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Topic: Qantas B737 "Classic" Retirements
Username: Dkramer7
Posted 2009-03-22 16:58:33 and read 4718 times.

Hi All,

The Qantas Fleet of Boeing B737-300 and B737-400's must be due to leave the fleet sometime soon, Given that Qantas will start to take delivery of new B737-800's soon it seem logical this ould be the time to phase them out.

Still, are they really that bad? sure they would like to replace them but i was wondering if they were doing an adquate job now.

your thoughts?

Topic: RE: Qantas B737 "Classic" Retirements
Username: ANstar
Posted 2009-03-22 17:37:25 and read 4653 times.

They'll be around for a while as they have something like 28 x 734's and 5 x 733's though as NZ domestic winds up a few of those will be retired and replaced with A320's

Topic: RE: Qantas B737 "Classic" Retirements
Username: EXAAUADL
Posted 2009-03-22 19:32:33 and read 4513 times.



Quoting ANstar (Reply 1):
They'll be around for a while as they have something like 28 x 734's and 5 x 733's though as NZ domestic winds up a few of those will be retired and replaced with A320's

So we'ew going to see 320s in QF colors? Or more for Jetstar?

Topic: RE: Qantas B737 "Classic" Retirements
Username: Vhqpa
Posted 2009-03-22 19:46:13 and read 4476 times.

Quoting EXAAUADL (Reply 2):
So we'ew going to see 320s in QF colors? Or more for Jetstar?

They will be Jetstar

Jetstar takes over from Jetconnect Domestic 10 Jun 09.

The last 733 pax flights for the QF group will be QF2727 AKL-WLG, QF2771 AKL-CHC both departing at 1930 on 9 Jun 09

with the transformation JQ will start CHC-WLG and cease CHC-ROT

Also some of the 734's aren't that old the last 2 are 1996 production models and the 2 before that are 1995 models I believe.


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Topic: RE: Qantas B737 "Classic" Retirements
Username: Zkpilot
Posted 2009-03-22 21:29:25 and read 4321 times.

Jetconnect is giving up NZL domestic to JQ, Jetconnect will operate more TransTasman QF flights. IIRC they are due to have their 733/4 aircraft replaced by the end of the year by brand new 738 with AVOD IFE.

Topic: RE: Qantas B737 "Classic" Retirements
Username: ZK-NBT
Posted 2009-03-23 00:32:30 and read 4122 times.



Quoting Zkpilot (Reply 4):

Jetconnect is giving up NZL domestic to JQ, Jetconnect will operate more TransTasman QF flights. IIRC they are due to have their 733/4 aircraft replaced by the end of the year by brand new 738 with AVOD IFE.

The 734s will be around for a little while, they just received another one but I believe the 733s will be gone by years end.

Topic: RE: Qantas B737 "Classic" Retirements
Username: Airvan00
Posted 2009-03-23 00:57:30 and read 4074 times.



Quoting ANstar (Reply 1):
They'll be around for a while as they have something like 28 x 734's and 5 x 733's though as NZ domestic winds up a few of those will be retired and replaced with A320's

Qantas currently has 18 734's
JetConnect has 4 734's and 4 733's

Topic: RE: Qantas B737 "Classic" Retirements
Username: ClassicLover
Posted 2009-03-23 12:07:07 and read 3579 times.



Quoting Airvan00 (Reply 6):
Qantas currently has 18 734's
JetConnect has 4 734's and 4 733's

Yeah and Qantas has a whole heap (30?) of 737-838s on order... they'll replace the entire 737 classic fleet.

It has to happen, because the 738s are basically a new aircraft compared to the 734, so they're much more efficient.

Looks like Qantas is betting on no narrowbody replacement for quite a long time yet!

Topic: RE: Qantas B737 "Classic" Retirements
Username: 777ER
Posted 2009-03-23 13:35:00 and read 3509 times.



Quoting Vhqpa (Reply 3):
The last 733 pax flights for the QF group will be QF2727 AKL-WLG, QF2771 AKL-CHC both departing at 1930 on 9 Jun 09

Thats if they don't go tech, like what usually happens with QFs fleet here

Topic: RE: Qantas B737 "Classic" Retirements
Username: Aerokiwi
Posted 2009-03-23 14:32:45 and read 3430 times.



