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Topic: OAG Changes 12/14/09:AA/AF/AS/B6/DL/NW/UA/US
Username: Enilria
Posted 2009-12-14 10:07:29 and read 8535 times.

The American holidays threw things off and a bunch of stuff was posted today, so here's another update.

This compares what is for sale this week for the stated period versus what was for sale the prior week...NOT the prior year.

How to read:
AAA-BBB 3>2 APR means a reduction in one roundtrip from 3 to 2 for April only
AAA-BBB 4>6 MAY- means an increase from 4 to 6 roundtrips starting in May and continuing
AAA-BBB 4>6 MAY-JUN, 5>6 JUL means the change is only for the stated period May to June and then a different change for July in the same route

Please take it easy on any typos...

AA
MIA-AND Mountain View - Moffett Federal Airfield (NAS) (NUQ / KNUQ), USA - California AND Nassau - Lynden Pindling International (Windsor Field) (NAS / MYNN), Bahamas">NAS 11>12 JAN-
MIA-RSW 2>3 JAN-
DFW-SHV 9>10 FEB-MAR

AF
IAD-CDG 2>3 MAY-

AS
BOS-SEA 2>1 MAY
FCA-SEA 2>3 JUN-
LAS-PDX 3>4 JUN-
LAX-PDX 5>4 MAR-
MSO-SEA 3>4 JUN-
OGG-SEA 1>2 JUN-

B6
BOS-AUA 1/WK>4/WK MAY-
BOS-CUN 1/WK>3/WK MAY-
BOS-MBJ 1/WK>2/WK MAY-

CO
EYW-FLL 4>6 JAN-
FLL-FPO 5>4 JAN-
FLL-AND Mountain View - Moffett Federal Airfield (NAS) (NUQ / KNUQ), USA - California AND Nassau - Lynden Pindling International (Windsor Field) (NAS / MYNN), Bahamas">NAS 6>4 JAN-
MCO-MIA 4>5 JAN-
MIA-TPA 3>4 JAN-

DL
ATL-AUA 8/WK>2 JUN-
ATL-COS 1>2 JUN-
ATL-BZN 0>2/WK JUN-
ATL-FCA 0>1/WK JUL
ATL-HOU 8>7 FEB-
ATL-HSV 11>10 FEB-JUN
ATL-MLI 4>5 JUN-
ATL-PDX 3>4 JUN-
ATL-SEA 5>7 JUN-
CVG-SEA 1>2 JUN-
LAX-SAN 5>6 APR-
SLC-BOI 5>6 JUN-
SLC-BUR 3>4 JUN-
SLC-BZN 5>6 JUN-
SLC-CPR 2>3 JUN-
SLC-FCA 4>6 JUN-
SLC-GEG 4>5 JUN-
SLC-MEM 3>2 JUN-
SLC-PDX 6>8 JUN-
SLC-PSC 5>6 JUN-

THESE CHANGES FROM LAST WEEK WERE REVERSED AS EXPECTED AND NOW REMAIN CANCELLED.
CVG-CAE 0>1 FEB- NOW 1>0
CVG-DSM 0>1 FEB- NOW 1>0
CVG-OKC 0>1 FEB- NOW 1>0
CVG-PVD 0>1 FEB- NOW 1>0
CVG-TRI 0>1 FEB- NOW 1>0
CVG-TUL 0>1 FEB- NOW 1>0

NW
DTW-ATW 4>5 JUN-
DTW-BZN DELAYED START FROM JUN TO JUL
DTW-HNL 0>3/WK JUN-
MSP-HNL 1<4/WK JUN-
DTW-LAX 5>6 APR-
DTW-LSE 1>2 JUN-
DTW-OMA 4>5 JUN-
MEM-GSO 0>1 JUN- SERVICE NOW GAPPED FROM MAR-MAY
MEM-ICT 2>3 JUN-
MEM-SGF 2>3 JUN-
MEM-SLC 0>1 JUN-
MSP-LAX 6>7 APR-JUN
MSP-LNK 4>3 JUN-
MSP-MLI 2>3 JUN-
MSP-OMA 6>7 MAY-JUN
MSP-PDX 4>5 JUN-
MSP-PSC 0>1 JUN-
MSP-RAP 3>4 JUN-
MSP-RST 5>4 JUN-
MSP-SEA 8>9 JUN-

