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Topic: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: Airport
Posted 2010-03-06 19:04:39 and read 45267 times.

Hello all!

I have a weird fascination with the renderings of airliners that manufacturers (Boeing, Airbus, Embraer, Bombardier, etc.) make whenever an airline orders aircraft. You know, whenever XXX airline orders 20 XXXs how in the press release there is usually an artist's concept? I love those! Even moreso, I love looking back at renderings that never came to be, whether it was because of a change in color schemes, or if the airline went defunct, or the aircraft design changed. I'm compiling a photo album of them and would appreciate all the help I could get!  

(I only mention Boeing because they seem to have them more accessible than anyone else. I welcome all official manufacturer renderings, including Airbus, Embraer, Bombardier, Dornier, Fokker, etc. etc.)

Here's what I got so far...




AirTran -- 737-700 in the old colors



ATA -- 737-800 & 757-300 in the old colors



Alaska Airlines -- 747-100
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y75/Blackhawk144/AS747100.jpg


ANA -- 7E7



Boeing -- 717-300



Ethiopian Airlines -- 737-800 & 767-300 in the old colors



Hawaiian Air -- 717-200 in the old colors



Jet Airways -- 777-300 in the old colors



Midwest Express -- 717 in the old colors



Midwest Airlines -- 737-800 (is this a Boeing rendering?)
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y75/Blackhawk144/YX738.jpg


Northwest Airlines -- 787



Pakistan Airlines -- 777s in the old colors



Primaris Airlines -- 737-800 & 7E7 (787) -- went defunct



SAS -- 737-600 old colors



TWA -- A318



I'd love to build on this list if any of you have official manufacturer aircraft renderings of airliners that never were or never came to be. When Delta ordered the 737-800, were there any renderings of them in the widget livery? Where there any renderings of MD-90s in the Alaska Airlines livery when they ordered a whole bunch in the early 90s? Continental A340s? etc. etc.

Feel free to share what you can!  

Cheers!
Anthony/Airport

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: Daysleeper
Posted 2010-03-06 19:17:23 and read 45237 times.



That really is the most amazing looking aircraft... I wish it had turned out like that....


And the Alaska image is surprising as I would have thought they only existed after CAD, which would mean post 777.

I was reading a thread last week in which someone mentioned models of production frames but in the colours of airlines which never operated them - I persumed that would have been part of the sales pitch before renderings.

Interesting to see - Thanks.

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: Hamlet69
Posted 2010-03-06 19:39:20 and read 45108 times.

Airport,

Great topic! I'd love to see if A.netters can get a collection going. For my part, I followed the 777 from day 1, including collecting a large volume of news paper clippings, either from local papers, or from the now-defunct Boeing News. Looking thru, I have:

United (old colors)
Euralair
Cathay Pacific (old colors)
Japan Air System (old colors)
South African Airways (old colors)

I'll see what I can do about making scans of these. I'll warn you now, tho, all but the last one is B&W paper copy, so the quality will be poor, to say the least. . . 

Regards,

Hamlet69   

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: srbmod
Posted 2010-03-06 20:05:21 and read 44987 times.

Valujet MD-95:

By the time the first one was delivered, both the airline and the a/c had changed names.

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: Airport
Posted 2010-03-06 20:57:50 and read 44765 times.

Quoting Daysleeper (Reply 1):
I was reading a thread last week in which someone mentioned models of production frames but in the colours of airlines which never operated them - I persumed that would have been part of the sales pitch before renderings.

Ooh, I'm glad you mentioned that.

For those out there that have photos of official manufacturer models that never came to be, feel free to post those too.  
I believe I remember reading that there are several large scale models of Alaska MD-90s at the corporate offices that McDonnell Douglas gifted when they ordered them.

Quoting Hamlet69 (Reply 2):
Great topic! I'd love to see if A.netters can get a collection going. For my part, I followed the 777 from day 1, including collecting a large volume of news paper clippings, either from local papers, or from the now-defunct Boeing News. Looking thru, I have:

United (old colors)
Euralair
Cathay Pacific (old colors)
Japan Air System (old colors)
South African Airways (old colors)

I'll see what I can do about making scans of these. I'll warn you now, tho, all but the last one is B&W paper copy, so the quality will be poor, to say the least. . .

That would be most excellent!!!!

If you could scan those and post em here, regardless of the quality, that would be fantastic! I would really appreciate it.  
Quoting srbmod (Reply 3):
By the time the first one was delivered, both the airline and the a/c had changed names.

Awesome, thank you!  

