While building sandcastles in the air today, I pondered upon something; Working out which country has not had a certain a/c registered to their country. I'm mainly focusing on Airbus and Boeing but feel free to add other companies from Embraer to CRJ but it will be a looooong list! As for upcoming aircraft such as Boeing 787 and Airbus A350 as well as the Airbus A380, consider them if any airline from that country has ordered it.

To start it off, my home country

Singapore
Boeing 717
Boeing 767

Other countries

Indonesia
Airbus A340
Airbus A380
Boeing 717
Boeing 757
Boeing 767 (I believe GA leased some but they were in British reg)

Australia
Airbus A300 (unsure)
Airbus A310 (unsure)
Airbus A340
Boeing 757

New Zealand
Boeing 717
Boeing 727
Airbus A330
Airbus A340

Malaysia
Boeing 717
Boeing 727
Boeing 757
Boeing 767

Thailand
Boeing 757

China (including Macau and Hong Kong)
Boeing 717
Boeing 727 (unsure)

Taiwan
Airbus A380
Boeing 717
Boeing 727
Boeing 767

USA
Airbus A340
Airbus A380

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In the UK, an MD-11 was assigned a registration (G-MDII for Air Europe) but it never made it from paper to plane.

Others include the Boeing 717, Airbus A380 and I think the Douglas DC-8

Quoting initious (Thread starter): Boeing 757

I believe that the RNZAF operates one or two 757's.

Quoting initious (Thread starter): Boeing 717

And Bangkok Air operates (if indeed they are still flying these birds) 717's.

And including the 787 and A350 is a little unfair, as they are not yet in service. Hell, the A350 still has a number of years left before it's first flight.

Quoting initious (Thread starter): Australia Airbus A300 (unsure)

TAA operated these, under Aussie registrations too

Quoting initious (Thread starter): China (including Macau and Hong Kong) Boeing 707 (unsure) Boeing 727 (unsure)

707 certainly was, CAAC had a large fleet, 1st western built plane they operated.
727 was operated in Taiwan, which shares the B- series with the others...

Quoting initious (Thread starter): USA Airbus A340

If you include temporary registrations I think the A340 has had a few N numbers assigned when Boeing took the SQ ones as trade-ins... though i dont know if the planes ever actually wore them.


Oh also you can add Concorde as a no for every country except the UK, France and USA.

Alright, thanks for the answers! Made some edits here and there and removed the Boeing 787 & Airbus A350. 

Quoting NorthStarDC4M (Reply 3): If you include temporary registrations I think the A340 has had a few N numbers assigned when Boeing took the SQ ones as trade-ins... though i dont know if the planes ever actually wore them.

Well that's a good one.. But I guess I shall just leave the A340s up there, though.  

Quoting NorthStarDC4M (Reply 3): Oh also you can add Concorde as a no for every country except the UK, France and USA.

That's why I wanted to focus on Airbus and Boeing, or every country up there (except USA) will have Concorde in it.

United Kingdom
IL-62   

As far as I know, those haven’t been registered in Icyland

Boeing:

717
777


Douglas:

DC-10 and MD-11


Airbus:

A318-A319-A320-A321
A330
A340
A380

Quoting initious (Thread starter): A/C That Never Got On A Country's Register

I think the thread title needs to be changed as it sounds misleading, It should say "A/C Types That Never Got On A Country's Register".

Quoting Doona (Reply 2): And including the 787 and A350 is a little unfair, as they are not yet in service.

I agree.   

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 7): I think the thread title needs to be changed as it sounds misleading, It should say "A/C Types That Never Got On A Country's Register".

   I agree too. Did not notice that at first. Probably a moderator could change the name? 

Ireland

DC 10

That is the only one obvious one I've found. Not bad for a small country and who knows, the Excel version of the Irish aircraft register I got from the IAA website does not mention the Boeing 747-100 or the Boeing 720, both of which where owned and operated by Aer Lingus on trans-Atlantic routes for many years and they definitely has Irish registrations. Also, EI had an MD-11 leased from World Airways for a year or two while they were waiting for A330's to arrive but as far as I'm aware, it kept its US registration.