Quoting Dkramer7 (Thread starter):
Still, are they really that bad? sure they would like to replace them but i was wondering if they were doing an adquate job now.

The 733s in New Zealand are by and large not doing their job adequately, as 777ER intimates below...

Quoting 777ER (Reply 8):
Thats if they don't go tech, like what usually happens with QFs fleet here

Qantas always had a good reputation in New Zealand but since the introduction of the 733s with JetConnect, on-time performance is through the floor, so much so that it is perfectly normal to turn up to the airport and have a half hour delay, minimum, with very little information from staff on exactly how long the delay is for. On such a tiny network such as New Zealand domestic, that is unacceptable and I think has resulted in a severe tarnishing of QF's image here.

In addition, the shabby 733s and the slightly less shabby 734s used on Tasman flights are well behind the competition from NZ and DJ. And QF's use of the 747-300s on AKL-LAX services peeved a lot of local customers, only adding to their woes in New Zealand. I suspect that QF has largely given up on the New Zealand market for the time being and it will be assumed almost entirely by Jetstar.

Topic: RE: Qantas B737 "Classic" Retirements
Username: ATA L1011
Posted 2009-03-23 16:08:50 and read 3326 times.



Quoting ClassicLover (Reply 7):
It has to happen, because the 738s are basically a new aircraft compared to the 734, so they're much more efficient

The NG's are more effecient than the Classic's but not nearly as much as you think. The 733,734 and 735 engines are still quiet effecient and on similiar sectors they only are about 5-6% less effecient than the 738 vs say an MD80 which is about 20% less efficient. The classics will be around for a long time to come!

Topic: RE: Qantas B737 "Classic" Retirements
Username: Sydscott
Posted 2009-03-23 16:34:06 and read 3272 times.



Quoting Aerokiwi (Reply 9):
In addition, the shabby 733s and the slightly less shabby 734s used on Tasman flights are well behind the competition from NZ and DJ. And QF's use of the 747-300s on AKL-LAX services peeved a lot of local customers, only adding to their woes in New Zealand. I suspect that QF has largely given up on the New Zealand market for the time being and it will be assumed almost entirely by Jetstar.

A few points to note;

1) Those same "shabby" 734's are used extensively throughout QF's Australian domestic network. If it's good enough for Oz domestic, it's good enough for NZ domestic.

2) The 743's were a temporary measure but QF's use of the A332 really does show the lack of premium demand that they are generating out of AKL to LAX. With the 744's back on permanently hopefully they can somewhat arrest this by re-offering a consistent product.

3) The NZ domestic services will be entirely Jetstar but I doubt you will see any significant increased use of JQ across the tasman apart from places like the Gold Coast. The New Zealand based Jetconnect 738's with IFE etc will be able to more than hold their own on the Tasman and at a lower cost than mainline QF from Australia. So if anything this whole re-organisation will result in more New Zealand jobs within the QF group and an expanded presence rather than a diminishing presence.

Topic: RE: Qantas B737 "Classic" Retirements
Username: Flyjetstar
Posted 2009-03-23 16:44:35 and read 3259 times.



Quoting Sydscott (Reply 11):
1) Those same "shabby" 734's are used extensively throughout QF's Australian domestic network. If it's good enough for Oz domestic, it's good enough for NZ domestic.

The obvious flaw in the argument would be that QF Australia go them when they were in way better condition than when QF New Zealand got them so it's hardly a point worth making. They have been horrible in NZ and has been rightly pointed out have affected the QF brand here. I wouldn't call the replacement of QF with JQ in NZ an expanding presence. The two are not the same, one is replacing the other.

Topic: RE: Qantas B737 "Classic" Retirements
Username: Aerokiwi
Posted 2009-03-23 19:10:17 and read 3178 times.



Quoting Sydscott (Reply 11):
A few points to note;

I'm not trying to be offensive, but all are seemingly valid points, but spoken with an Australian market perspective, equating New Zealand with Oz.

The 733s and, to a lesser extent, the 734s (used sparingly on domestic flights here) are shabby in comparison to NZ's very well maintained 733s and DJ's new 738s.

And whatever the reason for the sue of the 743s, the damage has been done. We've known for a long time that there isn't much premium demand out of NZ, hence the A330s. But combined with NZ's frequent flyer transfer offer, I believe (from some offhand discussions with airline peopl - not reliable, I know) that QF has done lasting damage to its brand in New Zealand through its use of below-par aircraft and the unreliability of JetConnect.

