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Topic: Qatar Airways Network Changes S12
Username: ojas
Posted 2012-02-05 03:05:34 and read 9420 times.

According to the GDS, Qatar Airways has made the following changes to their network from S12.

New Destinations:

1) KGL: From 21MAR the existing DOH - EBB route will be extended to KGL using a A320. It will have rights between EBB and KGL.

2)ZAG: From 09MAY the existing DOH - BUD flights will extend to ZAG using an A320

3) PER: From 03JUL DOH - PER will be started using a B777-200LR. The route will go daily in W12.


Schedules for HEL, ELQ, MBA, ZNZ, BEG, LED, KBP to be announced.

Existing Routes:

1) DOH - TIP resumes via HBE 3 times a week

2) DOH - MAN reduces from 14 weekly to 10 weekly, will return to 14 weekly in W12

3) DOH - CEB route suspended from S12 which was a 3 weekly operation

4) DOH - ALG increases from daily to 11 weekly A330

5) DOH - CGK increases from daily to 10 weekly using A330

6) DOH - STR will now be operated via ZRH. 3 of the existing flights to ZRH will continue to STR

7) DOH - YUL increases from 3 weekly B77L to 3 weekly B77W

8) DOH - MXP increases from 11 weekly to 14 weekly from 01MAY

9) DOH - LHR will have a 5th daily flight using a B77L.

10) DOH - CAI increases from 9 weekly to 12 weekly from S12

11) DOH - KUL increases from 14 weekly to 16 weekly from S12

12) DOH - BCN will increase to 11 weekly from W12

13) DOH - MAD will increase to 10 weekly from W12

14) DOH - ICN will switch from daily A332 to daily B77L from 01AUG

Topic: RE: Qatar Airways Network Changes S12
Username: QatarA340
Posted 2012-02-05 03:29:06 and read 9311 times.

Quoting ojas (Thread starter):
12) DOH - BCN will increase to 11 weekly from W12

13) DOH - MAD will increase to 10 weekly from W12

With EK increasing MAD to double daily, QR should seriously consider that.

To note that QR will recieve 5 787 this year, most probably used on the UK routes, it will free up some needed A330s for new destinations. Can the 787 make it DOH-SFO, or DOH-LAX nonstop?

Thanks Ojas as usual.

Topic: RE: Qatar Airways Network Changes S12
Username: ojas
Posted 2012-02-05 03:53:24 and read 9201 times.

Quoting QatarA340 (Reply 1):
With EK increasing MAD to double daily, QR should seriously consider that.

To note that QR will recieve 5 787 this year, most probably used on the UK routes, it will free up some needed A330s for new destinations. Can the 787 make it DOH-SFO, or DOH-LAX nonstop?

QR is going at an extremely fast rate, they need to reach the target of 120 destinations with 120 planes which they have been publicising all these years.

I'm really keen to know whether AAB will actually keep his word and start 3 new points in India!

Topic: RE: Qatar Airways Network Changes S12
Username: HB-IWC
Posted 2012-02-05 03:57:06 and read 9183 times.

Quoting ojas (Reply 2):
QR is going at an extremely fast rate

In its quest to mimick EK, QR is spreading itself too thin. The airline's main focus seems to be on network expansion, whereas more attention to frequency and schedule symmetry in order to offer better and more consistent connectivity is really what is needed to be able to attract more premium traffic. Of course, improved connectivity at DOH is unlikely to gain as much attention from the press as yet another 10 new destinations.

Topic: RE: Qatar Airways Network Changes S12
Username: ojas
Posted 2012-02-05 04:17:00 and read 9073 times.

Quoting HB-IWC (Reply 3):
Of course, improved connectivity at DOH is unlikely to gain as much attention from the press as yet another 10 new destinations.

Absolutely and they do know that their network can never be as dense as EK which is why increasing the number of points in the network will give them that satisfaction. But as you rightly point out, schedule integrity is something that QR gives a toss.

