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Topic: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: SA7700
Posted 2012-01-12 11:29:23 and read 69386 times.

This is a continuation thread of part 7 which can be found here: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 7

Please feel free to rejoin the discussion in this thread. Enjoy the forums!  


Regards,

SA7700

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: Laddie
Posted 2012-01-13 12:57:43 and read 68944 times.

The customer-requested slide for the delivery of KAL's first 747-8F (RC541) has been made clear. KAL wants it to coincide with the delivery of a 777 (WF136).

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: A300
Posted 2012-01-13 20:15:04 and read 68724 times.

Would someone please remind me as to when is KAL planning to get the 747-8i?

I am planning to fly KE in May. Thinks look set for an ICN-LAX segment on the A388. Would love to have sector on 747-8i. The latter would be the last stop in my plan to have flown all 747 variants!

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: Laddie
Posted 2012-01-14 08:33:26 and read 68487 times.

Quoting A300 (Reply 2):
Would someone please remind me as to when is KAL planning to get the 747-8i?

The Ascend database says KAL won't take delivery of their first 747-8i until July 2013.

This article from a Seattle newspaper
http://blog.seattlepi.com/aerospace/...ders-five-747-8-intercontinentals/
says KAL will take delivery between May 2013 and May 2015.

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: cosmofly
Posted 2012-01-19 15:55:54 and read 67811 times.

More trouble for the 748i. Tail fuel tank not usable due to flutter.

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...-tanks-on-flutter-concerns-367148/

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: Stitch
Posted 2012-01-19 16:23:53 and read 67748 times.

Quoting cosmofly (Reply 4):
More trouble for the 748i. Tail fuel tank not usable due to flutter.

Looks like it only affects VIP birds, which might not even have planned to use it. LH doesn't plan to use it (at least before a fix) and the fix will be in place before KE and W3 get their birds (assuming they planned to use it).

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: Newark727
Posted 2012-01-19 16:26:42 and read 67728 times.

Have there been any news on the commitments from CA and Hong Kong Airlines recently?

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: BoeingVista
Posted 2012-01-19 17:08:30 and read 67673 times.

Quoting Stitch (Reply 5):
Looks like it only affects VIP birds, which might not even have planned to use it. LH doesn't plan to use it (at least before a fix)

It affects all 747-8I aircraft.

Quoting Stitch (Reply 5):
and the fix will be in place before KE and W3 get their birds (assuming they planned to use it).

You cannot state that with any certainty, Boeing do not have a timeline for the fix as yet.

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: CX747
Posted 2012-01-19 18:46:02 and read 67547 times.

While the fuel tank lock out effects all 747-8I aircraft, airlines will more than likely not have the same issues as VIP customers. The article states;

"when non-fuel payload exceeds 60% of the aircraft's maximum structural payload. The balance of the payload would be fuel stored in the aircraft's wing tanks."

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: Stitch
Posted 2012-01-20 07:47:00 and read 67196 times.

A new thread has been started on the fuel tank issue - 748-I Tailplane Fuel Tanks Excluded From Use (by art Jan 20 2012 in Civil Aviation) - so we can return this thread to production, delivery and flight testing reports.  

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: Laddie
Posted 2012-01-20 10:45:59 and read 67040 times.

Quoting Stitch (Reply 9):
so we can return this thread to production, delivery and flight testing reports.

The snow that fell this week and shut down KPAE didn't seriously affect 747-8 deliveries as there were none scheduled this week. The next delivery should be RC602 to ABC early next week. A C-1 flight is scheduled for today, weather permitting.

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: starrion
Posted 2012-01-20 20:14:56 and read 66798 times.

Should we see an -I delivering to outfitting soon?

They were trying to deliver for 2011, so they are somewhat late..

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: Stitch
Posted 2012-01-21 06:54:06 and read 66596 times.

Quoting starrion (Reply 11):
Should we see an -I delivering to outfitting soon?

Does LH perform their own interior fitting (ala BA), or do they have Boeing do it for them?

If the latter, then indeed we should see their first delivery in the factory to have her interior installed since I believe it's due within two months.

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: kanban
Posted 2012-01-21 10:26:41 and read 66432 times.

