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Topic: Memories Of BOS
Username: Aviateur
Posted 2008-06-11 17:43:00 and read 3148 times.

Some late 1970s, early 1980s memories from Boston-Logan:


Braniff

Braniff's home at BOS was the corner of terminal E, back when it was known as the Volpe terminal. They had the same gates used today by Northwest (NW was at the far end of terminal B). Just as Northwest would do later on, Braniff ran a sort of mini-hub out of Logan, with a bank of nightly departures to Europe. Amsterdam, Frankfurt, Paris. And of course London, which it operated with a 747. This in addition to the domestic runs, flown almost exclusively with 727s. I remember seeing Braniff's Calder 727s and DC-8s at Logan a few times, plus all the others: red, orange, purple, green, blue.


Air New England, et al

Ah, remember when regionals were called "commuters" and operated independently? Air New England had the biggest commuter operation at BOS, flying loads of Twin Otters and FH-227s. Plus the occasional Convair, usually leased from Aspen.

And the other commuter regulars: Bar Harbor, PBA, Pilgrim, Allegheny Commuter. Downeast. PBAs DC-3s were around till '84 or so. Who am I forgetting?


TWA 747SPs

To London, Paris, and Rome, I think. There was a "Boston Express" logo painted near the nose. That was '79 I think. They didn't have the SPs for very long.

Not to mention TWA's other visitors. The only 707 I ever flew aboard was a TWA plane -- a round-robin scenic flight that cost $10 as part of a Jimmy Fund promotion in 1978. I was in 7th grade.


Eastern

A300s on the Shuttle! Plus, throwing snowballs at those silver-skinned DC-9s and L-1011s from the roof of the old terminal A (which was designed by the same firm that built the World Trade Center, and, honestly, was a cooler building than the Terminal A now in its place.)


Charters!

World Airways, ONA, Trans-International, Capitol. DC-10s, DC-8s, 747s.


On the Cargo Side

FedEx Falcon 20s! Flying Tigers DC-8s. Seaboard World 747s. American 707Fs. And that Bristol Britannia (the only one I've ever seen), that crashed in Billerica one night after takeoff. What was that airline again? Redcoat Cargo?



And all of this, of course, was readily viewed by the old 16th floor observation deck, now closed. What a great spot that was -- arguably the single best airport observation point in the world.

If you're interested, I wrote an article about that 16th floor deck, and about BOS in general, that you can read here:

Logan redux, and the deeper meaning of airports: http://www.salon.com/tech/col/smith/2006/03/17/askthepilot178/

The story was originally commissioned by Boston Magazine, but they never ran it. Eventually I sold it to Salon instead.

Hey this is a good idea maybe -- a series of "memories of" threads, featuring different airports from different time periods.


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Topic: RE: Memories Of BOS
Username: LH423
Posted 2008-06-11 18:07:12 and read 3109 times.

Thanks for that, Aviateur. I'm a bit younger than you so I don't remember the days of Braniff or the days of PanAm and TWA 747s, however some classics I remember.


  • British Airways, TWA, and Delta L-1011s
  • Delta and US Airways Shuttle 727s from the old schemes
  • Eastwind 737s
  • Carnival 737s and A300s
  • Kiwi 727s
  • Swissair 747-300s
  • Sabena A310s


Amongst others.

I also remember the great view from the observation deck and one special day where thanks to a connection my dad knew I got to go up into the tower and check out the operations. I'll also have fond memories from the Terminal B parking garage.

Thanks. Great homage to a great airport with such history.

However, I'm getting an error message when I try the link you've posted. Might just want to give that a double check and I look forward to reading it.

LH423

Topic: RE: Memories Of BOS
Username: Lambert747
Posted 2008-06-11 18:13:07 and read 3094 times.

Awe...

No one has mentioned the older Northwest Airlines DC-10's and 747's to Europe from Boston. Or the good old days of Northwest Airlines Trans-Con services from Boston to SFO, LAX, and Seattle.. Oh the good old days!

Topic: RE: Memories Of BOS
Username: TWA1985
Posted 2008-06-11 18:14:33 and read 3089 times.