Topic: RE: Qatar Airways Network Changes S12
Username: UALWN
Posted 2012-02-05 04:39:50 and read 8963 times.

Quoting QatarA340 (Reply 1):
Quoting ojas (Thread starter):
12) DOH - BCN will increase to 11 weekly from W12

13) DOH - MAD will increase to 10 weekly from W12

With EK increasing MAD to double daily, QR should seriously consider that.

Plus EK is starting BCN too with 7 weekly 77Ws. It all seems slightly too much.

Topic: RE: Qatar Airways Network Changes S12
Username: QatarA340
Posted 2012-02-05 08:51:08 and read 8386 times.

Quoting ojas (Thread starter):
6) DOH - STR will now be operated via ZRH. 3 of the existing flights to ZRH will continue to STR
Quoting ojas (Thread starter):
3) DOH - CEB route suspended from S12 which was a 3 weekly operation
Quoting ojas (Thread starter):
14) DOH - ICN will switch from daily A332 to daily B77L from 01AUG

I think with all these changes, one could perhaps emphasize what AAB has been saying all along regarding the delays of the Boeing 787's. I think it shows how QR is trying to spread itself thin announcing all these new destinations, while trying prioritize new routes.

I think however, that most new routes in recent years, have been A320's and have been operated with a stopover. A320s keep on coming like hotcakes thus opening new destinations. The area which QR lacks completely is Australia, with only 1 destination served-- in addition to the West Coast of both the USA and Africa.

Topic: RE: Qatar Airways Network Changes S12
Username: migair54
Posted 2012-02-05 09:03:34 and read 8341 times.

Quoting ojas (Thread starter):
12) DOH - BCN will increase to 11 weekly from W12

13) DOH - MAD will increase to 10 weekly from W12

yes, amazing... MAD will be 24xweek B777 and BCN 17xweek A332 and B77W

Quoting HB-IWC (Reply 3):
In its quest to mimick EK, QR is spreading itself too thin. The airline's main focus seems to be on network expansion, whereas more attention to frequency and schedule symmetry in order to offer better and more consistent connectivity is really what is needed to be able to attract more premium traffic. Of course, improved connectivity at DOH is unlikely to gain as much attention from the press as yet another 10 new destinations.

Exactly... but it seems that they want publicity only opening new routes, but they really need to work out the schedules and freqs...

Even turkish is doing something similar.... opening so many new routes....

Can they really manage to organize, and get profit all of this new schedules with tag ons and layovers... ????

Topic: RE: Qatar Airways Network Changes S12
Username: AF086
Posted 2012-02-05 09:04:11 and read 8331 times.

The rumour mill is strong regarding a new DOH-GIG-SCL service by QR. Any news on that? EK seems to be satisfied with the early performance of their new DXB-GIG-EZE flight.

Topic: RE: Qatar Airways Network Changes S12
Username: UALWN
Posted 2012-02-05 09:25:20 and read 8209 times.

Quoting migair54 (Reply 7):
yes, amazing... MAD will be 24xweek B777 and BCN 17xweek A332 and B77W

BCN will actually be 18/week.

Topic: RE: Qatar Airways Network Changes S12
Username: SepulTALLICA
Posted 2012-02-05 09:29:43 and read 8182 times.

QatarA340 guy, i have been hearing rumours from some folks in the travel industry in Zimbabwe that QR have been considering starting HRE at some stage in the future. Do you have any info on that mane?

Thanks in advance.

Topic: RE: Qatar Airways Network Changes S12
Username: migair54
Posted 2012-02-05 09:39:22 and read 8128 times.

Quoting SepulTALLICA (Reply 10):
QatarA340 guy, i have been hearing rumours from some folks in the travel industry in Zimbabwe that QR have been considering starting HRE at some stage in the future. Do you have any info on that mane?

Thanks in advance.

the only problems i see for that is that EK just start flying there via LUN and that to operate that route they will need an A330 because taking off from HRE with an A319 and so much fuel they will be very restricted.