Quoting starrion (Reply 11):
Should we see an -I delivering to outfitting soon?

They were trying to deliver for 2011, so they are somewhat late..


They probably have to get that tail tank secured and deactivated so it will be a few weeks. Then it goes to LH for custom outfitting. Hope that have room as most of the BBJ's are headed there. (wonder if the various customers peek at the other interiors and issue change orders to keep up with the latest?)

Quoting Stitch (Reply 12):
Does LH perform their own interior fitting (ala BA), or do they have Boeing do it for them?


I would suspect with all the BBJ work going there, Boeing will install the LH commercial interiors.

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: Stitch
Posted 2012-01-21 11:42:22 and read 66359 times.

Quoting kanban (Reply 13):
I would suspect with all the BBJ work going there, Boeing will install the LH commercial interiors.

Lufthansa Technik is handling at least two of the BBJ out fittings with two more LoIs.

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: starrion
Posted 2012-01-21 14:07:55 and read 66239 times.

I thought the green -I were planned to deliver before the LH ships.

It doesn't seem too logical that the BBJ's would take longer to deliver given that Boring doesn't have to put an interior in

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: Spacepope
Posted 2012-01-21 14:10:16 and read 66233 times.

Quoting Laddie (Reply 10):
The snow that fell this week and shut down KPAE didn't seriously affect 747-8 deliveries as there were none scheduled this week. The next delivery should be RC602 to ABC early next week. A C-1 flight is scheduled for today, weather permitting.

It made 2 flights on the 20th, a rt between PAE and MWH

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...2/history/20120120/1800Z/KPAE/KMWH

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: sweair
Posted 2012-01-21 14:14:46 and read 66228 times.

I read that Germany had a part in the Genx engine along with Volvo FM and CFM of France. How much of the dream liner is from EU?

It´s not the old days of US vs EU anymore..

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: Stitch
Posted 2012-01-21 14:25:40 and read 66207 times.

Quoting sweair (Reply 17):
How much of the dream liner is from EU?

The mid fuselage barrels, the horizontal stabilizer (for the 787-8), the cargo doors, the passenger doors and the landing gear.

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: Laddie
Posted 2012-01-23 07:19:31 and read 65752 times.

How did we get on the subject of the 787? This is a thread about the flight testing and production of the 747-8.

Let's get back on topic, folks.

Danke, merci, gracias, grazie, dank u, takk, tack, спасибо, and thank you.

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: Laddie
Posted 2012-01-23 07:32:59 and read 65730 times.

RC602 should deliver to AirBridgeCargo in the next few days.
Two Intercontinentals should have their first flights this week: RC002 (the VIP airplane) and RC022 (D-ABYA for DLH).

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: starrion
Posted 2012-01-23 11:33:53 and read 65547 times.

Has Boeing published any guidence on how many 748's they expect to deliver this year?

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: someone83
Posted 2012-01-24 00:48:29 and read 65274 times.

Quoting starrion (Reply 21):
Has Boeing published any guidence on how many 748's they expect to deliver this year?

No, but they should say something about it when they release their Q4/2011 earnings report

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: N14AZ
Posted 2012-01-24 00:52:10 and read 65271 times.

Quoting someone83 (Reply 22):
No, but they should say something about it when they release their Q4/2011 earnings report

And when will that be? Last week was not a good week for all VLAs which have a "8" in their type name. So I am looking forward for some better news...

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: someone83
Posted 2012-01-24 00:57:28 and read 65267 times.

Quoting N14AZ (Reply 23):
And when will that be?

Tomorrow. The conference call is starting 10:30 E.T

http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?c=85482&p=irol-calendar

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: someone83
Posted 2012-01-25 05:38:08 and read 65341 times.

Boeing expects to deliver 70-85 747-8 and 787 in total in 2012, with about an even split between the two. So that should mean 35-43 747-8s

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 5MillionMiler
Posted 2012-01-25 21:23:08 and read 64956 times.

Sorry if I missed it in part of the long threads, but when does LH plan to launch 748i service? Summer 2012?

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: wilco737
Posted 2012-01-25 23:08:36 and read 65569 times.

