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Topic: UA/CO SFO-IND? (well, According To The Route Map)
Username: TOMMY767
Posted 2011-11-29 19:21:49 and read 4822 times.

United has some of the latest OAG additions added to their route map online -- One of them is SFO-IND operated by CO. Can anybody confirm that this will be an eventual routing?

http://cgi.ua.flightlookup.com/routemap/routemap-fullscreen.html

Topic: RE: UA/CO SFO-IND? (well, According To The Route Map)
Username: point2point
Posted 2011-11-29 19:49:46 and read 4703 times.

Quoting TOMMY767 (Thread starter):
United has some of the latest OAG additions added to their route map online -- One of them is SFO-IND operated by CO. Can anybody confirm that this will be an eventual routing?

http://cgi.ua.flightlookup.com/route....html

You're correct, it does show up on the route map. How long has this been on, would you know?

Okay, my theory (probably a bad one at that, very bad in fact, but here goes....) is that CO will begin the route. It was just added to the route map yesterday, with an announcement to be made today. But with all of the AA BK news, UA decided to hold off on the announcement, fearing it would get lost with today's big news.

Okay, bad, very bad theory.......

 

Topic: RE: UA/CO SFO-IND? (well, According To The Route Map)
Username: TOMMY767
Posted 2011-11-29 21:23:42 and read 4423 times.

Quoting point2point (Reply 1):

You're correct, it does show up on the route map. How long has this been on, would you know?

I've got no idea. I just saw it tonight when I was bored and surfed through the route map under SFO direct routes.

I would have expected that this would have been announced with the recent round of OAG adds. But perhaps they are trying to figure out the proper aircraft before they make it official. The map says it will be operated by CO metal so best guess is 1x 73G or 738.

According to UA.com there are a few adds that didn't make it to OAG but are still bookable on the website. Two examples are 1x LAX/PHX-EWR on UA metal. So perhaps SFO-IND is a delayed announcement until later in the winter.

Topic: RE: UA/CO SFO-IND? (well, According To The Route Map)
Username: dumbell2424
Posted 2011-11-29 22:09:52 and read 4330 times.

Strangely enough, if you type SFO to IND in the boxes at the top, the nonstop doesn't show up. Just connecting thru ORD or DEN

Topic: RE: UA/CO SFO-IND? (well, According To The Route Map)
Username: CALPSAFltSkeds
Posted 2011-11-29 22:20:53 and read 4289 times.

Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 2):
I would have expected that this would have been announced with the recent round of OAG adds. But perhaps they are trying to figure out the proper aircraft before they make it official. The map says it will be operated by CO metal so best guess is 1x 73G or 738.

According to UA.com there are a few adds that didn't make it to OAG but are still bookable on the website. Two examples are 1x LAX/PHX-EWR on UA metal. So perhaps SFO-IND is a delayed announcement until later in the winter.

It just looks like IND-SFO maybe an error to me. IND has just RJs now and could UA/CO operate IND-SFO with an RJ?

Regarding the website routes, LAX-PHX is shown. PHX-EWR is shown eastbound only UA, Westbound CO only. In many cases blue and gold , blue and gray or gray and gold are shown with one looking like an outline.

Topic: RE: UA/CO SFO-IND? (well, According To The Route Map)
Username: COSPN
Posted 2011-11-29 22:34:36 and read 4239 times.

CO has the 737 IND-IAH and is a CO Mainline Station so IND-SFO would be great ..

Topic: RE: UA/CO SFO-IND? (well, According To The Route Map)
Username: Superfly
Posted 2011-11-30 00:53:07 and read 4086 times.

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 4):
IND has just RJs now and could UA/CO operate IND-SFO with an RJ?

I certainly hope not. That is too long to fly on an RJ.
I've done SFO-DEN-IND.
At that time it was a 747-400 from SFO-DEN, then a 757 from DEN-IND.
Now the DEN-IND segment has been downgraded to an RJ.
The 747 occasionally makes an appearance on the SFO-DEN segment. I think United has used every kind of aircraft on the SFO-DEN segment and often times has wide-bodies.

[Edited 2011-11-30 00:55:25]

Topic: RE: UA/CO SFO-IND? (well, According To The Route Map)
Username: Goldenshield
Posted 2011-11-30 06:09:45 and read 3955 times.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 6):
Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 4):
IND has just RJs now and could UA/CO operate IND-SFO with an RJ?

I certainly hope not. That is too long to fly on an RJ.

It's well outside the range of the CRJ-700/900 (with a full load,) let alone the -200. No idea on the E-170 or E-145XR, though.

Topic: RE: UA/CO SFO-IND? (well, According To The Route Map)
Username: TOMMY767
Posted 2011-11-30 06:19:37 and read 3926 times.

