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Topic: Thumbs Up To BA/Iberia Deal
Username: BA1978
Posted 2009-09-30 02:40:48 and read 5945 times.

The chief executive of British Airways has told Sky News that the proposed merger with Iberia will go ahead and may well be finalised before the end of the year

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Bus...rough_And_Pay_Row_Must_Be_Resolved

Topic: RE: Thumbs Up To BA/Iberia Deal
Username: PARAPENTE
Posted 2009-09-30 04:32:53 and read 5758 times.

There is a lot in the article.Since he was clearly talking "on the record" the deal with Iberia must be a "done deal" or e;se he is stupid - which I do not believe he is. Added to that he is clearly optimistic about the joint tickrting arrangements with AA. And finally taking the unions om head on.Its really make or break time.

I hope he pulls all 3 off.

Topic: RE: Thumbs Up To BA/Iberia Deal
Username: Dano1977
Posted 2009-09-30 06:09:44 and read 5564 times.

After watching Willie Walsh on Sky News last night, he certainly does look like a man in control, and very assured of himself, considering what must be in his diary.

Crew industrial relations
Keeping costs under control
BA/IB meger
BA/AA Anti-trust immunity
BA/AA/Oneworld proposed cash injection/controlling stake into JAL
The Proposed BA/BMI take over.

Now i'm not saying he is doing it all single handedly, but as far as the shareholders are concerned, the buck stops with him.

Quoting PARAPENTE (Reply 1):

Topic: RE: Thumbs Up To BA/Iberia Deal
Username: Bongodog1964
Posted 2009-09-30 07:23:45 and read 5395 times.



Quoting Dano1977 (Reply 2):
After watching Willie Walsh on Sky News last night, he certainly does look like a man in control, and very assured of himself, considering what must be in his diary.

Crew industrial relations
Keeping costs under control
BA/IB meger
BA/AA Anti-trust immunity
BA/AA/Oneworld proposed cash injection/controlling stake into JAL
The Proposed BA/BMI take over.

If he pulls off even half of this lot, there's going to be some very unhappy members of Anet  stirthepot 

I.e. all those who keep posting that he's nothing but an incompetent from the bogs, determined to run BA nto the ground.

Topic: RE: Thumbs Up To BA/Iberia Deal
Username: BA787
Posted 2009-09-30 07:37:55 and read 5354 times.



Quoting Bongodog1964 (Reply 3):

Well i for one think the only bad thing in that list could arise from keeping costs under control, but in fairness he'll do what he can to keep the carrier profitable.

I can put it quite simply:

The staff need to accept that their contracts must change to keep the company afloat and thus their jobs secure

Costs should be cut but without losing the essence of BA. It is a full service carrier and must maintain that. I fear that the line between full service and low cost is going to be blurred in terms of BA.

BA/IB merger should go ahead, as should the anti trust immunity.

BA should be wary of the black hole that is JAL, make sure that they have minimal investment and maximum gain from the outcome.

Take on the BMI brand and use the BMI brand to mop up routes that don't require full service. Turn BD into a Low cost outfit that can operate any exBA routes that didn't justify or require the BA service. Use any spare slots from LHR to focus on what little premium traffic it can, and ultimately scale down its premium operations, in favour of more BD LCC services until the economy picks up.

I make it sound simple; of course I realise it's incredibly difficult to put things like that into practice.

BA787

Topic: RE: Thumbs Up To BA/Iberia Deal
Username: Yeogeo
Posted 2009-09-30 08:10:38 and read 5238 times.



Quoting Dano1977 (Reply 2):
BA/AA/Oneworld proposed cash injection/controlling stake into JAL


Cash injection and influence gained, yes, if they can beat out SkyTeam.
A controlling stake seems to me far-fetched. Do you have a source for this? (curious)

yeo

Topic: RE: Thumbs Up To BA/Iberia Deal
Username: PRAirbus
Posted 2009-09-30 10:26:44 and read 4783 times.

Great news! Great news for oneworld and AA! Let's hope AA/BA/IB takes form; it should! Everyone else has antitrust and LHR has been opened...it's about time. DL/AF/KL dominates CDG, AMS...Star/UAL "owns" FRA, VIE, MUC, etc. There's room for all...yeah!  Smile

Topic: RE: Thumbs Up To BA/Iberia Deal
Username: BOStonsox
Posted 2009-09-30 11:05:26 and read 4477 times.

So this is an LH/LX or AF/KL-type merger, right? I imagine that it would have to be. This is good for OneWorld since it keeps LH away.

Topic: RE: Thumbs Up To BA/Iberia Deal
Username: Dano1977
Posted 2009-09-30 11:09:39 and read 4441 times.



Quoting Yeogeo (Reply 5):

That was an error on my behalf, and i apologise.

Topic: RE: Thumbs Up To BA/Iberia Deal
Username: OzarkD9S
Posted 2009-09-30 11:20:45 and read 4340 times.

I hope Finnair makes a similar play for MALEV, but has that even been broached? A little cross-investment BA/IB and AY/ MA and oneworld has a fairly solid Euro-presence that's defensible from the LH and AF/KL juggernauts. There's not much left to buy in Europe that fits the legacy business model, and oneworld needs to shore up Europe.

Topic: RE: Thumbs Up To BA/Iberia Deal
Username: Yeogeo
Posted 2009-09-30 12:06:51 and read 4042 times.



Quoting Dano1977 (Reply 8):

no problem. just looking for new sources
yeo

Topic: RE: Thumbs Up To BA/Iberia Deal
Username: MCOflyer
Posted 2009-09-30 13:39:24 and read 3476 times.

How will the seniority at both airlines work out? I am curious to see if BA/IB does anything like US/HP and NW/DL are doing. What will be the fleet plans be like?

KH

Topic: RE: Thumbs Up To BA/Iberia Deal
Username: PanAm788
Posted 2009-09-30 15:05:40 and read 3049 times.



Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 11):
How will the seniority at both airlines work out? I am curious to see if BA/IB does anything like US/HP and NW/DL are doing. What will be the fleet plans be like?

I'd imagine they'd do what KL/AF did and keep the pilot groups and fleets separate. No country wants to lose their national airline.


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