FL
ATL-CLT 4>3 FEB-APR
ATL-DAY 4>3 FEB-APR
ATL-DEN 4>3 FEB-APR
ATL-HOU 5>4 FEB-APR
ATL-IND 4>3 FEB-APR
ATL-PIT 4>3 FEB-APR
BWI-FLL 5>4 FEB-
MCO-DSM 0>2/WK MAR-
ALL THE SKYWEST FLIGHTS AT MKE IMPLEMENTED REDUCED WEEKEND SCHEDULES (JAN-) WITH 1 OR 2 WEEKEND CANCELS ON EACH ROUTE.

NK
ATL-MYR 0>1 MAY-

UA
DEN-BIL 4>5 APR-JUN
DEN-FAR 3>4 APR-
DEN-GUC 2>1 APR-JUN
DEN-HDN 4>2 APR-JUN; 4>3 JUL-
DEN-MSO 4>3 APR-JUN
DEN-ONT 4>3 APR-JUN
DEN-STL 4>5 APR-
DEN-TUS 5>6 APR-JUN
ORD-ABE 3>4 APR-
ORD-LEX 3>4 APR-

US
LGA-PWM 6>5 FEB-
LGA-RIC 5>6 FEB-
PHX-MBJ SEASON EXTENDED FROM APR TO SEP

WS
ACY-YYZ 1>4/WK MAR-MAY; ENDS IN MAY AS PRIOR

Topic: RE: OAG Changes 12/14/09:AA/AF/AS/B6/DL/NW/UA/US
Username: ThegreatRDU
Posted 2009-12-14 10:11:57 and read 8507 times.

Quoting Enilria (Thread starter):
ATL-PDX 3>4 JUN-



Quoting Enilria (Thread starter):
SLC-PDX 6>8 JUN-



Quoting Enilria (Thread starter):
MSP-PDX 4>5 JUN-

Good to see them bolster PDX....but PDX still has me wondering....

Quoting Enilria (Thread starter):
FL
ATL-CLT 4>3 FEB-APR
ATL-DAY 4>3 FEB-APR
ATL-DEN 4>3 FEB-APR
ATL-HOU 5>4 FEB-APR
ATL-IND 4>3 FEB-APR
ATL-PIT 4>3 FEB-APR
BWI-FLL 5>4 FEB-

All downgrades...BWI-FLL surprised me...

[Edited 2009-12-14 10:32:26 by thegreatRDU]

Topic: RE: OAG Changes 12/14/09:AA/AF/AS/B6/DL/NW/UA/US
Username: Enilria
Posted 2009-12-14 10:19:56 and read 8439 times.



Quoting ThegreatRDU (Reply 1):
All downgrades...BWI-FLL surprised me...

What I would take from that is that they needed to find a couple of airplanes. I would speculate they were overscheduled by two planes and were waiting to see what had the least bookings to do the cancels. It's highly unlikely they would drop that flying in peak season to put planes on the ground.

Quoting ThegreatRDU (Reply 1):
Good to see them bolster PDX....but the downgauge of PDX-AMS has me wondering....

I'm assuming this is their normal seasonal build, but I don't really look at the prior year so I'll let somebody else do that comparison.

Topic: RE: OAG Changes 12/14/09:AA/AF/AS/B6/DL/NW/UA/US
Username: Panamair
Posted 2009-12-14 10:23:04 and read 8419 times.



Quoting ThegreatRDU (Reply 1):
but the downgauge of PDX-AMS has me wondering....

What downgauge of PDX-AMS? It's still showing as operating with an A332 daily this coming summer, which is actually an upgauge compared to this past summer when it was (and still is) a 763ER.

Topic: RE: OAG Changes 12/14/09:AA/AF/AS/B6/DL/NW/UA/US
Username: DeltaL1011man
Posted 2009-12-14 10:25:35 and read 8404 times.



Quoting Enilria (Thread starter):
LAX-SAN 5>6 APR-

I guess it is starting out pretty strong.......I would still trade it for LAX-SFO.