All of this is in comparison to the competition, of course. NZ has a far superior product offering across the Tasman for the foreseeable future, seating, classes offered, IFE etc. Yet QF has no problem slapping 734s on major routes like AKL-MEL/BNE for many months pending arrival of the 738s. At some point, frequent flyers start to notice.

I'm fairly certain that once enough JQ 787s arrive, New Zealand will have no long-haul QF services and the Tasman will be largely assumed by JQ as well. The lack of premium demand is in itself an argument for switching to JQ.

Topic: RE: Qantas B737 "Classic" Retirements
Username: Sydscott
Posted 2009-03-23 19:40:03 and read 3150 times.



Quoting Aerokiwi (Reply 13):
NZ has a far superior product offering across the Tasman for the foreseeable future, seating, classes offered, IFE etc. Yet QF has no problem slapping 734s on major routes like AKL-MEL/BNE for many months pending arrival of the 738s. At some point, frequent flyers start to notice.

QF treats the tasman like it does its domestic markets with virtually the same product and same aircraft and, more than likely, lower yields. For years we've been told that the Tasman has been low yielding. If this is true then why would QF bother to put its international product into the market when it takes less time to get to NZ from the East Coast than it does to get to Perth?

Quoting Aerokiwi (Reply 13):
New Zealand will have no long-haul QF services and the Tasman will be largely assumed by JQ as well.

I don't think you'll find that Auckland or SYD-Wellington will be JQ. QF has to maintain its own presence from MEL & SYD to AKL given the business nature of the market from the Australian side. The same is true for SYD-Wellington given the Govt traffic that would come back and forth justifying some premium service. However, I think it's likely that you'll no longer see any QF Group widebody service across the tasman apart from a positioning flight for AKL-LAX if necessary. An expanded Jetconnect fleet of 738's with IFE and upgraded Business along with JQ A320's would more than suffice for the rest.

Now if only we could merge the Tasman so that flights could arrive at the Domestic Terminals.


Quoting Flyjetstar (Reply 12):
The obvious flaw in the argument would be that QF Australia go them when they were in way better condition than when QF New Zealand got them so it's hardly a point worth making.

Maintenance and interior wise you'd hope that they would have been delivered to QF New Zealand exactly as they were when they got them. ie properly maintained and with a similar product to QF domestic in Australia.

Topic: RE: Qantas B737 "Classic" Retirements
Username: Aerokiwi
Posted 2009-03-23 20:01:15 and read 3120 times.



Quoting Sydscott (Reply 14):
QF treats the tasman like it does its domestic markets with virtually the same product and same aircraft and, more than likely, lower yields. For years we've been told that the Tasman has been low yielding. If this is true then why would QF bother to put its international product into the market when it takes less time to get to NZ from the East Coast than it does to get to Perth?

Because of the competitive pressures from Air NZ and Emirates, who are now offering far higher standards of service, often on new, widebody jets. Even the NZ A320s and 767s have the new interior product and PTVs.

And if the yields are so low, it is only a matter of time before Jetstar assumes the services - it is exactly what JQ was designed to do - assume low yield routes from the parent QF.

Despite many preferred supplier agreements with QF on the Tasman, government business does not command the premium traffic everyone seems to think. Anything under 6 hours is generally economy or premium economy only, which is what JQ offers alongside NZ. And Govt travel budgets are being sashed at the moment, with little prospect for increasing them for a long, LONG time.

Topic: RE: Qantas B737 "Classic" Retirements
Username: Sydscott
Posted 2009-03-23 21:25:36 and read 3066 times.



Quoting Aerokiwi (Reply 15):
Because of the competitive pressures from Air NZ and Emirates, who are now offering far higher standards of service, often on new, widebody jets. Even the NZ A320s and 767s have the new interior product and PTVs.

I don't think you'll see QF respond to said pressure until new aircraft arrive. The fact is that EK is offering the only service they can provide on the route as a by product of long haul flights into Australia. So it's not like they have a choice on what service level they may wish to provide. Having said that the new Jetconnect 738's will have PTV's and I think that with the deployment of JQ over the Tasman you will see increased frequency of service with smaller aircraft. If the Jetconnect 738's work out well flying to Melbourne then there is no reason why QF wouldn't deploy them to BNE/SYD and ADL as well so QF will be able to provide either a lower cost Premium service or an LCC service depending on requirements.

