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Topic: UA Flight Benefits & And A Little Contract Talk
Username: FlyASAGuy2005
Posted 2010-08-07 11:09:30 and read 3826 times.

First question. What are UAs flight benefits like? At CO, without going into great detail, employees under 10 years pays a fee for each way of travel and the same for their eligible dependents. Also, buddy passes are fee based as well. 5 times out of 10, it's cheaper to just buy a ticket than to try and use a buddy pass.

Second question. CO's CSAs (ramp) recently voted in the Teamsters which they are still have no real representation yet with UA represented by the IAM. Any thoughts on which will survive?

Topic: RE: UA Flight Benefits & And A Little Contract Talk
Username: chase
Posted 2010-08-07 11:23:23 and read 3771 times.

Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Thread starter):
employees under 10 years

CO is hiring children now?  

But seriously...my father worked for UA until about 5 years ago, so my info is a bit dated. Family members could fly standby free. Kids had to be under something like 22 or 23 or so...the cutoff was younger if they were not full-time students. After that I needed a buddy pass. What you said about the cost of them at CO was (according to my father) the same at UA. But interline benefits must have been good, or at least refundable - when we went to SYD he bought passes on NZ just as a backup in case the flight home was full. So I presume either that was cheap or he just turned them back in unused and got his money back.

I remember on the standby passes we had to check if we wanted to list for Y or J. It struck me as very odd...a) why let nonrevs into J at all - if the only empty seat is in J, stick the nonrev in Y and make some paying pax's day by upgrading them from Y to J. b) if you listed in J and J was full but Y had seats, you didn't go. Or vice-versa. So it was a gamble. I think there should have been just one list, and (assuming my suggestion #a remained unimplemented) just give the standby pax whatever seats are available. If you were wearing jeans, you *had* to list in Y. Most of the times I used this benefit were in the early 90s, though, so this information is old. Once I grew up and got a job I got fed up with not getting home on time, so rather than using his buddy passes I just bought my own tickets.

[Edited 2010-08-07 11:26:04]

Topic: RE: UA Flight Benefits & And A Little Contract Talk
Username: N104UA
Posted 2010-08-07 17:33:41 and read 3398 times.

Quoting chase (Reply 1):
But seriously...my father worked for UA until about 5 years ago, so my info is a bit dated. Family members could fly standby free. Kids had to be under something like 22 or 23 or so...the cutoff was younger if they were not full-time students. After that I needed a buddy pas

This info is a little dated. Employees and Family Members fly free only in Y if they want J or F they pay a service charge. Once a kid turns 21 he looses his buddy passes unless he is a full time student then he has it until he is 25 or no longer a full time student.

Quoting chase (Reply 1):
remember on the standby passes we had to check if we wanted to list for Y or J. It struck me as very odd...a) why let nonrevs into J at all - if the only empty seat is in J, stick the nonrev in Y and make some paying pax's day by upgrading them from Y to J.

You Still need to list for the class you want, and they allow employees to fly in J or F (mostly only International now due to the automatic premier upgrade on domestic) because A the customer in Y did not pay for J and the employee pays a service charge for sitting there

Quoting chase (Reply 1):
b) if you listed in J and J was full but Y had seats, you didn't go. Or vice-versa. So it was a gamble. I think there should have been just one list, and (assuming my suggestion #a remained unimplemented) just give the standby pax whatever seats are available.

This is wrong if you list for J or F and there are no seats there but there are in Y the gate has to offer them to you.

Quoting chase (Reply 1):
. If you were wearing jeans, you *had* to list in Y.

This is correct


All of the standby is done on seniority, he who has higher seniority gets on first.

Topic: RE: UA Flight Benefits & And A Little Contract Talk
Username: FlyASAGuy2005
Posted 2010-08-07 18:08:08 and read 3352 times.

Quoting chase (Reply 1):
CO is hiring children now?


LOL! Good catch!

Ok thanks! This sounds like a step up from CO. With us, you pay a service charge for both Y and up front. Wonder which one they will go with?

I still say DL has among the best. You pay a $50 activation fee on your anniversary date and that releases your buddy passes (you only pay the taxes on them, no service fee) and your standy-by privileges is completely free in J, F, and Y. Companions pay the taxes but that's about it. I generally fly DL standy-by for the simple fact that I have a better chance of getting on a mainline a/c than on CO. Now that i'm out of school, I don't fly for free anymore but I just got an internship with CO so i'm back in the action  (albeit I have to pay   )

[Edited 2010-08-07 18:08:36]

Topic: RE: UA Flight Benefits & And A Little Contract Talk
Username: hiflyer
Posted 2010-08-08 00:32:46 and read 3052 times.

This is being discussed in various other forums regarding differences between CO and UA. Biggest is that at UA all employees travel at the same priority with the exception of executive mgt. At CO all mgt travel at a better priority than employees regardless of seniority. UA Y travel is free...F and J surcharge and svc chrgs for companion.

Topic: RE: UA Flight Benefits & And A Little Contract Talk
Username: United1
Posted 2010-08-08 08:38:57 and read 2895 times.

Quoting hiflyer (Reply 4):
Biggest is that at UA all employees travel at the same priority with the exception of executive mgt. At CO all mgt travel at a better priority than employees regardless of seniority.

That and retires at UA board ahead of active employees.

Topic: RE: UA Flight Benefits & And A Little Contract Talk
Username: mcdu
Posted 2010-08-08 12:05:01 and read 2505 times.

Quoting chase (Reply 1):
if you listed in J and J was full but Y had seats, you didn't go. Or vice-versa. So it was a gamble.

That has not been a UA policy In my 20+ years. Also, there were several other inaccuracies in your post but this was the most glaring.

At UA you can fly free on UAX or UA in coach. If you travel in F there is a pass fee. No separarte listing or check in requirements. If seat is open in F or J and you listed in either you get that seat. If not you get a Y seat. You do not "gamble" on the listing.

Topic: RE: UA Flight Benefits & And A Little Contract Talk
Username: hiflyer
Posted 2010-08-08 12:05:24 and read 2506 times.

Quoting United1 (Reply 5):
That and retires at UA board ahead of active employees.

Nope...only those with 25 years or more of active service prior to retirement......not that many.

Topic: RE: UA Flight Benefits & And A Little Contract Talk
Username: United1
Posted 2010-08-08 12:44:31 and read 2443 times.

Quoting hiflyer (Reply 7):
Quoting United1 (Reply 5):
That and retires at UA board ahead of active employees.

Nope...only those with 25 years or more of active service prior to retirement......not that many.

Your right...was going off the benefits that my dad has  


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