Topic: RE: OAG Changes 12/14/09:AA/AF/AS/B6/DL/NW/UA/US
Username: Flavio340
Posted 2009-12-14 10:27:04 and read 8374 times.

Enilira-

Thank you so much for your weekly updates. Do you know what aircraft type will be used on ATL-BZN and ATL-FCA?

Topic: RE: OAG Changes 12/14/09:AA/AF/AS/B6/DL/NW/UA/US
Username: KcrwFlyer
Posted 2009-12-14 10:30:16 and read 8328 times.



Quoting Enilria (Thread starter):

ORD-ABE 3>4 APR-
ORD-LEX 3>4 APR-

Response to American Eagle entering these markets?

Quoting Enilria (Thread starter):

FL
ATL-CLT 4>3 FEB-APR
ATL-DAY 4>3 FEB-APR
ATL-DEN 4>3 FEB-APR
ATL-HOU 5>4 FEB-APR
ATL-IND 4>3 FEB-APR
ATL-PIT 4>3 FEB-APR
BWI-FLL 5>4 FEB-

I wonder if these aircraft will have more time idle of if we'll see some more expansion announced in the near future?

Topic: RE: OAG Changes 12/14/09:AA/AF/AS/B6/DL/NW/UA/US
Username: Panamair
Posted 2009-12-14 10:31:46 and read 8327 times.



Quoting Flavio340 (Reply 5):
Do you know what aircraft type will be used on ATL-BZN and ATL-FCA?

Both will be using 73H (737-800 winglets)

Topic: RE: OAG Changes 12/14/09:AA/AF/AS/B6/DL/NW/UA/US
Username: ThegreatRDU
Posted 2009-12-14 10:33:10 and read 8310 times.



Quoting Panamair (Reply 3):

What downgauge of PDX-AMS?

I don't know I made a mistake alright

Topic: RE: OAG Changes 12/14/09:AA/AF/AS/B6/DL/NW/UA/US
Username: DeltaL1011man
Posted 2009-12-14 10:34:40 and read 8297 times.



Quoting Flavio340 (Reply 5):

Both are on 73Hs.

Topic: RE: OAG Changes 12/14/09:AA/AF/AS/B6/DL/NW/UA/US
Username: Enilria
Posted 2009-12-14 10:42:04 and read 8248 times.



Quoting DeltaL1011man (Reply 4):
I guess it is starting out pretty strong.......I would still trade it for LAX-SFO.

I doubt that's the reason. It's probably a tweak for connectivity that required another flight.

Quoting DeltaL1011man (Reply 4):
Thank you so much for your weekly updates.

Thanks!

Quoting KcrwFlyer (Reply 6):
Response to American Eagle entering these markets?

Hadn't thought of that, but a good guess.

Quoting KcrwFlyer (Reply 6):
I wonder if these aircraft will have more time idle of if we'll see some more expansion announced in the near future?

As I said above, I think they were overscheduled. I can't see them adding something for Feb at this point. That's just 45 days away!

Quoting Panamair (Reply 7):
Quoting Flavio340 (Reply 5):
Do you know what aircraft type will be used on ATL-BZN and ATL-FCA?

Both will be using 73H (737-800 winglets)

Correct.

Topic: RE: OAG Changes 12/14/09:AA/AF/AS/B6/DL/NW/UA/US
Username: DeltaL1011man
Posted 2009-12-14 10:46:17 and read 8210 times.



Quoting Panamair (Reply 7):

beat me to it.

Quoting Enilria (Reply 10):
Thanks!

I didn't say that but i feel the same way......thanks for doing this.

Topic: RE: OAG Changes 12/14/09:AA/AF/AS/B6/DL/NW/UA/US
Username: Airport
Posted 2009-12-14 10:47:07 and read 8210 times.

Thank you for your fantastic weekly updates. I really appreciate you taking the trouble to post these.  Smile

Quoting Enilria (Thread starter):
SLC-BOI 5>6 JUN-

Just out of curiousity, is it possible to elaborate? It kind of left me perplexed. Currently DL is showing that they will operate 8 daily flights between SLC-BOI with 2 of them being mainline and 6 of them being DL connection, and it's been like that for a long while now. Does 5 entail regional equipment, mainline equipment, or both? Does the OAG specify equipment?

