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Topic: US Airways 762 With Problems At GIG?
Username: LipeGIG
Posted 2010-02-12 08:48:04 and read 9478 times.

Seems that one Boeing 767-200ER from US is having trouble to depart from GIG back to CLT since wednesday, having US at this time, cancelled the flight on Wednesday, tried again to depart yesterday, but had to return back to Rio.
Thursday flight departed on time (with the aircraft that come from CLT on Wednesday night)

There's also some news about this issue on Rio's newspapers

http://oglobo.globo.com/rio/mat/2010...a-desde-quarta-feira-915850748.asp

Any one have further info on this ?

Topic: RE: US Airways 762 With Problems At GIG?
Username: hardiwv
Posted 2010-02-12 08:59:53 and read 9424 times.

Quoting LipeGIG (Thread starter):
Any one have further info on this ?

Just read the below link on UOL -

http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/folha/cotidiano/ult95u693325.shtml

Rgs,

Topic: RE: US Airways 762 With Problems At GIG?
Username: PI731
Posted 2010-02-12 09:11:57 and read 9354 times.

Any english versions??

Topic: RE: US Airways 762 With Problems At GIG?
Username: LipeGIG
Posted 2010-02-12 10:53:53 and read 9057 times.

Quoting PI731 (Reply 2):
Any english versions??

No, not available but i will translate the first one shortly.

Now press inform that finally the B762 is boarding or take off at GIG

http://oglobo.globo.com/rio/mat/2010...antonio-carlos-jobim-915853033.asp

Rio - Finalmente, por volta das 16h30m, os 190 passageiros do voo UF 801 da US Airways conseguiram embarcar do Aeroporto Internacional do Rio de Janeiro/Galeão - Antonio Carlos Jobim. Um avião extra foi disponibilizado pela empresa para transportar os passageiros rumo a Charlotte, nos Estados Unidos, depois que a aeronave onde estavam, ter retornado ao Rio por duas vezes entre quarta e quinta-feira, devido a problemas técnicos.


Rio - Finally, around 16h30min (local time), the 190 passengers on US Airways flight US (news mistake) 801 got to board from Rio de Janeiro International Airport. An extra plane (?) has been provided by the airline to transport the passengers to CLT, in the United States, after the aircraft where they were, have returned to Rio twice between wednesday and thursday, due to technical problems.



Regards
Felipe

Topic: RE: US Airways 762 With Problems At GIG?
Username: PI731
Posted 2010-02-12 10:59:52 and read 9026 times.

Thanks! It will be interesting to find out what the actual problem was. And the fact that they could fix the first time time and still let them atempt the fight a seconf time is kinda scary.

Topic: RE: US Airways 762 With Problems At GIG?
Username: hardiwv
Posted 2010-02-12 11:12:19 and read 8968 times.

Quoting PI731 (Reply 4):
Thanks! It will be interesting to find out what the actual problem was

According to the link I provided above it states problem with the air con system of the airplane which failed twice.

Rgs,

Topic: RE: US Airways 762 With Problems At GIG?
Username: BHMDiversion
Posted 2010-02-12 12:42:14 and read 8728 times.

Go to avherald.com and you can read what happened.

Topic: RE: US Airways 762 With Problems At GIG?
Username: Flighty
Posted 2010-02-12 12:48:16 and read 8694 times.

Quoting hardiwv (Reply 5):
the air con system of the airplane which failed twice.

Rio is reportedly very hot these days.

Topic: RE: US Airways 762 With Problems At GIG?
Username: LipeGIG
Posted 2010-02-12 16:50:40 and read 8473 times.

Quoting Flighty (Reply 7):
Rio is reportedly very hot these days.

Yes, but the plane departs late night not during the day. It's suppose to be mild at night and the first problem took place during late night.

Topic: RE: US Airways 762 With Problems At GIG?
Username: AAEXP
Posted 2010-02-12 16:54:23 and read 8457 times.

The temperature on the ground is hardly relevant. Once the plane is in the air, the temperature goes well below aircon levels, There must be something more to this story.

Topic: RE: US Airways 762 With Problems At GIG?
Username: LipeGIG
Posted 2010-02-12 17:04:04 and read 8428 times.

Quoting AAEXP (Reply 9):
The temperature on the ground is hardly relevant. Once the plane is in the air, the temperature goes well below aircon levels, There must be something more to this story.

I agree, and with the engines working the cabin temperature goes down quickly in flight. If they return to the airport, need to be because of other issue, otherwise they would depart at 5 AM and all would be okay. Plus while preparing for board, airlines would use a portable unit to maintain cabin temperature lower for passengers.
Shall be a ' NO GO ' situation.

Topic: RE: US Airways 762 With Problems At GIG?
Username: hardiwv
Posted 2010-02-13 02:14:01 and read 7161 times.

This is the US aircraft which had problems in GIG -

http://www.agenciaoglobo.com.br/ui/fotosDia/media/PAI28955.JPG

Topic: RE: US Airways 762 With Problems At GIG?
Username: LHR380
Posted 2010-02-13 02:24:50 and read 7125 times.

http://www.avherald.com/h?article=4273471c&opt=0

All ways a good place to look if there is a plane with a problem

Topic: RE: US Airways 762 With Problems At GIG?
Username: AvroArrow
Posted 2010-02-13 06:36:40 and read 6290 times.

