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Topic: Last Days Of Aeropostal Alas De Venezuela?
Username: Cybergus
Posted 2007-12-18 14:44:41 and read 8696 times.

Hi A.Netters.

The news are coming out and i'm really confused. It seems that Aeropostal (VH) is facing their final days around. Today an employees strike hit the company, leaving 12 flights on the ground. This days as you might now are critical for a lot of people who are trying to spend a few days out for Christmas and this strike is leaving a lot of passengers in CCS and the other cities that VH serves.

In the other hand INAC (The Venezuelan aeronautical institute) is managing the possibility of closing them, getting backed up with a lot of claims from the passengers. They are pretty screwed up because their reputation had become pretty bad from last year. According to the press they used to have a fleet of 22 planes and now they are managing to operate with only 3 aircraft. The INAC is waiting for a response until Jan 4th and then they will deliberate the faith of VH in the following 15 days.

Here are the articles (Only in Spanish):
http://www.volarenvenezuela.com/vev/...hp?name=News&file=article&sid=2238
http://www.volarenvenezuela.com/vev/...hp?name=News&file=article&sid=2233

Hope this get under control soon or we will see the death of another airline.

Cheers

Tavo

Topic: RE: Last Days Of Aeropostal Alas De Venezuela?
Username: A300AA
Posted 2007-12-18 14:56:45 and read 8675 times.

What a problem, a Strike during this Holiday season.

Topic: RE: Last Days Of Aeropostal Alas De Venezuela?
Username: Luisde8cd
Posted 2007-12-18 15:03:44 and read 8669 times.

Well I just hope that VH finally dies, we (venezuelan pax) deserve better than this. This strike action by the employees is basically a harikiri which will result in VH's demise. I also hope that S3 gets VH's rights to MIA from both VLN and CCS and that all VH employees will quickly find new and better jobs in other airlines.

Saludos,
Luis

Topic: RE: Last Days Of Aeropostal Alas De Venezuela?
Username: 797
Posted 2007-12-18 16:29:54 and read 8622 times.

Not impressed at all... It was time that someone did something about the insane management VH has been experiencing. One of my friends got his flight to PMV delayed for almost 24hrs... is that acceptable at all?

Let's wait to see what will happen.

Cheers

Topic: RE: Last Days Of Aeropostal Alas De Venezuela?
Username: Rleiro
Posted 2007-12-18 16:34:44 and read 8621 times.

Sad news indeed. This is the last Venezuelan legacy carrier that stills operating. However, their service is pretty bad and the constant delays due to a poor management will eventually lead the airline to cease operations.

Regards,

Roberto.

Topic: RE: Last Days Of Aeropostal Alas De Venezuela?
Username: Orl777
Posted 2007-12-18 19:32:27 and read 8544 times.

Well Things is getting worse for VH, because of all the Problems that the Airline have inside, maybe we are in the last month of operation of this historic Venezuelan Airline

Topic: RE: Last Days Of Aeropostal Alas De Venezuela?
Username: MAH4546
Posted 2007-12-18 20:11:52 and read 8533 times.

This is unfortunate.

Traffic between Miami and Venezuela is at absolute record levels (in October, Aeropostal's MIA traffic was up 116% and Santa Barbara was up 68%), but Aeropostal is falling apart, partly at fault, it seems, of the Venezuelan government.

And the sad fact is that this might leave Valencia without service to the U.S. for a while, because neither Venezuela or the U.S. are approving new flights between the two countries. Two airlines - American and Avior - have MIA-VLN applications "on hold." Santa Barbara does not have the rights to fly MIA-VLN. They only have the rights to MIA-CCS, FLL-CCS, and MIA-MAR. The Venezuelan government is also stopping Spirit from FLL-CCS and American Eagle from SDQ-CCS and SJU-PMV. And, in return, that means the U.S. isn't allowing Avior to start not only MIA-VLN, but MIA-PMV and MIA-CGU (which they hope to start in February, but likely won't get approved for).

[Edited 2007-12-18 20:15:09]

Topic: RE: Last Days Of Aeropostal Alas De Venezuela?
Username: Luisde8cd
Posted 2007-12-19 00:31:33 and read 8467 times.



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 6):
MIA-CGU

Hey Mark what airport is CGU?

Saludos,
Luis

Topic: RE: Last Days Of Aeropostal Alas De Venezuela?
Username: Ogre727
Posted 2007-12-19 01:00:19 and read 8457 times.

Ahhh.... What a pity. My first flight on a DC9 was in Aeropostal in August 1976 (I was 4 months old). It is a pity that they go. I was never really impressed by their service, but as I grow older, it makes me sad to see many airlines I flew as a child gone (Pan Am, Viasa, Eastern, Avensa, Aeropostal, Swissair).

