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Topic: AF 777 In CLE
Username: Cle757
Posted 2008-07-27 11:33:08 and read 2969 times.

We have an Air France 777 diversion in CLE right now...anyone know where it was going?

Topic: RE: AF 777 In CLE
Username: PITrules
Posted 2008-07-27 11:39:16 and read 2949 times.

IAD

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AFR28

Topic: RE: AF 777 In CLE
Username: Lincoln
Posted 2008-07-27 12:33:35 and read 2856 times.



Quoting PITrules (Reply 1):
IAD

Cleveland seems...ummm...a bit far out of the way, why here? (And if coming this far out of the way why not, say, DTW where they actually have (had?) scheduled service.

Topic: RE: AF 777 In CLE
Username: N766UA
Posted 2008-07-27 12:41:20 and read 2827 times.

Cleveland's the nearest airport with a skyteam hub that isn't being affected by weather. That's most likely why it's there.

Topic: RE: AF 777 In CLE
Username: PITrules
Posted 2008-07-27 12:42:50 and read 2810 times.



Quoting Lincoln (Reply 2):
Cleveland seems...ummm...a bit far out of the way, why here? (And if coming this far out of the way why not, say, DTW where they actually have (had?) scheduled service.

Could be a number of reasons. BWI is close to IAD, but is having weather issues as well. As of this post, I can see that PIT has already taken at least 13 mainline diversions and several regionals, so while I'm not at the airport, I imagine gate space is becoming an issue (the airport is half empty because of the US dehubbing, but most of those gates are blocked off and not usable on short notice).

CLE makes sense, because if the return to IAD is significantly delayed, perhaps AF can deplane and book connections on CAL (Skyteam partner).

DTW might just have been a little too far considering fuel requirements.

Topic: RE: AF 777 In CLE
Username: MasseyBrown
Posted 2008-07-27 14:03:23 and read 2674 times.



Quoting PITrules (Reply 4):
DTW might just have been a little too far considering fuel requirements.

The difference between CDG-CLE and CDG-DTW is 22nm.  Smile

Topic: RE: AF 777 In CLE
Username: PITrules
Posted 2008-07-27 14:09:38 and read 2649 times.



Quoting MasseyBrown (Reply 5):
The difference between CDG-CLE and CDG-DTW is 22nm.

The difference from the IAD area (where it diverted from) to CLE vs DTW is a bit more than that. The flight didn't divert to CLE right out of CDG.

Topic: RE: AF 777 In CLE
Username: CALMSP
Posted 2008-07-27 14:14:52 and read 2634 times.

this is in preperation of the rumored CLE-CDG AF 777 service. If CLE can handle this widebody, then AF will probably fly in on a regular basis.  Smile

Topic: RE: AF 777 In CLE
Username: N766UA
Posted 2008-07-27 16:35:56 and read 2455 times.



Quoting MasseyBrown (Reply 5):
The difference between CDG-CLE and CDG-DTW is 22nm.

He may have left CDG, but by the time he'd made a choice to divert he was over Connecticut. The difference between his holding pattern and CLE vs. DTW is almost 100nm.

Topic: RE: AF 777 In CLE
Username: DTWAGENT
Posted 2008-07-27 17:10:53 and read 2398 times.

Unless he had a medical emergency and CLE was the closest fast place to land. Let us remember the AF does have several flights that fly this path heading to Texas and ATL.

Chuck

Topic: RE: AF 777 In CLE
Username: MasseyBrown
Posted 2008-07-27 20:22:00 and read 2205 times.



Quoting N766UA (Reply 8):
by the time he'd made a choice to divert he was over Connecticut. The difference between his holding pattern and CLE vs. DTW is almost 100nm.

Something like 64nm using BDL as a reference point. I'd have expected AF to use one of their joint venture partners' hubs.

Topic: RE: AF 777 In CLE
Username: HB-IWC
Posted 2008-07-28 01:48:48 and read 2047 times.



Quoting N766UA (Reply 3):
Cleveland's the nearest airport with a skyteam hub that isn't being affected by weather.

I don't think that plays much of a role at all. KL641 AMS JFK B744 PH-BFG diverted to Syracuse, which I don't remember to be anyone's hub.


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