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Topic: Sending Support To Frontier Airlines
Username: Aloha717200
Posted 2008-07-07 23:20:05 and read 4429 times.

We've done a lot of talking lately over many threads about what we fear will be the end of Frontier, and I'm sure most of us hope that will not be the case.

But I feel strongly enough about this particular airline to do more than just chat in a forum about it, and instead put my thoughts to good use, and so I've done two things to show support to Frontier directly, and I want to use this thread as a place to encourage others to do the same.

First of all, I sent the airline a letter through their website, and though I haven't received a reply, I hope that it brightens someone's day over there. I imagine it will be some time before someone reads it, but hopefully, eventually, they will.

But secondly and perhaps more helpfully, I'm booking flights on Frontier for September, for no other reason than to support the business and get a chance to fly on them while I still have a chance. Since the general theory here is that September will be their last "good" month for a while, I figure I have a reasonable chance of successfully flying them in that month, should the worst happen, god forbid.

I'm saving $10 a day toward my goal, and I hope by the end of the month to have the airfare in hand and complete the booking. I make very low income, part time delivery with very meager tips. I'm saving it all for Frontier. It doesn't help that travel agencies and other airlines are already moving away from agreements with the airline in anticipation of its demise, so I feel that even though I'll only be contributing airfare for two people roundtrip, at least it's business coming Frontier's way, and I hope it helps in some very small way.

For us Frontier fans, I think that, regardless of what ends up happening at the airline, we should all send a letter of support to the airline, or talk to an employee, or something of that nature, just to brighten someone's day over there. Knowing someone else cares is a really helpful stress management tool, and since we care about airlines more than your average joe, I think we can help.

Anyone else plan on booking a flight with them soon?

[Edited 2008-07-07 23:27:25]

Topic: RE: Sending Support To Frontier Airlines
Username: Aloha717200
Posted 2008-07-07 23:24:16 and read 4416 times.

BTW here is the letter I sent:


Hello Frontier Airlines,

My wife and I want to send a letter of support to your airline during this hard economic time. My wife flew Frontier to escape Hurricane Rita in 2005 and had an absolutely wonderful flight from Houston to Salt Lake City via Denver. Since that time we have hoped to have another flight on Frontier, though the financial obligations in our first year of marriage have prevented us from being able to afford a flight so far. As we enter our second year of marriage, we were hoping to do more traveling, and planned to do it all on Frontier.

So as you can imagine it pains us to see your airline struggling with high fuel prices; outrageously inflated by speculation, when in truth the supply is enough to keep prices reasonable.

In addition, I have been an aviation enthusiast my whole life, and my wife has taken the same interest since flying Frontier. Her two sole flights on your airline sparked a new passion for flying in her, and it was this mutual passion for aviation that eventually brought us closer together and perhaps even made our marriage possible. Frontier started it all. So as you can see, as we really get started in our life together, we really want the airline that started it all to hang in there and pull through. You guys are our airline and while I myself haven't had the chance to fly you yet, my wife's amazing experience had me yearning for the chance as soon as we were able. My aviation enthusiast friends who have had the chance to fly with you have all been positively glowing in their reviews of the flights they've taken.

To many, Frontier Airlines really is a different animal, one which must survive for there are no others like it. And for some, Frontier is close to our hearts in a very personal way, and to lose it would truly break our hearts. To us, Frontier is both. We love you, and wish you and your employees the best, and hope to fly you again someday soon.

Best Wishes

Topic: RE: Sending Support To Frontier Airlines
Username: JetBlueAUS
Posted 2008-07-07 23:25:25 and read 4419 times.



Quoting Aloha717200 (Thread starter):
Anyone else plan on booking a flight with them soon?

I am definitely wanting to book on them for the first of August to DRO, but I am not so sure anymore...

Topic: RE: Sending Support To Frontier Airlines
Username: DaCubbyBearBar
Posted 2008-07-08 03:39:37 and read 4310 times.

I am booking 2 LAS-DEN trips on them in September, GO BRONCOS, but I am using my credit card, just in case. I love the "D" gates in LAS. Very nice letter! ALOHA and MAHALO for the F9 support.

Topic: RE: Sending Support To Frontier Airlines
Username: Denverdanny
Posted 2008-07-08 04:16:00 and read 4276 times.

I just booked a flight yesterday morning to SFO in 2 weeks. Frontier is always my first choice, and I've been choosing them first since they started up. Love their aircraft and the service.

