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Topic: LH To Concretise E-Jet Order
Username: Stylo777
Posted 2008-10-18 01:47:57 and read 5518 times.

Lufthansa has decided to take 18 of the E190 and 12 of the larger E195. Deliveries will be next year. The order they placed last year for 30 E190 jets was flexible so now the concretion.

Apart from some frames going to Air Dolomiti will the remaining aircrafts put into the fleet of LH Cityline or Eurowings? Any infos yet about where they will be based and/or mainly fly from?

Topic: RE: LH To Concretise E-Jet Order
Username: WILCO737
Posted 2008-10-18 02:02:01 and read 5483 times.



Quoting Stylo777 (Thread starter):
Apart from some frames going to Air Dolomiti will the remaining aircrafts put into the fleet of LH Cityline or Eurowings? Any infos yet about where they will be based and/or mainly fly from?

About that topic I hear billioins of different rumours, but nothing confirmed yet. Still a lot to discuss within LH...

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Topic: RE: LH To Concretise E-Jet Order
Username: Kaitak
Posted 2008-10-18 02:14:20 and read 5419 times.

Is Swiss getting any of the E-jets ordered by LH, or does it have its own aircraft on order?

Presumably LH will be increasing its E-Jet order at some stage, to provide replacement aircraft for SN?

Topic: RE: LH To Concretise E-Jet Order
Username: BA319-131
Posted 2008-10-18 02:20:43 and read 5399 times.



Quoting Kaitak (Reply 2):
Is Swiss getting any of the E-jets ordered by LH, or does it have its own aircraft on order?

Presumably LH will be increasing its E-Jet order at some stage, to provide replacement aircraft for SN?

- I can see large numbers of E jets heading to Europe to replace LX & SN Avro fleets, good plane IMO.

Topic: RE: LH To Concretise E-Jet Order
Username: Oby
Posted 2008-10-18 02:29:16 and read 5381 times.

I thought that LH had just ordered heaps of the C-series. Wouldn't that be kind of stupid to have thos two relatively same aircraft in the fleet, unless they don't go to the same airline inside LH

Topic: RE: LH To Concretise E-Jet Order
Username: Stylo777
Posted 2008-10-18 02:35:20 and read 5360 times.



Quoting Oby (Reply 4):
I thought that LH had just ordered heaps of the C-series. Wouldn't that be kind of stupid to have thos two relatively same aircraft in the fleet, unless they don't go to the same airline inside LH

yes they also ordered quite a few of the CRJ1000 as they are pleased with the overall performance of the 700 and especially the 900s. These jets go to Cityline for sure as they're the biggest operator of the CRJ within the LH company.

Topic: RE: LH To Concretise E-Jet Order
Username: ZRH
Posted 2008-10-18 04:18:28 and read 5190 times.



Quoting Stylo777 (Thread starter):

Apart from some frames going to Air Dolomiti will the remaining aircrafts put into the fleet of LH Cityline or Eurowings?



Quoting Kaitak (Reply 2):
Is Swiss getting any of the E-jets ordered by LH, or does it have its own aircraft on order?

This is a good question. SWISS has to replace sooner or later 20 AVRO RJ 100. But they only need an aircraft which is LCY certified. Are the E 190 and 195 both able to operate to LCY? I guess the CRJ are not.

Topic: RE: LH To Concretise E-Jet Order
Username: Thorben
Posted 2008-10-18 04:56:09 and read 5091 times.



Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 3):
- I can see large numbers of E jets heading to Europe to replace LX & SN Avro fleets, good plane IMO.

Me, too, and I hate that idea. More boring twins replacing magnificent quads.

Topic: RE: LH To Concretise E-Jet Order
Username: ZRH
Posted 2008-10-18 05:06:42 and read 5060 times.



Quoting Thorben (Reply 7):
Me, too, and I hate that idea. More boring twins replacing magnificent quads.

I also like these funny little quads. And furthermore in the SWISS seating with 5 abreast they are also very comfortable (what you can't say about all these horrible cramped 3-3 fitted AVROs/Bae 146).

Topic: RE: LH To Concretise E-Jet Order
Username: Kaitak
Posted 2008-10-18 05:36:06 and read 4995 times.