1980's...

Northwest Orient DC-10's to Minneapolis, Chicago, and points out west.

Delta 727's to Atlanta, Chicago, Bangor, etc.

TWA 747's to London, 727 service to Chicago, St. Louis. etc.

United DC-10's to Chicago

American DC-10's to Chicago

Topic: RE: Memories Of BOS
Username: Aviateur
Posted 2008-06-11 18:22:30 and read 3066 times.



Quoting LH423 (Reply 1):
However, I'm getting an error message when I try the link you've posted. Might just want to give that a double check and I look forward to reading it.

Try this one...
http://www.salon.com/tech/col/smith/2006/03/17/askthpilot178/

PS

Topic: RE: Memories Of BOS
Username: Aviateur
Posted 2008-06-11 18:28:55 and read 3058 times.

Re: Northwest at BOS

I was a pilot for NW Airlink (Northeast Express, now defunct) during Northwest's heydays at Logan, 1990-1994, based out of BOS. We fed their nightly departures to Gatwick, Frankfurt, Paris, and Amsterdam. Plus Glasgow, if I remember right. At least one of those flights (London) was a 747-200. The rest were DC-10s. When we had stretches of days off, we'd jumpseat over to Europe.

Today, the only remnant of those routes is the nightly Amsterdam flight. Same flight number, 48/49.

Prior to that, I remember NW's Prestwick, Shannon, and Copenhagen routes out of BOS, using both 747s and DC-10s.

In fact, NW may hold the record for the most nonstop European cities flown out of BOS -- albeit not all at the same time.

PS

Topic: RE: Memories Of BOS
Username: Aviateur
Posted 2008-06-11 18:31:55 and read 3057 times.



Quoting TWA1985 (Reply 3):
American DC-10's to Chicago

Or American DC-10s to LAX. Flight 11. Originally a 707. I rode that flight several times when it was a DC-10. It eventually became a 767 and, well, you know the rest....


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Topic: RE: Memories Of BOS
Username: ItalianFlyer
Posted 2008-06-11 18:49:12 and read 3018 times.

Delta 727s to YUL and PWM too!!! With an L-1011 to BDL that originated in BDA i believe.

Topic: RE: Memories Of BOS
Username: Rcardinale
Posted 2008-06-11 18:59:18 and read 3002 times.

I am much too young to remember most of what has been posted before

More recently
Sabena A330's
AA Fokkers

My most memorable moment at BOS was watching the British Airways concorde land here a few Augusts ago G-BOAD

Topic: RE: Memories Of BOS
Username: Aviateur
Posted 2008-06-11 19:00:59 and read 2996 times.

Oh, and when the DC-10s were grounded by the FAA in '79.... Swissair and Alitalia DC-8s. United 747-100s to Chicago.

And yes, DL flew TriStars daily to Bermuda.

DL's Bermuda service is one of the few old school flights still left over, now using a 737-800. Not sure if it's the same flight number.

AA flew a DC-10 from BOS to BDA. In fact that was the first "international" flight I ever rode on. I have a picture of the plane somewhere at my parents house. Ship 121. 1979.


PS

Topic: RE: Memories Of BOS
Username: BOStonsox
Posted 2008-06-11 19:06:33 and read 2982 times.

I was born in 1987 but I remember when AA had a much bigger presence than it does now. My first flight was on them from BOS-TPA in 1993. Now the only Florida destination they serve is MIA.

So what happened to the hubs? Did they go as soon as the airlines running them went out of business? NW left due to the end of a commuter airline (Republic?) and AA, while BOS may not have been a hub, for whatever reason keeps shrinking here. It would be nice to see BOS become a hub again but it's good that no particular airline controls the market.

Topic: RE: Memories Of BOS
Username: ItalianFlyer
Posted 2008-06-11 19:15:45 and read 2962 times.

When i lived in BOS as a kid in the late 80s and early 90s DL,AA,US,UA,TW,EA and of course NW all had large presences....with NW being the only one calling it a "hub" and DL being a close second. Wonder why the pull down (or what appears to be a pull down) over the past 10 years. I know MHT and PVD have taken some of the suburban traffic away. And MASSPORT took its sweet time updating the facilities. Any idea or observations?