Quoting 5MillionMiler (Reply 26):
Sorry if I missed it in part of the long threads, but when does LH plan to launch 748i service? Summer 2012?

First airplane was due to be delivered end of March 2012. And then starting Service in April, latest May.

The Crews are not yet trained, and training won't start for another 2 months.

At the beginning you don't need many crews as we receive only one airplane in March. More to follow in June, July and September.

wilco737
  

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 5MillionMiler
Posted 2012-01-26 06:57:00 and read 65279 times.

Thanks Wilco!

Looking forward to seeing her in shiny LH livery in person. Photos look amazing.

Hope to get on one in 2012, so hoping it goes to SIN, HKG, IAH, SFO, or ORD as have LH sectors to/from there. IAH would be great but the A380 is nice enough treat for now!

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: kanban
Posted 2012-01-26 14:14:16 and read 65016 times.

Another delivery.. this time to AirBridge Cargo
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Boeing...t-747-8-prnews-2937052018.html?x=0

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: Laddie
Posted 2012-01-26 16:37:36 and read 64900 times.

Quoting someone83 (Reply 25):
So that should mean 35-43 747-8s

The first 747-8 of 2012 was delivered today as RC602/VQ-BLQ was handed over to AirBridgeCargo.

That's one down, 34 more to go this year.

VQ-BLQ's departure date from KPAE is TBD.

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: petera380
Posted 2012-01-27 04:24:48 and read 64626 times.

When did VQ-BGZ have it's first flight?

Thanks.

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: scouseflyer
Posted 2012-01-27 05:02:35 and read 64601 times.

Quoting someone83 (Reply 25):
Boeing expects to deliver 70-85 747-8 and 787 in total in 2012, with about an even split between the two. So that should mean 35-43 747-8s

Wow that's a big chunk of the backlog (a bit more than a third I think) I wonder if Boeing is expecting more orders shortly as the deliveries begin to flow or are they planning to ease the production rate after this initial flurry?

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: Laddie
Posted 2012-01-27 07:39:04 and read 64513 times.

Quoting scouseflyer (Reply 32):
I wonder if Boeing is expecting more orders shortly as the deliveries begin to flow or are they planning to ease the production rate after this initial flurry?

There are 96 747-8s on backlog at the moment, so even at 35/year, that represents almost 3 years of production. But let's see if Boeing can actually achieve a 3/month delivery rate this year.

So Boeing has a couple of years to start bringing in some new orders for the 747-8. Surely in that time the world economy will turn around AND Boeing will solve the weight, drag, fuel burn, and flutter issues with the airplane.

[Edited 2012-01-27 07:43:19]

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-01-27 12:04:31 and read 64337 times.

Quoting someone83 (Reply 25):
Boeing expects to deliver 70-85 747-8 and 787 in total in 2012, with about an even split between the two. So that should mean 35-43 747-8s

At this moment (the end of January) 21 completed, but not yet delivered 747-8 aircraft are available for delivery in 2012.
This airframe count includes 3 unsold aircraft (ex. Atlas Air) and 5 "real" test wired aircraft, that need an extensive refurbishment.

Scheduled assembly is still 1,5 aircraft/month, raising to 2 aircraft/month in mid-2012.

So the total delivery in 2012 could reach 1 (RC602 already delivered), plus 18 (backlog, produced in 2010-2011), plus 19 (to be produced in 2012) = 38 . The total count may even reach 41 if the 3 ex. Atlas aircraft are sold.


If the assembly rate remains at the rate of 2/month, 24 aircraft will be produced in 2013.

[Edited 2012-01-27 12:06:13]

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: petera380
Posted 2012-01-28 03:38:24 and read 63942 times.

So, when did VQ-BGZ have it's first flight? I'm not sure it has been delivered or have it's first flight. There is nothing Puget Sound - Boeing Test Flights page or the Paine Field Blog?

Peter

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: kanban
Posted 2012-01-28 07:54:22 and read 63669 times.

Quoting petera380 (Reply 35):
So, when did VQ-BGZ have it's first flight?

it hasn't

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-01-31 02:37:55 and read 63060 times.

