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Topic: 6 Inaugurals' Today For LH
Username: Stylo777
Posted 2008-03-30 07:06:00 and read 9307 times.

As of today the summer schedule is operable and LH made the start with six inaugural flights. The most popular one for sure was LH490 heading to SEA. Aircraft used on this route D-AIKF, an A330-300, which departed 10 minutes ahead of schedule and a full load  Wink

the other inaugurals today:

LH3418 FRA-GDN operated by LH Cityline D-ACPG CRJ700
LH3306 FRA-KRK also operated by D-ACPG
LH3126 FRA-BGO operated by LH Cityline D-ACPT CRJ700 in Star Alliance livery
LH4960 FRA-BRS by LH D-ABEA B737-300
LH3120 FRA-BLL by LH DABXM B737-300

for tomorrow we have another interesting one:

LH780 FRA-NKG with D-AIFF (A340-313X)

and the day after tomorrow...

LH562 FRA-SSG with D-AIKE (A330-300)


YYC, LAD and SHE ex MUC still to come...

however flights to CPT are suspended until next winther (as usual  Smile )

Topic: RE: 6 Inaugurals' Today For LH
Username: B747forever
Posted 2008-03-30 07:16:40 and read 9268 times.



Quoting Stylo777 (Thread starter):
however flights to CPT are suspended until next winther (as usual )

Why is that???

Topic: RE: 6 Inaugurals' Today For LH
Username: Stylo777
Posted 2008-03-30 07:18:54 and read 9248 times.



Quoting B747forever (Reply 1):
Why is that???

due to low loads during European summer

Topic: RE: 6 Inaugurals' Today For LH
Username: SandroZRH
Posted 2008-03-30 07:19:32 and read 9253 times.



Quoting Stylo777 (Thread starter):

LH562 FRA-SSG with D-AIKE (A330-300)

Which they "kindly" took over from LX  Wink

Topic: RE: 6 Inaugurals' Today For LH
Username: Stylo777
Posted 2008-03-30 07:22:11 and read 9278 times.



Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 3):
Which they "kindly" took over from LX

yes indeed Big grin

they also took over FRA-BLL from C9  Wink

Topic: RE: 6 Inaugurals' Today For LH
Username: JoFMO
Posted 2008-03-30 07:39:34 and read 9183 times.



Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 3):
Quoting Stylo777 (Thread starter):

LH562 FRA-SSG with D-AIKE (A330-300)

Which they "kindly" took over from LX Wink

But it seems to be beneficial for both LH and LX.

LX now flies 3x ZRH-DLA-NSI instead of 2x ZRH-SSG-DLA and 1x ZRH-SSG-NSI.

So while LH took over Equatorial Guinea LX can concentrate on Cameroon. A win-win I think.

Topic: RE: 6 Inaugurals' Today For LH
Username: AS739X
Posted 2008-03-30 07:42:09 and read 9152 times.

Seattle service started today?

Bad day for SEA-TAC to have fueling issues like they are. Hope its resolved this afternoon for the LH departure.

ASSFO

Topic: RE: 6 Inaugurals' Today For LH
Username: Stylo777
Posted 2008-03-30 07:42:16 and read 9151 times.



Quoting JoFMO (Reply 5):
A win-win I think.

in the end every cent lands in the same pocket  Wink

Topic: RE: 6 Inaugurals' Today For LH
Username: SandroZRH
Posted 2008-03-30 07:42:39 and read 9153 times.



Quoting JoFMO (Reply 5):

Totally agree.

However LH crews won't be too pleased, i heard that SSG was one of the least favorite destinations among LX crews, and they didnt even stay there overnight!

Topic: RE: 6 Inaugurals' Today For LH
Username: CX288
Posted 2008-03-30 07:46:32 and read 9121 times.



Quoting Stylo777 (Thread starter):
LH4960 FRA-BRS by LH D-ABEA B737-300
LH3120 FRA-BLL by LH DABXM B737-300

Weren't both flight planned to be operated by Eurowings (Lufthansa Regional) with BAe 146-300? B-737-300 on both routes seems quite a capacity upgrade if operated on a regular basis.

Quoting Stylo777 (Thread starter):
YYC, LAD and SHE ex MUC still to come...

YYC will start flying daily into YYC on 14APR. The flight starts/ends at their FRA hub and not in MUC.