Maybe showing my ignorance here, but isn't air con run from the packs and the packs also are responsible for the pressurization right? Maybe turning back was the prudent thing to do if the crew thought that some other part of the system might quit too?

Topic: RE: US Airways 762 With Problems At GIG?
Username: EFCar98
Posted 2010-02-13 08:27:24 and read 5724 times.

Could this be the reason why the US flight from CLT-FRA was cancelled last night?

Topic: RE: US Airways 762 With Problems At GIG?
Username: Captaink
Posted 2010-02-13 08:57:06 and read 5559 times.

Quoting AAEXP (Reply 9):
The temperature on the ground is hardly relevant. Once the plane is in the air, the temperature goes well below aircon levels, There must be something more to this story.

Air conditioning doesn't just mean, cooling the air, it means conditioning the air. So if that isn't working we may be talking about a very hot airplane on the ground and a freezing on in the air. IMHO. And then there is the following.

Quoting AvroArrow (Reply 13):
Maybe showing my ignorance here, but isn't air con run from the packs and the packs also are responsible for the pressurization right? Maybe turning back was the prudent thing to do if the crew thought that some other part of the system might quit too?

Topic: RE: US Airways 762 With Problems At GIG?
Username: LipeGIG
Posted 2010-02-13 09:06:35 and read 5523 times.

Quoting EFCar98 (Reply 14):
Could this be the reason why the US flight from CLT-FRA was cancelled last night?

If the US fleet do not have a free frame as reserve plane, yes as CLT-GIG continued the other days as it's a very hot week to/from GIG because of the Carnaval.

Topic: RE: US Airways 762 With Problems At GIG?
Username: PHLapproach
Posted 2010-02-13 12:26:56 and read 5319 times.

A/C is 248. Two problems - Packs Malfunctioning (not sure exact reason). The other major one which is probably the reason for the return is that the FO ALT split.

Topic: RE: US Airways 762 With Problems At GIG?
Username: TheGMan
Posted 2010-02-13 14:24:37 and read 5231 times.

Quoting EFCar98 (Reply 14):
Could this be the reason why the US flight from CLT-FRA was cancelled last night?

Doubt it. That flight is a 333. It was probably because of the snow we had here last night.

Topic: RE: US Airways 762 With Problems At GIG?
Username: LipeGIG
Posted 2010-02-15 15:33:29 and read 4858 times.

Just pass at GIG and the 762 is still there. There's 2 B762 at GIG right now.

Topic: RE: US Airways 762 With Problems At GIG?
Username: C010T3
Posted 2010-02-15 18:34:47 and read 4716 times.

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 19):
Just pass at GIG and the 762 is still there. There's 2 B762 at GIG right now.

They are for sure not in that much of a hurry to repair the 762. Until IATA Summer begins, they have 762s to spare.

Topic: RE: US Airways 762 With Problems At GIG?
Username: wn676
Posted 2010-02-15 20:46:44 and read 4575 times.

Well, it looks like they fixed whatever was wrong. N248AY is showing departed from GIG and is tentatively scheduled to operate US800 tomorrow.

Topic: RE: US Airways 762 With Problems At GIG?
Username: C010T3
Posted 2010-02-21 11:49:52 and read 4177 times.

Quoting wn676 (Reply 21):
Well, it looks like they fixed whatever was wrong.

Well, I was at GIG yesterday and I saw two US 762 on the ground, meaning that the aircraft is completing 11 days grounded at GIG.

Topic: RE: US Airways 762 With Problems At GIG?
Username: wn676
Posted 2010-02-21 18:11:20 and read 3998 times.

Quoting C010T3 (Reply 22):


Incorrect. Flight 801 of the 19th cancelled which is why you saw two aircraft. Ship 248 is currently in PHL.

Topic: RE: US Airways 762 With Problems At GIG?
Username: C010T3
Posted 2010-02-21 18:43:48 and read 3944 times.

Quoting wn676 (Reply 23):
Flight 801 of the 19th cancelled which is why you saw two aircraft.

Really? Why was it cancelled?

Topic: RE: US Airways 762 With Problems At GIG?
Username: DZ09
Posted 2010-02-21 19:22:45 and read 3982 times.

I am not surprised at all. I took that flight a few weeks ago and the plane looked scary. I looked up the manufacturing tag and I was surprised to find out that the plane was made in 1987. It was an old run down plane and please don't tell me that it does not matter how old a plane is if properly maintained.

A week earlier I did IAH-GIG with continental on a 767-400 and what a difference that was.

Topic: RE: US Airways 762 With Problems At GIG?
Username: LipeGIG
Posted 2010-02-21 19:33:48 and read 3937 times.