Topic: RE: Memories Of BOS
Username: ChrisNH
Posted 2008-06-11 19:17:23 and read 2959 times.

What a great topic! I lived in suburban Boston (Concord) during the 1970s and into the very early 1980s before moving up to southern New Hampshire.

I also flew on AA 11 several times, the first being in 1973 when it was a DC-10 with the piano bar (!) in the rear. Sadly, I also saw the ill-fated AA 11 767 lifting off from Logan on 9/11. I remember it distinctly, as I was on a commuter rail train just pulling into North Station and I saw her pass over the Bunker Hill Monument.

Other memories: I was at Logan once in the mid-1970s and being shocked at seeing an Aer Lingus 747. At the time, the service to Shannon was a 707...or so I thought.

I also recall the TWA 747-SPs which connected Boston with both Rome and Los Angeles, and, yes, there was some unique graphics on the nose of that plane.

Other short-lived services: BWIA with a L1011-500 or -250 (not sure which); I recall seeing an Olympic 747 in the 1990s; United 747 'Friendship' service on the BOS-SFO route in summers (AA 747s to LAX in summers as well); occasional British Airways VC-10s during the winter; American Airlines 707 cargo jets; Eastern Airlines 757s. Delta 757s between Boston and Portland, Maine (!); Sabena DC-10s.

Also, the whole concept of 'Double Dailies' on European runs was unheard of! Each airline had ONE flight and that was it.

Topic: RE: Memories Of BOS
Username: LH423
Posted 2008-06-11 20:00:27 and read 2906 times.



Quoting Aviateur (Reply 4):
Try this one...

Thanks!

Quoting Aviateur (Reply 5):
Plus Glasgow, if I remember right.

Indeed. NW served PIK.

Quoting Aviateur (Reply 5):
Same flight number, 48/49.

Was that the traditional flight number? Current AMS flight numbers are 37/38 and 59/60.

Quoting Rcardinale (Reply 8):
My most memorable moment at BOS was watching the British Airways concorde land here a few Augusts ago G-BOAD

Sure that wasn't October of 2003? Did you happen to see it take off? If you did...*ahem* I was on it *end self gloss*

Quoting BOStonsox (Reply 10):
So what happened to the hubs?

Well, again, as you said, no airline ever maintained a full hub. However, in the face of rising fuel prices and the increased presence of LCCs, the traditional airlines have been retrenching into their hubs. So while AA, in particular, has severely cut back their service, airlines like jetBlue and AirTran have gone from not even flying to BOS or having minimal service to the main hub cities, to have respectable networks. In fact, B6 now flies to more non-stop destinations from BOS than any other airline and BOS is now the second biggest city in their network. Not bad for an airline that didn't even fly to BOS five years ago.

LH423

Topic: RE: Memories Of BOS
Username: Nyc77k
Posted 2008-06-11 20:05:03 and read 2897 times.

During the mid 90s I would travel a few times a year DCA-BOS-YUL and back on DL. YUL and BOS were usually a 72S, but for a few years the first flight of the day was a 762, routing was YUL-BOS-ATL-PBI. Flight usually had about 30 people aboard. They also served breakfest. The flight from YUL would usually park between two L10s going to MCO and ATL. BOS looked pretty great with all the widebodies.

Topic: RE: Memories Of BOS
Username: PWM2TXLHopper
Posted 2008-06-11 20:45:27 and read 2856 times.

I miss seeing the giant green Aer Lingus 747 classics that would come in from DUB.

And of course Eastern, TWA, Pan Am, People Express, and I think Piedmont was there too?

Can't forget the disaster in 1981 when the World DC-10 went off the end of the runway into the harbor and broke apart.

Oh, and I remember fondly the days not too long ago when you could spend all day spotting on top of the Terminal B parking garage without being confronted by the state police and being forced to leave.

Quoting ItalianFlyer (Reply 11):
with NW being the only one calling it a "hub" and DL being a close second.

