Drove by SFO tonight and there were 2 A340s there at the same time. Any reason for that?

2 PAL flights every Friday and Sunday this season.

Usually it is a 747 & A-340. However, two 340s is not really unusual.

Quoting AASuper83 (Thread starter): Drove by SFO tonight and there were 2 A340s there at the same time. Any reason for that?

That's weird. Per schedule, PR105 is a 747-400. See: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/PAL105

-jasp

Quoting Jasp25 (Reply 2): That's weird. Per schedule, PR105 is a 747-400.

Perhaps it was a 744. My bad. Traffic was heavy, and I saw one PAL 340 at the gate, and just a tail sticking out from behind the overpass.

I stand corrected, and I didn't know PAL came that often on Fridays and Sundays.

Thanks guys.

I Guess GUM sees more PAL aircraft each day than any other airport besides MNL !!!!!!!!!

It very well could have been 2 A340's. As Leam said, this is their schedule on FR/SU. They did have a day time flight last week as well, but can't remember the day. Its the holidays and your going to see some weird schedule changes and equipment changes. Specially with PR!

ASSFO

Was a 744 and A340 in SFO last night 12/21.

Quoting AS739X (Reply 5): They did have a day time flight last week as well, but can't remember the day.

That was last Tuesday's special flight PR904/905 from MNL & back to MNL via GUM. One of PAL's 747 needed maintenance in MNL and the regular PR104/105 that night was cancelled.

There have been several PR904 & 905 flights to SFO this year and in the past. Examples: http://www.pbase.com/philippineaviation/prsfo_rnwy_19l_landing
http://www.pbase.com/philippineaviation/pr905_sfomnl
http://www.pbase.com/philippineaviation/pr904__pr905_n753pr_mar_2_2005

Quoting Jasp25 (Reply 2): That's weird. Per schedule, PR105 is a 747-400

Often a 747 is scheduled but it isn't unusual for the plane type to be substituted by a 340.

Do both the A340 and 747 flight stop in GUM? I wouldn't think both would need refueling stops. The 747 has plenty of range for that route.

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 8): The 747 has plenty of range for that route.

not with Balikbayan Boxes. possibly if PR did a 2 check-in embargo and no boxes allowed, perhaps they could eliminate stops.

They ALWAYS stop in GUM this time a year

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 8): The 747 has plenty of range for that route.

Quoting Malaysia (Reply 9): not with Balikbayan Boxes. possibly if PR did a 2 check-in embargo and no boxes allowed, perhaps they could eliminate stops.

Aside from the Balikbayan boxes, winds are pretty tough this time of year, even CX and SQ sometimes make tech stops in ICN on their way back to HKG from the west coast.

That, and PR stuffs 433 passengers in their 747s.

Quoting LurveBus (Reply 11): Balikbayan boxes

Huh?

A Balikbayan Box (literally returnee's box) is a cardboard box containing novelty items brought by or sent by a Filipino that is returning to the Philippines from a foreign country.These boxes contain non-perishable food items, canned goods, other food items, toiletries, household and kitchen stuffs, time saving devices, computer parts, electronics, toys, designer clothing, personal items, and hard to find items in the Philippines.

(Source Wikipedia )

An embargo on Balikbayan boxes on PR would be like an embargo on skiis for flights into DEN. It just cannot happen!

More importantly, the Balikbayan boxes are more often than not at the maximum allowed weight, 70 pounds. In fact, some of those boxes are a little over 70 pounds... They try to cram as much of America as possible into the box.   
  

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Quoting JAGflyer (Reply 14): An embargo on Balikbayan boxes on PR would be like an embargo on skiis for flights into DEN. It just cannot happen!

That is a good comparison!

-jasp