Maybe I'll set up some kind of website to compile some of these, a la the old Old and Abandoned Terminals website. Nothing fancy, just a database where people can come and add them.

Here's another rendering of a TWA 717. This was realized, built, flown, and operated; but I thought it was a cool picture to look at, so I'm posting it for kicks.
http://www.md-80.net/TWA-Werbung-B717.jpg

Cheers!
Anthony/Airport

[Edited 2010-03-06 20:59:06]

[Edited 2010-03-06 20:59:41]

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: wedgetail737
Posted 2010-03-06 21:09:11 and read 44665 times.

Quoting Airport (Thread starter):
Hawaiian Air -- 717-200 in the old colors

HA should have a retro airplane of some sort. ARE YOU LISTENING HALFA????

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: chrisair
Posted 2010-03-06 21:17:48 and read 44640 times.

You guys are forgetting the MD-12:

http://en.academic.ru/pictures/enwiki/77/Md-12-2.png

Take a look at the bottom of this page on the MD-12. The A380 looks very, very similar.

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: YXwatcherMkE
Posted 2010-03-06 21:25:56 and read 44597 times.

I remember going to the old RC(Republic Airlines) HQ offices in MSP in the mid 1980's for an interview and seeing a renderings for a 747 and a DC-10 on a wall near the main doors. I remember wanting to take a picture of them and I was told that I could not do so. But I was told that RC would be flying the 747 in 18 months. Well NW took over RC before that came true.

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: Flashmeister
Posted 2010-03-06 22:17:44 and read 44429 times.

I always loved this rendering of a TWA Concorde... wish we'd have gotten to see it!

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: Flashmeister
Posted 2010-03-06 22:20:42 and read 44411 times.

Another one I came across, this one for a Lufthansa version of the ill-fated Fairchild Dornier 728JET...

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: FX1816
Posted 2010-03-06 22:43:34 and read 44321 times.

Those are some really cool pictures. I remember seeing the ATA ones in the old colors when they initially made that order too!!!

FX1816

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: etstar
Posted 2010-03-06 23:19:14 and read 44225 times.

Quoting Airport (Thread starter):
Ethiopian Airlines -- 737-800 & 767-300 in the old colors

That picture is one of Ethiopian's B737-700 and B767-300. While the latter was delivered and operated in the old livery, the former was not.

I recall seeing the first of 767s from that order at Everett while on a tour, which was a huge and pleasant surprise on a tour that was not even planned to happen.

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: N901WA
Posted 2010-03-07 00:09:26 and read 44125 times.

I found this one in a Trash Bin, after the Western Merger. Its a 737-300. I also had a L-1011 in a Indian Head Western Artist drawing, but I can seen to find it.

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: BlueSky1976
Posted 2010-03-07 03:41:29 and read 43728 times.

Thanks for posting those! I'm holding a very, VERY special place in my heart for the Mighty Triple Seven in the old Jet Airways livery:



It's a shame this never came to fruition...

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: danfearn77
Posted 2010-03-07 04:13:00 and read 43563 times.

Never heard of Primaris airlines before but what an amazing livery!

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: aviationbuff
Posted 2010-03-07 04:42:16 and read 43248 times.

How about some Airbus A350 - MK1

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/4624/mediaobjectimagelowresa.jpg

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/4624/mediaobjectimagelowresa.jpg

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/4624/mediaobjectimagelowresa.jpg

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/4624/mediaobjectimagelowresa.jpg

http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/4624/mediaobjectimagelowresa.jpg

http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/6890/mediaobjectimagelowrese.jpg

http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/4624/mediaobjectimagelowresa.jpg

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/4624/mediaobjectimagelowresa.jpg

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: aviationbuff
Posted 2010-03-07 04:51:58 and read 43113 times.

7E7 aka 787

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: Trijetsonly
Posted 2010-03-07 04:54:04 and read 43075 times.

Boeing Pelican
2005 concept, Range 10.000nm, top speed 300kt, first "flight" 2020

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: solnabo
Posted 2010-03-07 05:33:54 and read 42620 times.

Quoting Trijetsonly (Reply 17):
Boeing Pelican
2005 concept, Range 10.000nm, top speed 300kt, first "flight" 2020

OMG!!

That´s one fugly pelican.

//Mike      

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: danfearn77
Posted 2010-03-07 05:37:34 and read 42562 times.

Quoting solnabo (Reply 18):

  

Thank god it never got past the drawing stage!

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: YXwatcherMkE
Posted 2010-03-07 06:29:58 and read 42005 times.