L/N 1439 - 747-8KB , RC002, serial number 37544, BBJ customer Qatar Amiri Flight , registration A7-HHE made its first (B1) flight yesterday (01-30-2012).
This aircraft will probably be the first 747-8 Intercontinental delivery and will be ferried “green” to a customer modification center in February or March.

The second 747-8 Intercontinental delivery will be L/N 1443 - 747-830, RC022, serial number 37827, Lufthansa, D-ABYA, scheduled for end March.

See : http://boeing-test-flights.blogspot....47-8k8-bbj-qatar-amiri-flight.html

For the F/F video, see : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgaXXaS70l4&feature=player_embedded

[Edited 2012-01-31 02:45:09]

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-01-31 08:39:38 and read 62822 times.

After delivery of the first freighter to AirBridgeCargo, the airline will receive two more 747-8HVF aircraft in 2012. The last two ordered (out of a total of 5) will be delivered in 2013.

Scheduled for 2012 are :

L/N 1452 - 747-8HVF, RC603, serial number 37668, , AirBridgeCargo Airlines (ABC) #3, registration VQ-BLR, presently located at FAL slant position #2

And one of the early built 747-8 freighters, that need some refurbishing to delivery status :

L/N 1430 - 747-8HVF, RC601, serial number 37580, AirBridgeCargo Airlines (ABC) #1, future registration VQ-BGZ (Volga Dnepr Group) , full ABC livery, no engines installed, KPAE flight line.

For more background info and some pictures, see : http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/blogs...gScript&plckElementId=blogDest

Attention : The third and last picture of this article, taken at the FAL, displays L/N 1452 (front) and also L/N 1451 (at the back, with dark blue LH rudders), the first picture of RC023, the third DLH Intercontinental (D-ABYC)

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: Laddie
Posted 2012-02-01 12:16:48 and read 62332 times.

RC002 made her B-1 flight on Monday.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...2/history/20120130/2100Z/KPAE/KMWH

All went well, according to reports:

"The first 747-8 Intercontinental scheduled for delivery completed its first production flight on Monday from Paine Field in Everett, Wash.

"Commercial Airplanes pilots Craig Bomben and John Frischkorn conducted the B-1 flight profile that Boeing performs on all production airplanes to confirm the airplane is ready for delivery.

'"The airplane performed very well," said Elizabeth Lund, vice president and general manager of the 747 program. "This is one of the major milestones leading to delivery."

"During the flight, the pilots checked each of the airplane’s systems to ensure the plane is ready to be handed over to the customer. With a successful first flight complete, the airplane will undergo several more tests and a customer flight before it is delivered.

"The first 747-8 Intercontinental is slated to be delivered to an undisclosed VIP customer in the first quarter of this year."

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: sabian404
Posted 2012-02-03 19:40:16 and read 61744 times.

AirBridgeCargo - VQ-BLQ filed to depart to ORD this evening.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/ABW5011

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: Laddie
Posted 2012-02-03 20:20:02 and read 61700 times.

Just heard a big event is planned at the Future of Flight on February 27. Unconfirmed reports that it will be for the delivery of the first Intercontinental (RC002) to a VIP customer. I hope the reports are correct.

Side note: delivery ceremonies at Everett Delivery Center are on hold for a while as the building is soon to be demolished, and a bigger and better Delivery Center built on the spot. Four bays around the EDC are closed to make room for the construction equipment.

[Edited 2012-02-03 20:20:44]

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-02-04 01:04:15 and read 61566 times.

Quoting sabian404 (Reply 40):
AirBridgeCargo - VQ-BLQ filed to depart to ORD this evening.

The aircraft will proceed further to Amsterdam (EHAM/AMS), for the first revenue flight ? Call-sign will be ABW602.

See : http://flightaware.com/live/flight/ABW602

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: sweair
Posted 2012-02-04 02:40:21 and read 61457 times.

I read somewhere that Boeing aims to trim the weight on the 747-8, how would they do this? The design must be very well known and trimmed over the years already? More composites? Engine PIPs will hit the target SFC some day in the future, the biggest problem was 4-3 tons of weight.

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-02-04 04:46:10 and read 61406 times.

