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Topic: Delhi T3 Opens With Pomp And Show
Username: shanxz
Posted 2010-07-03 03:09:05 and read 7590 times.

DEL T3 was inaugurated today by the Indian PM. It's an integrated terminal, which will allow seamless domestic-international transfers. And AI will be the first to benefit. Do you think it has the potential to be a leading hub in South Asia?

The new terminal is the sixth largest in the world after those at Dubai, Beijing, Singapore, Bangkok and Mexico City, the promoters said.

It is spread over 5.4 million square feet to give an experience of a city within, officials said. The swank new terminal can cater to 34 million passengers annually. The current international terminal can handle around 10 million passengers.

It has 78 aero-bridges, 168 check-in counters, 92 automatic walkways and five-level baggage screening system with a capacity to handle 12,800 bags per hour.

The energy efficient and environmentally friendly terminal has the latest IT system to meet the passenger needs.

It has an eight-lane approach road from the city, a high speed metro rail link to the city centre Connaught Place and a multi-level car parking with capacity for 4,300 cars.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/C...Terminal-3/articleshow/6123333.cms

Topic: RE: Delhi T3 Opens With Pomp And Show
Username: Nimish
Posted 2010-07-03 04:59:22 and read 7441 times.

Congratulations to all Delhi residents on their spanking new terminal. I hope this results in the formation of the first true hub in the Indian context.

Topic: RE: Delhi T3 Opens With Pomp And Show
Username: Neverest
Posted 2010-07-03 08:10:15 and read 7221 times.

Sixth largest? What about Terminal 5 at LHR and ICN ?

Topic: RE: Delhi T3 Opens With Pomp And Show
Username: comorin
Posted 2010-07-03 08:18:38 and read 7200 times.

Congratulations! As Emperor Bahadur Shah Zafar would say, Delhi Rules!!   

I do hope that hubbing will bring open Delhi to more visitors. It's a magical city, if you close your eyes and imagine the past. Ignore the new buildings, Gurgaon and all that, and transport yourself to antiquity. It's a city of rose gardens and chrysanthemums, of the Qutab Minar, Red Fort and Surajkund. Home of Urdu, Sufi mysticism and high culture, visit Humayuns' Tomb in Nizamuddin and Lodi Gardens.

As for T3, I wish it's architecture reflected the setting: Lutyens managed to blend in Indian influences beautifully when he built New Delhi. I would like to have seen whispers of that past reflected in its design.

Topic: RE: Delhi T3 Opens With Pomp And Show
Username: tharanga
Posted 2010-07-03 17:46:06 and read 6066 times.

comorin, there is plenty of Indian influence on the inside, down to the last detail, down to the carpet.

Sadly, this being India, there is uncertainty over power supply; it may be a little tenuous these first days.

as for its prospects as a hub.. we'll see. Competing with the Gulf hubs will be tough. much Indian traffic to the Gulf, Europe and US already is funneled through there, and those Gulf hubs have great connections to secondary indian cities. for non-INdia traffic, people will have to want to travel Jet and Kingfisher instead of Emirates for some reason.

[Edited 2010-07-03 17:46:58]

[Edited 2010-07-03 17:47:09]

Topic: RE: Delhi T3 Opens With Pomp And Show
Username: comorin
Posted 2010-07-03 20:23:45 and read 5695 times.

Quoting tharanga (Reply 4):
comorin, there is plenty of Indian influence on the inside, down to the last detail, down to the carpet.

Sadly, this being India, there is uncertainty over power supply; it may be a little tenuous these first days.

Thanks, Tharanga,   Looking forward to being there next month. Hope I don't miss the langda season...

The motto for the new airport should be "Ab Dilli Door Nahin", right?

I heard about the power cuts in Gurgaon - hope they don't affect T3 - do they have a dedicated power facility like JFK?

Final question: what about the fog in winter? Does DEL have the CATxx installation necessary to deal with it?

Topic: RE: Delhi T3 Opens With Pomp And Show
Username: ojas
Posted 2010-07-04 01:12:28 and read 4932 times.

Quoting tharanga (Reply 4):
Competing with the Gulf hubs will be tough.

Infrastructure was the major constraint and with T3, that will no longer be a hurdle. Connectivity will improve and all major destinations in the world will be a stop away from any city in India.

Quoting tharanga (Reply 4):
for non-INdia traffic, people will have to want to travel Jet and Kingfisher instead of Emirates for some reason.

And that reason is Kingfisher ==> One world & Air India ==> Star Alliance. Pretty strong enough to dump the gulf carriers.

Quoting tharanga (Reply 4):
much Indian traffic to the Gulf, Europe and US already is funneled through there, and those Gulf hubs have great connections to secondary indian cities.

With T3, many of the major destinations that EK/EY/QR offer in the US, will be a one stop via DEL as well.

Topic: RE: Delhi T3 Opens With Pomp And Show
Username: gr8circle
Posted 2010-07-04 06:45:24 and read 4511 times.

Quoting tharanga (Reply 4):
people will have to want to travel Jet and Kingfisher instead of Emirates for some reason.

I would say very good reasons exist....while the fascination with EK has it's own reasons, 9W and IT offer a genuinely good product..and if they can provide seamless connections to the rest of India, they're a sure bet....they just need to operate more non-stops to N.America now....


Maybe I've missed out on the news, but can someone tell me what happens now to the old domestic and int'l terminals...?

Topic: RE: Delhi T3 Opens With Pomp And Show
Username: tharanga
Posted 2010-07-04 06:56:49 and read 4482 times.