Quoting Trijetsonly (Reply 17):
Boeing Pelican
2005 concept, Range 10.000nm, top speed 300kt, first "flight" 2020

What was the idea for this ugly duck?   

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: devilfish
Posted 2010-03-07 06:46:19 and read 41742 times.

One that never came to be.....

http://www.aerospaceweb.org/aircraft...sonic_cruiser/sonic_cruiser_04.jpg

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: srbmod
Posted 2010-03-07 06:54:47 and read 41613 times.

Quoting YXwatcherMkE (Reply 20):
What was the idea for this ugly duck?

Cargo. Think of it as the US version of the Russian/Soviet ekranoplane concepts.

While we're on the subject of cargo a/c:

Ayres LM-200 Loadmaster:

FedEx was to have been the launch customer, but Ayres went under in 2001.

FedEx A-380F:


UPS A-380F:

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: Stitch
Posted 2010-03-07 07:08:29 and read 41435 times.

Boeing 2707-200

Boeing 2707-200


Lockheed L-500
Lockheed L-500 Commercial Airliner Concept

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: norcal
Posted 2010-03-07 07:23:11 and read 41213 times.

Quoting YXwatcherMkE (Reply 20):
What was the idea for this ugly duck?

It was going to be a ground effect military transport. It would have skimmed the water at about 25-50 feet allowing it to take advantage of "ground effect," which would have significantly reduced induced drag. According to wikipedia it would have had a payload of 1,400 tons, which if true, is absolutely astonishing. That would have been like 6-7 times the payload of a C-5.

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: KingFriday013
Posted 2010-03-07 07:23:24 and read 42153 times.

I have a book with pictures of a MD-11X, 747-500/600, A3XX (with hairdryer engines!), and more. If I can find a scanner I'll try my best to scan it for you.

-J.

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: WestWing
Posted 2010-03-07 07:50:58 and read 42211 times.

Air India 777-200LR, 777-300ER, 787-8 in "Your Palace in the Sky" livery (the 737-800 for AI Express is correct).



Also, the following - not just renderings - but actual fully painted aircraft were repainted before delivery.


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Photo © Royal S King
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Photo © Royal S King

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: RoseFlyer
Posted 2010-03-07 08:31:52 and read 42426 times.

Quoting srbmod (Reply 3):
Valujet MD-95:

You can tell how much technology has changed from the mid 90s since that picture is horrendously distorted.

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: Jacobin777
Posted 2010-03-07 08:33:00 and read 42571 times.

Or how about this...

Aviation-Designs.Net:
Click here for bigger photo!
Design © Daniel Moore
Template © Peter ten Thije



and this...


Aviation-Designs.Net:
Click here for bigger photo!
Design © Ediney
Template © Ediney

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: WestWing
Posted 2010-03-07 08:40:10 and read 42208 times.

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 28):
Or how about this...

The OP is taking is about manufacturer renderings after an order was placed, not the wild imaginations of the contributors to MAP and similar sites. Qantas never ordered 777s and AFAIK, Boeing never released a rendering of a QF 777.

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: DfwRevolution
Posted 2010-03-07 08:48:16 and read 42334 times.

Airbus AE31X regional jet



Boeing 7J7



Boeing 767X "Humpback"



MD-94X



MD DC-XX

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: mayor
Posted 2010-03-07 08:48:35 and read 42244 times.

Quoting Stitch (Reply 23):

Or this (as long as we're taking this into fanciful renderings):

http://www.airlinebuzz.com/chickenworks/images/L2000SST_Delta.jpg

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: Braniff747SP
Posted 2010-03-07 08:49:15 and read 42270 times.

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/1241/b199.jpg

It's not a drawing, but PA did order Concordes, I believe 50 of them. Don't quote me on that, please.

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: tdscanuck
Posted 2010-03-07 08:57:30 and read 42138 times.

C-wing:



7J7:


Ring-wing:


I can't even attempt to explain this:


Supersonic BBJ:


Other Supersonic BBJ:


Boeing Clipper - 1000+ seats:



C-wing meets the BWB, aka "Klingon Battle Cruiser":


Tom.

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: Max777geek
Posted 2010-03-07 09:04:48 and read 41774 times.

Quoting DfwRevolution (Reply 30):
Boeing 767X "Humpback"

how can this fly ?

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: Rheinbote
Posted 2010-03-07 09:19:21 and read 41673 times.

Canard propfan, date?

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: Stitch
Posted 2010-03-07 09:32:41 and read 41301 times.

Quoting Rheinbote (Reply 35):
Canard propfan, date?