I remember when they first started up they were serving destinations UA or CO had dropped up north in Montana and the Dakotas as I remember. They've grown a lot since then and glad to see they offer so many more destinations to choose from now. I was at the Denver Library here a few weeks ago and they have a special album on Frontier in the Great Western Reading Room. Was very cool to thumb through that and see old pics, schedules, press clips and other documents from the original airline. It was interesting to see how similar the route system is today to what it was with the original Frontier. Frontier has really high home town support. We love it here. So, that may help it through.

[Edited 2008-07-08 04:24:56]

Topic: RE: Sending Support To Frontier Airlines
Username: N917ME
Posted 2008-07-08 04:31:36 and read 4242 times.

To all F9 employees..
I wish you all the best! You guys are great. Keep your heads up high, keep up the great customer service. Ignore those who love to predict doom and gloom and are licking their chops to see an airline fail...
SHUN THE NON-BELIEVERS... SSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHUUUUUUUUUNNNNNNNNNNNN!

Topic: RE: Sending Support To Frontier Airlines
Username: Petteri
Posted 2008-07-08 04:31:40 and read 4242 times.

Thank you for the support! I'm thinking that we'll be around for a while longer! This is a tough business to be in right now, and not just for Frontier. There are jobs cuts going around the entire industry. Again, thank you for your support. I'm sure everyone else at Frontier appreciates your letter. These kind of things do make the rounds within the company, so even if you don't get a formal acknowledgment, be assured that it is noted!

Topic: RE: Sending Support To Frontier Airlines
Username: HP737
Posted 2008-07-08 09:37:29 and read 4061 times.

Hi everyone,

I am hoping that F9 survives...they are a great airline and truly a "whole different animal". We have been flying F9 out of MKE since they began service there in 2003 on our trips out West. Everytime it's been an enjoyable experience....everyone from agents, to pilots, to FAs, all have really been pleasant to deal with.

Then there was the one time when I showed up 12 hours early for a flight at 6 AM when I was scheduled at 6 PM (boy, talk about a brain cramp!) they were very accomodating even while I was standing there feeling totally stupid for something like that. Both agents in MKE and DEN were very cool about it...and got me to my destination with no problems.

We have booked flights in April for October, MKE-DEN-PHX. Just noticed on the website that shere have been some schedule changes and our flights from MKE to DEN are still showing, but there are some changes with DEN-PHX. Not a big concern for us right now as we were expecting some changes in light of all the turmoil in the industry. We will just see what happens, fortunately we have some flexibility. But really hope we can fly them in October!

Topic: RE: Sending Support To Frontier Airlines
Username: TheGreatChecko
Posted 2008-07-08 09:51:55 and read 4024 times.

The letters do make the rounds. Some are actually posted on the front page of the internal website and it does make a difference.

Quoting JetBlueAUS (Reply 2):
I am definitely wanting to book on them for the first of August to DRO, but I am not so sure anymore...

Lynx will be flying in August, I can pretty much guarantee it. Also flying on the Q400 beats the Mesa baby Dashes any day. It gets to altitude quicker, more comfortable, quieter, and its faster which mean less time flying through the thunderstorms.

If you are nervous, just use the credit card.

Checko

Topic: RE: Sending Support To Frontier Airlines
Username: FrmrCAPCADET
Posted 2008-07-08 10:14:03 and read 3956 times.

If you are a Frontier fan definitely book a flight, maybe not a critical flight during the holidays, like getting to a Wedding around Christmas time.

Topic: RE: Sending Support To Frontier Airlines
Username: Azstar
Posted 2008-07-08 15:06:46 and read 3806 times.

Wow, Aloha717200. It's nice to see some F9 fans out there, in addition to the haters. I would not have any concerns about booking F9 in the future. You are fully protected by credit card purchases, so you've got nothing to lose. I'm a Summit Member and I'll continue to fly them.

Topic: RE: Sending Support To Frontier Airlines
Username: RonmacIAH
Posted 2008-07-08 17:52:20 and read 3688 times.

We're flying Frontier from IAH to DEN in August and again in November. Even though we usually fly our hometown airline (CO), we've had many good experiences with F9 on the IAH to DEN runs and will certainly continue to support them.

Topic: RE: Sending Support To Frontier Airlines
Username: AWACSooner
Posted 2008-07-08 17:55:28 and read 3680 times.

I've booked them for my wife, stepson, his girlfriend and myself to fly from OKC-LAS on August 15th...

I prefer B over A...but I gladly fly F9 whenever I get the chance.