Topic: RE: Last Days Of Aeropostal Alas De Venezuela?
Username: Venezuela747
Posted 2007-12-19 09:15:18 and read 8359 times.



Quoting Luisde8cd (Reply 7):


Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 6):
MIA-CGU

Hey Mark what airport is CGU?

Saludos,
Luis

I think he means PZO....Puerto Ordaz or Ciudad Guayana. I had read something about that, with the renovations done to the terminal and the new runway. It had been proposed for avior to start a MAO-PZO flight along with looking into a PZO-USA flight sometime in February 08 or so.

Topic: RE: Last Days Of Aeropostal Alas De Venezuela?
Username: MAH4546
Posted 2007-12-19 09:21:48 and read 8353 times.



Quoting Venezuela747 (Reply 9):
I think he means PZO....Puerto Ordaz or Ciudad Guayana. I had read something about that, with the renovations done to the terminal and the new runway. It had been proposed for avior to start a MAO-PZO flight along with looking into a PZO-USA flight sometime in February 08 or so.

Correct. Avior plans to launch MIA-PZO non-stops on 14FEB08. Of course, if Venezuela doesn't approva AA MIA-VLN and NK FLL-CCS, US DOT will not approve MIA-PZO for Avior.

Topic: RE: Last Days Of Aeropostal Alas De Venezuela?
Username: Cybergus
Posted 2007-12-19 10:10:11 and read 8311 times.

As MAH4546 said VH had one of their best records in the CCS-MIA route. Miami is such a collapsed market for Venezuelans. All the flights are full until the end of January, in fact LA had opened another frequencies which have been already sold out. This is completely out of the hands of the current airlines, i mean all the flights are full including the flights that have a stopover (CM, TA, DL, CO, AV, MX). So what is the solution? i think that the INAC and FAA should start their approval for NK FLL-CCS, AA MIA-VLN, 9V VLN/PZO-MIA so in that way relax a little bit the chaos situation on the route.

Now with this VH situation the panorama got worse...now the passengers that had their tickets with VH to MIA had to figure out how will they arrive to their destination. I think that VH opened a special flight for those who got stranded on CCS but i didn't find any article or proof about it.

Tavo

Topic: RE: Last Days Of Aeropostal Alas De Venezuela?
Username: MAH4546
Posted 2007-12-19 10:28:51 and read 8294 times.



Quoting Cybergus (Reply 11):
As MAH4546 said VH had one of their best records in the CCS-MIA route. Miami is such a collapsed market for Venezuelans. All the flights are full until the end of January, in fact LA had opened another frequencies which have been already sold out. This is completely out of the hands of the current airlines, i mean all the flights are full including the flights that have a stopover (CM, TA, DL, CO, AV, MX). So what is the solution? i think that the INAC and FAA should start their approval for NK FLL-CCS, AA MIA-VLN, 9V VLN/PZO-MIA so in that way relax a little bit the chaos situation on the route.

Yup. Plus AA is doing their best to schedule larger planes to Caracas (no more 738s, just 757s and A300s right now) and is considering switching MIA-MAR to an A300 flight in the spring. And Santa Barbara is now using 763s to Miami on a scheduled basis to handle the demand. Miami-Venezuela has absolutely exploded, although demand between Venezuela and the rest of the country has absolutely collapsed (sans San Juan), and Miami is now accounting for nearly 75% of USA-Venezuela traffic, when it typically accounted for around 45%.

Topic: RE: Last Days Of Aeropostal Alas De Venezuela?
Username: JIWNCO
Posted 2007-12-19 10:34:47 and read 8288 times.

How sad. It wasn't always "Aeromortal" (*)... My best friend just came back from CCS and MAR and vowed to never fly them again. He is a Conviasa fan now.

(*) Mortal Air

[Edited 2007-12-19 10:37:08]

Topic: RE: Last Days Of Aeropostal Alas De Venezuela?
Username: Aviateur
Posted 2007-12-19 10:37:40 and read 8282 times.

Save Aeropostal !

Below is a link to an article I wrote a couple of years back, describing a domestic flight I took aboard Aeropostal out of Caracas. It talks about the carrier's history, and includes a "report card" of my experience ...


http://www.salon.com/tech/col/smith/2004/10/01/askthepilot105/


PS

Topic: RE: Last Days Of Aeropostal Alas De Venezuela?
Username: JIWNCO
Posted 2007-12-19 11:41:37 and read 8236 times.

Aermortal SE SORPRENDE de la llegada del vuelo 013 procedente de Caracas...

Topic: RE: Last Days Of Aeropostal Alas De Venezuela?
Username: Avianca
Posted 2007-12-19 16:42:49 and read 8170 times.

well not a big surprise... even I still have great memories about VH's "operation and great customers-service" from this year... 2 x 5 hours delays, several short delays of around 2 hours... some bigger delays for family members...
problems with luggage... etc etc etc etc..

