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Topic: Most Respected People In Aviation
Username: DeltAirlines
Posted 2001-03-03 23:00:10 and read 1903 times.

Hey everyone,
Who are the people you have the highest respect for in the world of aviation? Mine would be:
Herb Kelleher - Southwest Airlines
Gordon Bethune - Continental Airlines
Sir Richard Branson - The Virgin Empire

Jeff

Topic: RE: Most Respected People In Aviation
Username: Singapore_Air
Posted 2001-03-03 23:07:02 and read 1803 times.

It's got to be

Dr. Cheong Choong Kong - Chief Executive Officer and Deputy Chairman of Singapore Airlines

I say this from a biased and non-biased POV. He has guided the airline for 40 years and he has done a great job. Nothing but praise for the man! Every SIA fan loves him.

It's a shame he wants to leave in 2 years. Maybe he should stay until he's 80

Topic: RE: Most Respected People In Aviation
Username: Englandair
Posted 2001-03-03 23:17:20 and read 1789 times.

Sir Dick gets my vote. Not sure about his jumpers though!

Topic: RE: Most Respected People In Aviation
Username: JohnFKelly
Posted 2001-03-03 23:41:27 and read 1776 times.

Mudhole Smith
and Charlie Willis

Topic: RE: Most Respected People In Aviation
Username: Chepos
Posted 2001-03-03 23:49:02 and read 1767 times.

Herb Kelleher-Southwest
Richard Branson-Virgin
HRH Prince Sultan Bin Abdul Aziz-Head of Saudi Araibian Airlines-Taking the airline of the Kingdom to new heights
H.H Sheikh Ahmed Bin Saeed Al-Maktoum - Head of Emirates-Look what he has done for Emirates and the carrier is still so young.
Chepos
Puerto Rico

Topic: RE: Most Respected People In Aviation
Username: Watewate
Posted 2001-03-03 23:58:03 and read 1756 times.

If you include people from the past Juan Trippe and some guy named Boeing would be right up there as well.

Topic: RE: Most Respected People In Aviation
Username: Dynkrisolo
Posted 2001-03-04 00:06:48 and read 1749 times.

I think you mean the most respected people in the airline industry. Aviation is too general a category.

Here is my opinion:

While Singapore Airlines has made many achievements over the years, I don't think Cheong Choong Kong can take a lot of the credit. The airline was already on its way up when he took over the MD job in the 80s.

Gordon Bethune gets my vote. How much CO has transformed under his leadership is amazing. CO was appeared to follow Eastern's and Pan Am's demise. But Mr Bethune completely turned the airline around, and now it's one of the healthiest majors in the US. This is not a small feat. Just take a look at TW and US, and you'll know what I'm talking about.

Herb is a close second. He's the biggest winner of the US airline deregulation.

Branson is not a bad choice. His airline flourishes in the shadow of a big giant (BA). Well, I still think Bethune's job was tougher.

Topic: RE: Most Respected People In Aviation
Username: Phi
Posted 2001-03-04 00:31:45 and read 1735 times.

While never a CEO or such, V.H.'Slim' Mayfield was an
American Airlines Captain for most of his 30 years and
a barnstormer before that. He knew flying and it was his
life. During his time he saved a few lives by taking
evasive action against CAT not seen by anyone else.
He was dedicated to safety and comfort of his passengers and I could go on and on. Yet he was the
same as many good pilots are, and were, and thus did
not stand out among his peers.
So, to Slim and all like him, You are my Most Respected
People In Aviation.
Phil

Topic: RE: Most Respected People In Aviation
Username: Ikarus
Posted 2001-03-04 00:37:26 and read 1736 times.

Joe Sutter, of course. Who else could it be? Why is he on no-one's list so far?

In the airline industry, it would be Maxwell William Ward
(He put up a nice struggle, but unlike Virgin, his airline never survived the government-backed dirty tricks campaign that AC raged against it... I respect him even more for the tragedy of his airline than Branson for his victory - that guy was just bloody good at marketing and stirring up the opinions, whereas Ward was more of a pioneer, pilot and aviator, but less of a marketing and management person. It's the ancient question of accountant/entrepreneur versus innovator/enthusiast/hard-working rise-up. For me, the latter will always be more respected, but less successful.... I still like Virgin as an airline, though.)