Topic: RE: 6 Inaugurals' Today For LH
Username: DABVF
Posted 2008-03-30 08:13:42 and read 8983 times.

Quoting CX288 (Reply 9):
Weren't both flight planned to be operated by Eurowings (Lufthansa Regional) with BAe 146-300? B-737-300 on both routes seems quite a capacity upgrade if operated on a regular basis.

B733 only today and tomorrow on LH 4960 FRA-BRS. In future only Eurowings BAe 146-300 on FRA-BRS.

Billund will be served 3x daily, 2x with Eurowings BAe 146-300 and 1x with B737-500 (evening flight FRA-BLL, morning flight BLL-FRA).



Some more news:
* FRA-ALG: New flight 3x weekly with A319, LH 4122, Departure FRA 14:00
* FRA-ROV now with A319 (4x weekly)

[Edited 2008-03-30 08:16:20]

Topic: RE: 6 Inaugurals' Today For LH
Username: B747forever
Posted 2008-03-30 08:15:11 and read 8976 times.

Wonder now when LH serve SEA how it will affect SAS???

Topic: RE: 6 Inaugurals' Today For LH
Username: Stylo777
Posted 2008-03-30 08:16:50 and read 8959 times.

Quoting CX288 (Reply 9):
The flight starts/ends at their FRA hub and not in MUC.

yes, YYC and LAD are FRA-flights, only the SHE flight is going from MUC

Quoting CX288 (Reply 9):
Weren't both flight planned to be operated by Eurowings (Lufthansa Regional) with BAe 146-300?

expect the evening BLL flight all flights will switch to EW and 143 equipment during the next weeks. as I said the evening BLL run remains LH mainline and 735 a/c


edit: DABVF you beat me to it

[Edited 2008-03-30 08:17:54]

Topic: RE: 6 Inaugurals' Today For LH
Username: Avianca
Posted 2008-03-30 08:46:17 and read 8828 times.

Great to see LH expanding!!! when they finally upgrade CCS, would be nice to see another A340-600 or even a B747-400 here in CCS  Smile

Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 8):
However LH crews won't be too pleased, i heard that SSG was one of the least favorite destinations among LX crews, and they didnt even stay there overnight

so the crews will be full of hot girls... as no senior will apply to fly the route

 Wink

Topic: RE: 6 Inaugurals' Today For LH
Username: Stylo777
Posted 2008-03-30 09:02:52 and read 8764 times.



Quoting Avianca (Reply 13):
so the crews will be full of hot girls.

 checkmark 

Topic: RE: 6 Inaugurals' Today For LH
Username: SandroZRH
Posted 2008-03-30 09:54:34 and read 8605 times.



Quoting Avianca (Reply 13):
so the crews will be full of hot girls

full of young girls yes, but hot, that's debatable  Wink

Topic: RE: 6 Inaugurals' Today For LH
Username: A380US
Posted 2008-03-30 10:58:04 and read 8389 times.

Dang thats alot of flights
where are all the a/c coming from?

Topic: RE: 6 Inaugurals' Today For LH
Username: NQYGuy
Posted 2008-03-30 11:10:59 and read 8343 times.



Quoting A380US (Reply 16):
Dang thats alot of flights
where are all the a/c coming from?

Probably no doubt from reduced capacity/termination of other routes.

It's nice to see some more routes from BRS too (My old local airport), I'm sure to make use of these flights to go onto BRE from Frankfurt. Good to see them coming to NQY too, abeit for a short period in the summer.

Topic: RE: 6 Inaugurals' Today For LH
Username: BAW716
Posted 2008-03-30 11:28:04 and read 8266 times.



Quoting AS739X (Reply 6):
Seattle service started today?

Bad day for SEA-TAC to have fueling issues like they are. Hope its resolved this afternoon for the LH departure.

ASSFO

Yes, at 1125 PDT, LH490 is about 40 min out....skd arrival is 1230, eta is 1215. The fuel spill that occurred this morning was near gate C16...and will not affect the LH operation, as they will operate out of the South Satellite.

On behalf of the aviation community in Seattle,
Willkommen in Seattle, Lufthansa...und Viel Glueck (welcome and good luck).

baw716

Topic: RE: 6 Inaugurals' Today For LH
Username: DABVF
Posted 2008-03-30 12:11:45 and read 8147 times.