Quoting wn676 (Reply 23):
Incorrect. Flight 801 of the 19th cancelled which is why you saw two aircraft. Ship 248 is currently in PHL.
Quoting DZ09 (Reply 25):
I am not surprised at all. I took that flight a few weeks ago and the plane looked scary. I looked up the manufacturing tag and I was surprised to find out that the plane was made in 1987. It was an old run down plane and please don't tell me that it does not matter how old a plane is if properly maintained.

Not a good way to get into a new market. Now that the deal with DL seems a little far, US should focus in introduce a better product to GIG. Incredible the Envoy is full almost every flight but they are trying hard not to have the economy on the same situation.

Topic: RE: US Airways 762 With Problems At GIG?
Username: thegman
Posted 2010-02-21 19:35:28 and read 3981 times.

Quoting DZ09 (Reply 25):
I am not surprised at all. I took that flight a few weeks ago and the plane looked scary.

What was scary about it?
I was on N255AY and N256AY earlier this year back and fourth CLT-HNL and found the plane in a very airworthy looking condition and the interior was not the worst.

I was also on N256AY once last year CLT-MCO.

Yeah, they're old, but they are newer than the C172 I rent for training. When deploying flaps I have to tap the gauge because the needle gets stuck sometimes. Lets not mention the high idle making it hard to land sometimes, or what about the baggage door opening in flight.

Topic: RE: US Airways 762 With Problems At GIG?
Username: Flighty
Posted 2010-02-21 19:37:32 and read 3977 times.

Quoting DZ09 (Reply 25):
I took that flight a few weeks ago and the plane looked scary. I looked up the manufacturing tag and I was surprised to find out that the plane was made in 1987. It was an old run down plane and please don't tell me that it does not matter how old a plane is if properly maintained.

Really? Is 1987 an old aircraft, in your view? Don't they have new interiors? It should be a supremely well maintained and safe bird, operating under FAA observation. I can't begin to think how such an aircraft would be scary. Would you explain?

Quoting DZ09 (Reply 25):
A week earlier I did IAH-GIG with continental on a 767-400 and what a difference that was.

Well, what was the difference? We know CO offers PTV in economy class. Is this all, or was there more substance to your view? So far it does not sound well founded...  

Topic: RE: US Airways 762 With Problems At GIG?
Username: thegman
Posted 2010-02-22 08:02:33 and read 3742 times.

Quoting Flighty (Reply 28):
Really? Is 1987 an old aircraft, in your view? Don't they have new interiors? It should be a supremely well maintained and safe bird, operating under FAA observation. I can't begin to think how such an aircraft would be scary. Would you explain?

New seat covers and projectors are replaced by large LCD tvs. Overhead bins are still those old design. Envoy class seats are all under 3 years old.

Topic: RE: US Airways 762 With Problems At GIG?
Username: DZ09
Posted 2010-02-22 08:30:58 and read 3647 times.

Yes an 1987 plane is an old aircraft for a 10 hour flight. What is this? a third world company? The interior was certainly not replaced in at least a decade. It was old, run down and most of all smelly. I flew in the envoy class and businessfirst with CO and you simply cannot compare the two, and if you do not believe me I would suggest you try them both. I am sure you can agree with me that having 5 seats instead of 6 per row would result in larger seats. Let's talk about the PTVs. It was amusing how the flight attendant was struggling to install the monitors (yes they're removable screen with a big note saying DO NOT REMOVE FROM PLANE). The whole thing was a joke for a few thousand $ ticket.

I must say that the flight attendants were great and I wish they worked for CO. I would try US on this route again if they changed equipment. Flying through CLT to go to RIO is more convenient for me.

Topic: RE: US Airways 762 With Problems At GIG?
Username: Airportugal310
Posted 2010-02-22 09:12:37 and read 3547 times.

Quoting Flighty (Reply 28):
Really? Is 1987 an old aircraft, in your view? Don't they have new interiors? It should be a supremely well maintained and safe bird, operating under FAA observation. I can't begin to think how such an aircraft would be scary. Would you explain?

Oh please...."FAA observation"? Then explain to us how it is that AA has been getting away with questionable maintenance practices, and will now be fined over it. Because the FAA was observing their aircraft too?

All I am saying is dont put all your trust in one agency, which has proved ineffective time and time again.

Topic: RE: US Airways 762 With Problems At GIG?
Username: deltaL1011man
Posted 2010-02-22 09:31:07 and read 3483 times.

Quoting DZ09 (Reply 30):
a third world company?

Jeesh, Yes thats what it is, Oh and pretty much all the other airlines in the world have planes that old so i guess we are just one big old, poor world.

Quoting DZ09 (Reply 30):
Yes an 1987 plane is an old aircraft for a 10 hour flight.

No its not, but if it is for you, you can always walk....errrr swim to HNL.

Quoting DZ09 (Reply 30):
The interior was certainly not replaced in at least a decade.

This says nothing about the aircraft, it just means US isn't putting any money into them. If US upgraded them you wouldn't know if it was 2 years old or 50.

Quoting DZ09 (Reply 30):
Let's talk about the PTVs.

Ok lets. Go get on AS, try and find a 737-800 flight, brand new airplane, but they don't have in-seat PTVs. Again this has nothing to do with the plane, US just doesn't want to spend the money on them.


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