If anybody ever had a true Hub there it was Business Express (Delta Connection) We use to have flight between BOS and PWM every hour from 7am-7pm. Most other cities throughout the Northeast did as well. They almost always had a dozen planes or more on the apron. Prior to the late 1990's when they only flew SF-340's, in the late 80's and early 1990's you'd see the -340's on the ramp along with B1900's and Bae-146's.

Quoting ItalianFlyer (Reply 7):
Delta 727s to YUL and PWM too!!

And 757's and DC-9's as well to PWM. They also had mainline flights to MHT which is even close to Boston than PWM!

USair also had DC-9's to PWM as well! A mere 100 miles away!

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Topic: RE: Memories Of BOS
Username: Ordpark
Posted 2008-06-11 20:51:02 and read 2847 times.

Ah the memories!!! BOS is, and always will be, my favorite airport....I've been in the industry for over 36 years now, but I started on the ramp with Executive Airlines in 1973 - than to Air New England after Exec failed...I returned to BOS last year with my daughter and the first thing I had to do was go visit the ramp area (my daughter thinks I'm crazy, by the way, but humored me none the less) But looking out over that ramp brought back such great memories! I guess you really have to be an airplane geek to fully understand that. The 16th floor observation deck was indeed the greatest public deck I have ever seen but BOS had some great outside decks as well...most notably on the roof of what is now the JetBlue and United piers....

One can only hope that some day, some airport will be able to open up an outdoor deck again...I'm convinced that kids get hooked on aviation by being able to get close to airplanes and observation decks go a long way towards that end...

Topic: RE: Memories Of BOS
Username: LH423
Posted 2008-06-11 20:59:15 and read 2827 times.

A few others. Piedmont and Midway both the original and the reincarnation.

I also remember meeting a friend of a friend off a NW flight from RSW. That doesn't happen anymore.

LH423

Topic: RE: Memories Of BOS
Username: WidgetBoi
Posted 2008-06-11 21:19:22 and read 2808 times.

Wow, I picked the wrong time to live in Boston.


:-/

Topic: RE: Memories Of BOS
Username: BOStonsox
Posted 2008-06-11 22:13:23 and read 2774 times.



Quoting ItalianFlyer (Reply 11):
DL,AA,US,UA,TW,EA and of course NW all had large presences

DL still does, although they keep adding and subtracting flights.
AA back in 2004 served over 30 destinations, which is where B6 is right now. I wonder how big they were at their apex here in BOS.
US still has a focus city, but they've been stagnant lately.
UA had a big presence? Where did they fly to from here? I know they went to LHR at one point. Did they serve anywhere outside of there and its hubs?
TW probably gave some of its routes to AA when it merged.
EA is gone.
Braniff I believe ended the BOS hub when they went under.

Passenger numbers have increased, certainly the number of flights have right? I think that despite the diminishing of some focus cities here people don't realize the number of flights each airline has. Look at B6. Yes, they serve over 30 destinations, but look at how many of these destinations have more than one flight.

Topic: RE: Memories Of BOS
Username: Tommy767
Posted 2008-06-11 22:40:02 and read 2767 times.



Quoting BOStonsox (Reply 19):
UA had a big presence? Where did they fly to from here? I know they went to LHR at one point. Did they serve anywhere outside of there and its hubs?

I think they peaked around 2000 with just shy of 50 flights per day to all the hubs plus JFK on an A320 and LHR, which was operated with a 763 until post 9/11. UA still has a base there, and be thankful you guys still have that. Airports like EWR, JFK, and MIA have since lost much of mainline UA presence since those bases have closed.

Topic: RE: Memories Of BOS
Username: Lambert747
Posted 2008-06-11 22:40:37 and read 2768 times.

Didnt Korean Air fly BOS-JFK-SEL or BOS-IAD-SEL with the 747-400 at one time?

Topic: RE: Memories Of BOS
Username: ChrisNH
Posted 2008-06-12 02:32:38 and read 2709 times.