Topic: RE: Last Days Of Aeropostal Alas De Venezuela?
Username: Cybergus
Posted 2007-12-19 17:08:21 and read 8157 times.

Guys...these videos are something to see...they were taped by an angry passenger who's flight was delayed for 24hours and then when the 24h passed...surprise! there was no plane, so they decided to take the ramp of CCS as a measure of strike.





[Edited 2007-12-19 17:09:15]

Topic: RE: Last Days Of Aeropostal Alas De Venezuela?
Username: Rleiro
Posted 2007-12-19 19:17:21 and read 8101 times.



Quote:
but Aeropostal is falling apart, partly at fault, it seems, of the Venezuelan government.

I have to admit here that this is not a political issue. Aeropostal's management during the last years were involved in extremely ambitious plans amid a strong competition. For example the "Alas de Centroamerica" project:

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They pretended to be a competition for TACA in the Central American market... With 35 - 40 year old planes and basing a hub in San Jose, the same airport in which TACA has its hub... Obviously this project never took off.

After the demise of VIASA in 1997, Aeropostal's plans were to become a charter airline offering flights between Europe and the Caribbean, by taking the routes left by VIASA... This also resulted in a financial disaster.

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Now the UFly project... the rebirth of Falcon Air. Basically, UFly (owned by the same owners of Aeropostal) was going to provide the MD-8X to Aeropostal for its international networl, and Aeropostal would keep the DC-9s for the domestic ones. The INAC refused to extend the lifetime of many of these airplanes, and the DOT has not granted yet the permission to UFly to start operations.

In the while we have Aserca which is rising rapidly with a large fleet of DC-9s, taking many employees of Aeropostal with them, people with years of experience operating this type of airplane, by offering better job conditions and salaries. On the other hand, the unattended routes of Aeropostal (the ones to Colombia, Ecuador and Peru) were revoked by the INAC. So, I would not be surprised to see Aserca or Santa Barbara flying to the Andean region in the coming months (Santa Barbara already has a flight to Guayaquil).

To sum up. The future of Aeropostal is pretty dark. I do not believe we will see her anymore in the coming months.

Saludos,

Roberto.

Topic: RE: Last Days Of Aeropostal Alas De Venezuela?
Username: Viasa
Posted 2007-12-23 04:43:02 and read 7919 times.

Is there a concret information from the government (or INAC) that they will suspend the AOC of Aeropostal.

As I can see, Aeropostal has left one DC-9-32 (YV141T), two DC-9-51 (YV135T, YV136T) and the Falcon MD-82 (N905TA).

Topic: RE: Last Days Of Aeropostal Alas De Venezuela?
Username: Trintocan
Posted 2007-12-23 10:44:40 and read 7854 times.

This is very sad to hear of. The article and the videos both told the story of this once-great Venezuelan airline. Perhaps another significant aspect of this story is how Aeropostal actually got its name and its significance in Trinidad aviation. Aeropostal was originally a French-owned company, Compagne General Aeropostal de Aviation which was set up in the 1920s and offered services across Latin America and the Caribbean. It collapsed in 1933 but the name was taken over by Venezuela while many of the regional services were taken over by the nascent Air France. Compagne Aeropostal was the first airline to serve POS (as in Piarco Airport) in 1931 - while Pan Am was in Trinidad several years earlier it used a seaplane base it built in Cocorite, just West of Port of Spain. Pan Am would not fly to Piarco until 1949, when it abandoned seaplane operations worldwide. Aeropostal in its later incarnation of Linea Aeropostal Venezolana was a regular at POS and its DC-9s offered PMV and CCS on very regular services. In the 1970s and 1980s it was very popular with shoppers from Trinidad who flew over to buy lovely Venezuelan goods - shoes, jewelry, handbags and the like - at great prices. I went to Venezuela on Aeropostal in 1987 on a school trip and flew to Puerto Ordaz - in part I can credit this trip, which was part of my Spanish language education, with my ability to speak Spanish to this day.

Aeropostal served POS until its 1994 demise. When it was reborn as Alas de Venzuela it returned to POS and has been a regular fixture until now - sadly its decline was apparent when I was in POS awaiting a flight to TAB in November, while a flight of VH to CCS was on the boards nobody appeared at the check-in counters or to check-in, making it apparent that the flight was actually cancelled.

Lo siento mucho amigos. Aeropostal esta una linea con una historia larga y grande. La linea se amerita mas mejor de esta.

In English - I'm very sorry my friends. Aeropostal is an airline with a long and great history and deserved much better than this.

TrinToCan.