Some more highlights:
* Starting today, LH will send A340-600 on MUC-PEK. First A340-600 on the way to PEK is D-AIHP.
* FRA-MAA now with A340-600 (instead of B747-400). Today it was D-AIHB.
* Starting tomorrow, LH will send B747-400 to IAH.
* Two daily A340-600 to ORD: LH 434 from MUC and LH 432 from FRA.

Topic: RE: 6 Inaugurals' Today For LH
Username: ScarletHarlot
Posted 2008-03-30 14:05:31 and read 7917 times.



Quoting BAW716 (Reply 18):
On behalf of the aviation community in Seattle,
Willkommen in Seattle, Lufthansa...und Viel Glueck (welcome and good luck).

There were about a dozen enthusiasts at the water tower north of SEA today to watch the first LH landing. Unfortunately, the Tower controller was not as welcoming as the one for the first AF flight. LH 490 had to call in twice before the controller responded to him. But it was beautiful to see!  Smile

Topic: RE: 6 Inaugurals' Today For LH
Username: SPIM2EDDN
Posted 2008-03-30 14:20:09 and read 7853 times.



Quoting Stylo777 (Thread starter):
and the day after tomorrow...

LH562 FRA-SSG with D-AIKE (A330-300)

now can someone explain to me how LH starts flying to SSG, (an airport which serves a city with a population of 100,000 and about 35,000 passengers a year... in a country with merely 500,000 inhabitants... hey nothing personal, really)... before returning to BOG & LIM?!?!?

What's the deal here?

Topic: RE: 6 Inaugurals' Today For LH
Username: Viscount724
Posted 2008-03-30 16:31:36 and read 7669 times.



Quoting Stylo777 (Thread starter):
As of today the summer schedule is operable and LH made the start with six inaugural flights. The most popular one for sure was LH490 heading to SEA.

LH must now be the only transatlantic carrier with nonstop service to 5 cities on the West Coast (YVR, SEA, PDX, SFO, LAX). The closest is BA with service to 4 West Coast cities (YVR, SEA, SFO, LAX).

Topic: RE: 6 Inaugurals' Today For LH
Username: RoseFlyer
Posted 2008-03-30 16:44:25 and read 7641 times.

It's great to SEA Lufthansa expanding. I hope they do well on all of the routes.

On another note, in the future, it would really be nice if a.netters checked to see if the airport codes that they post for small unknown airports show up here on the website when you mouse over them, because otherwise, the airport codes do the common reader little good. Posting the airport cities is a lot nicer.

Topic: RE: 6 Inaugurals' Today For LH
Username: ER757
Posted 2008-03-30 19:10:40 and read 7265 times.



Quoting Stylo777 (Thread starter):
The most popular one for sure was LH490 heading to SEA. Aircraft used on this route D-AIKF, an A330-300, which departed 10 minutes ahead of schedule and a full load

And she arrived about 10 minutes early as well, just as the sun broke through the clouds! A beautiful sight indeed. Looking forward to having Lufty as a regular visitor to the Emerald City. Now, if only they can grow their customer base in the next few years and start sending us a shiny new 748i........hey, I can dream, can't I?

Topic: RE: 6 Inaugurals' Today For LH
Username: Abrelosojos
Posted 2008-03-30 21:19:01 and read 6513 times.



Quoting SPIM2EDDN (Reply 21):
now can someone explain to me how LH starts flying to SSG, (an airport which serves a city with a population of 100,000 and about 35,000 passengers a year... in a country with merely 500,000 inhabitants... hey nothing personal, really)... before returning to BOG & LIM?!?!?

What's the deal here?

= Are you kidding? SSG is going to be a tremendously profitable route for LH ... like it was for LX. SSG is a HUGE oil boom town and each time I have been on the flight their has never been a J seat open. The last time I did it was on AF's DEDICATE service. Eq. Guinea is a MAJOR oil producer in Africa. BOG and LIM hardly has enough premium traffic.

Quoting JoFMO (Reply 5):
Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 3):
Quoting Stylo777 (Thread starter):

LH562 FRA-SSG with D-AIKE (A330-300)

Which they "kindly" took over from LX Wink

But it seems to be beneficial for both LH and LX.