I believe that was the original Boeing 7J7 proposal. It would have been a widebody with 2+3+2 seating.

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: YXwatcherMkE
Posted 2010-03-07 09:56:52 and read 40905 times.

Quoting Stitch (Reply 36):
Quoting Rheinbote (Reply 35):
Canard propfan, date?

I believe that was the original Boeing 7J7 proposal. It would have been a widebody with 2+3+2 seating.

Any idea why this project died?

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: UnitedFA07
Posted 2010-03-07 09:56:55 and read 40927 times.

Quoting Braniff747SP (Reply 32):

I had read that UA had orders too, would have been cool to see.

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: AAairplane
Posted 2010-03-07 10:01:43 and read 40870 times.

Quoting aviationbuff (Reply 15):
How about some Airbus A350 - MK1

The original A350 was very nice looking, though it was much less futuristic looking than the current aircraft. I would not have been sad if the original airplane design were still around. I love the way it looks in the US Airways livery!

Cool forum idea!

AAairplane

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: TZTriStar500
Posted 2010-03-07 10:09:01 and read 40746 times.

Quoting Airport (Thread starter):
ATA -- 737-800 & 757-300 in the old colors
Quoting FX1816 (Reply 10):
I remember seeing the ATA ones in the old colors when they initially made that order too!!!

As a former TZ employee, I'm very familiar with this one. Since it was such a huge order and announcement for TZ, there where dozens of large posters made of this image which were framed and hung all over the corporate campus. Almost everyone from manager up had one and in fact, I had one in my office until the day we shut down, but did not take it with me however.

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: srbmod
Posted 2010-03-07 10:15:09 and read 40629 times.

Quoting Rheinbote (Reply 35):
Canard propfan, date?

Early to mid 1980s. Boeing canceled it in 1987.

Quoting Stitch (Reply 36):

I believe that was the original Boeing 7J7 proposal. It would have been a widebody with 2+3+2 seating.

I've seen mentions of it having 2+2+2 seating and even mentions of it being a single aisle 3+3.

Quoting YXwatcherMkE (Reply 37):
Any idea why this project died?

The price of oil dropped low enough to make the a/c it was to have replaced (727 and some 737 Classics) economical to still operate. Boeing opted instead to work on improvements to the 737 and 757. The propfan concept was also something that was hard to sell airlines on.

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: burnsie28
Posted 2010-03-07 10:38:04 and read 40307 times.

Quoting Airport (Thread starter):
Northwest Airlines -- 787

Thats a painful and sad one to see on the list  

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: AirbusA6
Posted 2010-03-07 11:19:31 and read 39683 times.


The BAC311, another one of those British might have beens...

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: Jacobin777
Posted 2010-03-07 11:24:02 and read 39593 times.

Quoting WestWing (Reply 29):
Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 28):
Or how about this...

The OP is taking is about manufacturer renderings after an order was placed, not the wild imaginations of the contributors to MAP and similar sites. Qantas never ordered 777s and AFAIK, Boeing never released a rendering of a QF 777.

Maybe you can care to explain what these were? Actual orders?      



Quoting Flashmeister (Reply 8):
I always loved this rendering of a TWA Concorde... wish we'd have gotten to see it!
Quoting Stitch (Reply 23):
Boeing 2707-200
Quoting mayor (Reply 31):

Or this (as long as we're taking this into fanciful renderings):

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: Stitch
Posted 2010-03-07 11:27:10 and read 39570 times.

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 44):
Maybe you can care to explain what these were? Actual orders?         

Well the Boeing 2707 did have a decent chunk of airline commitments per Wikipedia.

And AA's CEO stated he planned to buy the first hundred or so Sonic Cruisers.
 

[Edited 2010-03-07 11:27:54]

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: YXwatcherMkE
Posted 2010-03-07 11:31:30 and read 39491 times.

Quoting burnsie28 (Reply 42):
Quoting Airport (Thread starter):
Northwest Airlines -- 787

Thats a painful and sad one to see on the list

Not as painful it was to see when NW bought out Republic Airlines in 1986. I think the Management of NW saw the writing on the wall of RC (Boeing 747 and DC-10 renderings) in the lobby and hallways of RC's Head quarters and that scared the you know what out of them. I wish I could find a picture of the two a/c in RC colors. Is there any of the fans of dear old "Herman" out in A.net land that have a copy of the renderings that would be willing to post a picture of them?   

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: Airport
Posted 2010-03-07 11:35:53 and read 39384 times.