Quoting sweair (Reply 43):
I read somewhere that Boeing aims to trim the weight on the 747-8, how would they do this? The design must be very well known and trimmed over the years already? More composites? Engine PIPs will hit the target SFC some day in the future, the biggest problem was 4-3 tons of weight.

Most new aircraft are over-weighted upon introduction. The 747-8 is no exception and has a slightly higher operating empty weight than calculated.

There are two ways to compensate for this issue :
- Identify not 100% loaded parts and if possible replace these parts with newly designed parts with a lower weight.
- Increase the certified maximum structural loads, if possible.

During the certification tests, several flight load survey tests were performed. During these tests the actual flight loads at several aircraft locations were measured and compared with the calculated loads. These flight loads tests were also extended beyond the calculated maximum structural weights. (MTOW,MZFW,MLW).

The first results are already published : the MTOW has been increased from 975.000 lbs to 987.000 to compensate for the increased OEW. Also the MZFW is/will be increased to offer the same maximum structural payload.
During the 747-8 production run several load carrying parts, identified during the flight load survey testing, will also be redesigned, to lower the OEW even further.

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: Stitch
Posted 2012-02-04 05:40:15 and read 61370 times.

Quoting 747classic (Reply 44):
Also the MZFW is/will be increased to offer the same maximum structural payload.


For the 747-8, MZFW rose 9,000 pounds, MSP rose 11,000 pounds and TOW rose 12,000 pounds.

For the 747-8F, Boeing offers two MZFWs: 717,000 pounds at the 978,000 pound TOW and 727,000 pounds at the 990,000 pound TOW. Payload at the lower TOW remains 295,200 pounds and is 306,000 pounds for the 990,000 pound TOW.

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: tdscanuck
Posted 2012-02-04 14:14:15 and read 61045 times.

Quoting sweair (Reply 43):
I read somewhere that Boeing aims to trim the weight on the 747-8, how would they do this? The design must be very well known and trimmed over the years already?

The wing, pylons, and nacelles are all new, so all of those are potential opportunities for weight savings. The empennage is also the same, I think, but since the wing and fuselage are different shapes the tail loads may have changed and, after doing flight load testing, they may have some structural margin back there too.

Tom.

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-02-05 23:43:56 and read 60570 times.

The first 747-8 freighter (HL7609) for Korean Cargo is expected to be delivered at Feb. 6 and will be parked at Kilo North for a delivery ceremony.

This aircraft was original ordered by Guggenheim Aviation Partners, together with 3 sister-ships. She would have been leased by KAL. First the order was reduced to two, later the whole order was cancelled. The two already produced GuAP aircraft were after the cancellation purchased by Korean directly from Boeing.

AFAIK the aircraft is still listed with the GuAP Boeing Customer code "HT" and the original serial number.

Aircraft data :

L/N 1425 - 747-8HTF, RC541, serial number 37132, Guggenheim Aviation Partners (GuAP) NTU, KAL Cargo( #1), full KAL livery, HL7609, selcal code AD-FL, KPAE flight line , F/F Jan-10-2012, expected delivery date Feb-06-2012

Attention, latest info received about the other former GuAP aircraft (L/N1426), still stored (with no engines installed) :
The variable (tabulation) number is now listed as RC546 i.s.o RC542 ???

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: redrooster3
Posted 2012-02-06 13:23:29 and read 60185 times.

Korean Air receives first 747-8, and 777F.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/boe...reighters-to-korean-air-2012-02-06

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-02-06 23:11:31 and read 59822 times.

Here are the first pictures and a video from Matt Cawby's KPAE blog, taken after the delivery ceremony of the first Korean Cargo 747-8F, together with a Korean Cargo 777F :
http://kpae.blogspot.com/2012/02/paine-field-february-6.html

Note ; All stored 787's, in various stages of completion, were removed from parking platform Kilo North before the ceremony.


Original uploaded by flightblogger, see for other sizes : http://www.flickr.com/photos/flightblogger/6830976795/in/photostream

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-02-08 01:25:46 and read 59299 times.

The first Korean Air Cargo 747-8 freighter left the KPAE flight line and becomes the 11th delivered 747-8 aircraft.

RC541 (HL7609) departed Paine Field for a delivery flight to Incheon Intl at February 07.

