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Topic: VX Delays MCO Due To Aircraft Delivery
Username: BigGSFO
Posted 2010-05-05 10:57:33 and read 3895 times.

Virgin America postpones Orlando until October due to an unexpected delay in aircraft delivery. Isn't October a better time to start Florida services anyway?

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-relea...f-service-to-orlando-92881169.html

Topic: RE: VX Delays MCO Due To Aircraft Delivery
Username: FX1816
Posted 2010-05-05 11:00:52 and read 3870 times.

I don't know, look at all of the Summer month's, when kids are off from school, that they will miss. Lots of people go to Disney World and such.

FX1816

Topic: RE: VX Delays MCO Due To Aircraft Delivery
Username: ikramerica
Posted 2010-05-05 11:04:57 and read 3829 times.

EDITORS NOTE: Virgin America is a U.S. controlled and operated airline. Sir Richard Branson's Virgin Group is a minority share investor in Virgin America.

Who's paying the editor to "note" that?

Topic: RE: VX Delays MCO Due To Aircraft Delivery
Username: dbo861
Posted 2010-05-05 11:10:36 and read 3767 times.

Quoting FX1816 (Reply 1):
don't know, look at all of the Summer month's, when kids are off from school, that they will miss. Lots of people go to Disney World and such.

The flight wasn't supposed to start until August 19..they'd only be missing out on maybe 2 weeks of summer vacation time. Most family vacations take place earlier in the summer. This is a brand new route that would have required building a passenger base during the September/October downturn. This way, it'll be up and running in time for the Thanksgiving/December holiday travel season..as well as during winter upswing for the Florida market. I see this working out better for VX than beginning in August.

Topic: RE: VX Delays MCO Due To Aircraft Delivery
Username: SANFan
Posted 2010-05-05 12:32:51 and read 3490 times.

Reading the article, it says:

Quote:
Virgin America will postpone its start of service to MCO until at least October 2010. In the coming weeks, the airline will release a new MCO start date in the fourth quarter of 2010...
Quote:
...we still intend to bring our low-fare, award-winning service to Orlando before the end of this year.

Sounds like October is a best-case and rather iffy start date... It also sounds to me as though there has possibly been some re-thinking of new-destination priorities (read: perhaps very poor early booking numbers for MCO?)

They go on to say:
Quote:
Virgin America is still poised for major growth and expects to take delivery of six additional aircraft in 2010... In addition to Orlando and Toronto, Virgin America intends to launch at least three more new destinations in 2010.

Seems like with the a/c delivery schedule in a bit of a twist -- I would love to hear where this "delivery delay" is actually occuring -- they still seem sure about getting 6 additional a/c this year. And they are still planning on "at least" 3 more new destinations this year? Very generous predictions considering an August start-up is now October, or later, and it's May already, etc. ...

As always with VX, I'll believe it when a new flight actually operates for the first time!

bb

Topic: RE: VX Delays MCO Due To Aircraft Delivery
Username: n7371f
Posted 2010-05-05 14:30:18 and read 3195 times.

Anyone know what the delay is specifically attributed to? I haven't read a peep about Airbus having delivery issues with the 320's. Perhaps this specific aircraft has an issue (damaged)? Then again, it's not unheard of for airlines to blame aircraft deliveries for masking weak initial bookings.

Topic: RE: VX Delays MCO Due To Aircraft Delivery
Username: as739x
Posted 2010-05-05 15:21:29 and read 3091 times.

As SANfan said, according to the VX internal website as well that their is no date for the start and it will be announced in the coming weeks.

Topic: RE: VX Delays MCO Due To Aircraft Delivery
Username: par13del
Posted 2010-05-05 16:07:57 and read 2932 times.

Quoting n7371f (Reply 5):
Anyone know what the delay is specifically attributed to?

Good question, the first thought that came to my mind was the faulty seat fiasco with the company in Japan, now I have to check to see if narrow body seats were involved.

Topic: RE: VX Delays MCO Due To Aircraft Delivery
Username: surfandsnow
Posted 2010-05-05 16:36:24 and read 2849 times.

Quoting SANFan (Reply 4):
It also sounds to me as though there has possibly been some re-thinking of new-destination priorities (read: perhaps very poor early booking numbers for MCO?)

I hope VX isn't getting cold feet about starting MCO, but let's face it, I'm sure it's probably looking pretty pathetic up against YYZ. I've talked to more than a few Canadians who know all about their new routes already, and those fares aren't dirt cheap. I bet YVR is looking very good to VX right now...

Topic: RE: VX Delays MCO Due To Aircraft Delivery
Username: SANFan
Posted 2010-05-05 16:59:58 and read 2784 times.

Quoting surfandsnow (Reply 8):
I hope VX isn't getting cold feet about starting MCO, but let's face it, I'm sure it's probably looking pretty pathetic up against YYZ. I've talked to more than a few Canadians who know all about their new routes already, and those fares aren't dirt cheap. I bet YVR is looking very good to VX right now...

Of course with a "normal" airline, you'd think LA/SF-YYZ, with only 1 n/s competitor, would look better than YVR (last time I checked, AS, AC, WS and UA were scheduled to fly 11x daily this summer from LAX), but then this IS Virgin America we're talking about here so you're probably right!

You really think YYZ is looking that good, 'surf'n'? With those rotten times they've scheduled, I didn't figure those routes would be setting early-booking records either... (Especially when you consider the short lead-time from the announcement to the inaugural flights and the competitive moves by AC in several CA-YYZ markets.)

bb

Topic: RE: VX Delays MCO Due To Aircraft Delivery
Username: surfandsnow
Posted 2010-05-05 19:16:55 and read 2543 times.

Quoting SANFan (Reply 9):
you'd think LA/SF-YYZ, with only 1 n/s competitor,

Actually, both AC and UA fly the SFO-YYZ route, while AA and AC both fly the LAX-YYZ route. Virgin puts AA and UA to shame and is not afraid to compete against them.

Quoting SANFan (Reply 9):
would look better than YVR (last time I checked, AS, AC, WS and UA were scheduled to fly 11x daily this summer from LAX), but then this IS Virgin America we're talking about here so you're probably right!

There's a reason why there are so many flights, though! Tons and tons of business and wealthy leisure traffic between the two cities. UA flies crappy RJs and AC is down to all E-jets - Virgin would probably be a very popular alternative to the status quo.

Quoting SANFan (Reply 9):
You really think YYZ is looking that good, 'surf'n'?

Well, given how many people seem to know about it, and how the $250+ one-way fares are quite a bit higher than those cheap domestic transcon fares, I'd say so.

Topic: RE: VX Delays MCO Due To Aircraft Delivery
Username: PlanesNTrains
Posted 2010-05-05 21:23:19 and read 2357 times.

Hmm... I didn't see that it ever mentioned "delivered late from the factory", so perhaps it's a leased aircraft? I don't know why that would matter, but maybe it makes a difference.

Quoting ikramerica (Reply 2):
EDITORS NOTE: Virgin America is a U.S. controlled and operated airline. Sir Richard Branson's Virgin Group is a minority share investor in Virgin America.

Who's paying the editor to "note" that?

"Elevate"?

-Dave

Topic: RE: VX Delays MCO Due To Aircraft Delivery
Username: SANFan
Posted 2010-05-05 21:29:25 and read 2330 times.

Quoting surfandsnow (Reply 10):
Actually, both AC and UA fly the SFO-YYZ route, while AA and AC both fly the LAX-YYZ route

Thanks for the correction, surf'n. I see now that the other American cx fly about 1x daily r/t in each market.

bb


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