LX now flies 3x ZRH-DLA-NSI instead of 2x ZRH-SSG-DLA and 1x ZRH-SSG-NSI.

So while LH took over Equatorial Guinea LX can concentrate on Cameroon. A win-win I think.

= Actually, I don't think its an even trade. LX and ZRH gets the second degree as LH continues to develop fortress FRA to feed into SSG at LX and ZRH's expense.

Cheers,
A.

Topic: RE: 6 Inaugurals' Today For LH
Username: Abrelosojos
Posted 2008-03-30 21:21:37 and read 6721 times.



Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 8):
However LH crews won't be too pleased, i heard that SSG was one of the least favorite destinations among LX crews, and they didnt even stay there overnight!

= .. except at least one LX airhostess who liked her men "tough and big" and ended up with a South African mercenary. They met on an outbound flight.

Cheers,
A.

Topic: RE: 6 Inaugurals' Today For LH
Username: JoFMO
Posted 2008-03-30 22:21:57 and read 6380 times.



Quoting Abrelosojos (Reply 25):
= Actually, I don't think its an even trade. LX and ZRH gets the second degree as LH continues to develop fortress FRA to feed into SSG at LX and ZRH's expense.

Could well be, but I reckon that the oerall results will be better from FRA because of its better incontinental connection. And it was easier for the company to just move one flight to FRA compared to introducing several new flights from ZRH to IAH...etc. p.p.

Topic: RE: 6 Inaugurals' Today For LH
Username: LHSTR
Posted 2008-03-30 22:33:15 and read 6325 times.

Some more new flights for LH:

MUC-KLU 3 times daily
MUC-CLJ daily
MUC-BIO daily

Topic: RE: 6 Inaugurals' Today For LH
Username: Hugo
Posted 2008-03-31 08:02:41 and read 3509 times.

LH just dropped MNL after 26 years. From a daily 346 to 0. SUCKS.

Topic: RE: 6 Inaugurals' Today For LH
Username: Stylo777
Posted 2008-03-31 10:42:28 and read 3301 times.

I just forgot that FRA-VLC also opened last weekend. Don't know if they already served VLC from FRA before.

Schedule and equiptment change after the drop of the MNL tag-on for the CAN flight:

6x weekly flights (except Sunday) LH786 operates with an A340-300 at 14:10h from FRA to CAN. Also introducing First Class into this market.

Topic: RE: 6 Inaugurals' Today For LH
Username: LH506
Posted 2008-03-31 11:27:41 and read 3206 times.

Does anybody have a complete overview of all LH longhaul flights, frequencies and a/c for summer 08 ex FRA, MUC and DUS?

Topic: RE: 6 Inaugurals' Today For LH
Username: Stylo777
Posted 2008-03-31 12:43:52 and read 3064 times.

if not shown otherwise all flights are daily

FRA-OPS

LH400 FRA JFK 744
LH402 FRA EWR 744/343
LH404 FRA JFK 744
LH406 FRA JFK 333/343 (additional flight during summer)
LH484 FRA EWR 73W PRIVATAIR 12345-7
LH416 FRA IAD 333/343 (additional flight during summer)
LH418 FRA IAD 744
LH420 FRA BOS 343 (additional flight during summer)
LH422 FRA BOS 346 (eqv. upgrade)
LH426 FRA PHL 333/343
LH430 FRA ORD 744 (eqv. upgrade)
LH432 FRA ORD 346 (eqv. upgrade)
LH438 FRA DFW 343
LH440 FRA IAH 744 (eqv. upgrade)
LH442 FRA DTW 333/343
LH444 FRA ATL 343
LH446 FRA DEN 346
LH450 FRA LAX 744 (additional flight during summer)
LH454 FRA SFO 744
LH456 FRA LAX 744
LH462 FRA MIA 744
LH464 FRA MCO 333 -2-456-7
LH468 FRA PDX 343
LH470 FRA YYZ 343/346
LH486 FRA DTW 333/343 1-3-567
LH490 FRA SEA 333 (new!!!)
LH492 FRA YVR 346
LH494 FRA YYC 333 (new!!!)
LH498 FRA MEX 744