Topic: RE: Different Point Of View
Username: Lschweitzer
Posted 2001-03-04 00:47:39 and read 1737 times.

What about the person who cleans the aircraft before we board the plane and the cleaner probably never gets to fly with one?
For a brilliant manager it does not make a difference what he or she has to manage.

Luc

Topic: RE: Most Respected People In Aviation
Username: B737-112
Posted 2001-03-04 00:58:50 and read 1733 times.

In my opinion it's Clay Lacy, he retired from UAL Seniority #1. Started flying DC-3's for them and wound up flying 747SP's and -400's at the end of his career! He was the captain of the DC-6 at the Reno Air Race, he was also the captain of the Human Fly DC-8 and he was in command of the United 747SP that flew around the world for charity! He was friends with Bill Lear, how cool is that? Now having a dominating charter business owning some incredible jets such as Learjets, Gulfstreams and two 727-100's. He's still flying around all the time. Almost everytime I go to VNY I hear him on the radio. What a great life.

Topic: RE: Most Respected People In Aviation
Username: Blink182
Posted 2001-03-04 01:41:27 and read 1720 times.

Rob Crandall- Made AA an international powerhouse and at the end of his reign, AA was a million times bigger and better than AA was when he arrived.

Don Carty- Could set up his own dynasty, "The Crandall years are over," "The Carty years are now" is a quote from him. AA has grown, and he is the CEO for AA that founded Oneworld. He has also made a huge comeback from terrible service to some of the best service in the sky.
rgds,
blink182

Topic: RE: Most Respected People In Aviation
Username: Chepos
Posted 2001-03-04 01:57:14 and read 1711 times.

AA some of the best service in the sky . Please dont take me wrong but AA dosent give the best service in the air. Maybe AA one of the best predators in the air that should be a better title for them .
Chepos
Puerto Rico

Topic: RE: Most Respected People In Aviation
Username: Flyf15
Posted 2001-03-04 02:07:31 and read 1713 times.

Mine would have to be:

Kelly Johnson (Skunk Works)
Juan Trippe (Pan Am)
William Boeing (Boeing)
Donald Douglas (MDC)
Patty Wagstaff (Aerobatics)



Each of these people have innovated, led, or taken risks to advance aviation as we know it.

Topic: RE: Most Respected People In Aviation
Username: N766AS
Posted 2001-03-04 02:13:30 and read 1703 times.

WILLIAM BOEING
Not only did he greatly contribute to the aviation world just about as long as it has existed, he has really contributed to the great, long-lasting Seattle economy.

Topic: RE: Most Respected People In Aviation
Username: Alpha 1
Posted 2001-03-04 04:04:16 and read 1680 times.

What about former UA Captian Al Haines? For what he did alone with the UA 232 incident, he's a hero in my book.

Topic: RE: Most Respected People In Aviation
Username: Co LITE
Posted 2001-03-04 04:06:42 and read 1678 times.

Herb Kelleher
John Dashburg
Gordon Bethune
Leo Mullin
Juan Trippe
ALL Captains of all Aircraft, I highly respect these great people
And many more

Topic: RE: Most Respected People In Aviation
Username: Airnewzealand
Posted 2001-03-04 04:12:40 and read 1674 times.

All the Flight attendants in the world!! For if itwasn't for them we would not have a Pleasant and Safe Journey!!
Also look at how much crap they have to put up with in a Day, Shi*ty passengers etc..

So my thumb goes up to you Guys, and thanks for the great service you provide to us!! Keep up the good work!

Cheers
mikey

Topic: RE: Most Respected People In Aviation
Username: BH346
Posted 2001-03-04 04:22:24 and read 1672 times.

I'm surprised nobody mentioned Wilbur and Orville Wright, the Wright Brothers.
Also...
John Dasburg(Helped NWA out of financial problems, and helped improve it and ordered A330's and 757 to replace aging DC-10's.
Gordon Bethune
Herb Kelleher
Al Haynes

BH346

Topic: RE: Most Respected People In Aviation
Username: DeltAirlines
Posted 2001-03-04 04:23:01 and read 1665 times.