Well, I did intend for it to be only manufacturer renderings, simply because there's a bazillion different unofficial renderings of aircraft out there. And there's already a website for that -- Modified Airliner Photos.

But I do appreciate the contributions anyway! Let's try and keep it to official manufacturer drawings/renderings/models only from here on out.  

When USAir ordered the A320, did Airbus produce any mock-ups of it in the metallic livery?
Any official mock-ups or renderings of the 737-800 or 777-200 in the Delta widget livery?
Did Airbus produce any renderings of a Northwest A330 in the bowling shoe livery?

Cheers!
Anthony/Airport

*Still hoping someone out there has a photo of an Alaska Airlines MD-90  

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: Jambrain
Posted 2010-03-07 11:48:36 and read 39030 times.

How about any bizarre engine concepts, any out there from Boeing?

There must be a different perspective on the the engine cowl, how about a oval shaped lifting nacelle?

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: Crosscheck007
Posted 2010-03-07 11:49:27 and read 39192 times.

Went to V Australia instead:




Cheers,

007

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: Airport
Posted 2010-03-07 11:52:16 and read 39128 times.

Quoting Crosscheck007 (Reply 49):
Went to V Australia instead:

Good call! I had been looking for that one for a while now and forgot about it.  

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: n5014k
Posted 2010-03-07 11:57:20 and read 38865 times.

I can't put my hands on them, but I have three renderings from the days of the local service airlines:

Lake Central 737
Lake Central 727 (the only evidence I have that LC was looking at the 727)
Mohawk 727

I've seen photos of an Ozark 727 fully painted but not delivered, but they're pretty easy to find.

I have heard that at least one Pacific Air Lines (pre Hughes Airwest/Republic/Northwest/Delta) was painted before the merger, but I've never seen a photo of it.

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: tdscanuck
Posted 2010-03-07 12:41:00 and read 37982 times.

Quoting Max777geek (Reply 34):
Quoting DfwRevolution (Reply 30):
Boeing 767X "Humpback"

how can this fly ?

I'm not really following you...why couldn't it fly? The laws of aerodynamics don't change just because you move the hump aft.

Quoting Airport (Reply 47):
Well, I did intend for it to be only manufacturer renderings, simply because there's a bazillion different unofficial renderings of aircraft out there.

All the stuff I posted in reply 33 are manufacturer renderings...I forgot to include that with the pictures.

Tom.

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: 2707200X
Posted 2010-03-07 13:00:55 and read 37659 times.

Check out these concepts!

http://www.twitt.org/bldwing.htm

http://www.up-ship.com/eAPR/ev1n3.htm

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: VC10er
Posted 2010-03-07 16:03:28 and read 34940 times.

This may be the best thread ever!!!! All my liitle boy in me is hyperventaling! One fantasy I have always had is about when we will fly on non-fossil fuel flying machines ala a Star Trek shuttle craft? Any guesses? 2150? 2200?

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: Viscount724
Posted 2010-03-07 16:40:04 and read 34540 times.

Quoting n5014k (Reply 51):
I have heard that at least one Pacific Air Lines (pre Hughes Airwest/Republic/Northwest/Delta) was painted before the merger, but I've never seen a photo of it.

Pacific Air Lines took delivery of 3 727-100s in 1966-67.They were in Pacific livery until lthe 1968 merger with Bonanza and West Coast to form Air West. One of the Pacific 727s below.


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Photo © John F. Ciesla



From their July 20, 1966 timetable:



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Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: milesrich
Posted 2010-03-07 16:45:14 and read 34388 times.

Quoting N901WA (Reply 12):
I found this one in a Trash Bin, after the Western Merger. Its a 737-300.

Were all the 737-347's delivered in the bare fuselage scheme? I think I flew in 1987 on a 737-347 from LAX to LAS in the WA white livery with a Delta Sticker over the Western name.

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: Eagleboy
Posted 2010-03-07 16:47:32 and read 34347 times.

Quoting Max777geek (Reply 34):
Quoting DfwRevolution (Reply 30):
Boeing 767X "Humpback"

how can this fly

Thank God it didn't.......that is an ugly plane.

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: N901WA
Posted 2010-03-07 16:54:22 and read 34244 times.

Hi milesrich. Yea the 347's were all Delivered in the Bud Light scheme. I was lucky enough to be there when the first 347's came in from Boeing. Must have been a 200 you were on, I still crack up when I see a EG&G 737 out of LAS. Reminds me of the post merger WAL 737's.

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: devilfish
Posted 2010-03-07 18:05:52 and read 33419 times.