Topic: RE: Last Days Of Aeropostal Alas De Venezuela?
Username: Viasa
Posted 2007-12-24 02:44:20 and read 7764 times.



Quoting Trintocan (Reply 20):
Aeropostal is an airline with a long and great history

This is true. I would say, that Aeropostal was a pionier!

Here is a list of planes that was operated by Aeropostal:

Airbus A310-300
Airbus A320-200
BAe (HS) 748
Boeing 727-200
Curtis C-46 Commando
DeHavilland Comet 1 (not delivered after the crashs of the 1950s)
DeHavilland DHC-6
Douglas DC-3
Douglas DC-4
Douglas DC-9-10
Douglas DC-9-20
Douglas DC-9-30
Douglas DC-9-50
Latécoère 26
Latécoère 28
Lockheed L-10 Electra (not L-188)
Lockheed L-18 Lodestar
Lockheed L-049 Constellation
Lockheed L-749 Constellation
Lockheed L-1049 SuperConstellation
Martin 2-0-2
Mc Donnell Douglas MD-82
Mc Donnell Douglas MD-83
Vickers Viscount 701

Topic: RE: Last Days Of Aeropostal Alas De Venezuela?
Username: Viasa
Posted 2008-01-03 15:30:08 and read 7545 times.

Any news from Venezuela?

The only thing I heard is that Aeropostal's only MD-82 (N905TA) had an AOG. They leased the B767-300 from Ryan Int'l. I have no idea for how long it was, but it must cost a lot for VH....

Topic: RE: Last Days Of Aeropostal Alas De Venezuela?
Username: Cybergus
Posted 2008-01-03 17:10:34 and read 7505 times.



Quoting Viasa (Reply 22):

Hi Martial! How are you? how was the new years eve?.

Well about VH, i was today in KMIA and i saw the N905TA taking off with a delay to CCS.

Cheers

Tavo

Topic: RE: Last Days Of Aeropostal Alas De Venezuela?
Username: Avianca
Posted 2008-01-03 17:48:20 and read 7492 times.



Quoting Cybergus (Reply 23):
and i saw the N905TA taking off with a delay to CCS.

as usual.... lol

well, I think we wont see them longer than 1 month in the skys...

Topic: RE: Last Days Of Aeropostal Alas De Venezuela?
Username: LTU932
Posted 2008-01-03 18:53:06 and read 7472 times.



Quoting Rleiro (Reply 18):
They pretended to be a competition for TACA in the Central American market... With 35 - 40 year old planes and basing a hub in San Jose, the same airport in which TACA has its hub... Obviously this project never took off.

They already obtained their AOC from CTAC, and yet they never launced. TI-AZS never took off again after their certification flights for the AOC. Hell, I don't even know if the aircraft is still there or if it has been moved for scrapping or secretly ferried back to CCS after all these years.

Apparently the plan was to acquire one or two MD-80s in house from VH and start services with those aircraft, but that didn't happen either. The problem IMO wasn't the DC-9 or using SJO as a hub, the problem was total incompetence by the airline to properly plan their operations and get things prepared in anticipation of their AOC.

Topic: RE: Last Days Of Aeropostal Alas De Venezuela?
Username: Maracucho85
Posted 2008-01-03 19:13:09 and read 7704 times.

Hey guys!

Happy New Year to you all!!

Quoting Avianca (Reply 24):
well, I think we wont see them longer than 1 month in the skys...

I´ve been closely following the situation regarding ALV in these last days, and although I wouldn´t want the airline (Or any airline) to dissappear, I think that this is the most likely scenario in our venezuelan aviation environment. Even the owners (Mr. Ramiz) have turned their eyes to new projects (Ufly), added to the fact that INAC and CADIVI aren´t good friends with the airline.

Sadly, I believe ALV will be substituted (Hopefully) with a much more capable airline (Aserca-SBA merger ??) which would ultimately convert into our flag airline.



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 12):
and is considering switching MIA-MAR to an A300 flight in the spring.

Now this would be great news indeed, Mark. Demand is certainly booming in MAR. In fact, many ppl take the PTY flights, only to be able to connect to MIA. This could convert itself into a bigger gold mine for AA.

Best from Venezuela,

Alberto

Topic: RE: Last Days Of Aeropostal Alas De Venezuela?
Username: MAH4546
Posted 2008-01-03 21:45:05 and read 7666 times.



Quoting Maracucho85 (Reply 26):
Now this would be great news indeed, Mark. Demand is certainly booming in MAR. In fact, many ppl take the PTY flights, only to be able to connect to MIA. This could convert itself into a bigger gold mine for AA.

Indeed. It's amazing what the situation in Venezuela has done to Miami-Venezuela traffic. The unfortunate thing is, traffic is at record levels never seen before, but because of the Venezuelan government, airlines aren't allowed to add flights.