What about operating via NBO?? currently QR does, DOH-NBO-DAR but loads are very low because they direct flights they also offer to both destinations, why not re route DOH-NBO-HRE??

Topic: RE: Qatar Airways Network Changes S12
Username: wedgetail737
Posted 2012-02-05 09:47:04 and read 8076 times.

I was hoping we would see more of Qatar Airways in the US.

Topic: RE: Qatar Airways Network Changes S12
Username: abrelosojos
Posted 2012-02-05 09:47:21 and read 8076 times.

Quoting HB-IWC (Reply 3):
In its quest to mimick EK, QR is spreading itself too thin. The airline's main focus seems to be on network expansion, whereas more attention to frequency and schedule symmetry in order to offer better and more consistent connectivity is really what is needed to be able to attract more premium traffic. Of course, improved connectivity at DOH is unlikely to gain as much attention from the press as yet another 10 new destinations.
Quoting migair54 (Reply 7):
Can they really manage to organize, and get profit all of this new schedules with tag ons and layovers... ????

= Absolutely. Remember, QR is NOT run as an organization that needs to make a profit - it is just an arm of Qatari foreign policy. Sort of like Al Jazeera TV proselytizing democracy without a look at its backyard. QR's yield and RASM numbers are below what some LCC's around the world get.

Saludos,
A.

Topic: RE: Qatar Airways Network Changes S12
Username: JoKeR
Posted 2012-02-05 10:05:56 and read 7990 times.

When is BEG starting, they announced that just after the ZAG flights?

Topic: RE: Qatar Airways Network Changes S12
Username: soups
Posted 2012-02-05 10:19:16 and read 7918 times.

Still waiting DOH-ACC to break the ek monopoly to asia

Topic: RE: Qatar Airways Network Changes S12
Username: as739x
Posted 2012-02-05 10:20:36 and read 7907 times.

Quoting QatarA340 (Reply 1):

LAX/SFO are both well in range for the 787. I took would like to see Qatar expand into California, specially SFO.

Topic: RE: Qatar Airways Network Changes S12
Username: flyboy_se
Posted 2012-02-05 10:44:39 and read 7778 times.

Quoting ojas (Thread starter):
Schedules for HEL, ELQ, MBA, ZNZ, BEG, LED, KBP to be announced.

When was BEG,LED and KBP announced?? i have completely missed that

Topic: RE: Qatar Airways Network Changes S12
Username: SepulTALLICA
Posted 2012-02-05 13:00:29 and read 7056 times.

Quoting migair54 (Reply 11):
the only problems i see for that is that EK just start flying there via LUN and that to operate that route they will need an A330 because taking off from HRE with an A319 and so much fuel they will be very restricted.

What about operating via NBO?? currently QR does, DOH-NBO-DAR but loads are very low because they direct flights they also offer to both destinations, why not re route DOH-NBO-HRE??

I'm sure its a possibility man. From what some pals at EK have told me, EK's intention is to eventually graduate DXB-HRE and DXB-LUN to their own individual flights, should loads pick up as they are expected to come December time. If this should happen, i don't see why QR should have any problem operating flights to HRE using something bigger than a 319 (excuse my armchair executive thought process here).

Back to the original topic: the reason i ask is that many people i know of who travel to Europe use QR because, despite having to go HRE-JNB-DOH-LHR for example, they (QR) are far better quality and relatively cheaper than even ET for example. I know many Italian diplomats who use QR instead of ET to go from HRE to FCO for thsi very reason.

Anyway, if anyone knows anything about this potential routing, i'd appreciate your thoughts.

Topic: RE: Qatar Airways Network Changes S12
Username: ojas
Posted 2012-02-05 13:39:29 and read 6663 times.

HRE, ACC and FIH are three destinations which are eventually going to be on QR's map as soon as 2013 start.

I expect HRE to be a tag on destination using an A320.

