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Topic: AF To Start Charging For Exit Row Seats
Username: Skyteam10001
Posted 2008-04-15 13:07:20 and read 3859 times.

Was just on the phone to book a trip with KL but I used the AF elite line and while selecting my seat, the agent casually told me that "soon" AF was going to charge ppl who want to select an exit row seat. He said it was going to costr EUR 50 per leg on intercontinental flights.

He also mentionned that elite members wouldn't be charged anything.

Right now on AF I believe you can't book the exit row seats before check-in so i guess for elite members it is a plus, for other ppl it kinda s*cks.

I guess AF needs to squeeze more Euros out of its customers... maybe soon they'll charge for the second bag like all the US airlines...

If someone has more info, do not hesitate to share... and apologies if this has been discussed before, I haven't seen in in any search results.

A.

Topic: RE: AF To Start Charging For Exit Row Seats
Username: Eatmybologna
Posted 2008-04-15 13:08:56 and read 3855 times.

As long as they don't charge for window seats, I'm fine with this.

Topic: RE: AF To Start Charging For Exit Row Seats
Username: Aisak
Posted 2008-04-15 13:14:59 and read 3830 times.



Quoting Skyteam10001 (Thread starter):
I guess AF needs to squeeze more Euros out of its customers... maybe soon they'll charge for the second bag like all the US airlines...

The standard for EU airlines is 20 Kg (BA being the exception with 23Kg). It's not easy to split 20 kilos into 2 bags.

Topic: RE: AF To Start Charging For Exit Row Seats
Username: Okapi
Posted 2008-04-15 15:08:32 and read 3676 times.

Quoting Eatmybologna (Reply 1):
As long as they don't charge for window seats, I'm fine with this.


   Some marketing guru could come out with such an idea !


Quoting Aisak (Reply 2):
The standard for EU airlines is 20 Kg

On US-bound flights, you are allowed 2 bags. Max 32kg each, that's a lot free of charge !

[Edited 2008-04-15 15:09:31]

Topic: RE: AF To Start Charging For Exit Row Seats
Username: Smeg
Posted 2008-04-15 15:27:00 and read 3628 times.

Virgin Atlantic have been doing this for a while now. When I needed a last minute flight with them last year, there were no upper class seats or premium economy seats. I therefore had to fly cattle. As I am 6ft 4in I asked them for an exit seat. They were going to charge me 30GBP for the priviledge, until they found out that I am a Gold Tier flying Club member - They then gave it to me for free!!!  Big grin (NEVER AGAIN!!!!! next time, I will arrive late on Upper Class! What an experience that was in the back! the seat was narrower than FR Absolutely unbelievable, but that is another story!)

I do not think that it is such a bad idea, although there should be a sliding scale. Little tip for you all.....The window exit seat is a rip off. Never buy it. When the door is closed, the emergency slide on the 744 cuts off pretty much any extra leg room that you may think that you are going to have! No way should this cost the same as the isle seat. Other than that, I do not think that it is such a bad thing to charge for the extra space. In this current economic climate, I expect more and more carriers to do the same

Topic: RE: AF To Start Charging For Exit Row Seats
Username: CuriousFlyer
Posted 2008-04-15 16:28:22 and read 3545 times.

Well, I am half happy...

First I have always expected them to let their elites get the good seats, at the moment they are just impossible to book. so that's good news, they are just 5 years late (in typical Air France fashion).

Second it sucks that they start nickel and diming passengers, luckily not the elites (yet...).

Topic: RE: AF To Start Charging For Exit Row Seats
Username: LipeGIG
Posted 2008-04-15 19:05:56 and read 3436 times.

Wow... day after day all airlines are trying to increase revenue...