Topic: RE: Last Days Of Aeropostal Alas De Venezuela?
Username: Viasa
Posted 2008-01-12 04:35:19 and read 7497 times.

Aeropostal will decide today what's happen to the company. I heard that they have losses from around USD 100 Millions...

I think that they would stopp it's domestic traffic and will focus on flights to MIA. But we will see.

Topic: RE: Last Days Of Aeropostal Alas De Venezuela?
Username: Orl777
Posted 2008-01-12 05:57:50 and read 7468 times.

Yesterday I was Reading that Aeropostal have a new President, Here is the link, And the planning to add more routes and Aircraft to the fleet, Sorry is in Spanish only

http://www.volarenvenezuela.com/vev/...hp?name=News&file=article&sid=2257

Topic: RE: Last Days Of Aeropostal Alas De Venezuela?
Username: Georgiabill
Posted 2008-01-12 06:22:30 and read 7451 times.

Hopefully they will acquire newer MD80'S to replace their older DC9'S. However I will miss those 9'S. At one time Aerpostal was a great airline, good people with unlimited potential.

Topic: RE: Last Days Of Aeropostal Alas De Venezuela?
Username: Chiguire
Posted 2008-01-12 07:02:26 and read 7425 times.



Quoting LTU932 (Reply 25):
Apparently the plan was to acquire one or two MD-80s in house from VH and start services

The plan was to use the 2 or 3 MDs from Tikal Jet that ceased operations early last year. As far as I know the contract was signed, but they were never taken up to operate for Alas de Centroamerica.
BTW, meanwhile the Banner "our brother airlines" including Alas de Centroamerica disappeared from the Aeropostal website.

Quoting Orl777 (Reply 29):
Yesterday I was Reading that Aeropostal have a new President, Here is the link, And the planning to add more routes and Aircraft to the fleet

I think it is a bad joke to announce more routes at the same day they reduce their domestic frequencies.

To sum it up what happened in 2007:
MAR-MIA cancelled
MAR-CCS reduced from 6 daily to 2 (by the INAC)
CCS-MIA 1 daily UNCHANGED although there short periods with 2 daily
VLN-MIA 1 daily UNCHANGED although there short periods with 10 weekly
CCS-LIM dails - cancelled
CCS-BOG reduced from 3 daily to 2, then to 6 weekly, then cancelled
CCS-MED reduced from 6 weekly to 2, then cancelled
CCS-UIO/GYE daily - cancelled
CCS-HAV 4 weekly - cancelled
CCS-AUA 3 weekly - cancelled
CCS-POS reduced from daily to 5 weekly
CCS-CUR-SDQ daily - still operative
CCS-BLA 4 daily reduced to 2 (by INAC) - then cancelled
CCS-MUN 3 daily - cancelled
CCS-SVZ 2 daily cancelled

now in 2008:
CCS-PMV reduced from 6 to 3 daily
CCS-PZO reduced from 4 to 3 daily
CCS-BRM reduced from 3 to 1 daily
MAR-VLN-BLA-PMV reduced from daily to 6 weekly

Domestic market share has fallen from more than 40 % to less than 5 % ! !

And this guy says he is going to increase operations ?
Due to a law you are not allowed to fire people if they are earning less than a certain amount ( don't know the amount). This is causing big difficulties as VH needs to keep much more personnel than they need. They still have around 1000 people - operating 5 aircraft (4 DC9 and 1 MD).

But I think we can be sure that they will not close down operations. The interest of Mr. Ramiz is still there and they are negotiating with investors. They keep on fighting and have launched a big promo yesterday offering great discounts. This promo has 2 reasons
a) filling empty seats after the sales embargo imposed by INAC in December and lifted last week
b) making it more difficult for INAC today or tomorrow to revoke the AOC as lots of (new) passengers would loose their money
Very interesting: This promo is only valid for bookings up to the 19th. This is a day where the INAC should have made their decision.

Saludos desde Margarita !  cool 

Topic: RE: Last Days Of Aeropostal Alas De Venezuela?
Username: Viasa
Posted 2008-01-14 14:57:23 and read 7287 times.

Any news?

btw: here is the link to the new promotion of VH: http://www.aeropostal.com/aero2004/promociones/promovaca.html

Topic: RE: Last Days Of Aeropostal Alas De Venezuela?
Username: Chiguire
Posted 2008-01-14 16:13:12 and read 7255 times.



Quoting Viasa (Reply 32):
Any news?

The decision has been postponed untill Jan 19th.

Topic: RE: Last Days Of Aeropostal Alas De Venezuela?
Username: Avianca
Posted 2008-01-14 18:28:32 and read 7216 times.



