine Airlines A340s Tonight At SFO
Username: JAGflyer
Posted 2007-12-23 09:02:37 and read 2659 times.

An embargo on Balikbayan boxes on PR would be like an embargo on skiis for flights into DEN. It just cannot happen!

Topic: RE: 2 Philippine Airlines A340s Tonight At SFO
Username: AirlineAddict
Posted 2007-12-23 11:03:16 and read 2610 times.

More importantly, the Balikbayan boxes are more often than not at the maximum allowed weight, 70 pounds. In fact, some of those boxes are a little over 70 pounds... They try to cram as much of America as possible into the box.  boxedin 
 duck 

[Edited 2007-12-23 11:04:21]

Topic: RE: 2 Philippine Airlines A340s Tonight At SFO
Username: Jasp25
Posted 2007-12-23 11:44:47 and read 2592 times.



Quoting JAGflyer (Reply 14):
An embargo on Balikbayan boxes on PR would be like an embargo on skiis for flights into DEN. It just cannot happen!

That is a good comparison!

-jasp


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