Quoting aero145 (Reply 6): As far as I know, those haven’t been registered in Icyland . . . Douglas: DC-10 and MD-11

Huh, not sure. But Nicelandair did operate one DC-10 around 1980. They even had it grounded when all DC-10s world wide were grounded.

But I am not sure it was on the TF- register. At that time the KEF - CPH shuttle was operated by DC-8-63, and they were often on the N- register (USA) even when painted in FI scheme. Obviously they were leased planes.

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Quoting 1stfl94 (Reply 1): Others include the Boeing 717, Airbus A380 and I think the Douglas DC-8

The DC-8 was certified in the UK when a long-defunct UK cargo carrier, IAS Cargo Airlines, acquired a couple of DC-8-55Fs. One was ex-CP Air and the other ex-U.S. cargo/charter carrier Seaboard World Airlines. I believe quite a bit of work was needed to obtain UK certification. Those two aircraft below.

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Quoting NorthStarDC4M (Reply 3): Quoting initious (Thread starter): China (including Macau and Hong Kong) Boeing 707 (unsure) Boeing 727 (unsure) 707 certainly was, CAAC had a large fleet, 1st western built plane they operated.

No, the Vickers Viscount was the first western-built aircraft operated in China, a decade before their first 707s. The Viscount was followed by the Hawker-Siddeley Trident, the first of which were also in service before their first 707s. One of the Viscounts survives in a Chinese aviation museum.

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Quoting Doona (Reply 2): I believe that the RNZAF operates one or two 757's.

Yes, the RNZAF operates 2 RR powered 757's.

Quoting initious (Thread starter): USA Airbus A340 Airbus A380

I don't think the 747-300 was ever allowed to operate in the US.

Quoting United1 (Reply 14): I don't think the 747-300 was ever allowed to operate in the US.

This seems to indicate that it was ~

VIII - 747-300 (Approved March 1, 1983) Transport Aircraft
The 747-300 is basically a 747-200 series airplane with a stretched upper deck.
Engines: 4 Pratt and Whitney JT9D-7R4G2 or 4 General Electric CF6-50E2, CF6-80C2B1, or 4 Rolls Royce
RB211-524B2-19, RB211-524C2-19, or RB211-524D4-19, RB211-524D4-39.
See NOTE 5 regarding intermixing of engines.
Fuel: See NOTE 3.
Engine Limits: See data pertinent to all models.
Airspeed Limits: VMO/MMO 375/0.92 (KEAS) For other airspeed limits see the appropriate FAA Approved Airplane
Flight Manual.
C.G. Range: See the appropriate FAA Approved Airplane Flight Manual.
Maximum Weights: See the appropriate FAA Approved Airplane Flight Manual.
Maximum Baggage/Cargo: See the appropriate Weight and Balance Control and Loading Manual.
Fuel and Oil Capacity: See the appropriate Weight and Balance Control and Loading Manual.
FAA Approved Weight and Balance Control and Loading Manual: D6-13700
FAA Approved Airplane Flight Manuals: D6-13703, D6-33747, D6-35747

http://www.airweb.faa.gov/Regulatory...178625762d0058294d/$FILE/A20WE.pdf

Quoting United1 (Reply 14): I don't think the 747-300 was ever allowed to operate in the US.

What do you mean? The 747-300 is covered by the same FAA type certificate as all other 747s from the -100 through the -400 so it can certainly operate in the US. While no US carriers ordered the 743, Southern Air is currently operating a converted 743 freighter (originally delivered as a 743M combi to Varig and then operated by Atlas Air and a couple of other US cargo operators). They also recently acquired a 743 from JL, presumably also for freighter conversion. Both those aircraft below.

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Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 16): What do you mean? The 747-300 is covered by the same FAA type certificate as all other 747s from the -100 through the -400 so it can certainly operate in the US

From what I was told the FAA wasn't happy with the upper deck evacuation fo the 747-300 as originally designed and that was why there were not any on the N register. The info I got could be wrong...