Here's hoping that I can continue to fly to DEN and go to the "zoo."

Topic: RE: Sending Support To Frontier Airlines
Username: TylerDurden
Posted 2008-07-08 18:12:07 and read 3641 times.



Quoting Aloha717200 (Thread starter):
It doesn't help that travel agencies and other airlines are already moving away from agreements with the airline in anticipation of its demise

I noticed this. Our corporate agent---one of the nation's largest---won't book them at all. They put on on CO and WN. In fact, a couple flights were moved from F9 to WN. I'm sure this compounds the problem.

Quoting FrmrCAPCADET (Reply 9):
If you are a Frontier fan definitely book a flight, maybe not a critical flight during the holidays

From an enthusiast standpoint, it would be fun. From a business perspective--doubtful.
Unless it is some random trip...you might get stranded at your destination.

Quoting Azstar (Reply 10):
You are fully protected by credit card purchases, so you've got nothing to lose

Careful in that recommendation is that getting a credit is sometimes an extremely lengthy procedure and in some cases does not fully protect the consumer 100%.

But..good luck to Frontier this fall---I won't be flying you until 2009---hopefully!

Topic: RE: Sending Support To Frontier Airlines
Username: SAN787
Posted 2008-07-08 19:06:33 and read 3559 times.

Aloha717200 and all others...great to see the positive spirit!! Like you all, I purposely booked 3 round-trips in the next 3 months on Frontier simply to support who they are and the great service they have given me in the past.

Heads up high F9ers!!

Topic: RE: Sending Support To Frontier Airlines
Username: F9Animal
Posted 2008-07-08 19:39:32 and read 3510 times.

This thread really made my day guys and gals. While I no longer work for F9, I still support them, and love them. Working at F9 taught me alot about life. My coworkers were some of the best, and really brought out the best in me. Airplaneboy was a great influence on my outlook of bringing service to the customer, which was something I never took seriously until meeting him. He always had a smile, and still does to this day.

It was not always the greatest of times, as any airline faces weather, cancellations, and issues of some sort. But, we stuck together and supported eachother. We lived by the values of being "different animals", and we grew upon that. When times were good, boy did we have fun. Like being sent to other stations to open them, and the holiday parties were so fun.

We did not have a seperation of workforces either. I never felt uncomfortable chatting with the pilots while they signed paperwork, and the FA's would always allow me to thank the customers for flying us. I can't tell you how many times we were short handed on the ramp, sometimes running from the bin, to the bottom of the loader, to throw 10 bags on the belt to just run back up to load them. When the pilots would observe this action during their preflight check, they would actually take off their jacket, and huck bags on the belt to help us. Flight Attendants would always assist us in cleaning the planes for a quick turn, and offer us treats for the hard work.

When I saluted my planes off, I would be sure to stand straight, and take that moment to appreciate our little airline. But most importantly, my customer was the most important part of my job. Long live Frontier Airlines, and thank you so much for showing the support. I too will support Frontier, and I will book a trip to ASE this winter. The people of Frontier really make F9 special. If you have not had a chance to meet with any of them, do so. F9 has always found some special people to bring on board.

Topic: RE: Sending Support To Frontier Airlines
Username: AirplaneBoy
Posted 2008-07-09 01:46:16 and read 3402 times.

Thank you all for your support - that truly means a lot to those of us who hear negative rumors on a daily basis. Many of us still love Frontier and our jobs and are hoping for the best. I hope you all enjoy your experiences on F9. I think it's generally easier for people to focus on the negative, rather than on the positive aspects of things. Thank you for your support and realizing that every customer we retain helps!  Smile

F9Animal- thanks for the compliments!  Smile I can only say the same about yourself - your enthusiasm for the industry and customer service is contagious!! I can't believe it's already been 4 years since we first met in SEA. Time sure does fly!

Topic: RE: Sending Support To Frontier Airlines
Username: ElBandGeek
Posted 2008-07-09 09:59:43 and read 3308 times.

I've been hoping to go back to Colorado in the near future. Hopefully I'll be able to go on F9 since the alternatives for me are UA and WN (nothing wrong with WN, but something different would be nice....UA on the other hand, we're just not gonna talk about them)

Last time I was there was a few years ago and I flew MDW-DEN on TZ and it was great trip so I really wanna go back. I've wanted to fly F9 for no other reason then I really am a sucker for cute animals  blush 

Topic: RE: Sending Support To Frontier Airlines
Username: Aloha717200
Posted 2008-07-09 14:39:33 and read 3207 times.