Quoting ZRH (Reply 6):
Are the E 190 and 195 both able to operate to LCY? I guess the CRJ are not.

I understand that the 190 is being certificated for LCY later this year; I'm not sure if this means both versions of the 190, i.e. the 190-100 and/or the 190-200 (195).

Topic: RE: LH To Concretise E-Jet Order
Username: Beaucaire
Posted 2008-10-18 05:54:51 and read 4946 times.



Quoting Thorben (Reply 7):
Me, too, and I hate that idea. More boring twins replacing magnificent quads.

As a "Geschäftsführer" you would be rather interested to bring down seatmile-cost ,maintenance cost and increase passenger-comfort..
The Embraer 190's should offer better yields to both,LX and SN ,and allow the introduction of new destinations within their respective networks.
Sure it's nice to see "exotic" aircraft ( hey-I loved my flights in the TU 134 with Syrian Air..! ) but while I have a great interest in aircraft spotting I also conceive the pressure to bring down costs.

Topic: RE: LH To Concretise E-Jet Order
Username: Stylo777
Posted 2008-10-18 05:55:52 and read 4939 times.



Quoting Thorben (Reply 7):



Quoting ZRH (Reply 8):

as funny and magnificient they are they're getting older and older. Especially the ones of Eurowings going more and more tech which is a main issue (apart from the fuel consumption) to replace them with more modern, efficient and reliable planes.

Quoting Kaitak (Reply 9):

If I'm not mistaken I heard that too or was it the E170s?
What about the idea LH subsidiary Augsburg Airways with their Dash's to operate the LCY operations on behalf of LX?

Topic: RE: LH To Concretise E-Jet Order
Username: Thorben
Posted 2008-10-18 06:14:23 and read 4908 times.



Quoting Beaucaire (Reply 10):

As a "Geschäftsführer" you would be rather interested to bring down seatmile-cost ,maintenance cost and increase passenger-comfort..

I'm not an airline manager, I'm an aviation enthusiast. This all-looks-the-same from E170/190 over A320/737 over 787/A350 to 77W/A3510 is making the whole thing sort of boring.

I'm happy for every quad and every trijet I see.

Topic: RE: LH To Concretise E-Jet Order
Username: CRJ900
Posted 2008-10-18 07:28:58 and read 4794 times.



Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 5):
yes they also ordered quite a few of the CRJ1000 as they are pleased with the overall performance of the 700 and especially the 900s.

Does that mean that LH is that elusive undisclosed buyer of 15 (+15) CRJ1000?

Topic: RE: LH To Concretise E-Jet Order
Username: A342
Posted 2008-10-18 07:55:46 and read 4639 times.



Quoting CRJ900 (Reply 13):
Does that mean that LH is that elusive undisclosed buyer of 15 (+15) CRJ1000?

That's my question, too. IIRC there hasn't been any announcement of LH buying CRJ1000s.

Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 1):
About that topic I hear billioins of different rumours, but nothing confirmed yet. Still a lot to discuss within LH...

What about this?

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...-all-airbus-mainline-fleet-at.html

Quoting Flightglobal:
Harbarth says the last 50-seaters will leave during the 2009-10 winter timetable as 112-seat Embraer 195s are delivered. Lufthansa has 30 of the Brazilian regional jets on order, "more than two-thirds" of which are likely to be based in Munich, with the rest going to the airline's principal hub in Frankfurt.

Topic: RE: LH To Concretise E-Jet Order
Username: LH4116
Posted 2008-10-18 09:53:47 and read 3981 times.

I guess that the reason to why they went for the ER9 instead of the CRJ-1000 could maybe because Lufthansa Technik wants to gain their maintenance experience by adding another plane.

Topic: RE: LH To Concretise E-Jet Order
Username: Stylo777
Posted 2008-10-18 10:22:56 and read 3810 times.



Quoting CRJ900 (Reply 13):
Does that mean that LH is that elusive undisclosed buyer of 15 (+15) CRJ1000?



Quoting A342 (Reply 14):
That's my question, too. IIRC there hasn't been any announcement of LH buying CRJ1000s.

yes you guys could be right! after checking their company website it only states an order for the CRJ900 (15 frames in total). so my mistake to say it was for the 1000s.


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