Again, thanks for posting these every week. It's greatly appreciated by me.

Topic: RE: OAG Changes 12/14/09:AA/AF/AS/B6/DL/NW/UA/US
Username: Enilria
Posted 2009-12-14 11:05:30 and read 8095 times.



Quoting Airport (Reply 12):
Thank you for your fantastic weekly updates. I really appreciate you taking the trouble to post these.



Quoting DeltaL1011man (Reply 11):
I didn't say that but i feel the same way......thanks for doing this.

Appreciated.

Quoting Airport (Reply 12):
Does the OAG specify equipment?

Sure, it's just too much work to watch eqp.

Here is the detail by month. As you can see, it is way too much info for most people, particularly if multiplied by thousands of routes! Plus formatting it to make it even somewhat legible is tough. Enjoy!

Origin-Dest AL EQP Dec Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep
SLC-BOI DL CRJ 1.2 2.0 2.6 2.9 2.9 2.8 3.0 3.0 2.9 2.9
SLC-BOI DL M90 1.4 1.8 2.0 2.0 2.0 2.0 2.0 2.0 2.0 2.0
SLC-BOI DL 738 0.1 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
SLC-BOI DL CR7 0.6 1.0 1.3 1.3 1.1 1.0 1.0 1.0 1.0 1.0
SLC-BOI DL CR9 3.5 2.5 1.9 1.6 1.9 2.0 2.0 2.0 2.0 2.0
SLC-BOI DL 73H 0.1 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
SLC-BOI WN 733 0.1 0.6 0.3 0.6 1.0 1.0 1.0 1.0 1.0 1.0
SLC-BOI WN 73G 1.8 1.0 1.4 1.2 0.9 0.8 0.9 0.8 0.9 0.9

Topic: RE: OAG Changes 12/14/09:AA/AF/AS/B6/DL/NW/UA/US
Username: C767P
Posted 2009-12-14 11:22:34 and read 7975 times.



Quoting DeltaL1011man (Reply 4):
I guess it is starting out pretty strong.......I would still trade it for LAX-SFO.

It has not started yet! Starts February 11.

LAX-SFO is needed in addition to, not instead of SAN-LAX. Eagle is just an unacceptable option for this leg.

Topic: RE: OAG Changes 12/14/09:AA/AF/AS/B6/DL/NW/UA/US
Username: MAH4546
Posted 2009-12-14 11:39:14 and read 7888 times.



Quoting C767P (Reply 14):

LAX-SFO is needed in addition to, not instead of SAN-LAX. Eagle is just an unacceptable option for this leg.

Eagle does not fly LAX-SFO; it is all mainline on AA.

And even if Eagle (or any other RJs) flew this route, I fail to see how a 337 mile route that often takes less than an hour to complete is unacceptable for an RJ.

Topic: RE: OAG Changes 12/14/09:AA/AF/AS/B6/DL/NW/UA/US
Username: Enilria
Posted 2009-12-14 11:51:54 and read 7841 times.



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 15):
I fail to see how a 337 mile route that often takes less than an hour to complete is unacceptable for an RJ.

In most cases I'd agree, but there are a lot better options on that route where you don't have to gate-check your carry-on.

Topic: RE: OAG Changes 12/14/09:AA/AF/AS/B6/DL/NW/UA/US
Username: MAH4546
Posted 2009-12-14 11:57:08 and read 7806 times.



Quoting Enilria (Reply 16):
Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 15):
I fail to see how a 337 mile route that often takes less than an hour to complete is unacceptable for an RJ.

In most cases I'd agree, but there are a lot better options on that route where you don't have to gate-check your carry-on.

True, which probably helps explain why there are no RJs on LAX-SFO.

Topic: RE: OAG Changes 12/14/09:AA/AF/AS/B6/DL/NW/UA/US
Username: C767P
Posted 2009-12-14 12:01:50 and read 7775 times.



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 15):
Eagle does not fly LAX-SFO; it is all mainline on AA.