I forgot all about Trippe and Boeing. Without these two men, the world of aviation would be signifigantly altered.

Jeff

Topic: RE: Most Respected People In Aviation
Username: VirginLover
Posted 2001-03-04 04:30:53 and read 1665 times.

Sir Richard Branson, hands down. I was telling Flyf15, on my flight from JFK-MAD, I was seriously thinking of writing a letter to Mr. Branson saying how much of a difference his airline is compared to other European airlines, and how much I missed it! (I was having a BAD flight)

Topic: RE: Most Respected People In Aviation
Username: JetsetTX
Posted 2001-03-04 05:24:46 and read 1650 times.

Bob Six, who led Continental for over 40 years and turned us into a major presence and Gordon Bethune, who led us back to glory.

Topic: RE: Most Respected People In Aviation
Username: Jetguy
Posted 2001-03-04 05:53:01 and read 1644 times.

Worthy contenders all, but let's not forget the man who made instrument flight possible - Jimmy Dolittle. After all, who would buy a VFR B747?

Topic: RE: Most Respected People In Aviation
Username: Cruising
Posted 2001-03-04 07:17:07 and read 1637 times.

My vote goes to Wright brothers, Charles Linderburg, Joe Sutter, and Kelly Johson.

Topic: RE: Most Respected People In Aviation
Username: DrukAir_BAe146
Posted 2001-03-04 08:12:32 and read 1634 times.

Carl Ichan.

Topic: RE: Most Respected People In Aviation
Username: Archie Bunker
Posted 2001-03-04 08:15:37 and read 1631 times.

Neil Robertson?

heheh...

Topic: RE: Most Respected People In Aviation
Username: Fxra
Posted 2001-03-04 08:46:11 and read 1625 times.

CLaire CHenault
Eddie Rickenbacker
DOnald Douglas
Kelly Johson
and the poor baggage handlers who've lugged my pack around on some of my long trips

later

Topic: RE: Most Respected People In Aviation
Username: RealHigh
Posted 2001-03-04 09:05:14 and read 1622 times.

John Travolta

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Topic: RE: Most Respected People In Aviation
Username: Astrojet
Posted 2001-03-04 09:26:44 and read 1612 times.

The best ever been for me is Mr William Boeing.

Topic: RE: Most Respected People In Aviation
Username: Singapore_Air
Posted 2001-03-04 09:57:00 and read 1607 times.

Oh yeah! FOrgot about SIr Richard Branson!

Yes he's great. Has guided VS through times of cheating and dishonesty by other Big Airlines, and has stuck to his ethos of excellent inflight service and has a big reputation.

Also, he has perservered and look what's happenned. it's the biggest and best airline in Britiain.

Also, the best thing he did in my opinion is that he sold 49% of Virgin Atlantic Holdings to Singapore Airlines making them both A Great Way To Fly

Topic: RE: Most Respected People In Aviation
Username: Twotterwrench
Posted 2001-03-04 10:23:01 and read 1601 times.

One must never forget Mr. Frank Lorenzo! What he did for us A&P's is talked about in revered tones to this day!

Topic: RE: Most Respected People In Aviation
Username: Siriwatthana
Posted 2001-03-04 10:28:51 and read 1599 times.

for me
Sir Richard Bransen

Dr. Frans Josef Strauß chairman of Airbus Industries and
Minister president of Bayern in germany. He is died.

Nicky Lauda

Topic: RE: Most Respected People In Aviation
Username: United Airline
Posted 2001-03-04 10:43:53 and read 1597 times.

If you include everyone, I would say 'Wright Brothers'.

Topic: RE: Most Respected People In Aviation
Username: Sushka
Posted 2001-03-04 10:56:12 and read 1596 times.

1.Wright brothers
2. Bill Boeing
3. CR. Smith
4. Chuck Yeager

Topic: RE: Most Respected People In Aviation
Username: Sushka
Posted 2001-03-04 10:59:34 and read 1589 times.