Topic: RE: Qatar Airways Network Changes S12
Username: SepulTALLICA
Posted 2012-02-05 14:04:45 and read 6489 times.

Quoting ojas (Reply 19):
HRE, ACC and FIH are three destinations which are eventually going to be on QR's map as soon as 2013 start.

I expect HRE to be a tag on destination using an A320.

Well very interesting news there mayne - thanks for your help!

Topic: RE: Qatar Airways Network Changes S12
Username: shamrock604
Posted 2012-02-05 14:11:11 and read 6436 times.

Quoting UALWN (Reply 5):
Plus EK is starting BCN too with 7 weekly 77Ws. It all seems slightly too much.

You'd be surprised - we thought that in Dublin too. EY started off with 4 flights a week, then it was daily, then 11 times a week, then EK came in with an A330, and just three weeks after they started flights, it's now going 777-300 on foot of one of their most succesful launches ever.

The MEB3 just seem to have tapped into pent up demand by taking out one of the stops en-route to SE Asia and Oz. They've just made it easier, and cracked open the pent open the pent up demand.

Topic: RE: Qatar Airways Network Changes S12
Username: HB-IWC
Posted 2012-02-05 18:17:26 and read 5379 times.

Quoting JoKeR (Reply 14):
When is BEG starting, they announced that just after the ZAG flights?
Quoting ojas (Thread starter):
Schedules for HEL, ELQ, MBA, ZNZ, BEG, LED, KBP to be announced.

QR462/463 DOH ESB DOH is currently scheduled with a ground time of over 7 hours at ESB. I presume that this flight will be extended to one of the yet to be announced destinations. BEG and KBP seem prime candidates.

Topic: RE: Qatar Airways Network Changes S12
Username: behramjee
Posted 2012-02-05 21:15:52 and read 4752 times.

QR should initially fly to HRE via DAR on an A320 as the DAR market size is not big enough to warrant a double daily A320 nonstop terminator service.

As far as FIH is concerned, I would propose QR operate an A333 over there via NBO. What about QR getting into ADD? That market segment more so than any other African destination has the biggest potential for QR to exploit both in terms of volume and yield as the labor market demand to/from the Middle East + VFR/leisure Ethiopian traffic bound to India/Europe/BKK/IAD/IAH/JFK is massive.

Topic: RE: Qatar Airways Network Changes S12
Username: ojas
Posted 2012-02-05 21:33:41 and read 4678 times.

Quoting HB-IWC (Reply 22):
QR462/463 DOH ESB DOH is currently scheduled with a ground time of over 7 hours at ESB. I presume that this flight will be extended to one of the yet to be announced destinations. BEG and KBP seem prime candidates.

I'm not sure if the rotation would fit in. Also with the de-linking of NBO and DAR on one of the flights, it is anyone's guess we are looking at ZNZ and MBA to be tagged to these destinations.

Topic: RE: Qatar Airways Network Changes S12
Username: IndianicWorld
Posted 2012-02-05 23:37:06 and read 4389 times.

Quoting shamrock604 (Reply 21):
You'd be surprised - we thought that in Dublin too. EY started off with 4 flights a week, then it was daily, then 11 times a week, then EK came in with an A330, and just three weeks after they started flights, it's now going 777-300 on foot of one of their most succesful launches ever.

Abit early to be declaring success just yet. Time will tell where things settles. Boosting EK capacity might just drop EY's frequency in the end, but thats not clear yet.

QR have made gains on their MEL flights since starting, with good loads and the yields appear to be increasing also fro what I have seen. Going up against 3 X daily EK and 1 X daily EY flights took time to get a position in the market, but over time that has changed. With EK adding the A388 in October into MEL, it will be interesting to see if that has any effects.

[Edited 2012-02-06 00:30:17]

Topic: RE: Qatar Airways Network Changes S12
Username: QatarA340
Posted 2012-02-06 00:18:34 and read 4250 times.