See : http://boeing-test-flights.blogspot....09-b747-8htf-korean-air-cargo.html
See : http://boeing.flightaware.com/live/flight/KAL28D


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Photo © Royal S King

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-02-08 07:38:56 and read 59140 times.

After moving out of the 45-01 paint hangar at February 05, RC022/D-ABYA, the first airline 747-8 Intercontinental for delivery, is scheduled today for a first (B1) flight .

See the filed flight plan KPAE-KMWH : http://boeing.flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE22

D-ABYA at the KPAE flight line, October 2011

Original uploaded by markh767, see for other sizes : http://www.flickr.com/photos/2806617...6262417216/sizes/m/in/photostream/

The first DLH 747, a 747-130 with the same registation D-ABYA, is shown below. (JFK, August 1971)

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Photo © Art Brett - Photovation Images



[Edited 2012-02-08 07:40:19]

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: EPA001
Posted 2012-02-08 07:42:27 and read 59327 times.

Quoting 747classic (Reply 51):
the first airline 747-8 Intercontinental for delivery, is scheduled today for a first (B1) flight .

That is good news!  

And thank you very much 747classic for posting so much on the latest information here. This keeps us all up to date on the progress in the program. .

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: Laddie
Posted 2012-02-08 07:49:51 and read 59329 times.

Quoting 747classic (Reply 50):
The first Korean Air Cargo 747-8 freighter left the KPAE flight line and becomes the 11th delivered 747-8 aircraft.

Thank you, KAL. May the 777F and 747-8F give you years of great service.

Now we turn our attention to the three 747-8s Boeing hopes to deliver this month.
Feb 27: first 747-8i delivery. Delivery ceremony at the Future of Flight museum.
Feb 27: RC557 (747-8F) to CAT. B-1 flight should be tomorrow or Friday.
Feb 29: RC503 to CLX. This will be the first refurbished flight test airplane to be delivered.

All dates subject to change...to the right.

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-02-09 00:33:27 and read 58977 times.

With the EIS of the first LH 747-8 Intercontinental approaching (late March) a very interesting article about the background of the tail fuel tank deactivation on the 747-8I was published by Guy Norris of Aviation week.

The highlights :

- The 747-8I was certified in December 2011 without the additional 3,300-gal. tail tank fuel capacity because Boeing could not show full compliance with FAA requirements that no structural flutter be present in the airframe after any single failure condition.
- The specific case concerned potential flutter in the event of a failure of the R3 under-wing, mid-spar strut-to-wing fitting, which is one of six connecting the outboard engines to the wing.
- The specific load condition assumes also the full weight of the 3,300 gal. in the tail tank as well as a lot of weight forward.
- Boeing became aware of the situation earlier in 2011 and, because there was no likely impact foreseen to any of the initial customers until at least 2013, made the fix part of its longer-term development schedule.
- The tail tank is not currently required for passenger operations by launch customer Lufthansa. In a nominal 467-seat configuration, with the tank full, the 747-8 exceeds weight limits if it is operated at more than a 60% load factor.
- Because the first 747-8I/BBJ (with a relative low payload) is not expected to be active before 2013 first use the tail tank will not be required before 2013.
- Boeing is at the moment studying several options, ranging from routine checks to minor structural modifications, to reactivate the closed-out tail fuel tank.

See : http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/gener...2/02/08/01.xml&headline=Boeing Outlines 747-8 Fuel Tank Studies

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: N14AZ
Posted 2012-02-09 01:21:02 and read 58884 times.

Thanks for the update as always!

Quoting 747classic (Reply 51):
The first DLH 747, a 747-130 with the same registation D-ABYA, is shown below. (JFK, August 1971)

Cut little engines under the wings....  

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: wilco737
Posted 2012-02-09 02:12:35 and read 58884 times.

Quoting 747classic (Reply 54):

Thanks for that. Even if LH sends the 748i to EZE you hardly ever need the tail tank. Every once in a while we needed it on the 744 when the flight time was pretty long and the loads where high.
I just flew to EZE the other day and we didn't need the tail tank at all. Was still enough margin.

wilco737
  

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: tdscanuck
Posted 2012-02-09 05:57:32 and read 58756 times.