But this one remains my favorite.....

http://www.theairlineblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/b747-300_concept_with_three_engines.jpg
http://www.theairlineblog.com/wp-con...300_concept_with_three_engines.jpg

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: dtw9
Posted 2010-03-07 18:19:05 and read 33238 times.

Some more Doug's


Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: rleiro
Posted 2010-03-07 18:59:34 and read 32749 times.

Well, I have here some from my collection:



Aserca DC-9-32 in Barranquilla featuring the c/s of Aserca Peugeot Livery. Unfortunately, the contract was cancelled and the titles were removed. So, we got just a blue plane infamously nicknamed as The Flying Viagra or The Blue Toilet


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Also a postcard from a CV880M from AVENSA. In 1960, AVENSA ordered a CV800M and signed one option. In 1961, when VIASA took over this CV880, the option was exercised and an additional option was subscribed for a total of three airplanes.



Saludos,

Roberto.

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: VC10er
Posted 2010-03-07 19:10:13 and read 32571 times.

Quoting devilfish (Reply 59):

Ac3 engine 747! I had no idea!!!! How far did Boeing get with this type? Any bites from an airline?

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: Stitch
Posted 2010-03-07 19:27:43 and read 32480 times.

Quoting VC10er (Reply 62):
Ac3 engine 747! I had no idea!!!! How far did Boeing get with this type? Any bites from an airline?

It was designed to compete with the L-1011 and DC-10, but garnered insufficient interest to go forward.

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: Daysleeper
Posted 2010-03-07 20:21:07 and read 32312 times.

Quoting Airport (Reply 47):
Did Airbus produce any renderings of a Northwest A330 in the bowling shoe livery?

Now that would be cool to see. I have no idea why, but even after looking at 744's and DC9s in the Bowling Shoe livery I'm still unable to picture anything other than a DC10 in it LOL. Infact, if for whatever reason someone even mentions bowling to me... the first thing what comes to mind.. is a DC10  

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: devilfish
Posted 2010-03-07 20:26:20 and read 32271 times.

Quoting VC10er (Reply 62):
Ac3 engine 747! I had no idea!!!!

Neither had I until I saw it here on A.net and thought it was photoshopped. The accompanying caption explains why it was not pursued.....

http://www.airlinereporter.com/2009/...in-time-the-boeing-747-300-trijet/

It was also said that the hump interfered with the air intake for the #2 engine. However, this one didn't have the hump.....

http://www.flug-revue.rotor.com/FRHeft7X/FRHeft77/FRH7707/FR7707b1.JPG

And as Boeing taketh away an engine, so doth Lockheed Martin.....

http://www.eucomairlines.de/story/dash600.jpg

Quoting srbmod (Reply 22):
FedEx was to have been the launch customer, but Ayres went under in 2001.

Speaking of Ayres, they had the prototype for the L410 stretch - the L610G - ready, and had renamed it the Ayres 7000. But it went nowhere despite interest from Aeroflot.....

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The military utility demonstrator remains in static display.....

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More here.....

Airliners That Never Were (by StarGoldLHR Mar 17 2006 in Civil Aviation)#1

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: Jacobin777
Posted 2010-03-07 20:28:39 and read 32260 times.

Quoting Stitch (Reply 45):
Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 44):
Maybe you can care to explain what these were? Actual orders?

Well the Boeing 2707 did have a decent chunk of airline commitments per Wikipedia.

And AA's CEO stated he planned to buy the first hundred or so Sonic Cruisers.

True, but still no actual orders... 

....and you also know how close QF were for pulling the B77W trigger...

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: AZA330
Posted 2010-03-07 20:36:32 and read 32215 times.

On the Boeing website there is still a rendering of an Alitalia 747-400. Alitalia had apparently purchased 5 of these, but then converted the order into 777-200s.

http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/...release/photo_release_000316c.html

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: Transpac787
Posted 2010-03-07 20:52:56 and read 32196 times.

I'm surprised no one has mentioned the Lockheed L-2000 yet.


http://www.airlinebuzz.com/chickenworks/images/L2000SST_Braniff_FC_SSTs.jpg


http://www.airlinebuzz.com/chickenworks/images/L2000SST_TWAStarstream.jpg

Quoting tdscanuck (Reply 33):
I can't even attempt to explain this:

I believe that was a VERY early rendering for the XB-70 Valkyrie project and escort fighters - later becoming the F-108 that never got beyond a full-size mockup.

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: mayor
Posted 2010-03-07 21:00:33 and read 32115 times.

Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 68):
I'm surprised no one has mentioned the Lockheed L-2000 yet.

I did.....see reply #31.

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: Stitch
Posted 2010-03-07 21:16:17 and read 32141 times.

Ah, the original Boeing 777 concept, circa 1977:



I still have color stills of that model, the T-tail 757 concept and the 767 concept (both also from 1977) from my uncle when he worked for Boeing.

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: b2707sst
Posted 2010-03-07 21:38:46 and read 32045 times.

Quoting Stitch (Reply 45):

Well the Boeing 2707 did have a decent chunk of airline commitments per Wikipedia.

Yes it did, sigh...






Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: BMI727
Posted 2010-03-07 21:59:17 and read 31934 times.

Quoting b2707sst (Reply 71):
Yes it did, sigh...

Both the 2707 and Concorde made enough of a splash to give the 747 its hump.

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: N14AZ
Posted 2010-03-07 22:29:55 and read 31879 times.

At the beginning of the 90's, Aero Lloyd was planning to introduce the MD 11 to their fleet.

Source: http://www.md-80.net/ambitionen_von_aero_lloyd.htm

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: varigb707
Posted 2010-03-07 22:40:38 and read 31800 times.

http://i46.tinypic.com/2d8nol0.png

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: VC10er
Posted 2010-03-07 22:53:50 and read 31753 times.

Quoting devilfish (Reply 21):

Exactly why did the sonic cruiser bomb so fast in favor of the 7E7?
It seems as it would have been the first ac to not look like a 707/767/757/A330/777/787/A350. Was society just not ready? Could Boeing just not gurantee it would work? Where does an airline put it's identity?

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: BMI727
Posted 2010-03-07 23:03:29 and read 31713 times.

Quoting VC10er (Reply 75):
Exactly why did the sonic cruiser bomb so fast in favor of the 7E7?

Airlines and passengers aren't really willing to pay for speed. Efficiency was more attractive to the airlines.

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: BlueSky1976
Posted 2010-03-08 00:10:14 and read 31534 times.

Quoting Airport (Reply 47):
When USAir ordered the A320, did Airbus produce any mock-ups of it in the metallic livery?

Yes, they did. I remember seeing one in Aviation Week.

Quoting devilfish (Reply 65):

Speaking of Ayres, they had the prototype for the L410 stretch - the L610G - ready, and had renamed it the Ayres 7000. But it went nowhere despite interest from Aeroflot.....

Ayres never produced the prototype of L610 - Let did that well prior to their aquisition by Ayres. They actually made (I think) five examples before being bought out.

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: N776AU
Posted 2010-03-08 07:04:19 and read 31096 times.

Quoting Daysleeper (Reply 64):
Now that would be cool to see

On a -200

Aviation-Designs.Net:
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Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: Stitch
Posted 2010-03-08 07:33:30 and read 30940 times.

Quoting VC10er (Reply 75):
Exactly why did the sonic cruiser bomb so fast in favor of the 7E7?

11.09.2001 / 09.11.2001

That and the Tech Boom becoming the Tech *BOOM*.

All the people jetting across the country and between continents in First Class and Business Class to sign deals in the eight-to-eleven figure range stopped flying. So the "need for speed" which drove the market for the Sonic Cruiser dried up and airlines, no longer raking in maximum-revenue unrestricted fares, started to worry about their operating costs again.

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: EA772LR
Posted 2010-03-08 08:21:05 and read 30819 times.

This made it past the drawing board but never in service

Tu-334:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bc/%D0%9C%D0%90%D0%9A%D0%A1-2007-%D0%97%D0%92%D0%93-007.jpg


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Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: FlyCaledonian
Posted 2010-03-08 09:49:10 and read 30586 times.

From Kev's MD-11 site: -


Air Europe MD-11 complete with Rolls Royce Trent engines!



British Caledonian MD-11. Not taken up after the BA takeover and the first two went to AA.

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: 2707200X
Posted 2010-03-08 11:31:39 and read 30273 times.

A coke bottle airliner

http://oea.larc.nasa.gov/PAIS/Concept2Reality/graphics/fig037.jpg

An '80s Boeing SST

http://adg.stanford.edu/aa241/intro/images/BoeingSST.jpg

A switchblade SST

http://adg.stanford.edu/aa241/intro/images/OFW.JPG

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: Delta763
Posted 2010-03-08 16:58:59 and read 29804 times.

Quoting Stitch (Reply 23):

Lockheed L-500

Brilliant! I always thought there should have been a commercial version of the C-5. At least we know Lockheed considered it.