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 12):
Yup. Plus AA is doing their best to schedule larger planes to Caracas (no more 738s, just 757s and A300s right now) and is considering switching MIA-MAR to an A300 flight in the spring.

they would do a hell of money on cargo revenue. So far MAR is very restricted with the cargo ops (2 x weekly Amerijet 727F coming into La Chinita) + charters (JW, etc) but nothing fixed... the rates into MAR are very high plus they could feeder from all over the world the cargo compartments... MAR has also a lot of export freight, a big part is moved via CCS so AA could fill there flights also with a good amount of export cargo, beside perishable cargo, currently moved with DHL Aviation (V4) there are several oil companys with a lot of export cargo.

regards
Avianca

Quoting Chiguire (Reply 31):
To sum it up what happened in 2007:
MAR-MIA cancelled
MAR-CCS reduced from 6 daily to 2 (by the INAC)
CCS-MIA 1 daily UNCHANGED although there short periods with 2 daily
VLN-MIA 1 daily UNCHANGED although there short periods with 10 weekly
CCS-LIM dails - cancelled
CCS-BOG reduced from 3 daily to 2, then to 6 weekly, then cancelled
CCS-MED reduced from 6 weekly to 2, then cancelled
CCS-UIO/GYE daily - cancelled
CCS-HAV 4 weekly - cancelled
CCS-AUA 3 weekly - cancelled
CCS-POS reduced from daily to 5 weekly
CCS-CUR-SDQ daily - still operative
CCS-BLA 4 daily reduced to 2 (by INAC) - then cancelled
CCS-MUN 3 daily - cancelled
CCS-SVZ 2 daily cancelled

now in 2008:
CCS-PMV reduced from 6 to 3 daily
CCS-PZO reduced from 4 to 3 daily
CCS-BRM reduced from 3 to 1 daily
MAR-VLN-BLA-PMV reduced from daily to 6 weekly

really a shame!

Topic: RE: Last Days Of Aeropostal Alas De Venezuela?
Username: Chiguire
Posted 2008-01-14 19:21:22 and read 7189 times.



Quoting Avianca (Reply 34):
So far MAR is very restricted with the cargo ops (2 x weekly Amerijet 727F coming into La Chinita) + charters (JW, etc) but nothing fixed...

So if there is a demand to MAR...why are there no more regular cargo cops ?

Topic: RE: Last Days Of Aeropostal Alas De Venezuela?
Username: Avianca
Posted 2008-01-14 19:26:29 and read 7195 times.



Quoting Chiguire (Reply 35):
So if there is a demand to MAR...why are there no more regular cargo cops ?

really good question why there arent more cargo flights into MAR from MIA. Maybe it is restricted???
These days you can get space from MIA into CCS for arround 1,00 USD x kg all in, into MAR it is arround 2,50 USD x kg all in...

Topic: RE: Last Days Of Aeropostal Alas De Venezuela?
Username: Avianca
Posted 2008-01-22 06:44:27 and read 7017 times.



Quoting Chiguire (Reply 33):
The decision has been postponed untill Jan 19th.

and any decision yet?

Topic: RE: Last Days Of Aeropostal Alas De Venezuela?
Username: AA1818
Posted 2008-01-22 08:36:02 and read 6976 times.



Quoting Avianca (Reply 37):
and any decision yet?

I'm also waiting with bated breath- it could be any day now since the Jan 19th deadline has come and passed.

My thoughts are with the staff and the airline. It would really be a shame to loose Aeropostal.

AA1818

Topic: RE: Last Days Of Aeropostal Alas De Venezuela?
Username: LatinAviation
Posted 2008-01-28 08:32:39 and read 6811 times.

Has there been any update to the situation with Aeropostal?

Topic: RE: Last Days Of Aeropostal Alas De Venezuela?
Username: Chiguire
Posted 2008-01-28 09:57:39 and read 6744 times.



Quoting LatinAviation (Reply 39):
Has there been any update to the situation with Aeropostal?

No news yet. The website is down, the CRD is down.....negociations seem to continue.

Topic: RE: Last Days Of Aeropostal Alas De Venezuela?
Username: Chiguire
Posted 2008-01-30 04:36:51 and read 6637 times.

Maybe I am paranoid. But a Governor (from Carabobo state) is about to buy Aeropostal. The debt is said to be around 100 million US$. The airline is under investigation by local aviation authority INAC. They never were friends from the current owner Nelson Ramiz. Market share has fallen from more then 40 % to lees than 5 %.

And now they say they want to subsidize the airline ? I guess this press release is to check the public opinion.
Here a link in Spanish:
http://www.eluniversal.com/2008/01/3..._inac-no-descarta-sub_693166.shtml

This means that the INAC (the Government) will subsidize the airline when bought by the Governor ! If this happens this is another corruption scandal.

