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Topic: AA Domestic First - Couple Of Questions
Username: Speedbirdegjj
Posted 2009-10-01 06:55:10 and read 3526 times.

Afternoon All,

I have just booked a F ticket DFW-IAH for later this month as the tier points aquired will provide enough to reach BA Exec Silver level, for £160 o/w.

I have searched all over and find either sketchy or inconclusive evidence of the following which im hoping someone in the know can clarify.

1. Does a domestic First ticket on such a route give lounge access?

2. What kind of on board service would there be?.

I was imagining something similar to a BA Club Europe LHR-CDG for example with lounge access and cold meal, but perhaps not?

Any replies greatly appreciated

Cheers
Ryan

Topic: RE: AA Domestic First - Couple Of Questions
Username: TheGreatChecko
Posted 2009-10-01 07:02:20 and read 3522 times.

I'm sure someone will come along with an answer shortly, but in my experience, a great source for this type of information is www.flyertalk.com. It's pretty much an Airliners.net for people who travel a lot.

Checko

Topic: RE: AA Domestic First - Couple Of Questions
Username: CODC10
Posted 2009-10-01 07:31:11 and read 3455 times.

Free drinks, maybe some pretzels or peanuts. You'll likely spend more time on the ground than in the air on that sector, since the air time is less than one hour.

I take it you will be on an MD-80, which has a somewhat narrow F seat, but is super-quiet up front. I like them, but don't expect anything in the way of onboard service outside of a Coke and a smile!

Topic: RE: AA Domestic First - Couple Of Questions
Username: Speedbirdegjj
Posted 2009-10-01 07:55:11 and read 3416 times.

Thanks for the replies guys, i knd of thought as much, so i can presume no lounge access then?

And thanks Checko i had tried FT but couldnt find any info on a similar sector lenght only transcons etc

Cheers
Ryan

Topic: RE: AA Domestic First - Couple Of Questions
Username: SCL767
Posted 2009-10-01 08:09:05 and read 3391 times.



Quoting CODC10 (Reply 2):
I take it you will be on an MD-80

AA also operates DFW-IAH with the B738. The flight time is usually around 45 minutes.

Topic: RE: AA Domestic First - Couple Of Questions
Username: DLPMMM
Posted 2009-10-01 08:45:08 and read 3294 times.



Quoting Speedbirdegjj (Reply 3):
Thanks for the replies guys, i knd of thought as much, so i can presume no lounge access then?

No lounge access for domestic F class DFW-IAH.

Topic: RE: AA Domestic First - Couple Of Questions
Username: MAH4546
Posted 2009-10-01 08:47:39 and read 3288 times.

AA is pretty good about serving meals in First, even on short flights like ORD-LGA, but 45 minutes definitely does not have a meal

Quoting Speedbirdegjj (Reply 3):
Thanks for the replies guys, i knd of thought as much, so i can presume no lounge access then?

No lounge access unless you are on the flight as part of an international itinerary, an Admiral's Club member, have an American Express Platinum charge card (charge, not credit), or is OneWorld Emerald or Sapphire, with the status acquired through an airline other than AA.

Topic: RE: AA Domestic First - Couple Of Questions
Username: Viscount724
Posted 2009-10-01 14:26:39 and read 3112 times.



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 6):
or is OneWorld Emerald or Sapphire, with the status acquired through an airline other than AA.

How can the lounge attendant tell whether the cardholder earned their status miles from AA as opposed to another Oneworld carrier?

Also, while on that subject, I've always been curious why Oneworld uses such strange terminology as Emerald and Sapphire for status levels rather than the more usual Silver/Gold/Platinum etc.

Topic: RE: AA Domestic First - Couple Of Questions
Username: Crosswinds21
Posted 2009-10-01 14:34:27 and read 3098 times.



Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 7):
How can the lounge attendant tell whether the cardholder earned their status miles from AA as opposed to another Oneworld carrier?

Because the passenger will have a status card issued by his airline with that airline's logo on it.