Quoting Aerokiwi (Reply 15):
And if the yields are so low, it is only a matter of time before Jetstar assumes the services - it is exactly what JQ was designed to do - assume low yield routes from the parent QF.

If you look at JQ's deployment it was designed to take up low yield holiday routes and allow QF mainline to concentrate essentially around its Cityflyer service in business markets. But low yields doesn't necessarily mean that JQ will come instead of QF mainline. It depends on the total contribution the route makes to the QF Group and, in the case of AKL, I'd say it would make a network contribution that would justify keeping it mainline. Otherwise it would have already gone the way of CHC. Plus with Jetconnect QF mainline can operate across the Tasman at a lower cost than can QF mainline from Australa. So that could keep QF brand service on the route longer that it otherwise would have.

Quoting Aerokiwi (Reply 15):
And Govt travel budgets are being sashed at the moment, with little prospect for increasing them for a long, LONG time.

Try telling that to the Public Servants in Canberra who actively avoid flying DJ so they can go to the Qantasclub and maintain their status levels.  Smile Or for that matter try telling that to our politicians who I constantly see in Business Class on routes such as CBR-SYD.

Topic: RE: Qantas B737 "Classic" Retirements
Username: Aerokiwi
Posted 2009-03-23 22:09:19 and read 3019 times.



Quoting Sydscott (Reply 16):
Try telling that to the Public Servants in Canberra who actively avoid flying DJ so they can go to the Qantasclub and maintain their status levels. Or for that matter try telling that to our politicians who I constantly see in Business Class on routes such as CBR-SYD.

Again, New Zealand Government perspectives here. Not that inter-govt travel is all that great anyway, but NZ officials travel to Australia a fair bit more than Australian officials coming this way. NZ and Australian governments are different afterall.

Quoting Sydscott (Reply 16):
I don't think you'll see QF respond to said pressure until new aircraft arrive. The fact is that EK is offering the only service they can provide on the route as a by product of long haul flights into Australia. So it's not like they have a choice on what service level they may wish to provide. Having said that the new Jetconnect 738's will have PTV's and I think that with the deployment of JQ over the Tasman you will see increased frequency of service with smaller aircraft.

Which all kinda proves my point.QF keep holding off on responding to competitive pressures in the NZ market, even with the reorganisation of Tasman flights - 737-400s are being used in competition to PTV-equipped A320s, 767s, 777s, A340s and 747s. And of course EK's services are just a byproduct of the Dubai-Oz flights, but that does not mean they don't exist.

QF delay again and again, expecting New Zealand and Australian pax to wait for them to catch up with barely adequate 737-800s. But why should they when superior services and aircraft exist already? Coupled with the lousy JetConnect domestic service, QF isn't doing itself any favours. I believe even one SYD-AKL service is going JetConnect. I'd expect BNE-AKL next, followed by Melbourne as those A321s start arriving and JQ needs to put them somewhere.

Topic: RE: Qantas B737 "Classic" Retirements
Username: Aussie_
Posted 2009-03-23 22:40:26 and read 2976 times.

I'm willing to wager that the last 734s will be operating routes to/from CBR, because they have far more J class seats than the 73Hs, which suits the politicians and senior public servants. These are the most high yield domestic routes in the country...

Also just speaking to the QF 737 fleet manager just yesterday, the classics will be around for quite a while yet, with very few 73Hs being delivered in the next couple of years, and the couple that are due are going to Jetconnect which will still be running trans-tasman

Topic: RE: Qantas B737 "Classic" Retirements
Username: Sydscott
Posted 2009-03-23 23:10:37 and read 2958 times.



Quoting Aerokiwi (Reply 17):
Which all kinda proves my point.QF keep holding off on responding to competitive pressures in the NZ market, even with the reorganisation of Tasman flights - 737-400s are being used in competition to PTV-equipped A320s, 767s, 777s, A340s and 747s.

But they are competing in the same way, with the same aircraft, that they compete in the Australian domestic market. Again, if you're higher yielding domestic market supports your service, why upgrade it for the lower yielding Trans Tasman market? Just because United has PS service doesn't mean that AA or DL should introduce first class between LAX & JFK.

Quoting Aerokiwi (Reply 17):
But why should they when superior services and aircraft exist already?