Quoting ojas (Reply 6):
And that reason is Kingfisher ==> One world & Air India ==> Star Alliance. Pretty strong enough to dump the gulf carriers.

That is a major factor, though I'm not counting on AI to Star soon, or ever.

I think my point is that the Indian carriers have some distance to catch up. But with good strategies, they can. After all, Emirates didn't even exist not long ago, and look at them. But good management is going to be vital.

Quoting ojas (Reply 6):

With T3, many of the major destinations that EK/EY/QR offer in the US, will be a one stop via DEL as well.

It will have to be easy to pass customs and immigrations, and then put the bags for the next flight. This is a must - it must be fast and easy.

Topic: RE: Delhi T3 Opens With Pomp And Show
Username: ojas
Posted 2010-07-04 07:14:17 and read 4449 times.

Quoting tharanga (Reply 8):
It will have to be easy to pass customs and immigrations, and then put the bags for the next flight. This is a must - it must be fast and easy.

For destinations like HYD, BLR, MAA, CCU, ATQ .... there are international connectors already in place. so transferring in DEL is as good as transferring in DXB, DOH, SIN as the immigrations etc will be completed at the end airport. So you are already head on with the major target places where foreign carriers are present.

If you look at HYD, BLR airports as samples you will see how dome - int'l and v.v transfers are simplified.

Topic: RE: Delhi T3 Opens With Pomp And Show
Username: tharanga
Posted 2010-07-04 07:39:29 and read 4415 times.

ojas, I did not realise this. Thank you.

Topic: RE: Delhi T3 Opens With Pomp And Show
Username: comorin
Posted 2010-07-04 07:46:25 and read 4402 times.

If EK/EY want to respond, then they should try to get a pre-clearance facility in DXB - if that is at all possible.

Topic: RE: Delhi T3 Opens With Pomp And Show
Username: huaiwei
Posted 2010-07-04 11:41:01 and read 4232 times.

Quoting shanxz (Thread starter):
The new terminal is the sixth largest in the world after those at Dubai, Beijing, Singapore, Bangkok and Mexico City, the promoters said.

SIN's Terminal 3 is 380,000 metres sq. Is that really amongst the top six?

Quoting Neverest (Reply 2):
Sixth largest? What about Terminal 5 at LHR and ICN ?

Yes I would think ICN (at 496,000 metres sq) should be there. Also missing are HKIA T1 (570,000 sqm), Madrid T4 (470,000 sqm) and Barcelona T1 (544,066 sqm)

The full list probably looks something like this:

Dubai T3 (over 1,500,000 sqm)
Beijing T3 (986,000 sqm)
Delhi T3 (570,000 sqm)
HKIA T1 (570,000 sqm)
Bangkok (563,000 sqm)
Mexico City T1 (548,000 sqm)
Barcelona T1 (544,066 sqm)
Dubai T1 (515,000 sqm)
Seoul (496,000 sqm)
Madrid T4 (470,000 sqm)
Toronto T1 (464,000 sqm)
Tokyo Narita T1 (449,600 sqm)
Singapore T3 (380,000 sqm)

Some Brits may go gaga over T5, but it is not really that large. It's total area is 353,020 sqm, and that's including Concourse B, a satellite building which is not included in the calculations to rank the largest single airport terminal buildings as the list above shows.

[Edited 2010-07-04 11:41:41]

Topic: RE: Delhi T3 Opens With Pomp And Show
Username: cslusarc
Posted 2010-07-04 14:52:04 and read 4068 times.

Quoting comorin (Reply 11):
If EK/EY want to respond, then they should try to get a pre-clearance facility in DXB - if that is at all possible.

IMHO, US CBP should set a goal to double the number of international arrivals who go through Pre-Clearance at their foreign gateway.

Topic: RE: Delhi T3 Opens With Pomp And Show
Username: WROORD
Posted 2010-07-04 17:05:59 and read 3944 times.

Looks very modern and with lots of space. That of course will be determined once pax are let in. Congratulations!

Topic: RE: Delhi T3 Opens With Pomp And Show
Username: Cricket
Posted 2010-07-05 03:04:44 and read 3676 times.

Quoting comorin (Reply 5):
I heard about the power cuts in Gurgaon - hope they don't affect T3 - do they have a dedicated power facility like JFK?

The airport is inside Delhi's borders so power is supplied by the Delhi Govt. There have been delays in laying the new 50MW powerline to the airport but it should be complete by the time the terminal is functional.

Topic: RE: Delhi T3 Opens With Pomp And Show
Username: WROORD
Posted 2010-07-06 17:53:57 and read 3172 times.

Polish daily Rzeczpospolita has an article about T3 in Dehli, here are some pics:

http://www.rp.pl/galeria/19470,1,503885.html

Topic: RE: Delhi T3 Opens With Pomp And Show
Username: AirIndia
Posted 2010-07-06 20:26:11 and read 3081 times.

Theres been a delay

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/c...ets-longer/articleshow/6136667.cms

Topic: RE: Delhi T3 Opens With Pomp And Show
Username: tharanga
Posted 2010-07-07 06:39:52 and read 2885 times.

Quoting AirIndia (Reply 17):
Theres been a delay

That's fine. No need to rush, and cause an embarrassment and inconvenience if key components are not ready.


Also that article is saying the flight is coming from Washington, but I did not think AI was serving IAD anymore. I am confused.

[Edited 2010-07-07 07:15:16]


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