And even if Eagle (or any other RJs) flew this route, I fail to see how a 337 mile route that often takes less than an hour to complete is unacceptable for an RJ.

I am talking about Eagle being unacceptable for the Delta customer on SAN-LAX. Too many problems.

I agree with L1011 that DL needs to start LAX-SFO, but they need to add it in addition to SAN-LAX, not instead of.

Topic: RE: OAG Changes 12/14/09:AA/AF/AS/B6/DL/NW/UA/US
Username: Jetbluefan1
Posted 2009-12-14 12:46:33 and read 7555 times.



Quoting Enilria (Thread starter):
BOS-SEA 2>1 MAY

This may have something to do with B6 bringing BOS-SEA from 7x/weekly to 10x/weekly.

JetBluefan1

Topic: RE: OAG Changes 12/14/09:AA/AF/AS/B6/DL/NW/UA/US
Username: MAH4546
Posted 2009-12-14 12:48:50 and read 7539 times.



Quoting C767P (Reply 18):

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 15):
Eagle does not fly LAX-SFO; it is all mainline on AA.

And even if Eagle (or any other RJs) flew this route, I fail to see how a 337 mile route that often takes less than an hour to complete is unacceptable for an RJ.

I am talking about Eagle being unacceptable for the Delta customer on SAN-LAX. Too many problems.

What are the problems? The Saabs are gone.

Quoting Jetbluefan1 (Reply 19):


Quoting Enilria (Thread starter):
BOS-SEA 2>1 MAY

This may have something to do with B6 bringing BOS-SEA from 7x/weekly to 10x/weekly.

No, it probably does has nothing to do with that. AS did the same last year.

Topic: RE: OAG Changes 12/14/09:AA/AF/AS/B6/DL/NW/UA/US
Username: Slcdeltarumd11
Posted 2009-12-14 12:55:36 and read 7482 times.

Its funny to see SLC-MEM get reduced to two flights a day connecting two hubs. On Delta.com i still see three flights listed. The only thing i notice is in July one of the flights gets upgraded to an airbus but three are still listed when i just looked it up. Is there a delay on delta.com booking engine?

Topic: RE: OAG Changes 12/14/09:AA/AF/AS/B6/DL/NW/UA/US
Username: C767P
Posted 2009-12-14 13:04:24 and read 7402 times.



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 20):
What are the problems? The Saabs are gone.

I loved the Saabs, aircraft type is not the problem. When Ealge is your first leg on a Delta ticket you are unable to check in online and you can not reserve a seat. You do not automatically get miles for it, you have to request them. When I called with a few questions, it was as if this codeshare never existed for how many people knew what I was talking about. The shuttle buses from the Eagle Terminal to T5 at LAX are relatively infrequent.

Topic: RE: OAG Changes 12/14/09:AA/AF/AS/B6/DL/NW/UA/US
Username: Altairf28
Posted 2009-12-14 13:27:38 and read 7237 times.



Quoting Slcdeltarumd11 (Reply 21):
Its funny to see SLC-MEM get reduced to two flights a day connecting two hubs. On Delta.com i still see three flights listed. The only thing i notice is in July one of the flights gets upgraded to an airbus but three are still listed when i just looked it up. Is there a delay on delta.com booking engine?

NW's changes include:

Quoting Enilria (Thread starter):
MEM-SLC 0>1 JUN

Looks like no change in frequency, just a change in whose metal it is (remember there's no SOC yet so even though they expect to get it by June all changes in carrier have to be posted as such).

Topic: RE: OAG Changes 12/14/09:AA/AF/AS/B6/DL/NW/UA/US
Username: Enilria
Posted 2009-12-14 13:35:23 and read 7172 times.



Quoting Jetbluefan1 (Reply 19):
This may have something to do with B6 bringing BOS-SEA from 7x/weekly to 10x/weekly.

Keep in mind that is just for May only. The 2nd trip now starts in June. When does the B6 flight start? If it starts in May then I agree. AS often swoops in only for the best of the season and lets the other guys suffer in shoulder. They always did that on DEN-ANC.

