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Username: shadez
Posted 2012-04-13 08:01:49 and read 5730 times.
http://travel.usatoday.com/flights/p...o-raleigh-fort-lauderdale/671046/1
1x daily 738 effective Nov. 4 with a second season flight during the winter.
Username: jonathanxxxx
Posted 2012-04-13 08:18:17 and read 5645 times.
Good, nice to see UA finally acknowledging the South Florida market. Although aren't they going to be competing with NK and B6?
Username: mogandoCI
Posted 2012-04-13 08:22:09 and read 5622 times.
Quoting jonathanxxxx (Reply 1):
Good, nice to see UA finally acknowledging the South Florida market. Although aren't they going to be competing with NK and B6?
True, but 1x daily won't trigger any price wars, and UA has a large enough base to work with.
Username: TOMMY767
Posted 2012-04-13 08:23:46 and read 5623 times.
Oh we all KNEW this was coming. It's been too long! Well done again, UA.
What year did UA drop IAD-FLL/PBI?
Username: jetpixx
Posted 2012-04-13 08:29:19 and read 5564 times.
In the column, the last sentence says 'United will be the only carrier flying nonstop between Dulles and Fort Lauderdale'.
Username: MAH4546
Posted 2012-04-13 08:29:23 and read 5564 times.
This is the third try in as many years. CO tried IADFLL not long after the merger.
Username: TOMMY767
Posted 2012-04-13 08:34:33 and read 5519 times.
Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 5):
CO tried IADFLL not long after the merger.
a.
I'm not sure if this is true.
Username: flyiguy
Posted 2012-04-13 08:57:09 and read 5428 times.
In the column, the last sentence says 'United will be the only carrier flying nonstop between Dulles and
This is true since B6 will be consolidating its ops at DCA with the exception of their west coast cities, JFK and BOS
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Username: United787
Posted 2012-04-13 09:20:05 and read 5320 times.
Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 5):
This is the third try in as many years. CO tried IADFLL not long after the merger.
I know CO started ORD-FLL and DEN-FLL just after the merger...but didn't they cancel DEN-FLL recently?
Username: rdh3e
Posted 2012-04-13 09:21:43 and read 5320 times.
Quoting jonathanxxxx (Reply 1):
Good, nice to see UA finally acknowledging the South Florida market. Although aren't they going to be competing with NK and B6?
UA also has never had (until the merger) access to a partner on the other end. But with Silver Airways, formerly Gulfstream, having their base there, they should be able to draw some higher yielding connections onto those flights. Mostly into Jamaica and the near Caribbean type places.
Username: TOMMY767
Posted 2012-04-13 09:40:41 and read 5229 times.
Quoting United787 (Reply 8):
Seasonal -- it still operates:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/U...4/history/20120412/1930Z/KFLL/KDEN
According to wikipedia, UAEX has a "hub" at FLL for Silver Airways which as stated leads to some high yield connection opportunities. Wonder if a LAX-FLL or SFO-FLL is next considering ORD, CLE, IAD, EWR, IAH, and DEN are already served?
Username: washingtonian
Posted 2012-04-13 10:06:18 and read 5127 times.
Very nice to see them return!!
Quoting jonathanxxxx (Reply 1):
Although aren't they going to be competing with NK and B6?
Not from IAD. I suspect B6's withdrawal from FLL-IAD is the reason they are entering the market again.
Username: enilria
Posted 2012-04-13 10:09:03 and read 5113 times.
Quoting shadez (Thread starter):
http://travel.usatoday.com/flights/p...o-raleigh-fort-lauderdale/671046/1
1x daily 738 effective Nov. 4 with a second season flight during the winter.Quoting jetpixx (Reply 4):
In the column, the last sentence says 'United will be the only carrier flying nonstop between Dulles and Fort Lauderdale'.
It's truly amazing that the route was going to be unserved. Makes sense for UA.
Username: United_fan
Posted 2012-04-13 11:42:37 and read 4841 times.
Quoting United787 (Reply 8):
...but didn't they cancel DEN-FLL recently?
That was UA MIA-DEN,I think.
Username: hiflyer
Posted 2012-04-13 11:56:19 and read 4799 times.
UA had Gulfstream/SIlver as a codeshare...not Express...from FLL and MIA and TPA and MCO back prior to Chapt 11. IADFLL on CO never started. Route will be run with 738...s-co metal as of now.
Username: iadbudd
Posted 2012-04-13 13:13:22 and read 4551 times.
This will be good for the Cruise ship traffic out of FLL and the deadheading UA crew members that fly out of IAD and still live down in the long since closed MIA crew base. It just basically picks up the slack of Jet Blue dropping IAD-FLL.
Username: kgaiflyer
Posted 2012-04-13 13:18:17 and read 4504 times.
Quoting washingtonian (Reply 11):
Quoting jonathanxxxx (Reply 1):
Although aren't they going to be competing with NK and B6?
Not from IAD. I suspect B6's withdrawal from FLL-IAD is the reason they are entering the market again.
NK flies from DCA -- with additional FL/WN service from BWI
Username: jfklganyc
Posted 2012-04-13 13:28:36 and read 4436 times.
Makes you wonder why B6 is axing the route.
Oh wait...they bid for slots without the aircraft to fly them! My bad...almost forgot
Username: SWALUV
Posted 2012-04-13 13:38:26 and read 4350 times.