LH506 FRA GRU 744
LH510 FRA EZE 744 1-3-4567
LH534 FRA CCS 343
LH560 FRA LAD 343 -2----- (new!!!)
LH562 FRA SSG ABV 333 -2-4--7 (new!!!)
LH564 FRA LOS ACC 333
LH572 FRA JNB 744
LH582 FRA CAI AB6
LH584 FRA CAI AB6
LH590 FRA KRT ADD AB6 1-3-56-
LH592 FRA JED ASM 333/343 1-3--6-

LH600 FRA IKA 343
LH612 FRA GYD ASB 333/343 12-4--7
LH618 FRA DOH MCT 333/343 -2-4-6-
LH622 FRA BAH AUH 333/343 -2-4-67
LH628 FRA DMM AUH 333 1-3-5--
LH630 FRA DXB 744 (single flight without any tag-on)
LH636 FRA KWI 333/343
LH646 FRA TSE ALA AB6 1--4---
LH648 FRA ALA AB6 -23-567
LH652 FRA RUH SAH 333 1-3-5--
LH658 FRA LHE khi AB6 -2-4--7
LH686 FRA TLV 744
LH690 FRA TLV 346

LH710 FRA NRT 744
LH712 FRA ICN 346
LH720 FRA PEK 744
LH728 FRA PVG 744
LH732 FRA PVG 343 -2-4-6 (additional flight during summer)
LH736 FRA NGO 343
LH738 FRA HKG 744
LH740 FRA KIX 346
LH750 FRA CCU 333 --3-5-7
LH752 FRA HYD 343
LH754 FRA BLR 744
LH756 FRA BOM 744
LH758 FRA MAA 346 (eqv. upgrade)
LH760 FRA DEL 744
LH772 FRA BKK SGN 744 1--4-6-
LH778 FRA SIN CGK 744
LH780 FRA NKG 343 12-45-7 (new!!!)
LH782 FRA BKK KUL 744 -23-5-7
LH786 FRA CAN 343 1-34567 (without MNL tag-on)

MUC-OPS

LH410 MUC JFK 346
LH424 MUC BOS 333
LH428 MUC CLT 333/343
LH434 MUC ORD 346
LH452 MUC LAX 346
LH458 MUC SFO 346
LH474 MUC YUL 333
LH480 MUC DEN 343 -234567

LH504 MUC GRU 343

LH638 MUC DXB 319 PRIVATAIR 1-34567

LH714 MUC NRT 343
LH716 MUC ICN SHE 343 -2----7 (new destination SHE!!!
LH718 MUC ICN 343 1--4-6-
LH722 MUC PEK 346
LH726 MUC PVG 346
LH730 MUC HKG 343
LH762 MUC DEL 346
LH764 MUC BOM 343 (new!!!)
LH790 MUC SIN 343 -234--7 (new!!!)

DUS-OPS

LH408 DUS EWR 343 1234567 (eqv. upgrade)
LH436 DUS ORD 343 12-4567 (eqv. upgrade)
LH472 DUS YYZ 343 12-4567 (new!!!)


I hope I didnt forget any flight  Wink

Topic: RE: 6 Inaugurals' Today For LH
Username: LH506
Posted 2008-03-31 14:22:07 and read 2909 times.



Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 32):
LH716 MUC ICN SHE 343 -2----7 (new destination SHE!!!
LH718 MUC ICN 343 1--4-6-

Is Busan not served anymore???

Topic: RE: 6 Inaugurals' Today For LH
Username: Stylo777
Posted 2008-03-31 14:26:10 and read 2886 times.



Quoting LH506 (Reply 33):
Is Busan not served anymore???

sorry, forgot the tag-on for LH718... the routing is still MUC ICN PUS, thx!!!

Topic: RE: 6 Inaugurals' Today For LH
Username: LH506
Posted 2008-03-31 14:46:21 and read 2819 times.

What about LH 414 MUC-IAD??

Topic: RE: 6 Inaugurals' Today For LH
Username: Johnnybgoode
Posted 2008-03-31 14:51:10 and read 2811 times.



Quoting CX288 (Reply 9):
Weren't both flight planned to be operated by Eurowings (Lufthansa Regional) with BAe 146-300? B-737-300 on both routes seems quite a capacity upgrade if operated on a regular basis.

it is not uncommon to have a larger aircraft operating the inaugural flight. usually, there are many officials on the inaugural flight and lots of staff, also often officials from the new city (mayors and alike). that's why it's not uncommon those services are upgauged.


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