Quoting ElBandGeek (Reply 17):
I've wanted to fly F9 for no other reason then I really am a sucker for cute animals

Same here, I love that F9 really gives each plane its own personality, which in today's age of standardization and cost-reduction is kind of rare anymore. If F9 does survive I hope they don't opt to cut costs by changing to a more standard universal livery.

I hope it's true what many here say that Menke would rather reduce the fleet to three aircraft than liquidate the airline. As long as F9 is around, it could eventually regrow, and with the passion that all the employees of that airline have, I'm sure they'd want to come back on board in the future.

Good to see so many F9 employees and former employees in this thread...you guys hang in there because we're all pulling for you. You make F9 one of the greatest domestic airlines around.

Topic: RE: Sending Support To Frontier Airlines
Username: Azstar
Posted 2008-07-09 15:21:34 and read 3148 times.



Quoting Aloha717200 (Reply 1):
Careful in that recommendation is that getting a credit is sometimes an extremely lengthy procedure and in some cases does not fully protect the consumer 100%.

Not true. It's a simple procedure. In the event of a shutdown you simply request a refund from the credit card issuer.

Topic: RE: Sending Support To Frontier Airlines
Username: Aloha717200
Posted 2008-07-09 15:21:42 and read 3145 times.



Quoting Azstar (Reply 19):
Quoting Aloha717200 (Reply 1):
Careful in that recommendation is that getting a credit is sometimes an extremely lengthy procedure and in some cases does not fully protect the consumer 100%.

Not true. It's a simple procedure. In the event of a shutdown you simply request a refund from the credit card issuer.

Just to clarify....that was TylerDurden's quote, not my own.  Smile

Topic: RE: Sending Support To Frontier Airlines
Username: Frontierflyer
Posted 2008-07-09 19:34:52 and read 3045 times.



Quoting Aloha717200 (Reply 18):
Same here, I love that F9 really gives each plane its own personality, which in today's age of standardization and cost-reduction is kind of rare anymore. If F9 does survive I hope they don't opt to cut costs by changing to a more standard universal livery.

I'm booked ELP-DEN-LGA for AUG 22. I'm F9 biggest fan and supporter. At first I did not like the phrase "A whole different animal" but its grown on me and I can see why they chose it. I'm going to keep supporting F9 til the end.

Topic: RE: Sending Support To Frontier Airlines
Username: Jibny
Posted 2008-07-09 19:46:11 and read 3030 times.

I would love to book a flight on them, their fares are so expensive out of LGA when I wan to fly!

Topic: RE: Sending Support To Frontier Airlines
Username: Commavia
Posted 2008-07-09 19:58:17 and read 2996 times.



Quoting Jibny (Reply 22):
I would love to book a flight on them, their fares are so expensive out of LGA when I wan to fly!

And, ultimately, that is what it comes down to.

While it is certainly a very nice gesture and very admirable for people to express their support for Frontier and its employees, and their service, etc., the only real "support" that Frontier wants or needs right now is green and has dead Presidents on it.

Frontier needs cash - and that is the only support that really matters to them right now.

Topic: RE: Sending Support To Frontier Airlines
Username: Aloha73G
Posted 2008-07-09 19:58:27 and read 2996 times.

Great Idea...

I can tell you that during the final 24 hours of AQ's operation, their reservations line was flooded with people thanking them. I know because it took me quite a few tries to even get put on hold to buy my ticket for their final flight.

The reservationist was so touched by what I was doing (buying a ticket for the last flight) that she started crying....which made me cry....so we cried together.

Little gestures of appreciation and support are really worth something to the people that make an airline great.

Hopefully another A.netter won't have to fly on Frontier's final flight the way I did for Aloha.

-Aloha!

Topic: RE: Sending Support To Frontier Airlines
Username: Jibny
Posted 2008-07-09 20:09:43 and read 2978 times.



Quoting Aloha73G (Reply 24):
Frontier needs cash - and that is the only support that really matters to them right now.

You've convinced me!. Booked  Smile

Topic: RE: Sending Support To Frontier Airlines
Username: Mariner
Posted 2008-07-09 22:42:55 and read 2927 times.

Here's some = very surprising and very helpful - support, from First Data, the CCP whose demands provoked the Chapter 11 filing:

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/new...l-with-first-data-helps-frontiers/

RMN: "Frontier Airlines will boost its cash reserves by an undisclosed amount through an amended agreement with its credit-card processor, giving the carrier more breathing room as it navigates through Chapter 11 bankruptcy."

