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Topic: Olympic Flame On While Flying?
Username: LHStarAlliance
Posted 2008-04-07 05:32:05 and read 6979 times.

AFAIK the Fire should not extinguish on it's way from Greece to China ...

Is the Fire on while flying with the A/C ? If yes why isn't it forbidden ?


Constantin

[Edited 2008-04-07 05:32:42]

Topic: Olympic Flame On While Flying?
Username: Smokeyrosco
Posted 2008-04-07 05:36:09 and read 6965 times.



Quoting LHStarAlliance (Thread starter):

I've been wondering that myself.

Topic: Olympic Flame On While Flying?
Username: Smeg
Posted 2008-04-07 05:46:56 and read 6915 times.

Quoting LHStarAlliance (Thread starter):
Is the Fire on while flying with the A/C ? If yes why isn't it forbidden ?

The "olympic flame" is actually little more than a candle contained in a special lantern! This lantern remains lit at all times. It is carried on flights while lit, and even has guards outside its hotel room!!!!! The lsntern is VERY heavily guarded.

The torches are lit from this flame prior to each procession, and indeed can be re-lit should the torch be extinguished!

[Edited 2008-04-07 05:48:32]

Topic: Olympic Flame On While Flying?
Username: Cjbmibe
Posted 2008-04-07 05:47:41 and read 6916 times.

I read it in the paper the other day. They fly on a specially chartered plane and the torch does go out but there are 4 lanterns lit from the same source which are enclosed and as such allowed. The lanterns have bodyguards and everything. One off the flight the torch is relit using one of the 4 lanterns.

Topic: Olympic Flame On While Flying?
Username: MD11Engineer
Posted 2008-04-07 06:07:06 and read 6836 times.

During the last Olympic games theyused a small propane torch mounted to a cabin bulkhead, which was burning inside a cage similar to a miner's safety lamp (Davy lamp). The flame cannot pass the wiremesh cage.

Jan

Topic: Olympic Flame On While Flying?
Username: JFKTOWERFAN
Posted 2008-04-07 06:26:19 and read 6765 times.



Corey

Topic: Olympic Flame On While Flying?
Username: Baroque
Posted 2008-04-07 06:40:02 and read 6714 times.



Quoting JFKTOWERFAN (Reply 7):
JFKTOWERFAN

? Thank you Mr Davy?

Topic: Olympic Flame On While Flying?
Username: PlunaCRJ
Posted 2008-04-07 11:54:00 and read 6377 times.

I guess if the flame in the lantern (all four of them) somehow extinguishes, the guards, before admitting what happened, would relit the flame using a match. Nobody would ever know.

Wonder how many times that happened already.

Topic: Olympic Flame On While Flying?
Username: FlyASAGuy2005
Posted 2008-04-07 12:26:52 and read 6282 times.



Quoting Cjbmibe (Reply 3):

Delta took it around when they sponsored both times I believe.

Topic: Olympic Flame On While Flying?
Username: SSRJ
Posted 2008-04-07 13:53:10 and read 6135 times.

When Delta transported the flame they had to perform several temporary modifcations to the aircraft (special mounts, additional fire extinguishers, develop additional safety procedures etc. etc.) They had to satisfy the FAA that would all be safe and shiny.

Big pain in the butt, but worth it for any airline in the "Marketing Hype" department.

I'm sure an A-netter somewhere has pictures of the flame onboard an a/c..... just wonder if they'd actually post it? (Hint hint)

 Wink

Topic: Olympic Flame On While Flying?
Username: Jbernie
Posted 2008-04-07 17:31:42 and read 5871 times.



Quoting PlunaCRJ (Reply 7):
I guess if the flame in the lantern (all four of them) somehow extinguishes, the guards, before admitting what happened, would relit the flame using a match. Nobody would ever know.

Wonder how many times that happened already.

If what I read in the news today was correct we don't need to worry about it going out on the plane this time around as it has already been extinguished a few times because of the protests in Paris & London.

Topic: Olympic Flame On While Flying?
Username: Superhub
Posted 2008-04-07 17:59:24 and read 5830 times.