Topic: RE: Last Days Of Aeropostal Alas De Venezuela?
Username: Rleiro
Posted 2008-01-30 12:33:25 and read 6571 times.

Last Sunday there were 3 DC-9's and an MD-80 in CCS, it seemed to operate normally, although the counter desks of VH were empty in comparison with R7 or S3. Now Carnivals are coming and is considered to be a "peak season" for Venezuelans. Let's see how VH will perform during these days.

Saludos,

Roberto.

Topic: RE: Last Days Of Aeropostal Alas De Venezuela?
Username: 797
Posted 2008-01-30 13:45:09 and read 6558 times.



Quoting Chiguire (Reply 41):
This means that the INAC (the Government) will subsidize the airline when bought by the Governor ! If this happens this is another corruption scandal.

WHAT!!!!???

There's the real sight of the Venezuelan Revolution... First, let VH die... now that a 'brother' has the airline let's subsidize it... YEAH

No comments.

Topic: RE: Last Days Of Aeropostal Alas De Venezuela?
Username: Civilav
Posted 2008-01-31 20:50:44 and read 6435 times.



Quoting Chiguire (Reply 41):
Maybe I am paranoid.

You are quite all right my friend and the transaction was duly carried out over the Christmas period in sunny Florida.
Aeropostal will be firmly in the hands of another pro-government owner. This is a good way to launder money from graft and open theft of public funds practices !!

So, a new lease of life for the airline it seems.

Greetings from Cancun !

Topic: RE: Last Days Of Aeropostal Alas De Venezuela?
Username: Viasa
Posted 2008-02-01 04:09:29 and read 6423 times.

Off topic:

Santa Barbara Airlines get a new livery. It look's modern, but not so nice like the actuell livery.

http://www.skyliner-aviation.de/photos/SantaBarbara.jpg

Interesting is, that they also have the logo of Aserca on the tail. We will see, if the new owner of Aeropostal also will change the livery.

Topic: RE: Last Days Of Aeropostal Alas De Venezuela?
Username: Chiguire
Posted 2008-02-01 04:42:53 and read 6391 times.



Quoting Viasa (Reply 45):
Santa Barbara Airlines get a new livery.

This is a joke, isn't it ? This is a really ugly livery  vomit   yuck  .

Quoting Civilav (Reply 44):
You are quite all right my friend and the transaction was duly carried out over the Christmas period in sunny Florida.
Aeropostal will be firmly in the hands of another pro-government owner.

As far as I know it is still not 100% done. But I am sure it will happen.
One day i a not so far future all those people will have to pay for what they did to the country and its people.

Regards from Margarita  cool 

Topic: RE: Last Days Of Aeropostal Alas De Venezuela?
Username: Cybergus
Posted 2008-02-01 05:50:53 and read 6363 times.



Quoting Viasa (Reply 45):
Santa Barbara Airlines get a new livery.

OMG...it is UGLY!!!....and the Aserca Logo on the tail is the proof of who is the new owner. I love the old livery!

Tavo

Topic: RE: Last Days Of Aeropostal Alas De Venezuela?
Username: Rleiro
Posted 2008-02-01 06:45:52 and read 6317 times.



Quote:
Santa Barbara Airlines get a new livery. It looks modern, but not so nice like the current livery.

If the "Power Rangers" livery is awful, this one is worse. I've seen some crew vans already wearing the S3 logo "a la" R7, but I think the currently livery is way better than this one.

Saludos,

Roberto.

Topic: RE: Last Days Of Aeropostal Alas De Venezuela?
Username: Chiguire
Posted 2008-02-01 12:44:50 and read 6282 times.



Quoting Rleiro (Reply 48):
but I think the currently livery is way better than this one.

Yes ! Why didn't they use the current (new !) Aserca livery ?

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Instead of the "aserca airlines" they could have put "sb airlines" on the fulelage....

Topic: RE: Last Days Of Aeropostal Alas De Venezuela?
Username: Chiguire
Posted 2008-02-01 14:08:19 and read 6247 times.

And back to the Aeropostal Topic:

Looks like the deal is DONE !
The website is up again - including online booking.
And the CRS (Sabre) is working again. Aeropostal can again be sold and issued worldwide. So is this good of bad news ?

Topic: RE: Last Days Of Aeropostal Alas De Venezuela?
Username: 797
Posted 2008-02-01 19:07:42 and read 6213 times.

Holy CRAP!

That's one of the ugliest and unfriendly liveries I've seen in a long time... it goes against the airline's concept and I'd say is very unlikely to see it finalized. It tends to look more like a crappy charter airline, not to mention the old style and cheap look that's got...

Oh, how about the titles in red... the tail... GIMME A BREAK!

On the deal, yes, it's been finalized.