Speaking of Piedmont, didn't they have a 767-200 flight from Boston to Frankfurt for a short period of time?

Topic: RE: Memories Of BOS
Username: 737tanker
Posted 2008-06-12 02:54:57 and read 2696 times.



Quoting Aviateur (Thread starter):
And the other commuter regulars: Bar Harbor, PBA, Pilgrim, Allegheny Commuter. Downeast. PBAs DC-3s were around till '84 or so. Who am I forgetting?

Some that you are forgetting Precision Airlines, Air Vermont, and Business Express.

Topic: RE: Memories Of BOS
Username: Cs03
Posted 2008-06-12 04:05:17 and read 2668 times.

Yes, taking Precision Airlines from RUT to BOS was always a thrill, with a stop at VSF and EEN. In 1978, a Piper was used, then Beech 99, and finally the Dornier 228. I remember the bar on the floor below the observation deck well, and seeing the American Airlines 707 freighters on the North Ramp. Another memory is the disinct sound of a PBA DC3 heading to the Cape!

Topic: RE: Memories Of BOS
Username: Airbazar
Posted 2008-06-12 04:13:45 and read 2665 times.



Quoting Ordpark (Reply 16):
One can only hope that some day, some airport will be able to open up an outdoor deck again...

There are plenty of them, most notably AMS and FRA.

Topic: RE: Memories Of BOS
Username: GhYHZ
Posted 2008-06-12 05:23:02 and read 2741 times.



Quoting Aviateur (Reply 5):
I was a pilot for NW Airlink (Northeast Express, now defunct) during Northwest's heydays at Logan, 1990-1994, based out of BOS

Ah.....NW Airlink! Remember them well and flew on them often between BOS and YQM (Moncton). For awhile in the ‘90s they had the Maritimes pretty well covered from BOS with service to YYG, YSJ, YFC and YHZ and up to 5 flights a day to YQM. Business must have been good with some flights up-gauged from Metroliners to Dash-8s.

Thanks for the memories!

Topic: RE: Memories Of BOS
Username: STT757
Posted 2008-06-12 07:12:22 and read 2658 times.

My memory is from '83/'85, flying Piedmont 737-200s nonstop from EWR to BOS to go to Ted Williams baseball camp.

Topic: RE: Memories Of BOS
Username: LH423
Posted 2008-06-12 07:20:41 and read 2651 times.



Quoting BOStonsox (Reply 19):
AA back in 2004 served over 30 destinations, which is where B6 is right now. I wonder how big they were at their apex here in BOS

I'd imagine their peak was right after they took over BizEx. BizEx has quite the operation back in the day, easily the busiest airline at BOS. Since then, they completely dismantled that network. I think the ultimate goal for Eagle buying BizEx was to get their earlier ERJ-135 delivery slots.

Quoting Lambert747 (Reply 21):
Didnt Korean Air fly BOS-JFK-SEL or BOS-IAD-SEL with the 747-400 at one time?

Indeed, they did.

Quoting ChrisNH (Reply 22):
Speaking of Piedmont, didn't they have a 767-200 flight from Boston to Frankfurt for a short period of time?

Indeed, they did. However, I believe it was USAir, unless Piedmont did as well. Apparently, the route did satisfactorily but US needed the plane in PHL since it coincided when US was really starting to ramp up int'l ops out of PHL. I remember seeing those shiny USAir 767s landing a couple of times.

LH423

Topic: RE: Memories Of BOS
Username: WA707atMSP
Posted 2008-06-12 07:21:49 and read 2655 times.



Quoting Aviateur (Thread starter):
Braniff ran a sort of mini-hub out of Logan, with a bank of nightly departures to Europe. Amsterdam, Frankfurt, Paris. And of course London, which it operated with a 747.

One minor correction: Braniff never flew BOS-London. Braniff's only route to London was from D / FW.

For many years, Pan Am, TWA, and BOAC / British Airways all flew BOS-LHR. PA's flights routed DTW-BOS-LHR in the late 1970s, with full local traffic rights DTW-BOS; this was the only route within the 48 contiguous states where PA was allowed to carry local traffic.