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 4):
Regarding the website routes, LAX-PHX is shown. PHX-EWR is shown eastbound only UA, Westbound CO only. In many cases blue and gold , blue and gray or gray and gold are shown with one looking like an outline.

LAX-PHX and EWR are bookable on United.com from April onwards with United metal, eastbound only (don't ask me why.)

Quoting Goldenshield (Reply 7):
It's well outside the range of the CRJ-700/900 (with a full load,) let alone the -200. No idea on the E-170 or E-145XR, though.

I honestly don't think the CR7/CR9s have the legs for SFO-IND. Delta operates LAX-IND using a 320 -- if they could I'm sure they would try to fly an E170 on the route.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 6):
At that time it was a 747-400 from SFO-DEN, then a 757 from DEN-IND.

That was a looonnngg time ago. Back in like 2002 when UA still had the MX base in IND.

Quoting dumbell2424 (Reply 3):
Strangely enough, if you type SFO to IND in the boxes at the top, the nonstop doesn't show up. Just connecting thru ORD or DEN

Ah damn you are correct. But it still shows up as a nonstop from SFO when you click on SFO and zoom in.

Topic: RE: UA/CO SFO-IND? (well, According To The Route Map)
Username: Goldenshield
Posted 2011-11-30 06:41:54 and read 3870 times.

Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 8):
I honestly don't think the CR7/CR9s have the legs for SFO-IND

Actually, they can, but only with about 10-20 passengers. When they are fresh from the factory, they fly BTV-SLC non-stop, and that's only 30 miles longer than IND-SFO.

Topic: RE: UA/CO SFO-IND? (well, According To The Route Map)
Username: as739x
Posted 2011-11-30 10:47:54 and read 3650 times.

Quoting TOMMY767 (Thread starter):
Quoting point2point (Reply 1):

However, if you take the route map to show just SFO-IND. It only shows connections.

Topic: RE: UA/CO SFO-IND? (well, According To The Route Map)
Username: FWAERJ
Posted 2011-11-30 13:32:15 and read 3464 times.

IND has been looking for the resumption of SFO service for some time. Here's a November 2010 article from Caldwell VanRiper, IND's ad agency:
http://www.cvrindy.com/detail.php?id=132&t=45

I predict that this route will do very well for UA, especially with the connections UA offers at SFO. Last time there was IND-SFO, it was a seasonal flight on NW, and there wasn't much offered in the way of connections.

Topic: RE: UA/CO SFO-IND? (well, According To The Route Map)
Username: TOMMY767
Posted 2011-11-30 13:42:54 and read 3440 times.

Quoting FWAERJ (Reply 11):

I think it would do well too. Note how over the last few years UA has been adding more heatland destinations to the SFO hub including OKC, MCI, and STL. IND would fit in nicely.

Topic: RE: UA/CO SFO-IND? (well, According To The Route Map)
Username: CALPSAFltSkeds
Posted 2011-11-30 13:44:32 and read 3432 times.

It hasn't been announced.
It shows only on the IND and SFO maps
It doesn't show on SFO-IND or IND-SFO maps
If its CO, then it couldn't be anything but a 737 route. CO RJs won't make it.

I'd be surprised this route is for real. If so, it would most likely be on UA equipment (319 or EMB170).

Topic: RE: UA/CO SFO-IND? (well, According To The Route Map)
Username: TOMMY767
Posted 2011-11-30 13:46:23 and read 3420 times.

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 13):
I'd be surprised this route is for real. If so, it would most likely be on UA equipment (319 or EMB170).

On the map it's indicated on CO metal (gold coloring.)

Again, perhaps a glitch but wishful thinking at this point.

Topic: RE: UA/CO SFO-IND? (well, According To The Route Map)
Username: CALPSAFltSkeds
Posted 2011-11-30 13:48:31 and read 3409 times.

Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 14):
Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 13):
I'd be surprised this route is for real. If so, it would most likely be on UA equipment (319 or EMB170).

On the map it's indicated on CO metal (gold coloring.)

Sorry to mention on my post that it was in gold coloring, thus CO. That's why I think it's a mistake.

Topic: RE: UA/CO SFO-IND? (well, According To The Route Map)
Username: COSPN
Posted 2011-11-30 15:41:13 and read 3293 times.

There are no UA emps at IND anymore so any Mailine to IND has to be CO

Topic: RE: UA/CO SFO-IND? (well, According To The Route Map)
Username: Superfly
Posted 2011-11-30 20:08:22 and read 3116 times.

Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 8):
That was a looonnngg time ago. Back in like 2002 when UA still had the MX base in IND.

I took this flight in 2005.


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