Quoting United1 (Reply 17): From what I was told the FAA wasn't happy with the upper deck evacuation fo the 747-300 as originally designed and that was why there were not any on the N register.

If that was the case why would they add the B747-300 variant to the B747 Type Certificate, which they did?

And if they didn't very few countries would have allowed them on their register, most definitely Australia. The fact that QF got six on the Oz register and the aircraft was built in the USA, is a pretty good indication that the type had full FAA approval, otherwise CASA would not have approved it for operation by QF.

Gemuser

Quoting initious (Thread starter): Boeing 767

I believe both CI and BR have flown the 767. I'm sure I have flown on a BR 767-200 TPE-MNL way back when.

And here's some proof:

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Quoting brenintw (Reply 19): I believe both CI and BR have flown the 767. I'm sure I have flown on a BR 767-200 TPE-MNL way back when.

Wow, I never knew BR operated B767s. Thanks for the info!   

Quoting initious (Reply 20): Wow, I never knew BR operated B767s. Thanks for the info!

More information: BR had 4x -200ER and 4x -300ER. All of them have left the fleet now.

I will not forget my one, and I think only, flight in a BR 767. There were three of us flying TPE - MNL, J class. As the aircraft accelerated for take off, my friend who was sitting in front of me found himself lying flat, the back of his seat had simply given way! And there was nothing we could do!

I don't think the Convair 880 nor the 990 made it on to the UK register
Rgds Tony

Quoting initious (Thread starter): Taiwan Boeing 727

CI and the government both had 727s:

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Quoting tonymctigue (Reply 9): Ireland DC 10

Indeed, there were two DC-10s registred in Ireland, although none of them flew for an Irish airline. These were EI-DLA which spent a couple of years flying for COA with this registration and EI-BZD, a GPA-owned aircraft which was leased to Garuda. The Icelandair DC-10 never made it into the Icelandic register and retained its US-reg. Beside this, the only other western European states without DC-10s were Austria and Portugal (and all the dwarf states like Liechtenstein and Monaco).

Quoting tonymctigue (Reply 9): Ireland DC 10 That is the only one obvious one I've found. Not bad for a small country and who knows, the Excel version of the Irish aircraft register I got from the IAA website does not mention the Boeing 747-100 or the Boeing 720, both of which where owned and operated by Aer Lingus on trans-Atlantic routes for many years and they definitely has Irish registrations. Also, EI had an MD-11 leased from World Airways for a year or two while they were waiting for A330's to arrive but as far as I'm aware, it kept its US registration.

Due to the fact that many leasing companies are based in Ireland I think that it is impossible to find any modern western built airliner type that has not held an Irish registration.
Just examples of DC-10's registered as EI-

EI.DLA, EI-BZD


Brgds

SB03

Quoting DouglasDC10 (Reply 24): Indeed, there were two DC-10s registred in Ireland, although none of them flew for an Irish airline. These were EI-DLA which spent a couple of years flying for COA with this registration and EI-BZD, a GPA-owned aircraft which was leased to Garuda. The Icelandair DC-10 never made it into the Icelandic register and retained its US-reg. Beside this, the only other western European states without DC-10s were Austria and Portugal (and all the dwarf states like Liechtenstein and Monaco).

Interesting. I suppose there are alot of Irish registered aircraft flying for non-Irish airlines. One thing that jumps out when you look through the Irish aircraft register is the sheer amount of 737-800's - all belonging to Ryanair. Ireland must be a country with one of the highest number of registered 737-800 series aircraft. Were there ever any 727's registered in Ireland?

This is a bit of a pointless thread as particular with smaller countries, there are more aircraft types never on the register than actual ones.

Take Finland for example, which is not that small in aviation history terms.
Unless i have missed something, there have been none of the below registered in finland.