Just for fun:

- You just booked a trip with XYZ Airlines, now we offer you a wide range of additional services:

( ) Window Seat Reservation - Add US$ 25,00
( ) Aisle Seat Reservation - Add US$ 15,00
( ) Exit Row Seat Reservation - Add US$ 80,00
( ) Priority Boarding - Add US$ 25,00
( ) First 10 rows - Add US$ 10,00
( ) Insurance - Add US$ 25,00
( ) PTV Use Card - Add US$ 20,00
( ) Headset - Add US$ 5,00
( ) Hot Meal - Add US$ 30,00
( ) Sandwich - Add US$ 15,00
( ) Upgrade Waiting List - Add US$ 20,00
( ) Stand-by Feature for a Previous Flight - Add US$ 30,00
( ) 2nd Bag - US$ 30,00
( ) 3rd Bag - US$ 100,00
( ) Priority on Bag Claim - US$ 30,00
( ) Frequent Flyer Miles - US$ 30,00

Topic: RE: AF To Start Charging For Exit Row Seats
Username: CuriousFlyer
Posted 2008-04-15 19:20:02 and read 3403 times.



Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 6):
a wide range of additional services

Which elites get for free, but could well cost $400-500 per flight!

Don't give ideas to airlines.

If instead they could offer premium economy, like Qantas, VS, BA, NZ ... (UA does not count as premium for me, barely "plus"), then I'd be happy to pay a bit more.

Topic: RE: AF To Start Charging For Exit Row Seats
Username: Ktachiya
Posted 2008-04-15 19:59:48 and read 3358 times.

Well, did they get this idea from NW?

Topic: RE: AF To Start Charging For Exit Row Seats
Username: 57AZ
Posted 2008-04-15 21:02:24 and read 3300 times.



Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 6):
Wow... day after day all airlines are trying to increase revenue...

Just for fun:

- You just booked a trip with XYZ Airlines, now we offer you a wide range of additional services:

( ) Window Seat Reservation - Add US$ 25,00
( ) Aisle Seat Reservation - Add US$ 15,00
( ) Exit Row Seat Reservation - Add US$ 80,00
( ) Priority Boarding - Add US$ 25,00
( ) First 10 rows - Add US$ 10,00
( ) Insurance - Add US$ 25,00
( ) PTV Use Card - Add US$ 20,00
( ) Headset - Add US$ 5,00
( ) Hot Meal - Add US$ 30,00
( ) Sandwich - Add US$ 15,00
( ) Upgrade Waiting List - Add US$ 20,00
( ) Stand-by Feature for a Previous Flight - Add US$ 30,00
( ) 2nd Bag - US$ 30,00
( ) 3rd Bag - US$ 100,00
( ) Priority on Bag Claim - US$ 30,00
( ) Frequent Flyer Miles - US$ 30,00

You forgot to add the $5 for each use of the lavatory.

Topic: RE: AF To Start Charging For Exit Row Seats
Username: AirlineBrat
Posted 2008-04-15 21:37:30 and read 3259 times.

Quoting 57AZ (Reply 9):
You forgot to add the $5 for each use of the lavatory.

Plus a nominal $5 disposal and restocking fee if you were to use a barf bag during the flight.

[Edited 2008-04-15 21:37:52]

Topic: RE: AF To Start Charging For Exit Row Seats
Username: Lufthansa411
Posted 2008-04-15 22:39:00 and read 3203 times.



Quoting Aisak (Reply 2):
The standard for EU airlines is 20 Kg (BA being the exception with 23Kg). It's not easy to split 20 kilos into 2 bags.

LH is 2 bags, max 23 kilos each. After that they charge. So it's not just BA.

Topic: RE: AF To Start Charging For Exit Row Seats
Username: Jonathan-l
Posted 2008-04-15 23:28:33 and read 3138 times.



Quoting Skyteam10001 (Thread starter):
He also mentionned that elite members wouldn't be charged anything



Quoting Skyteam10001 (Thread starter):
the agent casually told me that "soon" AF was going to charge ppl who want to select an exit row seat

Today, most of the seats are reserved in advance by the GP travelers (non-rev). At check-in, I have never ever managed to get an exit row seat.
On one trip, I did Toulouse-Paris-Mauritius (I am Gold). In TLS, I try to get an exit row for CDG-MRU:
-Nope, sorry, they are all booked
(and check-in hadn't even opened in Paris).
In Paris, I ask one of the agents what is the deal with exit row seats. He admits that you can't get them if you're checking outside of Paris. I ask him if I would be better off if I was a non-rev. He smiles and nods.

