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Topic: Future Of The A340-200 (continued)
Username: KochamLOT
Posted 2008-01-21 08:41:01 and read 4438 times.

Where have all the a342s gone? I remember Lufthansa flying them for a short while. Are they just not economical for a plane that can carry a limited max. # of pax? I dont know. I was not able to reply to previous topics so im starting a new one for me and for other A342 fans.

Topic: RE: Future Of The A340-200 (continued)
Username: United Airline
Posted 2008-01-21 08:47:23 and read 4410 times.

Which airlines are still operating the A 340-200?

Topic: RE: Future Of The A340-200 (continued)
Username: Andz
Posted 2008-01-21 08:48:51 and read 4403 times.

SAA have a couple. Air Mauritius?

Topic: RE: Future Of The A340-200 (continued)
Username: Stitch
Posted 2008-01-21 08:56:00 and read 4354 times.



Quoting KochamLOT (Thread starter):
Are they just not economical for a plane that can carry a limited max. # of pax?

Pretty much. She's squeezed between the better economics of the A330-200 and the better capacity of the A340-300.

Topic: RE: Future Of The A340-200 (continued)
Username: NorthStarDC4M
Posted 2008-01-21 09:04:31 and read 4290 times.

Lufthansa's went to South African

And really the A340-300E/X killed the -200. Same range as the -200 with more payload. The -200 is just a short bodied -300 now, so no real purpose to it.

Topic: RE: Future Of The A340-200 (continued)
Username: YOWza
Posted 2008-01-21 09:05:42 and read 4290 times.



Quoting United Airline (Reply 1):
Which airlines are still operating the A 340-200?

I believe SA, RJ, AR, MS and UX are still operating the 200.

Quoting Andz (Reply 2):
Air Mauritius?

I think they only have 300s.

There are a few VIP/Gov operators. Qatar Amiri Flight, Gov of Egypt, Saudi Royal Flight, The French Air Force (This may be a 213X). The Kingodn of Jordan has one that is being replaced by a different 340 any day now.

YOWza

Topic: RE: Future Of The A340-200 (continued)
Username: KochamLOT
Posted 2008-01-21 09:20:57 and read 4190 times.

air comet too i think

Topic: RE: Future Of The A340-200 (continued)
Username: A342
Posted 2008-01-21 09:27:38 and read 4151 times.



Quoting KochamLOT (Thread starter):
Where have all the a342s gone?

They are happily flying around the world.  Smile

Quoting KochamLOT (Thread starter):
I remember Lufthansa flying them for a short while.

Well, I'd say about ten years isn't exactly a short period.  Wink

Quoting KochamLOT (Thread starter):
Are they just not economical for a plane that can carry a limited max. # of pax? I dont know.

The A342 is still an economical aircraft with a rather low fuel burn. But of course, for most routes, the A332 is enough. However, on longer flights, the A342 can make money.

Quoting NorthStarDC4M (Reply 4):
And really the A340-300E/X killed the -200. Same range as the -200 with more payload. The -200 is just a short bodied -300 now, so no real purpose to it.

There's also the A340-213(X), which has the same MTOW as the -300X, and thus can fly longer legs.

Quoting YOWza (Reply 5):
I believe SA, RJ, AR, MS and UX are still operating the 200.

IIRC UX got rid of it (them?). Conviasa has got one.

Quoting YOWza (Reply 5):
Quoting Andz (Reply 2):
Air Mauritius?

I think they only have 300s.

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Quoting YOWza (Reply 5):
There are a few VIP/Gov operators. Qatar Amiri Flight, Gov of Egypt, Saudi Royal Flight, The French Air Force (This may be a 213X).

Add Brunei's Sultan's Flight to the list. The French AF examples are -211s.

Topic: RE: Future Of The A340-200 (continued)
Username: JakTrax
Posted 2008-01-21 09:51:14 and read 4040 times.