I hope they don't succeed... it will be more of the same.

Cheers

Topic: RE: Last Days Of Aeropostal Alas De Venezuela?
Username: Avianca
Posted 2008-02-01 20:26:33 and read 6181 times.



Quoting Chiguire (Reply 50):
And back to the Aeropostal Topic:

Looks like the deal is DONE !
The website is up again - including online booking.
And the CRS (Sabre) is working again. Aeropostal can again be sold and issued worldwide. So is this good of bad news ?

great... Chiguiere, please book for me some flights on this great airline... well at least I didnt lost all my vouchers that I still have at home...

cheers

Topic: RE: Last Days Of Aeropostal Alas De Venezuela?
Username: Chiguire
Posted 2008-02-02 05:30:59 and read 6131 times.



Quoting Avianca (Reply 52):

great... Chiguiere, please book for me some flights on this great airline... well at least I didnt lost all my vouchers that I still have at home...



Quoting 797 (Reply 51):
I hope they don't succeed...

I know you two guys really felt in love with this airline  duck  First of all I am happy that some 1200 employees didin't lose their jobs. The rest - we will see.....
But the most important point of all this is maybe, that there is hardly an airline without government interference left:
Conviasa = state owned
Venezolana = Diosdado Cabello (Governor Miranda State)
Aeropostal = Acosta Carles (Governor Carabobo State)
Aserca/Santa Barbara = Acosta Carles seems to have some stakes in them as well
About Avior I am not totally sure as the ties with Aeropostal where very tight in the last months. Apart of them there is just Laser and Rutaca left. And as I always said: I am not flying any Government owned airline....I guess I will now have to swim or walk on some routes.

Topic: RE: Last Days Of Aeropostal Alas De Venezuela?
Username: Avianca
Posted 2008-02-03 01:31:27 and read 6019 times.



Quoting Chiguire (Reply 53):
Conviasa = state owned
Venezolana = Diosdado Cabello (Governor Miranda State)
Aeropostal = Acosta Carles (Governor Carabobo State)
Aserca/Santa Barbara = Acosta Carles seems to have some stakes in them as well
About Avior I am not totally sure as the ties with Aeropostal where very tight in the last months. Apart of them there is just Laser and Rutaca left. And as I always said: I am not flying any Government owned airline....I guess I will now have to swim or walk on some routes.

remember "ahora es de todos" ..... always thought the Governors are paid with "platanos, rice and caraotas" and not with hard cash... hard times for you my friend... at least you can take Laser from "monkey island" to ccs  rotfl   rotfl   rotfl   rotfl 

Topic: RE: Last Days Of Aeropostal Alas De Venezuela?
Username: Viasa
Posted 2008-02-09 12:10:19 and read 5869 times.

Aeropostal will have a new logo....

Topic: RE: Last Days Of Aeropostal Alas De Venezuela?
Username: 797
Posted 2008-02-09 17:47:12 and read 5785 times.



Quoting Viasa (Reply 55):
Aeropostal will have a new logo....

Awesome! LOL

Topic: RE: Last Days Of Aeropostal Alas De Venezuela?
Username: Chiguire
Posted 2008-02-14 15:21:45 and read 5658 times.

Seems like Aeropostal is sick of the technical problems with the 737 operated by Avior for their CUR-SDQ and POS route. As of tomorrow those routes will be operated by this Sky King 737:

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Topic: RE: Last Days Of Aeropostal Alas De Venezuela?
Username: Viasa
Posted 2008-02-21 05:59:16 and read 5509 times.



Quoting Chiguire (Reply 57):
As of tomorrow those routes will be operated by this Sky King 737

Chiguire did you know for how long they lease this plane?

Topic: RE: Last Days Of Aeropostal Alas De Venezuela?
Username: AA1818
Posted 2008-02-21 08:14:47 and read 5473 times.



Quoting Chiguire (Reply 57):
POS route. As of tomorrow those routes will be operated by this Sky King 737:

Shame POS is not getting the MD80s/ DC9s. How often is POS served? I remember seeing 2 DC9s regularly at POS on a morning.

AA1818

Topic: RE: Last Days Of Aeropostal Alas De Venezuela?
Username: Chiguire
Posted 2008-02-21 08:16:53 and read 5476 times.



Quoting Viasa (Reply 58):

Chiguire did you know for how long they lease this plane?

I have no clue. They sent around communications even with internal shots of the plane. Seems to me like a long term solution.

Topic: RE: Last Days Of Aeropostal Alas De Venezuela?
Username: Avianca
Posted 2008-02-21 19:33:39 and read 5387 times.



Quoting Chiguire (Reply 60):
They sent around communications even with internal shots of the plane. Seems to me like a long term solution.

how is the inside shape of this baby?


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