707
720
727
737 classic
737NG
747
767
777
A310
A318
L1011
Electra
Constellation
DC7
trident
Viscount
Bac 1-11
Hs748
F28
FK100
FK50
Dash 7
Dash 8
Dornier328

And i could keep going.....

The Dassault Mercure has been on even fewer registers than Concorde...

Lets see about Canada:

A300B2/4 yes
A300-600 yes
A310 yes current 1 op
A318 no
A319 yes current 1 op
A320 yes current 2* ops
A321 yes current 1 op
A330 yes current 2 ops
A340 yes
A380 not yet
707 yes all 4 types
720 yes
717 no
727 yes current 2 ops
737 original yes current 4 ops (more?)
737 classic yes current 2 ops
737 ng yes current 3 ops
747 yes
757 yes current for a few more days at least
767 yes current 2 ops
777 yes current 1 op
L1011 yes
L1011-500 yes
DC-8 yes all marques current?
DC-9 yes
DC-10 yes current 1 op
MD80 yes short lived
MD90 not yet
MD-11 no
F.28 yes current 1 op
F100 yes
F70 no
F50 no?
Saab 340 yes current 3? ops
Saab 2000 no... though CalmAir did put options on 2.
ATR42 yes current 2 ops?
ATR72 yes current ? Is CalmAir's in service yet?
Dash 7 yes current 4/5 ops?
Dash 8 yes all marques current 6 ops at least
CRJ yes current 2 ops
EMB-120 yes
ERJ yes short lived
E series yes current 1op
146/ARJ yes
D-328 yes (jet, private) 1 op
L-188 yes
L-100 Hercules yes Current 1 op
Vanguard yes
Viscount yes
HS748 yes Current 4 ops
ATP no?
Convair props yes current 2-3 ops
Convair 880/990 yes
and i could go on...
MD-11 is about the only unusually absent one... and Canadian DID consider leasing a few at one time, just didn't happen... and an Md-11F could easily show up on the register.

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TAA and Australian (same thing I think) operated the A300 in Australia.

I am pretty sure that the DC-10, MD11 and the L-1011 never wore the VH- though, shame...

Quoting initious (Thread starter): New Zealand Boeing 717 Boeing 727 Airbus A330 Airbus A340

Although never on the New Zealand Civil Register the 727 was operated by the RNZAF for a number of years ( subsequently replaced by the 757s mentioned by a couple of posters above )

Quoting tonymctigue (Reply 26): Interesting. I suppose there are alot of Irish registered aircraft flying for non-Irish airlines.

Almost all AZ 763s, several 772s, and many of their Airbus narrowbodies (mostly A321s) are registered in Ireland.

Quoting NorthStarDC4M (Reply 29): 707 yes all 4 types

If by "all 4 types" you are referring to the 707-120/220/320/420, I'm quite sure the -220 (only 5 of which were built, all for Braniff, and only 4 delivered as one crashed before delivery) were never on the Canadian register. And I can't recall any R-R Conway-powered -420s registered in Canada. Pacific Western had a couple of ex-QF -138Bs but those are technically a subset of the -120B, not a completely separate model series.

Quoting NorthStarDC4M (Reply 29): Convair 880/990 yes

Who operated the 880/990 on the Canadian register? The only operator I can think of was Nordair. They very briefly operated 3 leased 990s in 1968-69 but they kept their US registrations. One below.

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Quoting initious (Thread starter): Australia Airbus A300 (unsure) Airbus A310 (unsure) Airbus A340 Boeing 757

Of those the A340 is the only type which hasn't been registered on the VH register

TAA/Qantas had 5 A300B4's on the VH register from 1981-1998

Compass I had 3 A300-600 and 1 A310-300 on the VH register

Ansett Worldwide has also has numerous A300-600 aircraft and 3 757's on the VH register at various times however with the 757's not one has been operated in Australia.

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Quoting Doona (Reply 2): I believe that the RNZAF operates one or two 757's.