Simple, people are used to flying QF domestic services and flying to New Zealand is simply an extension of that for the Qantas Club members and Elite Frequent Flyers.

Quoting Aerokiwi (Reply 17):
Coupled with the lousy JetConnect domestic service, QF isn't doing itself any favours

Hence why QF is disappearing and JQ is taking its place. It'll be interesting to see if JQ expands into the Pacific Islands from New Zealand as well.

Quoting Aerokiwi (Reply 17):
I'd expect BNE-AKL next, followed by Melbourne as those A321s start arriving and JQ needs to put them somewhere.

I think you'll find AKL will stay QF mainline. As for BNE, I doubt QF will make that JQ because they are trying to differentiate BNE from the Gold Coast where they are building a JQ hub. So you'll see JQ service from the Gold Coast catering for Leisure traffic and QF service from BNE.

As for MEL, the new Jetconnect 738's will start on that route so if they are successful I'd say they'll expand to ADL and WLG services next.

Topic: RE: Qantas B737 "Classic" Retirements
Username: Aerokiwi
Posted 2009-03-24 03:48:02 and read 2752 times.



Quoting Sydscott (Reply 19):
But they are competing in the same way, with the same aircraft, that they compete in the Australian domestic market. Again, if you're higher yielding domestic market supports your service, why upgrade it for the lower yielding Trans Tasman market? Just because United has PS service doesn't mean that AA or DL should introduce first class between LAX & JFK.

But that's exactly the problem and why QF are slipping behind on the Tasman - they treat it as though the competition is like what they face on Oz domestic. But instead they are putting up 734s against better equipped A320s and some very modern widebodies. It's pathetic, really.

Quoting Sydscott (Reply 19):
I think you'll find AKL will stay QF mainline. As for BNE, I doubt QF will make that JQ because they are trying to differentiate BNE from the Gold Coast where they are building a JQ hub. So you'll see JQ service from the Gold Coast catering for Leisure traffic and QF service from BNE.

As for MEL, the new Jetconnect 738's will start on that route so if they are successful I'd say they'll expand to ADL and WLG services next.

The MEL services will be 734s for several months before they switch to 738s. I believe BNE has always been the lowest yielding of the "Big 3" from AKL, primarily filled with VFR and sun-seeker traffic. It's also packed with competitors, including Royal Brunei, Pacific Blue and Emirates.

Jetstar is taking over one of the AKL-SYD services, so the process is underway. And to be honest, aside from Canberra's 734 routes, I would not be surprised for Jestar to assume the former 734 services on QF domestic once that fleet is withdrawn.

Quoting Sydscott (Reply 19):
Simple, people are used to flying QF domestic services and flying to New Zealand is simply an extension of that for the Qantas Club members and Elite Frequent Flyers.

Which is hardly a compelling argument for "elite" level pax to stay with QF if they keep getting shafted on service. The 737 classics simply have to be taken off the Tasman immediately for QF to be competitive again.

Topic: RE: Qantas B737 "Classic" Retirements
Username: 777ER
Posted 2009-03-24 04:25:03 and read 2696 times.



Quoting Aerokiwi (Reply 13):
QF has done lasting damage to its brand in New Zealand through its use of below-par aircraft and the unreliability of JetConnect.

Just need to look at a recent news paper article on stuff.co.nz about how QF cancelled some of its flights and all the angry comments in the 'have your say' section under the article about how crap QF is! I rarly read any possitive news about QF in those comments.

Quoting Sydscott (Reply 14):
Quoting Aerokiwi (Reply 13):
NZ has a far superior product offering across the Tasman for the foreseeable future, seating, classes offered, IFE etc. Yet QF has no problem slapping 734s on major routes like AKL-MEL/BNE for many months pending arrival of the 738s. At some point, frequent flyers start to notice.

QF treats the tasman like it does its domestic markets with virtually the same product and same aircraft and, more than likely, lower yields. For years we've been told that the Tasman has been low yielding. If this is true then why would QF bother to put its international product into the market when it takes less time to get to NZ from the East Coast than it does to get to Perth?

Why should QF put its international product on routes like the Tasman? Very simple because its an International route and there are other airlines who offer 100% better service then QF. I recently booked tickets to Australia. QF was $50 cheaper oneway ($100 cheaper return), but cause of QFs useless service here from WLG and sub-standard aircraft (that are QFs oldest B737s in service), I booked with NZ cause of the better service.