Quoting wilco737 (Reply 56):
Even if LH sends the 748i to EZE you hardly ever need the tail tank. Every once in a while we needed it on the 744 when the flight time was pretty long and the loads where high.

If the loads are high you won't use the tail tank anyway...according to one article that came out when the tail tank deactivation became public, you couldn't use the 747-8 tail tank when above 60% payload anyway.

Tom.

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-02-09 09:39:22 and read 58631 times.

Quoting tdscanuck (Reply 57):
If the loads are high you won't use the tail tank anyway...according to one article that came out when the tail tank deactivation became public, you couldn't use the 747-8 tail tank when above 60% payload anyway

Visualisation of the statement above by the Payload Range Diagram of the 747-8I. (Attention the two parameters shown are OEW plus Payload versus Range.)

747-8I Payload-Range with deactivated tail tank


With a relative high payload (OEW plus payload more than 268 tons) there is no range limitation with a deactivated tail tank.(range is limited by MTOW)
With a lower payload (OEW plus payload lower than 268 tons) there is a range limitation of approx. 300 Nm.

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L/N 1450 - 747-867F, RC557, serial number 39244, Cathay #7, B-LJG is scheduled today for a first (B1) flight from
KPAE to KMWH with call sign BOE557 :
http://boeing.flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE557

[Edited 2012-02-09 09:49:54]

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: mattcawby
Posted 2012-02-09 17:03:24 and read 58391 times.

Quoting 747classic (Reply 58):
L/N 1450 - 747-867F, RC557, serial number 39244, Cathay #7, B-LJG is scheduled today for a first (B1) flight from
KPAE to KMWH with call sign BOE557 :

There was a flight crew on the airplane today but they abandoned ship about 3:00 pm. Maybe tomorrow.

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-02-11 10:17:54 and read 58040 times.

Quoting mattcawby (Reply 59):
There was a flight crew on the airplane today but they abandoned ship about 3:00 pm. Maybe tomorrow.

The third attempt was successful : RC557 is now airborne for the first time, see :
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE557

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: IL96M
Posted 2012-02-11 20:05:39 and read 57872 times.

Greetings from Beijing! Just last night I was sitting in the upper deck of LH's D-AIMG rolling to the runway at FRA when this baby rolled down the runway right next to us. I had to look twice before I realised what it was. Sweet!

http://www.airliners.net/photo/AirBr...lines--/Boeing-747-8HVF/2036650/L/

[Edited 2012-02-11 20:06:26]

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: flood
Posted 2012-02-14 16:30:38 and read 57247 times.

Quoting Laddie (Reply 53):
Feb 27: first 747-8i delivery. Delivery ceremony at the Future of Flight museum.

Confirmed per Boeing on twitter:

"First delivery of 747-8 Intercontinental set for Feb. 27 to VIP customer. Flyaway set for Feb. 28."

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: ANM604
Posted 2012-02-14 21:21:14 and read 57091 times.

It's nice to see Boeing at least delivering the 747-8's according to (somewhat) schedule. Now if only the 787 could gain some traction!

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: Laddie
Posted 2012-02-15 08:35:22 and read 56844 times.

Quoting flood (Reply 62):
Confirmed per Boeing on twitter:

"First delivery of 747-8 Intercontinental set for Feb. 27 to VIP customer. Flyaway set for Feb. 28."

Thanks for passing that along, flood. It's good to have confirmation of the rumor.

CAT is also scheduled to take delivery of another 747-8F on February 27, and a ceremony will be at the Future of Flight on February 25. Perhaps the FoF is the de facto delivery center while the old EDC is torn down and replaced?

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: Spacepope
Posted 2012-02-15 08:55:07 and read 56825 times.

Quoting flood (Reply 62):

Confirmed per Boeing on twitter:

"First delivery of 747-8 Intercontinental set for Feb. 27 to VIP customer. Flyaway set for Feb. 28."

Did this have anything with B748 BOE022 testing last night (actually 3 flights yesterday)?

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE22

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: rotating14
Posted 2012-02-15 20:22:01 and read 56580 times.