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 13):
= Absolutely. Remember, QR is NOT run as an organization that needs to make a profit - it is just an arm of Qatari foreign policy. Sort of like Al Jazeera TV proselytizing democracy without a look at its backyard. QR's yield and RASM numbers are below what some LCC's around the world get.

QR is a semi-private Company, and of course it needs to make a profit. QR an arm of foreign policy? I would get the rationale if you said AlJazeera, but Qatar Airways, really?

Its dropping routes which have low demand, and adding new routes which it seems to be viable.

Topic: RE: Qatar Airways Network Changes S12
Username: carpethead
Posted 2012-02-06 00:25:56 and read 4305 times.

Still no de-linking of the NRT/KIX flight from DOH.
QR must know what they are doing & paying for landing fees.

Topic: RE: Qatar Airways Network Changes S12
Username: migair54
Posted 2012-02-06 02:30:10 and read 3754 times.

Quoting behramjee (Reply 23):
QR should initially fly to HRE via DAR on an A320 as the DAR market size is not big enough to warrant a double daily A320 nonstop terminator service.

QR just announce the new schedule and you might be right...


Doha – Dar es Salaam eff 01JUN12 All 2 Daily flights operating on NONSTOP basis once again. Currently 1 of 2 Daily flight operates via Nairobi

QR546 DOH0155 – 0740DAR 320 D
QR544 DOH0735 – 1320DAR 320 D

QR547 DAR1305 – 1845DOH 320 D
QR545 DAR1820 – 2359DOH 320 D

So QR 546 arrives DAR at 7:40 and no schedule departure until 13:05.... They may add a tag on but HRE it´s out of range... but maybe Lusaka and Lilongwe...

Topic: RE: Qatar Airways Network Changes S12
Username: SurfandSnow
Posted 2012-02-06 05:31:38 and read 3427 times.

Quoting ojas (Thread starter):
1) KGL: From 21MAR the existing DOH - EBB route will be extended to KGL using a A320. It will have rights between EBB and KGL.

2)ZAG: From 09MAY the existing DOH - BUD flights will extend to ZAG using an A320

Great to see QR pioneering the way into underserved niche markets.

Quoting ojas (Thread starter):
3) PER: From 03JUL DOH - PER will be started using a B777-200LR. The route will go daily in W12.

So still no SYD? I realize that QR wants to avoid the heavy competition there, but sooner or later they'll have to serve the country's most popular market, right?

Quoting ojas (Thread starter):
Schedules for HEL, ELQ, MBA, ZNZ, BEG, LED, KBP to be announced.

WOW! Quite the exciting list of destinations. Looks like Africa and Eastern Europe/CIS have lots of potential.

Quoting ojas (Thread starter):
1) DOH - TIP resumes via HBE 3 times a week

When does this resume? Nice to see things returning to normal in Libya.

Quoting ojas (Thread starter):
3) DOH - CEB route suspended from S12 which was a 3 weekly operation

Nice to see that QR is willing to cut routes that aren't meeting potential/expectations, rather than sticking it out for prestige. They seem to be on track to profitability after all!

Quoting ojas (Thread starter):
6) DOH - STR will now be operated via ZRH. 3 of the existing flights to ZRH will continue to STR

Shocking...is the STR route not doing well??

Quoting AF086 (Reply 8):
The rumour mill is strong regarding a new DOH-GIG-SCL service by QR

Is their first South American route doing that well? SCL is an awfully small market, even from Europe and the U.S., I can't imagine it's ready for a Middle Eastern link yet...

Quoting SepulTALLICA (Reply 10):
QatarA340 guy, i have been hearing rumours from some folks in the travel industry in Zimbabwe that QR have been considering starting HRE at some stage in the future

I wouldn't doubt it. Apparently Zimbabwe gave the Middle Eastern airlines the run around in years past to protect their airline, but now that Air Zimbabwe could go under they are finally letting interested foreign carriers in...