I fotgot #5 for me would be Lindburgh and his "Spirit of St.Louis"

Topic: RE: Most Respected People In Aviation
Username: Victor Hotel
Posted 2001-03-04 14:43:16 and read 1579 times.

Alvin Johnston also known as Tex Johnston. Since I have just written a speech on him and found a whole lot out about him, I have a great deal of respect for him, some may have seen my post.
VH

Topic: RE: Most Respected People In Aviation
Username: Chepos
Posted 2001-03-04 14:58:11 and read 1576 times.

I think the most respected off all times are
-The Wright Brothers-Orville and Wilbur
-Amelia Earhart
-Charles Lindbergh
-Arthur Raymond
-Juan Trippe
-William Boeing
The most respected people

Topic: RE: Most Respected People In Aviation
Username: Dynkrisolo
Posted 2001-03-04 15:33:39 and read 1570 times.

For the two who voted Carl Ichan and Frank Lorenzo, I hope you two are not serious.

Topic: RE: Most Respected People In Aviation
Username: Johnnybgoode
Posted 2001-03-04 18:46:20 and read 1554 times.

regarding all the airline CEO´s, i´d like to add Jürgen Weber to the list.
he´s the Lufthansa CEO and in my opinion he made a very remarkable job in privatizing an overbureaucratizized and heavily loss making carrier and made LH a highly profitable aviation company which is widely integrated and belongs to the world´s leading airlines and enjoys a major reputation.
in addition, he´s been considered the architect of the star alliance, and thus played a major role in introducing airline alliances to the world of aviation and brought the consumer major benefits.

rgds
daniel

Topic: RE: Most Respected People In Aviation
Username: Critter592
Posted 2001-03-04 18:52:27 and read 1556 times.

Herb Kelleher... I Highly Respect Herb, and his Airline. He has done such a great job to help Southwest Airlines. Thanks Herb.

Gordon Bethune... You have done the impossible and turned a sucky, sloppy, company into a super, on-time and friendly company, you held your patience and did not let bad thoughts get the best of you. Thanks Gordon

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Non-Respected people

Lewis Jordan... You Sloppy Lazy Pig, You and your company just had to kill 110 people, not maintaining your engines right burned a whole plane up. who in the hell gave you 3 MD-80s. Those MD-80s are in Good Hands now. Go hide in a hole Lewis. BTW--Nice Critter Livery, too bad you didn't create it you sloppy mud eater.

Joe Leonard... What are you, Lewis's Brother, I mean Airtran is headed in the same direction. I would rather fly MSY -- HOU on Southwest. You Lifeless Pig, You sit there and wash evidence off your planes before the NTSB even looks at it. Shows that Joe Leonard is so sick of DC9s he wants to set them all on fire...

Topic: RE: Most Respected People In Aviation
Username: KMIA
Posted 2001-03-04 19:15:20 and read 1551 times.

CHUCK YEAGER  Big thumbs up

Topic: RE: Most Respected People In Aviation
Username: RayChuang
Posted 2001-03-04 23:07:06 and read 1544 times.

Here's my list of the great people in aviation history.

Jack Northrop--an aviation pioneer that had a great knack for aerodynamic design, it was he who championed the flying wing idea--and modern technology has finally caught up with his ideals in the B-2 bomber and the proposed Boeing Blended Wing Body (BWB) airliner.

Andrei Tupolev--in my opinion the greatest Russian aircraft designer, he designed amazingly large monoplanes before the Great Patriotic War (World War II to the rest of us), and after the War his design bureau became a master designer of large aircraft for both the Soviet military and Soviet commercial aviation. The Tu-95 bomber is the Soviet "B-52," an amazing plane that is still operational even today; the Tu-114 was the zenith of turboprop airliner development; the Tu-16 "Badger" was the first Soviet large jet bomber; the Tu-154 became the Soviet "727"; the Tu-22/22M were pretty amazing supersonic large jet bombers, and finally the Tu-160 is one amazing supersonic jet bomber.