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 7):
Also, while on that subject, I've always been curious why Oneworld uses such strange terminology as Emerald and Sapphire for status levels rather than the more usual Silver/Gold/Platinum etc.

My guess is because each airline within Oneworld uses its own terminology for different elite levels so the Emerald/Sapphire/Ruby status is just a Oneworld-common term.

Topic: RE: AA Domestic First - Couple Of Questions
Username: Viscount724
Posted 2009-10-01 14:50:33 and read 3066 times.



Quoting Crosswinds21 (Reply 8):
Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 7):
How can the lounge attendant tell whether the cardholder earned their status miles from AA as opposed to another Oneworld carrier?

Because the passenger will have a status card issued by his airline with that airline's logo on it.

My question was, for example, if someone was an IB/LA/JL FFP member with Sapphire or Emerald status, how would an AA lounge attendant know whether the status was acquired from flying carriers other than AA and not from flying AA.. MAH4546 said that for AA lounge access with a Oneworld Emerald/Sapphire card, the status miles had to be earned from flying carriers other than AA. Or maybe I'm misinterpreting.

Topic: RE: AA Domestic First - Couple Of Questions
Username: Crosswinds21
Posted 2009-10-01 15:00:58 and read 3051 times.



Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 9):
My question was, for example, if someone was an IB/LA/JL FFP member with Sapphire or Emerald status, how would an AA lounge attendant know whether the status was acquired from flying carriers other than AA and not from flying AA.. MAH4546 said that for AA lounge access with a Oneworld Emerald/Sapphire card, the status miles had to be earned from flying carriers other than AA. Or maybe I'm misinterpreting.

Oh ok, I understand your question. What MAH4546 was saying is that it's all about who issued your card. For purposes of gaining access to Admiral's Clubs on domestic US itineraries, the only way to do this would be to be a OW Emerald or Sapphire member with any airline other than AA. So if you have a card issued by AY or RJ or QF then you're good. If it's issued by AA, then it's a no go.

Now, different OW airlines have different criteria to earn Emerald or Sapphire status. It doesn't mean that, for example, if your primary FF program is with QF then you have to only fly QF to gain status. QF FF members can fly any OW airline (including AA) and earn miles towards status. (Although when you are flying a partner airline then in some cases not all fare classes earn miles but that's a different story.) So in the example you used, if someone is a IB/LA/JL frequent flyer, he probably wouldn't collect miles to different account. He would probably have a primary FF program - say, LA - and collect miles for all his IB/LA/JL flights there. Then, once he'd have enough EQMs, he'd get Oneworld status and get a card issued by LA.

I hope that makes sense.  Smile

Topic: RE: AA Domestic First - Couple Of Questions
Username: Viscount724
Posted 2009-10-01 15:44:47 and read 2978 times.



Quoting Crosswinds21 (Reply 10):
Oh ok, I understand your question. What MAH4546 was saying is that it's all about who issued your card.

Thanks. All clear now!

Topic: RE: AA Domestic First - Couple Of Questions
Username: Carfield
Posted 2009-10-01 16:03:28 and read 2937 times.

Well, there won't be any meal services between IAH and DFW at all! In general, most US airlines won't offer a meal service until the flight is above two hours.

There will be a full beverage service, accompanied by a bag of AA premium snack mix.

Carfield

Topic: RE: AA Domestic First - Couple Of Questions
Username: Crosswinds21
Posted 2009-10-01 16:14:04 and read 2908 times.



Quoting Carfield (Reply 12):
Well, there won't be any meal services between IAH and DFW at all! In general, most US airlines won't offer a meal service until the flight is above two hours.

There will be a full beverage service, accompanied by a bag of AA premium snack mix.

Carfield

Although, as pointed out in this thread, AA is much better than other US airlines in terms of meal service. AA will, on some routes, serve a meal when the flight time is below the minimum required for a meal. Oftentimes, it will be hot meals as well. Certainly better than DL, where I think the minimum flight time for a meal is 3.5 hours and eevn then, it may be a cold meal IIRC.


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