Who'd have thought it?

mariner

Topic: RE: Sending Support To Frontier Airlines
Username: Aloha717200
Posted 2008-07-09 23:47:08 and read 2889 times.

Quoting Mariner (Reply 26):
RMN: "Frontier Airlines will boost its cash reserves by an undisclosed amount through an amended agreement with its credit-card processor, giving the carrier more breathing room as it navigates through Chapter 11 bankruptcy."

Who'd have thought it?

mariner

THAT IS THE BEST NEWS!!!

I hope this is the light at the end of the tunnel. Long, long way to go yet though, but it's arguably the first real piece of good news that I've heard so far.

The agreement almost sounds like a form of DIP to me, with First Data holding liens on some equipment. Once F9 recovers they might be able to buy back those liens.

Quoting Aloha73G (Reply 24):
Great Idea...

I can tell you that during the final 24 hours of AQ's operation, their reservations line was flooded with people thanking them. I know because it took me quite a few tries to even get put on hold to buy my ticket for their final flight.

The reservationist was so touched by what I was doing (buying a ticket for the last flight) that she started crying....which made me cry....so we cried together.

Little gestures of appreciation and support are really worth something to the people that make an airline great.

Hopefully another A.netter won't have to fly on Frontier's final flight the way I did for Aloha.

-Aloha!

I have to say that what you did for Aloha in March inspired me, and as I saw the problems increase for F9, the feeling over here in the mountain west, to me at least, was similar...that we were about to lose one of our local, hometown airlines. Albiet I'm not a denver resident, but the culture and theme of Frontier also fits Idaho very well. I have to say that the demise of Aloha was probably one of the most emotional things I've witnessed in a long time, and it really made me and perhaps others here a lot more sensitive to what goes on inside the workforce of an airline facing a slow death. Many others that have disappeared this year have had the "writing on the wall", so to speak, but shut down very suddenly without much notice to employees.

With Aloha, they knew the exact date their jobs would end and we got to see them going through the emotions in a very visible, public way, and I think we all grieved along with them and connected with the overall emotion of that final week in Aloha's life.

So watching Frontier begin to head into an uncertain future really taps those still-recent feelings I had watching Aloha go down, and I really feel for these people, and since F9 is a bit closer to home for me, I feel like I actually have a chance to do something about it this time. In Aloha's case, if I'd had the money I'd have flown to Hawaii and supported them, but the funds weren't there. For F9, I can drive for two hours and hop a relatively inexpensive flight to Denver and back to show some support, talk to employees and hopefully bring a little cheer, the way you so admirably did for those folks at Aloha. You've always had my respect, but seeing the positive difference you made really made a strong impression on me and I'm sure others.

There may, sadly, be more airline casualties in this year, and it's my hope that anyone whos favorite or local airline might be struggling would do the same as you did and that I'm trying to do in this thread, which is to go show support in any way that they can, and help those who need it get through one more day of work despite an uncertain future.

I hope all of this helps.

[Edited 2008-07-09 23:55:46]

Topic: RE: Sending Support To Frontier Airlines
Username: SAN787
Posted 2008-07-10 08:15:53 and read 2776 times.

Just picked up another trip for 2 on Frontier in November. That makes 4 on Frontier in the next 4 months. Goooo Frontier, the little engine that could!! We're not going to let you go...stick in there guys and keep providing that memorable service you're known for!!

[Edited 2008-07-10 08:25:24]

Topic: RE: Sending Support To Frontier Airlines
Username: PanAm747
Posted 2008-07-10 08:38:12 and read 2746 times.

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...ums/trip_reports/read.main/129886/

I just completed a trip on Frontier and found them to be a GREAT airline - again!

I sincerely hope that this great airline stays around - my trip was great, and the simplicity of a "smaller" airline made for a more intimate feel.

I too will be sending my compliments to Frontier (along with my trip report), and I will be supporting them whenever possible with the kind of paper they need.

Topic: RE: Sending Support To Frontier Airlines
Username: Kaneporta1
Posted 2008-07-10 08:57:14 and read 2722 times.

Even though I'm a long way from DEN, I booked my August MDW-DEN and DEN-SFO flights on F9 last weekend. Everything I've heard about the Frontier experience is incredibly positive and I guess this makes some people on this board very jealous.
I'll make sure I'll let every F9 employee I talk to, know how much some people, from all over the world, care abut this airline.


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