However, after the Bermuda II agreement between the US and the UK in 1977, only two routes to LHR were allowed to have two US carriers: JFK, and either BOS or LAX. Pan Am was allowed to serve either LHR-BOS or LHR-LAX after the agreement was signed, but not both, and they chose LHR-LAX.

In the early 1980s, a separate agreement was signed with the UK, allowing a second US carrier to serve BOS-London, as long as the flight went to LGW instead of LHR. The agreement was signed after Braniff's collapse, and BOS-LGW was awarded to Northwest Orient.

Topic: RE: Memories Of BOS
Username: Dtwclipper
Posted 2008-06-12 07:44:56 and read 2662 times.

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Topic: RE: Memories Of BOS
Username: DALMD88
Posted 2008-06-12 08:16:16 and read 2598 times.



Quoting Aviateur (Thread starter):
And the other commuter regulars: Bar Harbor, PBA, Pilgrim, Allegheny Commuter. Downeast. PBAs DC-3s were around till '84 or so. Who am I forgetting?

Empire from SYR which was absorbed into Piedmont. Then in the early 90's there was Mohawk also from SYR.

Topic: RE: Memories Of BOS
Username: FlyPBA
Posted 2008-06-12 08:19:23 and read 2589 times.

you forgot Gull Air, Precison, and Valley Airlines,

Topic: RE: Memories Of BOS
Username: CF-CPI
Posted 2008-06-12 08:27:40 and read 2570 times.

I know that BOS was visited by TWA 880s 'back in the day', and let's not forget the 880 Yellowbirds of Northeast. Did AA ever fly Convair 990s into Boston?

Topic: RE: Memories Of BOS
Username: Flyer62
Posted 2008-06-12 09:28:34 and read 2511 times.

I used to fly from BOS-PWM-BOS in the 80s while I was in college,and it was on DL 7572.727s,UsAir MD-80s,737-200,737-300 and DC-9 30s and even Presidential airways had a daily RT on their B-737-100/200! Airfares were between 39.00 each way to 59.00 each way! these flights were almost always full whenever I flew the route,which was 2-3 times a month! delta did away with jet service to Bos saying the route was becoming a money loser! of course it was,they were charging at the end close to $198.00 to 215.00 RT to fly on a 20 min flight to BOS! no one in their right mind would pay that fare,and even worse the jets were changed to B-1900s and sabb 340s also dornier 228s! and still charging the sky high airfare on a puddle jumper,you could fly all the way to florida cheaper than BOS! thats why the PWM -BOS route became unprofitable,and Delta became greedy and UsAirways copied them. Delta used to be a big player at PWM but now they downgraded service to horriable CRJS to CVG and CRJ-700s to ATL! the big D lost business to other airlines that serve PWM with better fares,schedules and service,Airtran,Jetblue are now number one at PWM,and since Delta does not offer mainline service here anymore or reasonable fares,I do not fly Delta anymore,their service is not what it used to be,fares much to high,bad service! and as for BOS I now take the train to Boston at only $38.00 RT

Topic: RE: Memories Of BOS
Username: Rob2507
Posted 2008-06-12 10:39:51 and read 2451 times.



Quoting Cs03 (Reply 24):
Another memory is the disinct sound of a PBA DC3 heading to the Cape!

One of my favorite sounds growing up, as they flew over my house all day. They were heading due north/south, so I assume they were doing BOS - MVY.

As you drive down the departure level of terminal B, look up just before you get to the end of the US side--there is still a Business Express sign up there!

Topic: RE: Memories Of BOS
Username: GhYHZ
Posted 2008-06-12 11:21:48 and read 2398 times.

Memories.......

Air Canada (originally Trans Canada Airlines) Viscounts from BOS to YQI (Yarmouth) YSJ & YHZ.....Oh the whine of those Rolls Royce Darts!

Later....Air Nova & Air Atlantic Dash 8's.

Topic: RE: Memories Of BOS
Username: BOStonsox
Posted 2008-06-12 11:34:35 and read 2386 times.