Clarence "Kelly" Johnson--perhaps the greatest airplane designer of ALL time. His encyclopedic knowledge of airplane design is completely unmatched, and the way he ran Lockheed's famous "Skunk Works" produced absolutely amazing airplanes at a fraction of what a normal airplane procurement would cost. Can you imagine Johnson trying to build the A-12/SR-71 Mach 3 reconnaissance plane through normal Pentagon channels? I don't think so.  Smile

Sir Sydney Camm--the master designer of Hawker Aircraft, he helped design aviation masterpieces for Hawker such as the Hurricane, Typhoon, Tempest, Hunter and Harrier.

For today's commercial aviation, I would tip my hat to:

Gordon Bethune--his arrival at Continental is truly one of the GREATEST turnaround stories in American economic history. When he arrived at CO, the airline was slowly emerging out of bankruptcy, their fleet was old and decrepit, passenger satisfaction was horrible, their reservation systems was a major joke, and employee morale was horrid. His incentives to clean up the fleet, buy new planes, target premium passengers, and update the reservations system turned CO in two years into an overnight success story. Today, CO is getting more and more new planes, turned their hubs at IAH and EWR into HUGE positive assets, and it was CO that did the extremely daring move to negotiate and finally get the right to become the first airline in the world to fly between the New York City area and Hong Kong on a non-stop direct flight.

Herb Kelleher--his very non-conventional style of management (but extremely smart at that!  Smile ) has turned Southwest Airlines into perhaps the most important airline for shorter flights in the USA. Because WN has such extremely low seat-mile costs, they can fly into many airports that the major airlines wouldn't touch and make a big profit at it. It was WN that literally saved low cost flights between northern and southern California when Western and PSA disappeared; and WN's success is one reason why the Boeing 737-300 and Next-Generation 737 programs are so successful (WN was launch customer for both models), because WN could buy a large number of these 737's and make its cost back pretty quickly. The founders of EasyJet and Jet Blue obviously have taken clues from Kelleher success and is the reason why these two airlines are also profitable.

Richard Branson--everyone called him crazy to use the profits from the Virgin music empire he built to start up an airline, but Branson proved them all wrong. The fact that VS has flat-out SUPERB service on their planes (and they're always full) is proof he could take on British Airways and be pretty profitable at that. Branson knows that VS must always have an edge over BA in order to attract customers, and it won't be surprising that VS will easily make back their investments in the A340-600 and A380-800 fleet.

Topic: RE: Most Respected People In Aviation
Username: BAYTRACON
Posted 2001-03-05 00:50:01 and read 1529 times.

-Juan Trippe
-Gordon Bethune
-Herb Kelleher
-Sir Richard Branson
-The controllers
-The pilots
-The flight attendants
-The airport managers
-The ramp workers

Topic: RE: Most Respected People In Aviation
Username: Trintocan
Posted 2001-03-06 07:58:57 and read 1508 times.

For me it would definitely be the Wright Brothers and Juan Trippe. The Wright Bros. certainly got the ball rolling by inaugurating aeroplane flight while Trippe upped the tempo over many years with Pan Am. He pioneered new routes, opened up new areas of the world, was instrumental in the development of many new types of plane and of the jet age hitting commercial aviation and overall contributed far more to civil aviation than anybody else ever did.

Nobody else can come close to the legacies of Wright and Trippe.

Trintocan.

Topic: RE: Most Respected People In Aviation
Username: Pacific
Posted 2001-03-06 08:07:25 and read 1507 times.

Wilbur and Orville Wright, the people who invented aviation.

Pacific

Topic: RE: Most Respected People In Aviation
Username: Ap305
Posted 2001-03-06 10:39:07 and read 1505 times.

Based on some of the books i have read and from what i have heard from some friends who used to work in the aviation buissiness my vote would go for the late Dan Haughton of Lockheed.One book in particular(i keep forgetting it's name)deals with how he intended for the L1011 to be the best airplane(in terms of technical advances)to be built.It goes on to say that an executive with an european aircraft firm admited that haughton had achived his goal.The author also mentioned how well he treated Rolls during the bad days of the L1011 program.

ap305


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