Quoting Jbernie (Reply 10):
If what I read in the news today was correct we don't need to worry about it going out on the plane this time around as it has already been extinguished a few times because of the protests in Paris & London.

I think you got confused with the torch. The torches were extinguished a few times in Paris today. But they keep 4 lanterns (which is lit from the source in Greece and they are used to relight the torches) which should always be lit somewhere out of sight from the main source.

Quoting PlunaCRJ (Reply 7):
I guess if the flame in the lantern (all four of them) somehow extinguishes, the guards, before admitting what happened, would relit the flame using a match. Nobody would ever know.

I am sure they are well-trained for it!

Topic: Olympic Flame On While Flying?
Username: Mashimaro1
Posted 2008-04-08 00:05:55 and read 5593 times.

Didn't they charter a B747 espeically for the purpose of transporting the flam last time in 2004? I remember seeing a B747 in the Olympics livery.

Topic: RE: Olympic Flame On While Flying?
Username: QANTAS077
Posted 2008-04-08 01:38:37 and read 5492 times.



Quoting Mashimaro1 (Reply 12):
Didn't they charter a B747 espeically for the purpose of transporting the flam last time in 2004?

yes..Atlanta Icelandic if I remember right. TF-ARO was the bird.

Topic: RE: Olympic Flame On While Flying?
Username: Imag
Posted 2008-04-08 05:26:54 and read 5128 times.

I think it arrived at LHR on an A330 with all the logos on it (the Airbus that is).

Imagine if it went through T5, that would be fun.

Topic: RE: Olympic Flame On While Flying?
Username: Litz
Posted 2008-04-08 09:26:29 and read 4651 times.



Quoting SSRJ (Reply 9):
When Delta transported the flame they had to perform several temporary modifcations to the aircraft (special mounts, additional fire extinguishers, develop additional safety procedures etc. etc.) They had to satisfy the FAA that would all be safe and shiny.

I believe they used one of their MD-11s for this in '96, probably again for the Salt Lake winter games as well.

If I remember correctly from back then (it was hard to keep up with all the olympics prep news) they had special brackets on the front bulkhead for the torch cage, and when the airplane was returned to passenger service after the Olympics charters, the spot where the flame had been mounted was noted with a plaque.

- litz

Topic: RE: Olympic Flame On While Flying?
Username: PlunaCRJ
Posted 2008-04-08 10:51:07 and read 4559 times.



Quoting Litz (Reply 15):
I believe they used one of their MD-11s for this in '96, probably again for the Salt Lake winter games as well.

Was that the Atlanta ยด96 livery MD-11?

Topic: RE: Olympic Flame On While Flying?
Username: Fanoftristars
Posted 2008-04-08 12:24:57 and read 4441 times.



Quoting Litz (Reply 15):
I believe they used one of their MD-11s for this in '96, probably again for the Salt Lake winter games as well.

2002 DL used the 777 painted in the special Olympics livery.


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Topic: RE: Olympic Flame On While Flying?
Username: Smokeyrosco
Posted 2008-04-09 07:05:47 and read 4192 times.

Just posted today on rte.ie's website (an Irish broadcaster similar to the BBC.... kinda)

http://www.rte.ie/news/2008/0409/flame.html

Quote:
The science behind the Olympic flame
Wednesday, 9 April 2008 14:42
The tradition of the Olympic flame may be rooted in Greek sporting heritage dating back thousands of years, but new technology is crucial to keeping the fire burning whatever is thrown at it.

This week a torch was briefly extinguished in Paris to keep it from protesters opposing China's policy in Tibet. The Olympic flame, though, did not go out.....

Topic: RE: Olympic Flame On While Flying?
Username: GerbenYYZ
Posted 2008-04-09 07:52:47 and read 4151 times.



Quoting Imag (Reply 14):
Imagine if it went through T5, that would be fun

He he, hopefully the lantern has plenty of propane!

Topic: RE: Olympic Flame On While Flying?
Username: Acey559
Posted 2008-04-09 08:30:31 and read 4109 times.



Quoting Fanoftristars (Reply 17):
2002 DL used the 777 painted in the special Olympics livery.

Didn't they have a 757 painted similarly to the 777 also?


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