So much for the "you can't book them in advance because we need to make sure you're fit to be in an exit seat."

Topic: RE: AF To Start Charging For Exit Row Seats
Username: Aisak
Posted 2008-04-16 02:05:45 and read 2988 times.



Quoting Lufthansa411 (Reply 11):
LH is 2 bags, max 23 kilos each

Shorthaul?? sure???

We're not talking about longhaul, becasue even those US airlines charging for the 2nd bag, don't do it on TATL flights.

Topic: RE: AF To Start Charging For Exit Row Seats
Username: Yamatthey
Posted 2008-04-16 02:15:22 and read 2960 times.



Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 6):
Wow... day after day all airlines are trying to increase revenue...

Just for fun:

- You just booked a trip with XYZ Airlines, now we offer you a wide range of additional services:

( ) Window Seat Reservation - Add US$ 25,00
( ) Aisle Seat Reservation - Add US$ 15,00
( ) Exit Row Seat Reservation - Add US$ 80,00
( ) Priority Boarding - Add US$ 25,00
( ) First 10 rows - Add US$ 10,00
( ) Insurance - Add US$ 25,00
( ) PTV Use Card - Add US$ 20,00
( ) Headset - Add US$ 5,00
( ) Hot Meal - Add US$ 30,00
( ) Sandwich - Add US$ 15,00
( ) Upgrade Waiting List - Add US$ 20,00
( ) Stand-by Feature for a Previous Flight - Add US$ 30,00
( ) 2nd Bag - US$ 30,00
( ) 3rd Bag - US$ 100,00
( ) Priority on Bag Claim - US$ 30,00
( ) Frequent Flyer Miles - US$ 30,00

Look like Air Canada... $ for Aéroplan miles, $ for meal, $ to pre-select your seat,...

Topic: RE: AF To Start Charging For Exit Row Seats
Username: Burkhard
Posted 2008-04-16 02:18:39 and read 2947 times.

You all still assume the first bag to remain free? Unlikely. FR proves that you can make money with this.

Topic: RE: AF To Start Charging For Exit Row Seats
Username: Ushermittwoch
Posted 2008-04-16 02:32:25 and read 2920 times.



Quoting Okapi (Reply 3):

On US-bound flights, you are allowed 2 bags. Max 32kg each, that's a lot free of charge !

Not in Y. It's been 2x23kg for quite a while. But if you are elite (plus), they are not too strict about it.  Smile

Topic: RE: AF To Start Charging For Exit Row Seats
Username: Cpd
Posted 2008-04-16 02:35:55 and read 2906 times.

Quoting Skyteam10001 (Thread starter):
Was just on the phone to book a trip with KL but I used the AF elite line and while selecting my seat, the agent casually told me that "soon" AF was going to charge ppl who want to select an exit row seat. He said it was going to costr EUR 50 per leg on intercontinental flights.

He also mentionned that elite members wouldn't be charged anything.

Right now on AF I believe you can't book the exit row seats before check-in so i guess for elite members it is a plus, for other ppl it kinda s*cks.

I guess AF needs to squeeze more Euros out of its customers... maybe soon they'll charge for the second bag like all the US airlines...

If someone has more info, do not hesitate to share... and apologies if this has been discussed before, I haven't seen in in any search results.

Instead of complaining, just don't fly airlines that do this kind of thing. If enough people don't fly with these kinds of airlines - it'll put pressure on already difficult finances.

Next thing they could do is pay to open the window shades - booked to your credit card. Or pay to recline the seat. The sad thing is that some airline, somewhere around the world would be gullible enough to try it in their money grabbing rush.

Or better still, I just thought of it - an auction for exit row seats! Exit rows to the highest bidder. (no returns of money if you are ineligible.

[Edited 2008-04-16 02:37:14]


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