Quoting Flyer62 (Reply 34):
as for BOS I now take the train to Boston at only $38.00 RT

Certainly not for the airport, for that you can take Concord Trailways for $44 RT and arrive right at the airport instead of arriving at North Station and then taking the orange and blue lines to the shuttle bus to get to BOS.

Quoting WA707atMSP (Reply 29):
BOS-LGW was awarded to Northwest Orient.

DL took that route over after NW left, right?

Topic: RE: Memories Of BOS
Username: PWM2TXLHopper
Posted 2008-06-12 12:36:48 and read 2352 times.

Quoting Flyer62 (Reply 34):
hese flights were almost always full whenever I flew the route,which was 2-3 times a month! delta did away with jet service to Bos saying the route was becoming a money loser! of course it was,they were charging at the end close to $198.00 to 215.00 RT to fly on a 20 min flight to BOS! no one in their right mind would pay that fare,and even worse the jets were changed to B-1900s and sabb 340s also dornier 228s! and still charging the sky high airfare on a puddle jumper,you could fly all the way to florida cheaper than BOS! thats why the PWM -BOS route became unprofitable,and Delta became greedy and UsAirways copied them.

You're right, these flights weren't really aimed at attracting passengers who just wanted to fly to BOS, or from BOS-PWM. Back in the day, DL had no non-stop flights to ATL from PWM. They all went through BOS or LGA or CVG, and then on to ATL. The daily majority going via BOS. These flights were designed more as connecting flights to BOS where you could either make a connection to other flights, or continue on the same plane to ATL for more even more connection opportunities.

Going back to the mid to late 1970's, Northeast Airlines-Yellow Bird, and then DL (after the buy out) even flew DC-9's between BOS-PQI. Pres Isle, Maine. Did anybody remember to mention "The Yellowbird"


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Topic: RE: Memories Of BOS
Username: TUNisia
Posted 2008-06-12 12:45:28 and read 2331 times.

Anyone remember the Pan Am Cargo sign that was up at Logan until at least the mid 90s? I remember that as a little kid whenever we flew out of Logan.

I also remember that I was on one of the last if not the last L-1011 flights into BOS on TWA from STL. The pilot made a long announcement about it after we landed and said the plane would be out in the desert after a few days. This was in September 1997.

BOS hold so many memories for me, and really is my favorite airport in the US.

Topic: RE: Memories Of BOS
Username: ChrisNH
Posted 2008-06-12 12:48:45 and read 2332 times.

Dear Santa Claus:

I've been a good boy. All I want for Christmas is Northeast Airlines back. It was fun having Delta Air Lines, but they've turned into a mean old grouch around here.

We miss the Yellowbirds...

Your friend,

Chris

Topic: RE: Memories Of BOS
Username: Ordpark
Posted 2008-06-12 13:27:18 and read 2285 times.



Quoting Airbazar (Reply 25):

I was referring to decks in this country....sorry I wasn't more specific...

Topic: RE: Memories Of BOS
Username: Apodino
Posted 2008-06-12 13:58:41 and read 2269 times.

I grew up in BOS and spend many a saturday afternoon at the airport, and thus I know it intimately, even with all the changes over the years, and I even remember going to Castle Island frequently. I used to love the 9-4R operations, since the planes landed over your head, and you had a great view of the takeoffs.


I remember back in the day's when I first got interested in Aviation. It was the early 90's and Eastern had sold the shuttle to Donald Trump. (What is now the USAirways Shuttle). Terminal A had Eastern, Continental, and the Trump Shuttle. It was sad to see it go, but it had to be replaced for a number of reasons (Building was showing its age, plus some gates were unusable due to the Big Dig). I can remember the old landmark coming into the airport from the Tunnel being the Eastern Airlines hangar, that said fly Eastern Airlines.