Topic: RE: Qatar Airways Network Changes S12
Username: jetlag73
Posted 2012-02-06 06:18:47 and read 3299 times.

CEB is cancelled, but seems DPS is doing good, with a mix of 77W and 77L.
Yields not sure, but loads are great (I know, I know, loads mean nothing. Still...)

Topic: RE: Qatar Airways Network Changes S12
Username: QatarA340
Posted 2012-02-06 07:44:02 and read 3179 times.

Checking the log books, QR has about 8 A320s, 1 77W, 5 787, and 1 777F to be delivered for this year. I might be wrong, however. That means there is room for expansion especially on the short haul segment. Lets not forget QR always stated they are interested in "going to Iraq in full-force". And their Iranian aspirations.

The 77W can be used to replace some A330 destination, or perhaps add the anticipated Western coast US launch. the 787s will be used perhaps to LHR, MAN initially, as well as perhaps an Asian route. Its strange ICN, LHR will be flown with 77L, where certainly these planes can be utilized for longer routes.

SYD, LAX, SFO, ORD they are all important cities missing in the network. Perhaps no SYD for now, as PER is already chosen.

Topic: RE: Qatar Airways Network Changes S12
Username: kiramakora
Posted 2012-02-06 07:49:35 and read 3157 times.

Quoting QatarA340 (Reply 26):
QR is a semi-private Company, and of course it needs to make a profit. QR an arm of foreign policy? I would get the rationale if you said AlJazeera, but Qatar Airways, really?

Its dropping routes which have low demand, and adding new routes which it seems to be viable.

QR is owned by the State of Qatar. Why don't you do do some due diligence on who are the "private investors" owning the rest of the 50% of the stakes in QR. Finally, if you claim you know QR, why don't you visit the company HQ and go to the RM department and see the "clock" that track the revenue and yield numbers. They currently have literally a handful of money making routes. All else bleed money. In fact, some of their routes bleed more money that Etihad which was famous for losing 200,000 USD per flight initially on its JFK ops.

Topic: RE: Qatar Airways Network Changes S12
Username: sq_ek_freak
Posted 2012-02-06 08:48:11 and read 3041 times.

Quoting ojas (Reply 19):
HRE, ACC and FIH are three destinations which are eventually going to be on QR's map as soon as 2013 start.

If galley gossip is to be believed, FIH is high on EK's list too.

Quoting QatarA340 (Reply 26):
QR is a semi-private Company, and of course it needs to make a profit. QR an arm of foreign policy? I would get the rationale if you said AlJazeera, but Qatar Airways, really?

Its dropping routes which have low demand, and adding new routes which it seems to be viable.

To be honest, I disagree with this. It seems as though even AAB doesn't make much effort to hide the fact that at QR, profitability is not high on the priority list. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure they try their best under set parameters to attain a profit on a given route, but this most times is not achieved.

Quoting kiramakora (Reply 32):
QR is owned by the State of Qatar. Why don't you do do some due diligence on who are the "private investors" owning the rest of the 50% of the stakes in QR. Finally, if you claim you know QR, why don't you visit the company HQ and go to the RM department and see the "clock" that track the revenue and yield numbers. They currently have literally a handful of money making routes. All else bleed money. In fact, some of their routes bleed more money that Etihad which was famous for losing 200,000 USD per flight initially on its JFK ops.

     

Topic: RE: Qatar Airways Network Changes S12
Username: QatarA340
Posted 2012-02-06 23:14:43 and read 2594 times.

Quoting kiramakora (Reply 32):
QR is owned by the State of Qatar. Why don't you do do some due diligence on who are the "private investors" owning the rest of the 50% of the stakes in QR.

No its not, as much as the "Qatar is so rich" fever spreads the globe, QR is NOT fully owned by the government. It is owned by senior members of the Royal Family.

Quoting kiramakora (Reply 32):
why don't you visit the company HQ and go to the RM department and see the "clock" that track the revenue and yield numbers.