Topic: RE: OAG Changes 12/14/09:AA/AF/AS/B6/DL/NW/UA/US
Username: Indy
Posted 2009-12-14 14:25:25 and read 6853 times.



Quoting Enilria (Thread starter):
ATL-CLT 4>3 FEB-APR
ATL-DAY 4>3 FEB-APR
ATL-DEN 4>3 FEB-APR
ATL-HOU 5>4 FEB-APR
ATL-IND 4>3 FEB-APR
ATL-PIT 4>3 FEB-APR

Isn't it a little strange to make cuts to your hub over spring break?

Topic: RE: OAG Changes 12/14/09:AA/AF/AS/B6/DL/NW/UA/US
Username: Pgh234
Posted 2009-12-14 14:47:18 and read 6928 times.



Quoting Indy (Reply 25):
Isn't it a little strange to make cuts to your hub over spring break?

Well, they did take over some Apple/USA3000 flying...and I bet that is high demand over the same period. Maybe that is why?

Topic: RE: OAG Changes 12/14/09:AA/AF/AS/B6/DL/NW/UA/US
Username: BayAreaBlue
Posted 2009-12-14 14:59:38 and read 6827 times.



Quoting Enilria (Reply 24):
Keep in mind that is just for May only. The 2nd trip now starts in June. When does the B6 flight start? If it starts in May then I agree. AS often swoops in only for the best of the season and lets the other guys suffer in shoulder. They always did that on DEN-ANC.

The 2nd daily flight comes back as a redeye on 6/6/10. Funny that I look into the schedule far out and it is loaded until 11/6/10. I am sure the 2nd daily will go back to daytime after the summer season just like previous years.

Topic: RE: OAG Changes 12/14/09:AA/AF/AS/B6/DL/NW/UA/US
Username: Enilria
Posted 2009-12-14 17:35:56 and read 6141 times.



Quoting Indy (Reply 25):
Isn't it a little strange to make cuts to your hub over spring break?



Quoting Pgh234 (Reply 26):

Well, they did take over some Apple/USA3000 flying...and I bet that is high demand over the same period. Maybe that is why?

I bet PGH is right. That would explain why they suddenly needed two planes.

Quoting BayAreaBlue (Reply 27):
The 2nd daily flight comes back as a redeye on 6/6/10. Funny that I look into the schedule far out and it is loaded until 11/6/10. I am sure the 2nd daily will go back to daytime after the summer season just like previous years.

I assume you are talking about B6? B6's schedule isn't even loaded that far out. If you are talking about AS, I 'd be fairly certain the 2nd trip won't make it through September and October.

Topic: RE: OAG Changes 12/14/09:AA/AF/AS/B6/DL/NW/UA/US
Username: Jetlanta
Posted 2009-12-14 18:48:54 and read 5815 times.



Quoting Pgh234 (Reply 26):
Well, they did take over some Apple/USA3000 flying...and I bet that is high demand over the same period. Maybe that is why?

And those markets are primarily business markets that have plenty of nonstop capacity to sun destinations.

Topic: RE: OAG Changes 12/14/09:AA/AF/AS/B6/DL/NW/UA/US
Username: BayAreaBlue
Posted 2009-12-14 19:29:17 and read 5611 times.



Quoting Jetlanta (Reply 29):
I assume you are talking about B6? B6's schedule isn't even loaded that far out. If you are talking about AS, I 'd be fairly certain the 2nd trip won't make it through September and October.

Nope, that was AS.

Topic: RE: OAG Changes 12/14/09:AA/AF/AS/B6/DL/NW/UA/US
Username: MSPNWA
Posted 2009-12-14 19:54:00 and read 5504 times.

MSP-HNL has been 4/WK since September, so is that really a change? Does it go back to daily at some point before June?

Quoting Enilria (Thread starter):
MSP-PSC 0>1 JUN-

Good. Should never have been cut in the first place.

Quoting Enilria (Thread starter):
MSP-RST 5>4 JUN-

That's a shame. RST used to be a very convenient way for people south of MSP to shorten and simplify their flying experience. It wasn't long ago that DC-9s and large RJs frequently RST. Now it's 4 CRJ-200s and a single SF34. The viability of RST is fading quickly.