Topic: RE: Qantas B737 "Classic" Retirements
Username: Sydscott
Posted 2009-03-24 04:58:25 and read 2656 times.



Quoting Aerokiwi (Reply 20):
But that's exactly the problem and why QF are slipping behind on the Tasman - they treat it as though the competition is like what they face on Oz domestic. But instead they are putting up 734s against better equipped A320s and some very modern widebodies. It's pathetic, really.

But clearly they aren't falling behind because if they were they would do something about it! Obviously they are happy with the business they are writing with their current aircraft configuration. Just because you have NZ spending millions upgrading its aircraft to compete on a key route for them, doesn't mean that QF should or will do the same on what are non key international routes that have yields equal to or less than their domestic system. That's the difference in approach here. It's not pathetic, it's business. If they thought they could make more money doing it another way then I'm sure they would.

Quoting Aerokiwi (Reply 20):
The MEL services will be 734s for several months before they switch to 738s.

Indeed.

Quoting Aerokiwi (Reply 20):
I believe BNE has always been the lowest yielding of the "Big 3" from AKL, primarily filled with VFR and sun-seeker traffic

The key to it is whether or not the Jetconnect 738's or Jetstar A320's can make the QF Group more money on the route. I'd hazard a guess that they'll stick with Jetconnect unless they need to get more utilisation out of the A320's flying domestically in New Zealand. So it'll come down to cost there.

Quoting Aerokiwi (Reply 20):
Jetstar is taking over one of the AKL-SYD services, so the process is underway.

That's not correct. The current QF schedule of 4 763's daily are remaining if you review the timetables on Qantas.com. The JQ service is in addition to those.

Quoting Aerokiwi (Reply 20):
I would not be surprised for Jestar to assume the former 734 services on QF domestic once that fleet is withdrawn.

I wouldn't be so sure. There are still 734's flying between ADL-SYD, ADL-MEL, SYD-BNE, SYD-MEL, SYD-CBR etc. Most of these are capital city Cityflyer routes so they can't be given to JQ without annoying premium passengers with the lack of Business Class. So I think you'll find that the remaining 734's in the QF fleet will be replaced 1 for 1 with 738's with JQ A320's used to further grow out places like DRW and Queensland which cater mainly for tourists.

Quoting Aerokiwi (Reply 20):
Which is hardly a compelling argument for "elite" level pax to stay with QF if they keep getting shafted on service.

It's the same service that they get flying SYD-MEL. So nobody is getting shafted on service on what QF views as an extension of its domestic network. As long as the service is the same why wouldn't Frequent Flyers choose Qantas? I mean it's not far to NZ.

Quoting 777ER (Reply 21):
Very simple because its an International route and there are other airlines who offer 100% better service then QF.

That's not how the QF group is viewing it. From their perspective the Tasman is simply an extension of their Australian domestic ops and not worth putting Skybeds and AVOD on the widebodies that fly it. At the end of the day QF is about making a profit and spending millions of dollars on upgrading product in a low yield market would seem to be a silly way to do that. At the end of the day you have a choice not to fly QF if you don't like their service. Obviously not enough people on the Tasman have done that to warrant them upgrading it. Indeed it has lead to QF downgrading New Zealand by deploying JQ there to start all over.

Quoting 777ER (Reply 21):
QF was $50 cheaper oneway ($100 cheaper return), but cause of QFs useless service here from WLG and sub-standard aircraft (that are QFs oldest B737s in service), I booked with NZ cause of the better service.

For most people it comes down to price. If you pay peanuts you get monkeys.

Topic: RE: Qantas B737 "Classic" Retirements
Username: AlexEU
Posted 2009-03-24 05:11:51 and read 2639 times.

At first I tough it's about 737-200 retirement...When is Norfolk Airlines going to retire their 737-200?

Topic: RE: Qantas B737 "Classic" Retirements
Username: ZK-NBT
Posted 2009-03-26 01:52:18 and read 2389 times.



Quoting Sydscott (Reply 22):
That's not correct. The current QF schedule of 4 763's daily are remaining if you review the timetables on Qantas.com. The JQ service is in addition to those.

QF will go 5 daily SYD-AKL in June 2x 763s 3x 734s. 1 of the 763 flights was showing opd by Jet Connect for sometime but has now changed to QF mainline.


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