And why should I? Yes Qatar is the richest country in the world, and yes, Qatar is investing in everything in the world so far, but who are you to think that QR doesnt care about making money? If AAB said that the company group made 250 million or so dollars last year, you would seem to think its loosing money.

Im not saying every route is a success or it bleeds money on some routes. I just read what the CEO of QR about his company. Surely he knows more than an a.netter, dont you think?

Quoting sq_ek_freak (Reply 33):
To be honest, I disagree with this. It seems as though even AAB doesn't make much effort to hide the fact that at QR, profitability is not high on the priority list. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure they try their best under set parameters to attain a profit on a given route, but this most times is not achieved.

Fair enough. He even mentions delaying the IPO for some time, due to the financial situation or something like that. I dont work for QR, but it is annoying to correct everyone all time with their incorrect assumptions like "EK is run by oil money, QR doesnt care about loosing money, ect..."

Topic: RE: Qatar Airways Network Changes S12
Username: abrelosojos
Posted 2012-02-07 00:41:22 and read 2460 times.

Quoting QatarA340 (Reply 34):

No its not, as much as the "Qatar is so rich" fever spreads the globe, QR is NOT fully owned by the government. It is owned by senior members of the Royal Family.

= Seriously? And, the senior members of the Royal Family is not part of the government?

Quoting QatarA340 (Reply 34):
And why should I? Yes Qatar is the richest country in the world, and yes, Qatar is investing in everything in the world so far, but who are you to think that QR doesnt care about making money? If AAB said that the company group made 250 million or so dollars last year, you would seem to think its loosing money.

Im not saying every route is a success or it bleeds money on some routes. I just read what the CEO of QR about his company. Surely he knows more than an a.netter, dont you think?

= You don't have to believe anything you don't want to. Some of us DO have exposure to QR and I can support the above claim that only a handful of routes make money. AAB does not have much credibility and his style of governance (bullying) can never translate to a transparent business practice. And seriously, it made 250 million? Doing what? Selling oil to foreign airlines?

Quoting QatarA340 (Reply 34):
Fair enough. He even mentions delaying the IPO for some time, due to the financial situation or something like that. I dont work for QR, but it is annoying to correct everyone all time with their incorrect assumptions like "EK is run by oil money, QR doesnt care about loosing money, ect..."

= I look forward to a day when QR will have an IPO that will be open to outside fair bidding.

Saludos,
A.

Topic: RE: Qatar Airways Network Changes S12
Username: QatarA340
Posted 2012-02-07 00:48:45 and read 2437 times.

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 35):

= Seriously? And, the senior members of the Royal Family is not part of the government?

Nope. Propery, land, airline companies, grocery shops owned by the members of the Royal Family are NOT part of the governement.

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 35):

= You don't have to believe anything you don't want to. Some of us DO have exposure to QR and I can support the above claim that only a handful of routes make money. AAB does not have much credibility and his style of governance (bullying) can never translate to a transparent business practice. And seriously, it made 250 million? Doing what? Selling oil to foreign airlines?

Lol, ok fine. You have more credibility than AAB.  

 

Topic: RE: Qatar Airways Network Changes S12
Username: ojas
Posted 2012-02-07 01:04:10 and read 2407 times.

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 35):
AAB does not have much credibility and his style of governance (bullying) can never translate to a transparent business practice.

Qatar Airways as an entity that is being used to extract businesses/tourism into Qatar as they know natural gas revenue is not going to last forever. It is a business in which they expect to get returns for themselves beyond the airline framework. Which is why I feel there is no relevance in highlighting the fact whether they lose money to a particular route or not, or whether a route is kept for prestige/political needs.

At the end of the day, the strategy of the airline seems to expand it's reach to a majority of points in the world and then stabilise/rationalise operations so as to get a stronger revenue from passengers flying them. Besides other than a few destinations, I just don't see any bizarre capacity dumping to a particular destination. Wherever needed QR has scaled down operations and terminated routes.


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