Topic: RE: OAG Changes 12/14/09:AA/AF/AS/B6/DL/NW/UA/US
Username: DeltaL1011man
Posted 2009-12-15 05:13:16 and read 4733 times.



Quoting C767P (Reply 14):
It has not started yet! Starts February 11.

was talking about ticket sales.

Quoting Altairf28 (Reply 23):
Looks like no change in frequency, just a change in whose metal it is (remember there's no SOC yet so even though they expect to get it by June all changes in carrier have to be posted as such).

They will have have it Jan 1st.

Topic: RE: OAG Changes 12/14/09:AA/AF/AS/B6/DL/NW/UA/US
Username: Enilria
Posted 2009-12-15 07:18:42 and read 4420 times.



Quoting MSPNWA (Reply 31):
MSP-HNL has been 4/WK since September, so is that really a change? Does it go back to daily at some point before June?

That *was* a seasonal reduction. It was planned to return to daily next Summer and now it is not. Again plz understand what this report is...see below...

"This compares what is for sale this week for the stated period versus what was for sale the prior week..."

Topic: RE: OAG Changes 12/14/09:AA/AF/AS/B6/DL/NW/UA/US
Username: Hatbutton
Posted 2009-12-15 08:17:27 and read 4269 times.



Quoting Enilria (Reply 28):
I assume you are talking about B6? B6's schedule isn't even loaded that far out. If you are talking about AS, I 'd be fairly certain the 2nd trip won't make it through September and October.

Why not? AS has extremely high load factors out of BOS and a good chunk of those pax are premium pax.

Quoting Indy (Reply 25):
:
ATL-CLT 4>3 FEB-APR
ATL-DAY 4>3 FEB-APR
ATL-DEN 4>3 FEB-APR
ATL-HOU 5>4 FEB-APR
ATL-IND 4>3 FEB-APR
ATL-PIT 4>3 FEB-APR

Isn't it a little strange to make cuts to your hub over spring break?

If I were a spring breaker I don't think I'd be heading to any of those cities!  Big grin

Topic: RE: OAG Changes 12/14/09:AA/AF/AS/B6/DL/NW/UA/US
Username: MSPNWA
Posted 2009-12-15 10:40:18 and read 4002 times.



Quoting Enilria (Reply 33):
That *was* a seasonal reduction. It was planned to return to daily next Summer and now it is not. Again plz understand what this report is...see below...

"This compares what is for sale this week for the stated period versus what was for sale the prior week..."

Just asking a question . . .

Since I never remember reading that the cut was originally seasonal, I was wondering what the deal was.

Topic: RE: OAG Changes 12/14/09:AA/AF/AS/B6/DL/NW/UA/US
Username: Enilria
Posted 2009-12-15 12:00:20 and read 3904 times.



Quoting Hatbutton (Reply 34):
Why not? AS has extremely high load factors out of BOS and a good chunk of those pax are premium pax.

Just because B6 is becoming a VERY seasonal airline. My guess is that the non-seasonal core (routes without seasonal adjustments) is well under 50%. I'd be surprised if that route made it out of the other 50% with seasonal adjustment.

Quoting MSPNWA (Reply 35):
Just asking a question . . .

Since I never remember reading that the cut was originally seasonal, I was wondering what the deal was.

They may not have announced the cut as seasonal (cuts never get announced anyway), but it was selling as daily for the Summer until now.

Topic: RE: OAG Changes 12/14/09:AA/AF/AS/B6/DL/NW/UA/US
Username: KcrwFlyer
Posted 2009-12-16 05:42:09 and read 3563 times.



Quoting Hatbutton (Reply 34):
If I were a spring breaker I don't think I'd be heading to any of those cities!

No, you'd be leaving them.

Topic: RE: OAG Changes 12/14/09:AA/AF/AS/B6/DL/NW/UA/US
Username: UncGSO
Posted 2009-12-16 19:23:14 and read 3284 times.



Quoting Enilria (Thread starter):
MEM-GSO 0>1 JUN- SERVICE NOW GAPPED FROM MAR-MAY

So DL is keeping this route (more or less) for the time being?


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