The only airlines to take delivery of -200s in 1993 (IIRC) were AF and LH. I also remember SN having them shortly after but I'm positive they were leased from AF.

Current operators are (in no particular order):

Afriqiyah
SAA
Saudi MOD
French AF
Egyptair
Royal Jordanian
Qatar Amiri
Conviasa
Egyptian Government
Aerolineas Argentinas
Kingdom Holding
Brunei Sultan's Flight

Previous operators are:

Lufthansa
Air France
AOM
Cathay Pacific
Sabena
Austrian
Air Europa
Air Tahiti Nui

Karl

Topic: RE: Future Of The A340-200 (continued)
Username: A342
Posted 2008-01-21 09:53:19 and read 4029 times.



Quoting JakTrax (Reply 8):
Previous operators are:

Add Air Bourbon to that list.

Topic: RE: Future Of The A340-200 (continued)
Username: UAL747
Posted 2008-01-21 10:15:11 and read 3923 times.



Quoting JakTrax (Reply 8):
Afriqiyah
SAA
Saudi MOD
French AF
Egyptair
Royal Jordanian
Qatar Amiri
Conviasa
Egyptian Government
Aerolineas Argentinas
Kingdom Holding
Brunei Sultan's Flight

Thos are mostly privately/government owned aircraft. How many A342's were developed and put into the market? How many are parked?

I've noticed a decline in the pics on a.net of A340's as well. Are they slowly fading away and no one is noticing?

Finally, how many A343's does VS still have compared to the max number they had at one time? Seems like I never see any pics of them, only the A346's now.

UAL

Topic: RE: Future Of The A340-200 (continued)
Username: A342
Posted 2008-01-21 12:46:54 and read 3645 times.



Quoting UAL747 (Reply 10):
Thos are mostly privately/government owned aircraft.

No. 19 airline and 8 government/VIP aircraft.

Quoting UAL747 (Reply 10):
How many A342's were developed and put into the market?

28.

Quoting UAL747 (Reply 10):
How many are parked?

None. One was destroyed in a hangar fire back in 1994, the rest is still in service.

Quoting UAL747 (Reply 10):
Are they slowly fading away and no one is noticing?

No.

Quoting UAL747 (Reply 10):
Seems like I never see any pics of them, only the A346's now.

That's because the A346s are replacing them. Try VK.

Topic: RE: Future Of The A340-200 (continued)
Username: JoeCattoli
Posted 2008-01-21 13:10:04 and read 3563 times.



Quoting KochamLOT (Reply 6):
air comet too i think

Never had I think, Just early production -300s

Quoting YOWza (Reply 5):
(This may be a 213X).

No, but I remember Brunei Sultan's flight 2nd A342 was a -200X and I seem to remember they sold it.. someone has any news on this airframe?

Quoting UAL747 (Reply 10):
Finally, how many A343's does VS still have compared to the max number they had at one time? Seems like I never see any pics of them, only the A346's now.

They still have 6:
3 -300s (2nd and 3rd A340 ever built included)
3 -300X

They had 4 more -300s, 2 are with Air Comet, 1 with Finnair and 1 is goin to Iberia (I think this one is the one that had a tail strike and was then flying with BWIA... wasn't it supposed to be the 1st A340 to be scrapped? I'm sure glad this shouldn't happen)

Ciao
Joe

Topic: RE: Future Of The A340-200 (continued)
Username: Thorben
Posted 2008-01-21 13:34:53 and read 3477 times.

Interestingly enough, there is the rumor the the Russian airline Rossiya is to get five of them this or next year.
Future Of Russian Airports And Airlines? (by Thorben Jan 20 2008 in Civil Aviation)

Topic: RE: Future Of The A340-200 (continued)
Username: RJ111
Posted 2008-01-21 13:41:51 and read 3453 times.



Quoting KochamLOT (Thread starter):
Are they just not economical for a plane that can carry a limited max.

The problem is they offer essentially no advantage over a modern A340-300. The difference in OEW is about 1%.


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