But these are on the RNZAF register not the civil ZK register



Speaking of the US and the 747-300 SQ operated several of their 747-300 on the US register


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Quoting vhqpa (Reply 33): Quoting Doona (Reply 2): I believe that the RNZAF operates one or two 757's. But these are on the RNZAF register not the civil ZK register

IIRC Freedom Air and Kiwi( can't remember the exact name - it was Ewan Wilsons operation out of HLZ ) each briefly had a 757 , although I don't know whether they were ever on the New Zealand register or stayed with their original registrations .


Edited to add : just did a quick check of the photo database and it looks as though the Freedom Air 757 kept its British registration . Does anyone know about the 757 which Kiwi leased in from Air 2000 ZK- or G- ?

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Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 32): Quoting NorthStarDC4M (Reply 29): 707 yes all 4 types If by "all 4 types" you are referring to the 707-120/220/320/420, I'm quite sure the -220 (only 5 of which were built, all for Braniff, and only 4 delivered as one crashed before delivery) were never on the Canadian register. And I can't recall any R-R Conway-powered -420s registered in Canada. Pacific Western had a couple of ex-QF -138Bs but those are technically a subset of the -120B, not a completely separate model series.

Called not proofreading sorry... i should of left the all out, there were 4 subtypes on the Canadian registry: 120B(138B), 320, 320B, 320C.

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 32): Who operated the 880/990 on the Canadian register? The only operator I can think of was Nordair. They very briefly operated 3 leased 990s in 1968-69 but they kept their US registrations. One below.

Canadair had one registered in Canada for about 6 months, 880... was to be the demo for the CL-88 (a RR powered 880 for TCA)...

Quoting vhqpa (Reply 33): Speaking of the US and the 747-300 SQ operated several of their 747-300 on the US register

This has made me confused. Why is it in the US register when operated by SQ?

For the Bahamas...

... has there been a single Airbus on the C6 register?

And for Boeing... anything besides UP's B732s?

I think Germany has had almost every A/C type in its register. For a long time the 777 was not there but that changed with Aero Logic. Not so sure if the 717 was ever registered in Germany.

After the reunification even a lot of russian planes were briefly D- registered, back in the 70s a West-German airline had Yak 40s in its fleet.

Quoting initious (Reply 36): Why is it in the US register when operated by SQ?

Could be an operating lease , could be a tax reason , could be due to different depreciation rules could be for some completely different reason . Someone at SQ will know , but whether they will share that information is another matter .

Quoting tonymctigue (Reply 26): Were there ever any 727's registered in Ireland?

Yes, several, mostly freighters with Hunting Cargo and TNT. Club Air had some passenger -100s and a -200 in the 1980s. You wil find photos on this site's photo database. There was also a Western Airlines B722 with an Irish registration, though this never actually visited Ireland.

Quoting irish251 (Reply 40): Yes, several, mostly freighters with Hunting Cargo and TNT.

Of course, TNT, I had forgotten completely about them. Has there ever been any L1011's on the Irish aircraft register?

Quoting tonymctigue (Reply 41): Has there ever been any L1011's on the Irish aircraft register?

Yeah there's been a few:

EI-TBG
EI-CNN
EI-BTN

I think Aer Turas operated one in the early nineties.

Brgds
SB03

In the US... Saab 2000 as Part 121. There are a hand full flying Part 91

Quoting initious (Reply 36): Quoting vhqpa (Reply 33): Speaking of the US and the 747-300 SQ operated several of their 747-300 on the US register This has made me confused. Why is it in the US register when operated by SQ?

Quoting kiwiandrew (Reply 39): Quoting initious (Reply 36): Why is it in the US register when operated by SQ? Could be an operating lease , could be a tax reason , could be due to different depreciation rules could be for some completely different reason . Someone at SQ will know , but whether they will share that information is another matter .

At least one KL 747-300 was also operated with US registration for its first 8 years with KL. Probably a requirement of leasing company ILFC that owned the aircraft. It was later re-registered in the Netherlands.

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Two Swissair 747-300s were also US-registered for their first 9 years, then re-registered in Switzerland.

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