Quoting jfklganyc (Reply 17):
they bid for slots without the aircraft to fly them!
So is this the reason they are stopping IAD-MCO? 
Username: JasonCRH
Posted 2012-04-13 14:54:12 and read 4022 times.
Incorrect. CO metal never served IADFLL after the merger. They started ORDFLL but never IAD. This will be the first UA service since UA discontinued in 2008
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Reply 5, posted Fri Apr 13 2012 12:29:23 your local time (6 hours 22 minutes 45 secs ago) and read 1534 times:
This is the third try in as many years. CO tried IADFLL not long after the merger.
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Username: OB1504
Posted 2012-04-13 15:53:23 and read 3744 times.
Quoting jonathanxxxx (Reply 1):
Although aren't they going to be competing with NK and B6?
To an extent, but UA will probably be targeting passengers connecting onward from IAD. NK's fare structure means that they compete more with Greyhound than they do with other airlines on their routes.
Quoting hiflyer (Reply 14):
UA had Gulfstream/SIlver as a codeshare...not Express...from FLL and MIA and TPA and MCO back prior to Chapt 11.
I believe the flights were marketed as Continental Connection and United Express, though the aircraft themselves did wear CO colors. Indeed, the new 3M colors displayed a clear influence.
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Username: NASBWI
Posted 2012-04-13 15:56:33 and read 3718 times.
Quoting iadbudd (Reply 15):
This will be good for the Cruise ship traffic out of FLL and the deadheading UA crew members that fly out of IAD and still live down in the long since closed MIA crew base.
Indeed! I was beginning to feel a little sorry for those UA crewmembers; B6 was somewhat a "UA crew shuttle" between So. Fla and IAD...
As for UA's business, any guesses on whether this route will be sustainable now that UA will have zero competition on IAD-FLL? From my experience, B6's loads have usually been pretty healthy between those two airports year-round, but I couldn't tell you how the yields were; I'm guessing DCA-FLL is knocking them out of the ballpark (or is about to).
Username: United787
Posted 2012-04-13 17:30:49 and read 3376 times.
Would anyone dare to call FLL a focus city? I am surprised that that UA can compete at FLL since it is such a LCC airport...
I will definately explore UA ORD-FLL-Bahamas for my next winter vacation...
Username: canyonblue17
Posted 2012-04-13 18:36:55 and read 3138 times.
Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 10):
Wonder if a LAX-FLL or SFO-FLL is next considering ORD, CLE, IAD, EWR, IAH, and DEN are already served?
FLL to SFO and LAX are currently served by Virgina America
Username: doulasc
Posted 2012-04-13 18:50:07 and read 3095 times.
So JetBlue is dropping their IAD to Florida service but will keep IAD-BOS/JFK and west coast?
Username: FSDan
Posted 2012-04-13 23:35:20 and read 2606 times.
Quoting canyonblue17 (Reply 23):
FLL to SFO and LAX are currently served by Virgina America
True. And FLL-LAX also has AA and NK. I don't think they'll be jumping on that one in a hurry.
Edit: Oh, and I forgot B6.
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Username: NASBWI
Posted 2012-04-14 00:56:45 and read 2535 times.
Quoting doulasc (Reply 24):
So JetBlue is dropping their IAD to Florida service but will keep IAD-BOS/JFK and west coast?
That's correct. BOS-IAD will also be dropping in frequency, but there's still a market for the west coast that seems attractive to B6. Once the pull-down is complete, B6 will be operating 2-3x daily IAD-BOS, 2x daily IAD-JFK, and 1x daily each IAD-LGB/OAK.
Username: OB1504
Posted 2012-04-14 20:36:50 and read 1680 times.
Quoting canyonblue17 (Reply 23):
FLL to SFO and LAX are currently served by Virgina AmericaQuoting FSDan (Reply 25):
True. And FLL-LAX also has AA and NK. I don't think they'll be jumping on that one in a hurry.
Edit: Oh, and I forgot B6.
B6 also flies FLL-SFO, and a few miles down I-95, we've got AA on MIA-SFO and DL also on MIA-LAX.
Username: STT757
Posted 2012-04-15 08:15:32 and read 1459 times.
Quoting United787 (Reply 22):
Would anyone dare to call FLL a focus city?
UA definitely has the best digs at FLL. B6 and NK's terminals are lousy.
Username: TOMMY767
Posted 2012-04-15 10:08:49 and read 1391 times.
Quoting canyonblue17 (Reply 23):
I could see FLL-SFO with a 73G or 738 eventually....maybe.
Quoting STT757 (Reply 28):
Plus they got a United Club too that is relatively new.
Username: OB1504
Posted 2012-04-19 22:09:57 and read 1077 times.
Quoting STT757 (Reply 28):
UA definitely has the best digs at FLL. B6 and NK's terminals are lousy.
Agreed. UA flies out of Terminal 1, which opened less than ten years ago, while B6 and NK use the 1980s-era Terminals 3 and 4, respectively. B6 used to fly out of Terminal 1 until they started flying internationally from FLL, which necessitated a move closer to Terminal 4 which is the only terminal that can process international arrivals (Gates H2, H4, H6, H8, H9, and H10) for when the aircraft are towed back, and now they have an entire concourse to themselves.
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