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Topic: So, When Will DL Start A N/s MEM-JFK
Username: Coronado
Posted 2011-01-11 20:04:23 and read 4454 times.

When can we expect to see at one daily Memphis to NYC JFK flight to try and coordinate with some of the international flights from JFK? Taking ground transport from LGA or EWR over to JFK sucks!

Topic: RE: So, When Will DL Start A N/s MEM-JFK
Username: sw733
Posted 2011-01-11 20:07:18 and read 4440 times.

JFK is slot controlled, no? What advantage would DL have of making one of their New York flights a JFK flight, thus using a slot, when a good chunk of DL's international destinations can be served via ATL, or via AMS since they still operate the MEM-AMS flight?

Topic: RE: So, When Will DL Start A N/s MEM-JFK
Username: FlyASAGuy2005
Posted 2011-01-11 20:08:21 and read 4417 times.

I never really got this one. It won't hurt to put a correctly timed MEM-JFK/JFK-MEM flight on a CR9. Would much prefer at least a DC9 or 88 but i'm a realist 

Topic: RE: So, When Will DL Start A N/s MEM-JFK
Username: steex
Posted 2011-01-11 20:09:45 and read 4419 times.

DL did add MEM-JFK on a regional aircraft after the merger, but evidently it did not perform well and was eventually phased out.

Topic: RE: So, When Will DL Start A N/s MEM-JFK
Username: washingtonian
Posted 2011-01-11 20:20:27 and read 4326 times.

That is surprising. I would think it could support at least one flight for the PM rush.

[Edited 2011-01-11 20:20:46]

Topic: RE: So, When Will DL Start A N/s MEM-JFK
Username: foxbravo
Posted 2011-01-12 05:12:39 and read 3942 times.

Quoting sw733 (Reply 1):
a good chunk of DL's international destinations can be served via ATL, or via AMS since they still operate the MEM-AMS flight?

I think this is it. It's probably easier for most MEM-Europe pax to transfer via AMS or ATL than JFK, and I don't think one daily MEM-JFK flight would open up many more one-stop connections than are already available through the other hubs.

Topic: RE: So, When Will DL Start A N/s MEM-JFK
Username: sw733
Posted 2011-01-12 05:43:21 and read 3892 times.

Quoting foxbravo (Reply 5):
MEM-Europe pax

ATL also opens up a lot more in terms of Latin America + Caribbean than JFK does in DL's network. just my initial thoughts on why there is no JFK flight.

Topic: RE: So, When Will DL Start A N/s MEM-JFK
Username: Cubsrule
Posted 2011-01-12 06:09:02 and read 3842 times.

Quoting foxbravo (Reply 5):
It's probably easier for most MEM-Europe pax to transfer via AMS or ATL than JFK,

...and easier has two components, both applicable here.

1) Transiting at AMS or ATL is less of a hassle than at JFK
2) Other things being equal, the total time on most itineraries with an AMS or ATL connection is shorter than those with a JFK connection - though with the need to re-clear security and pick up checked bags twice at MEM, the time difference with AMS on a westbound itinerary may be a bit misleading; it takes a lot longer to get out of MEM coming from AMS than coming from ATL or JFK.

Topic: RE: So, When Will DL Start A N/s MEM-JFK
Username: PSU.DTW.SCE
Posted 2011-01-12 06:23:56 and read 3804 times.

It was flown with a 76 seater last year, but performance stunk.
Primarily because the route relied exclusively on MEM O&D to connections to JFK-exclusive flights.
Pretty much everything else could better served for MEM O&D by connecting over DTW, ATL, MSP, or AMS.

It tied up a lot of block hours on a 76 seater and a slot at JFK.

Topic: RE: So, When Will DL Start A N/s MEM-JFK
Username: crosswinds21
Posted 2011-01-12 12:24:31 and read 3505 times.

Quoting sw733 (Reply 1):
JFK is slot controlled, no? What advantage would DL have of making one of their New York flights a JFK flight, thus using a slot, when a good chunk of DL's international destinations can be served via ATL, or via AMS since they still operate the MEM-AMS flight?

I think your point makes perfect sense. If the MEM-AMS flight weren't there, then I think that there would be a need for a MEM-JFK flight. Otherwise, like you said, all TATL connections can be served via AMS or ATL and (almost) all domestic connections can be served via ATL, DTW, or LGA.

It's for this reason that I've always though that AA doesn't need its RDU-JFK flights. Domestically, JFK doesn't provide any connections that AA's other hubs don't (unless you count YHZ as domestic) and all TATL destinations can already be flown with one connection via LHR. That's why I think there's good reason that all RDU-JFK flights should be moved to LGA and the JFK slots be used elsewhere.


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