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Topic: Southwest Adding Four More Flights At DEN
Username: ScottB
Posted 2010-01-21 05:00:27 and read 4183 times.

Announced as part of their 2009 earnings report. They will add one additional round-trip from DEN to BOI, FLL, HOU, and ONT effective June 13, 2010. This appears to put them at 133 peak daily departures from DEN in June. See the fifth paragraph of http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix....-newsArticle&ID=1377445&highlight=

Topic: RE: Southwest Adding Four More Flights At DEN
Username: Pe@rson
Posted 2010-01-21 05:47:16 and read 4073 times.

So, 43 WN cities served non-stop from DEN (per its website). Rather impressive thus far.

Topic: RE: Southwest Adding Four More Flights At DEN
Username: ThegreatRDU
Posted 2010-01-21 05:47:28 and read 4073 times.

Good, it seems STL and DEn are rising stars for WN

Topic: RE: Southwest Adding Four More Flights At DEN
Username: AAflyguy
Posted 2010-01-21 08:01:59 and read 3772 times.

That's interesting news from WN today. Loading the 2nd BOI trip 2-months before the 1st one begins, and it comes online only 3-months after service is initiated on the route. Clearly, WN is building DEN to be a true connecting hub. Does it serve that many cities (the 43 stated in a recent News Release) from any other base? I know several other focus cities offer more daily flights than DEN, but there are a lot of higher frequency markets from each of those. Anybody know if DEN is king in terms of number of nonstop markets served?

Topic: RE: Southwest Adding Four More Flights At DEN
Username: Amatiel
Posted 2010-01-21 08:06:04 and read 3739 times.

I think LAS and MDW still have more cities served.

Topic: RE: Southwest Adding Four More Flights At DEN
Username: Enilria
Posted 2010-01-21 08:10:24 and read 3711 times.



Quoting ScottB (Thread starter):
Announced as part of their 2009 earnings report. They will add one additional round-trip from DEN to BOI, FLL, HOU, and ONT effective June 13, 2010. This appears to put them at 133 peak daily departures from DEN in June. See the fifth paragraph of http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix....ight=

They announced 1 month ago that they would add 15 flights per day from Denver in August without saying the destinations. Assuming that is still true, that would take them to 148 which makes them #2 in Denver on seats, surpassing Frontier.

Topic: RE: Southwest Adding Four More Flights At DEN
Username: ScottB
Posted 2010-01-21 09:24:19 and read 3538 times.



Quoting Enilria (Reply 5):
They announced 1 month ago that they would add 15 flights per day from Denver in August without saying the destinations.

At first I thought that the flights bring added in June were part of the pre-announced 15 departure increase, but the wording of the press release from December said "15 additional flights to/from Denver beginning in August 2010." Quite amazing that DEN will be in the top five Southwest stations after fewer than five years

Topic: RE: Southwest Adding Four More Flights At DEN
Username: Enilria
Posted 2010-01-21 09:28:45 and read 3524 times.



Quoting ScottB (Reply 6):
At first I thought that the flights bring added in June were part of the pre-announced 15 departure increase, but the wording of the press release from December said "15 additional flights to/from Denver beginning in August 2010." Quite amazing that DEN will be in the top five Southwest stations after fewer than five years

They clearly have a goal in mind.  Wink

Topic: RE: Southwest Adding Four More Flights At DEN
Username: SANFan
Posted 2010-01-21 10:41:52 and read 3328 times.

Interesting that a new (additional) DEN-FLL frequency is being added just in time for summer; it will, however, bring the total number of flights to 2 so I guess it isn't all that strange. It does seem to indicate that they will add even more capacity in the market later in the year when Florida traffic should be increasing.

So it looks like all these new DEN flights -- almost 20 -- are being added this summer with only existing a/c (read: no new a/c deliveries?) WN continues to trim the fat from their schedules thru their route optimization program; quite impressive. (For example, in SAN for 2009, WN flight operations decreased 8% while their pax total was down only 2.5%. Fewer flights with higher LFs -- seems like a good plan to me....)

Of course there is the one exception to their great optimization plan -- that is the runaway, rampant, total overkill in Denver... Kind of ruins the whole "sensible, historical, logical WN business plan" image for me. Cut everywhere else in the system and pile it all into DEN!

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[Edited 2010-01-21 10:58:14]

Topic: RE: Southwest Adding Four More Flights At DEN
Username: SCCutler
Posted 2010-01-21 10:45:33 and read 3319 times.

Oh man.

Everyone knows Southwest is losing their ass on Denver operations. They must have a death wish.

(chuckle)

Topic: RE: Southwest Adding Four More Flights At DEN
Username: ThegreatRDU
Posted 2010-01-21 10:48:54 and read 3292 times.



Quoting SCCutler (Reply 9):
Oh man.

Everyone knows Southwest is losing their ass on Denver operations. They must have a death wish.

That's what I'm hearing but something concrete would be nice to see.....does anyone have some info on WN's performance out of DEN?

Topic: RE: Southwest Adding Four More Flights At DEN
Username: LoneStarMike
Posted 2010-01-21 12:18:16 and read 3141 times.



Quoting SANFan (Reply 8):
So it looks like all these new DEN flights -- almost 20 -- are being added this summer with only existing a/c (read: no new a/c deliveries?)

Bob, according to the thread below, WN is getting 10 new a/c this year, but I'm not sure of the actual delivery dates, nor do I know if they're going to be offset by other aircraft being retired.

WN 737 Deliveries In 2010? (by The777Man Jan 14 2010 in Civil Aviation)

LoneStarMike

Topic: RE: Southwest Adding Four More Flights At DEN
Username: SANFan
Posted 2010-01-21 20:37:41 and read 2840 times.



Quoting LoneStarMike (Reply 11):
Bob, according to the thread below, WN is getting 10 new a/c this year, but I'm not sure of the actual delivery dates, nor do I know if they're going to be offset by other aircraft being retired.

Thanx for that Mike. I really wasn't sure but I was going partly by this sentence that appeared in the PR from WN (the link is in Scott's OP):

Quote:
"While we will continue our disciplined route strategy, and currently do not have plans to grow capacity in 2010, we were still able to expand our cities served in 2009 without adding aircraft due to our successful route optimization efforts.

(I realize that this states that no a/c were added in 2009, not 2010, but still...)

BTW, the phrase "disciplined route strategy" certainly gives me a chuckle; would DEN be a major part of that "discipline"?!?!?

With all the "seasonal?" flights that have already been added this year -- most of them starting in May and announced last month -- I'm sure at least some new a/c are involved.

Anyway, I've got myself completely confused now and it doesn't really matter anyway. (I think I'll go contemplate WN's "disciplined route strategy" at Denver now.  Wink )

bb


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