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Topic: KLM Sells 15 F-100's, But To Who?
Username: KL911
Posted 2009-06-04 10:15:16 and read 7095 times.

According to a Dutch aviation website KLM today sold 15 Fokker 100's to an unidentified client. Who can it be?

Topic: RE: KLM Sells 15 F-100's, But To Who?
Username: Hardiwv
Posted 2009-06-04 10:33:42 and read 7026 times.

Perhaps a client from Libya or Iran?

Rgs,

Topic: RE: KLM Sells 15 F-100's, But To Who?
Username: KL911
Posted 2009-06-04 10:41:32 and read 6984 times.

Hmm, maybe.. what are the largest F100 operators at the moment? It sounds like all 15 go to the same company. Or a new lowcost carrier, like with Helvetic in the past?

Topic: RE: KLM Sells 15 F-100's, But To Who?
Username: YOWza
Posted 2009-06-04 10:48:06 and read 6918 times.

I had the pleasure of flying an F100 operated by Air Bagan in Myanmar over xmas. Maybe them? They are looking to expand.

YOWza

Topic: RE: KLM Sells 15 F-100's, But To Who?
Username: Jlbmedia
Posted 2009-06-04 10:52:07 and read 6886 times.

What is the average age of the F-100s still in service? Do any mainline carriers still have them in their fleets? Compared to other aircraft their size, how do they stack up efficiency wise? thanks John.

Topic: RE: KLM Sells 15 F-100's, But To Who?
Username: Seemyseems
Posted 2009-06-04 10:55:37 and read 6873 times.

According to Airfleets, KLC has 14 FK100's in service with 6 in storage, I though KL was keeping the FK100's?

So the future KLC fleets will be mostly Embraer and FK70 a/c?

Topic: RE: KLM Sells 15 F-100's, But To Who?
Username: KL911
Posted 2009-06-04 11:17:23 and read 6760 times.

KL will keep 5 F100's. The rest will be F70 and E190/170

Topic: RE: KLM Sells 15 F-100's, But To Who?
Username: EddieDude
Posted 2009-06-04 11:55:45 and read 6616 times.

A few years ago, MX would have taken them very gladly for its subsidiary QA "Click". Now MX is also dumping its F100s in favor of 717s.

Topic: RE: KLM Sells 15 F-100's, But To Who?
Username: Wolbo
Posted 2009-06-04 13:15:46 and read 6391 times.

Just a hunch that it might be Air Astana.

Topic: RE: KLM Sells 15 F-100's, But To Who?
Username: Legacytravel
Posted 2009-06-04 23:03:47 and read 6002 times.

YX is taking these planes as a 717 replacement  Yeah sure

Sorry folks that was uncalled for.

Mark in MKE

Topic: RE: KLM Sells 15 F-100's, But To Who?
Username: HSVflier
Posted 2009-06-04 23:20:23 and read 5962 times.

maybe air niugini replacing older birds?

Topic: RE: KLM Sells 15 F-100's, But To Who?
Username: GFFgold
Posted 2009-06-04 23:29:49 and read 5933 times.

I wouldn't be entirely surprised if at least some of them end up in Indonesia.

Topic: RE: KLM Sells 15 F-100's, But To Who?
Username: Ben175
Posted 2009-06-05 01:30:49 and read 5722 times.

How about Skywest Australia? I guess you could call the F100 their "flagship" aircraft.

Topic: RE: KLM Sells 15 F-100's, But To Who?
Username: SXI899
Posted 2009-06-05 03:33:39 and read 5525 times.



Quoting Ben175 (Reply 12):
How about Skywest Australia? I guess you could call the F100 their "flagship" aircraft.

Unlikely, as with the slowdown in the mining industry in WA they barely have enough work for their current fleet. Plus A320s are next on their list for when they start expanding again.

Quoting HSVflier (Reply 10):
maybe air niugini replacing older birds?



Quoting GFFgold (Reply 11):
I wouldn't be entirely surprised if at least some of them end up in Indonesia.

From what I've heard, they are destined for a single company in the Middle East or CIS, although not any of the countries companies already mentioned.

Yorden

Topic: RE: KLM Sells 15 F-100's, But To Who?
Username: Joost
Posted 2009-06-05 03:51:59 and read 5487 times.



Quoting Jlbmedia (Reply 4):
What is the average age of the F-100s still in service? Do any mainline carriers still have them in their fleets?

Not sure about other companies, but the F100 KL is selling now are some of the oldest F100s around, most of them built in 1989, with some younger ones.

The history of the birds is very diverse and some of them have seen a large variety of operators. Take this one for example, PH-OFK, stored at WOE since March 2009:


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The airframes have been originally delivered to Inter Canadian, Intair, Air Europe, KLM, Air Littoral, Midway airlines and TAM. The Midway and TAM frames are newer (1993-1995); possible that these are staying for a little longer.

Topic: RE: KLM Sells 15 F-100's, But To Who?
Username: JQflightie
Posted 2009-06-05 06:59:55 and read 5194 times.

how about Alliance here in Australia, in BNE they have a couple of old US Airways Fokkers... or what appears to be US Airways... i also saw one in PER parked on tuesday..

Topic: RE: KLM Sells 15 F-100's, But To Who?
Username: A300
Posted 2009-06-05 07:44:26 and read 5093 times.



Quoting SXI899 (Reply 13):
From what I've heard, they are destined for a single company in the Middle East or CIS, although not any of the countries companies already mentioned

Do tell us who it is!

Topic: RE: KLM Sells 15 F-100's, But To Who?
Username: Airbuster
Posted 2009-06-05 08:19:38 and read 5018 times.

I also heard it was something in the middle east, presumably Iran, and that there was a training deal involved too, that KLM cityhopper will train the crews for this airline.

KLC is keeping the 5 TAY 650 powered airframes, but rumor within the company has it that these will be sold too, doesn't make much sense to keep just 5 of them next to the E190's.

rgds

AB

Topic: RE: KLM Sells 15 F-100's, But To Who?
Username: Hardiwv
Posted 2009-06-05 09:18:58 and read 4590 times.



Quoting Wolbo (Reply 8):
Just a hunch that it might be Air Astana.



Quoting Airbuster (Reply 17):
presumably Iran

I agree with the above, Iran and Kazakhstan look like possible clients for KL F-100.

Rgs,

Topic: RE: KLM Sells 15 F-100's, But To Who?
Username: JRadier
Posted 2009-06-05 09:19:42 and read 4590 times.



Quoting Airbuster (Reply 17):


KLC is keeping the 5 TAY 650 powered airframes, but rumor within the company has it that these will be sold too, doesn't make much sense to keep just 5 of them next to the E190's.

The F100 has a pretty impressive commonality with the 70's they are keeping, so would it really be that much more expensive?

Topic: RE: KLM Sells 15 F-100's, But To Who?
Username: Mayor
Posted 2009-06-05 09:43:02 and read 4389 times.

In an effort to further irk its customers in Nigeria, Ghana and Kenya, DL will buy 15 Fokker F-100's from KL for use on some of its African routes. This move, in addition to eliminating any non-stop service on DL because of the numerous fuel stops necessary, will also raise the ire of these passengers as the only inflight entertainment will be an enhanced version of the safety briefing.  

Management has hinted that if these work out, the service may be upgraded to the DC-9s DL received in the merger with NW.  Wink  duck 

[Edited 2009-06-05 09:46:42]

Topic: RE: KLM Sells 15 F-100's, But To Who?
Username: Airbuster
Posted 2009-06-11 09:03:28 and read 3424 times.

update from what i heard on the flight deck this week is that they are going to Jordan, apparently a new start up airline....


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