Terminal B at the time had USAir where they still are, and I think Digital electronics used to run some sort of helicopter service from there. Midwest Express was ground handled by USAir at the time, and was here as well. The south end of the other side of B (Where MQ is now), was where Pan Am was, and Midway 1 was. The strange thing was that the Midway ticket counter was directly between the Pan Am and the Pan Am Shuttle Ticket counter. America West also had a ticket counter there, and had their own gate and own security checkpoint (about where the current AA checkpoint is) AA was where they are now, and it was before renovation, so AA only had 7 gates at the time. Virgin Atlantic was just starting BOS service at the time, and used another ticket counter near AA, and UA had acquired two gates in B themselves, but VS used one for their nightly LGW departure (Which is now LHR) Cape Air also used the area near AA at the time. Sabena was handled by AA in the terminal, and the A310 was a beautful thing to see.

Terminal C was Delta, United and TWA forever. I remember a place that used to sell Pizzeria Regina in here, as well as Richie's slush. Good stuff. DL had most of the gates that B6 now occupies, United used gates 25 and 27, and also had 40 and 41 (and 42 and 43 if you count the two in B). TWA used the gates that United now occupies, and Business Express had a huge operation from that side as well.

Terminal D was just a charter terminal, though Alitalia did build a ticket counter there and used it for a few years.

Terminal E is much different then than it was now. NW widebodies were a common site, with five daily international departures, and precision and northeast express gave NW Airlink a significant presence in BOS. (In fact, I would venture to say that 1 out of every two departures was either Business Express or Northwest Airlink.) Internationally, you would see the Aer Lingus 747, BA had one Daily 747 to LHR, Air France had a 747 four times a week, Lufthansa brought in a DC 10, TAP had an A310.

All in all, it was a much different looking airport than it is now. Business Express had the Saabs, Shorts 360, and B 1900's, NW airlink had DO 228s, and Fairchild Metro's. UA, AA, DL, and NW all had regular Widebody service at the time. I believe that AA is the only one left with Widebody aside from the once a day NW A330.

Topic: RE: Memories Of BOS
Username: Dtwclipper
Posted 2008-06-12 18:32:08 and read 2173 times.

Some more pics of New York Air at BOS



Topic: RE: Memories Of BOS
Username: Tu154
Posted 2008-06-13 10:51:43 and read 1980 times.

what a great topic.

Working on the ground for Piedmont in the 1980's, I was on the ramp quite often plane spotting.

I used to see those PBA DC-3's lumber down the runway, Eastern DC-10's and L1011's.
United used to have quite a few DC-10's in the far corner of terminal C and TWA 747 and L1011's taking off for JFK.

Pan Am A300's and lot's of 727's, mostly shuttle, and the odd 737-200 to JFK.

UA and DL DC-8's

AA 747-SP came in a few times, and some great airlines/airplanes when JFK was closed.
Soviet bloc airlines/aircraft, middle east airlines, etc.

Topic: RE: Memories Of BOS
Username: Flyer62
Posted 2008-06-13 12:08:27 and read 1920 times.

the downeaster stops at Woburn transportation center daily and the logan express busses are right there.there is no need to take the bus into south station and catch the bus to BOS,when you can step of the train and a few steps the bus is waiting to take you to logan.no need to take the orange line and blueline and the train is cheaper and faster,more comfortable than a bus

Topic: RE: Memories Of BOS
Username: BOStonsox
Posted 2008-06-13 12:37:20 and read 1903 times.



Quoting Flyer62 (Reply 45):
the downeaster stops at Woburn transportation center daily and the logan express busses are right there.there is no need to take the bus into south station and catch the bus to BOS,when you can step of the train and a few steps the bus is waiting to take you to logan.no need to take the orange line and blueline and the train is cheaper and faster,more comfortable than a bus

The Concord Trailways bus runs nonstop to the airport. Although you're right, you can go to Woburn. If you prefer a train that is the way to do it if you're going to the airport. I would probably prefer the bus since it is one less transfer.

Topic: RE: Memories Of BOS
Username: FlyPBA
Posted 2008-06-16 18:41:49 and read 1652 times.

from the early 1980s

http://www.wa98121.us/buzz/photos/PBA/548919702.jpg

from the 1970s (I think)

http://www.wa98121.us/buzz/photos/PBA/AT8463jp.jpg

[Edited 2008-06-16 18:43:57]


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