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: DocLightning
Posted 2010-03-08 17:30:08 and read 29714 times.

Quoting Stitch (Reply 79):
All the people jetting across the country and between continents in First Class and Business Class to sign deals in the eight-to-eleven figure range stopped flying. So the "need for speed" which drove the market for the Sonic Cruiser dried up and airlines, no longer raking in maximum-revenue unrestricted fares, started to worry about their operating costs again.

The other thing is that the sonic cruiser didn't have the dramatic speed required to justify the increased costs.

It's one thing if you're going to market a Mach 2-3 airliner that will slice the JFK-NRT flight to 6-8 hours. But if you're just making a 14-hour flight into a 12-hour flight, you're not impressing a lot of passengers.

Concorde proved that passengers *will* pay a hefty premium for dramatic speed (and novelty, I suppose), but lacking the dramatic product, they aren't going to be paying dramatic bucks.

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: Argonaut
Posted 2010-03-08 17:59:41 and read 29616 times.

Quoting solnabo (Reply 18):
That´s one fugly pelican.

How dare you?! It's gorgeous!

rj

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: devilfish
Posted 2010-03-08 20:00:41 and read 29419 times.

Going over to the business jet side, I think Aerion's SSBJ still hasn't made it past the model stage until now?.....

http://www.ameinfo.com/138508.html

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...ns-order-book-for-aerion-ssbj.html

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: PPVRA
Posted 2010-03-08 20:12:57 and read 29383 times.

Never saw service:

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: NC1844V
Posted 2010-03-08 20:19:06 and read 29316 times.

What a great thread...Its really neat to see what Boeing and some of the other company's were dreaming off back in the day.

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: Icebird757
Posted 2010-03-08 21:26:32 and read 29216 times.

Somewhere in my slide collection I have about 15 artist drawings of the MD-11 with airlines that never came to be. I also have a slide of the 777 in the white SAS colors with the rainbow stripes under the belly. I also own a 1:100 scales 757 in the SAS Viking scheme that was given to my grandfather from Boeing and a 1:100 scale MD-80 in the Viking scheme from McDonnell Douglas.

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: n5014k
Posted 2010-03-09 14:42:12 and read 28579 times.

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 55):
Pacific Air Lines took delivery of 3 727-100s in 1966-67.They were in Pacific livery until lthe 1968 merger with Bonanza and West Coast to form Air West. One of the Pacific 727s below.

I apologize...I guess I wasn't clear. I meant the 737. Pacific leased the 727's, I believe, while waiting for the 737's to be delivered.

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: beeweel15
Posted 2010-03-09 14:51:37 and read 28553 times.

Quoting Max777geek (Reply 34):

Quoting DfwRevolution (Reply 30):
Boeing 767X "Humpback"

how can this fly ?

The same way the 747 flies

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: 2H4
Posted 2010-03-09 14:52:36 and read 28563 times.



...and my favorite:



 

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: AirframeAS
Posted 2010-03-09 15:03:48 and read 28510 times.

Quoting Airport (Reply 47):
Still hoping someone out there has a photo of an Alaska Airlines MD-90

I remember the large, life like scale models that AS had in the Corporate Office, but they were not M90's. There were 734's and M80's.

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: luv2cattlecall
Posted 2010-03-09 17:05:02 and read 28329 times.

Quoting DfwRevolution (Reply 30):
Airbus AE31X regional jet


How does this differ from the A318? Looks rather similar to me.

Can someone located in the Netherlands check on Keesje? I have a feeling that he had sensory overload and fainted after seeing this thread!

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: 2707200X
Posted 2010-03-09 17:44:52 and read 28230 times.

Airbus Concepts

http://weburbanist.com/wp-content/up...oads/2009/04/concept_planes_11.jpg

Box and Circular Wing

http://weburbanist.com/wp-content/up...oads/2009/04/concept_planes_12.jpg

Very Vary Big

http://weburbanist.com/wp-content/up...oads/2009/04/concept_planes_13.jpg

A380-900 at 79.4 meters

http://avionique.free.fr/IMG/jpg/A380-900.jpg

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: VC10er
Posted 2010-03-09 20:31:35 and read 27973 times.

In another thread we discussed how unlikely a return of VARIG would be...but what if it had only V shaped long- haul aircraft? Maybe then!

Topic: RE: Boeing (etc.) Renderings That Never Came To Be
Username: Bureaucromancer
Posted 2010-03-09 20:38:22 and read 27942 times.

Ugh, the proportions of the A380-900 are indescribably better than the 800s.


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