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Topic: OK For Spirit To Begin FLL MDE
Username: A300AA
Posted 2008-11-14 15:00:08 and read 2890 times.

DOT today announced that spirit could begin its flight from FLL to MDE.
http://airlineinfo.com/ost10/ost111408.html#Anchor-US-Colombia-33869

Topic: RE: OK For Spirit To Begin FLL MDE
Username: Bogota
Posted 2008-11-14 16:08:15 and read 2823 times.

What does this mean to AA third flight to BOG? Can you put me up to date with the situation. Great news for Spirit and Medellin

Topic: RE: OK For Spirit To Begin FLL MDE
Username: SCL767
Posted 2008-11-14 16:16:47 and read 2807 times.



Quoting Bogota (Reply 1):

What is the frequency, 3x weekly?

Topic: RE: OK For Spirit To Begin FLL MDE
Username: SJOtoLIR
Posted 2008-11-14 16:25:57 and read 2795 times.

It seems like the business model of NK in Colombia has been quite sucessful, taking into account their established destinations in Bogota and Cartagena de Indias.
Regards,

Topic: RE: OK For Spirit To Begin FLL MDE
Username: Bogota
Posted 2008-11-14 16:41:17 and read 2771 times.



Quoting SCL767 (Reply 2):
What is the frequency, 3x weekly?

I think it is going to be daily.

Topic: RE: OK For Spirit To Begin FLL MDE
Username: Summa767
Posted 2008-11-14 18:54:27 and read 2700 times.



Quoting Bogota (Reply 1):
What does this mean to AA third flight to BOG?

Well, AA will have to use frequencies that it currently uses on it second daily MDE for their 3rd daily to BOG.
Load factors have not been great for MIA-MDE in the low season, at only 51% for September down from 77% in August, and over 80% in July.
I would imagine AA might move some, if not a whole 7 frequencies from MDE to BOG (maybe even changing MDE to 757 from 737 in the process).
We shall have to see what does actually happen.


This award to Spirit is good news for competition, good news for MDE and for the fostering of business between this thriving region of Colombia and the US.

Topic: RE: OK For Spirit To Begin FLL MDE
Username: Summa767
Posted 2008-11-15 04:42:57 and read 2579 times.

As a side note, it's clear in the order issued by DOT in its award to Spirit, that the US and Colombia have an extra-bilateral agreement that allows US airlines to serve Armenia (AXM) and San Andres Island (ADZ) with unlimited scheduled flights.

It is Spirit's intention to start these 2 destinations in Spring 2009.
It would be remarkable if NK went from having no destinations in Colombia until a few months ago, to 5 by Summer 2009.

Topic: RE: OK For Spirit To Begin FLL MDE
Username: SJOtoLIR
Posted 2008-11-15 05:20:18 and read 2562 times.



Quoting Summa767 (Reply 6):
that the US and Colombia have an extra-bilateral agreement that allows US airlines to serve Armenia (AXM) and San Andres Island (ADZ) with unlimited scheduled flights.

As far as I know, San Andres Island is being regulated upon the Open Skies agreement.
Regards.

Topic: RE: OK For Spirit To Begin FLL MDE
Username: Summa767
Posted 2008-11-15 05:34:26 and read 2552 times.



Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 7):
As far as I know, San Andres Island is being regulated upon the Open Skies agreement.

The open skies only covers BAQ and CTG. However, in practice it is the same as far as US carriers are concerned. The difference lies in rights for Colombian carriers to operate from open skies points to the US -not so in this ad hoc agreement for ADZ and AXM.

Topic: RE: OK For Spirit To Begin FLL MDE
Username: SJOtoLIR
Posted 2008-11-15 06:01:34 and read 2537 times.



Quoting Summa767 (Reply 8):
The open skies only covers BAQ and CTG.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Santa Marta [SMR] in also included in that list.
Regards.

Topic: RE: OK For Spirit To Begin FLL MDE
Username: Summa767
Posted 2008-11-15 06:39:17 and read 2512 times.



Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 9):
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Santa Marta [SMR] in also included in that list.

Santa Marta is open but for charter flights only, with the restrictions that carries. In fact, ADZ is in that category too, just that with the new extra-bilateral agreement airlines can operate there without the charter restrictions (sale at US only among others, rendering them unappealing).


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