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Topic: Aircraft Slides Off Taxiway In IND
Username: Allstarflyer
Posted 2008-12-17 04:48:56 and read 3070 times.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/c...-winterweather-pla,0,5874348.story

"No injuries were reported when a jet with 117 passengers on board skidded off a taxiway at Indianapolis International Airport . . . The plane was not damaged."
Good, no injuries reported and the a/c should be OK.

"The plane was headed to Milwaukee from Chicago, but was diverted to Indianapolis because the Milwaukee airport was closed due to weather." Diverted in the other direction only to have this happen.  crazy 

Topic: RE: Aircraft Slides Off Taxiway In IND
Username: Juventus
Posted 2008-12-17 04:55:14 and read 3054 times.

Milwakee to Chicago??? the article says Delta, since when does Delta fly from MKE to ORD??

I remember last year when in a span of a month 4 or 5 aircraft skidded off runways and taxiways during poor weather.

Topic: RE: Aircraft Slides Off Taxiway In IND
Username: JettaKnight
Posted 2008-12-17 06:24:22 and read 2913 times.



Quoting Juventus (Reply 1):
Milwakee to Chicago??? the article says Delta, since when does Delta fly from MKE to ORD??

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL1274

The flight was originally operating from ATL to MKE, but diverted to ORD due to MKE weather. After its second attempt to land in MKE, it was forced to divert to IND.

Topic: RE: Aircraft Slides Off Taxiway In IND
Username: Apodino
Posted 2008-12-17 10:48:35 and read 2605 times.

MKE has absolutely been terrible with snow removal the past couple of years. They can't keep runways clear to save their lives. I think MKE has had more snow related diversions over the past couple of years than all the other airports combined.

Topic: RE: Aircraft Slides Off Taxiway In IND
Username: EmiratesA380
Posted 2008-12-17 10:52:10 and read 2573 times.

DANG IT!! I was just at my mom's in Indianapolis! Can someone get pics?

-EmiratesA380

Topic: RE: Aircraft Slides Off Taxiway In IND
Username: EmiratesA380
Posted 2008-12-17 11:00:17 and read 2538 times.

What taxiway was it? Does anyone know what runway they're using for arrivals?

-EmiratesA380

Topic: RE: Aircraft Slides Off Taxiway In IND
Username: TWAL1011727
Posted 2008-12-17 13:35:27 and read 2398 times.



Quoting EmiratesA380 (Reply 5):
What taxiway was it? Does anyone know what runway they're using for arrivals?

Landed on 23R - problem occured 23R @ taxiway B11 (near the end of 23R)
A/C nose and right main in grass - left main on taxiway..
Obviously flight was cancelled.
Delta ferried in another A/C to take pax to MKE.
DL9850 left IND at 724am and arr MKE at 737am.

///NEWS FLASH/// --- Joe Patroni on his way to IND to power MD88 out of grass

KD

Topic: RE: Aircraft Slides Off Taxiway In IND
Username: Type-Rated
Posted 2008-12-17 13:37:59 and read 2394 times.



Quoting TWAL1011727 (Reply 6):

///NEWS FLASH/// --- Joe Patroni on his way to IND to power MD88 out of grass

Let's hope the MD88 can't read......

Topic: RE: Aircraft Slides Off Taxiway In IND
Username: 71Zulu
Posted 2008-12-17 13:49:37 and read 2360 times.

Can hear the whole thing here, DL 1274 checks in at 13:07.

http://archive-server.liveatc.net/kind/KIND-Dec-17-2008-0500Z.mp3

Topic: RE: Aircraft Slides Off Taxiway In IND
Username: Ward86IND
Posted 2008-12-18 14:04:02 and read 1974 times.

Obviously the pilot will be blamed for the slideoff, and rightly so, but air traffic control was also a factor. They were on 5's the whole night, and told IND ops they would stay that way. Then they switched to the 23's without telling Ops at all.

Why is this a problem? Well, in freezing rain conditions everyone is scrambling to try to keep everything from icing over. Since it's impossible to continually de-ice the whole airport, priority is given to runways and runway exits in use. When landing on 5's, B5 was kept in good shape since that is the high-speed exit for 5L. When tower switched to 23's suddenly, the high speed used for 23R would be B7 instead. Which was iced over. Since tower gave no warning to ops, they couldn't get it de-iced. So tower closed it. When the Delta landed, he was instructed to pass B7 and take the next available left. Problem with that was that B11 was also iced over, (but B12 was not!), and ops repeatedly told tower beforehand that B11 was a CLOSED taxiway.

Add to this that tower rushed him, saying that there was an aircraft in position and another on final, so take the next exit to your left "without delay."

So he turns onto B11, which had a braking action of "NIL," probably a little hot, and so he ends up on the island, in the safety area,...and then tower takes off a southwest on the same runway then lands a few more planes before they realize his tail is practically sticking out on the runway lol.

Oh well, the passengers were bussed off promptly, no one was hurt and the aircraft is fine.


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