Quoting Laddie (Reply 64):

Wasn't CX delaying future 748 deliveries after they recieved their last frame due to slowing demand?

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-02-15 23:44:27 and read 56476 times.

Quoting Spacepope (Reply 65):
First delivery of 747-8 Intercontinental set for Feb. 27 to VIP customer. Flyaway set for Feb. 28."
Did this have anything with B748 BOE022 testing last night (actually 3 flights yesterday)?

Could be, but probably not, because the first delivered aircraft is a 747-8/BBJ aircraft (RC002) and built according a different basic specification (basic number block R8401 and further - in this case R8402) than the test flown BOE022.

BOE22 is the call sign of RC022/D-ABYA, the first airline configured 747-8 Intercontinental, built according basic number block R8001 and further (in this case R8002) and earmarked to become the second delivered 747-8 in March to Lufthansa.


Example : RC003 (variable number) built according basic configuration R8403

Original uploaded by flightblogger, see for other sizes : http://www.flickr.com/photos/flightblogger/5845035401/

For the record : all 747-8F aircraft are built according basicnumber block 8901 and further.

For an explanation of the variable or tabulation number see : http://747world-fleet.info/variable-number.html
For an explanation of the basic number see : http://747world-fleet.info/basic-number.html

Quoting rotating14 (Reply 66):
Wasn't CX delaying future 748 deliveries after they received their last frame due to slowing demand

The last two aircraft (out of an order of 10) will be delivered in 2013 i.s.o. 2012. Actually 4 are delivered in 2011, the next 4 in 2012 and the remaining two in 2013.

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-02-17 23:52:19 and read 56165 times.

Provisional 747-8 Aircraft Production List (Feb -18--2011)

32 Completed airframes, 11 delivered (marked : + )

L/N 1420 - 747-8R7F, RC501, serial number 35808, F/F Feb-08-2010, test aircraft #1, light Boeing livery, test reg. N747EX, Cargolux reg. LX-VCA (LX-ECV-- NTU), selcal code CK-EQ, refurbishment to delivery standard at Lackland AFB, San Antonio.

L/N 1421 - 747-8KZF, RC521, serial number 36136, F/F March-17-2010, test aircraft #2, light Boeing livery, test reg. N5017Q, NCA reg. JA-11KZ, stored at KPAE , with engines removed ,for future refurbishment to delivery standard.

L/N 1422 - 747-8KZF, RC522, serial number 36137, F/F March-14-2010, test aircraft #3, light Boeing livery, test reg. N50217, NCA reg. JA-12KZ, refurbishment to delivery standard at Lackland AFB, San Antonio.

+ L/N 1423 - 747-8R7F, RC502, serial number 35806, F/F Aug-31-2011, full livery, "City of Esch-sur-Alzette", Cargolux reg. LX-VCB (LX-ACV-- NTU), selcal code CK-GQ, Acceptance and Delivery flight (CLX1JS- KSAE-ELLX) date : October-12-2011.

L/N 1424 - 747-8R7F, RC503, serial number 35807, F/F July-22-2010, test aircraft #4, full Cargolux livery, test reg. N5573S, Cargolux reg. LX-VCC (LX-DCV-- NTU), selcal code CL-KQ, refurbished to delivery standard at Lackland AFB, San Antonio,now at KPAE flight line, expected delivery date : Feb-29-2012.

+L/N 1425 - 747-8HTF, RC541, serial number 37132, Guggenheim Aviation Partners (GuAP) NTU, KAL Cargo( #1), full KAL livery, HL7609, selcal code AD-FL , F/F Jan-10-2012, Acceptance date Feb-06-2012, Delivery flight (KAL28D –RKSI/ICN ) date : Feb-07-2012.

L/N 1426 - 747-8HTF, RC546, serial number 37133, Guggenheim Aviation Partners (GuAP) NTU, KAL Cargo (#2), full KAL livery, HL7610, no engines installed, KPAE flight line

+L/N 1427 - 747-867F, RC551, serial number 39238, Cathay #1, registration B-LJA, selcal code CR-HM, special “Hong Kong Trader” livery, F/F November 05-2011, Acceptance and Delivery flight (CPA3337-VHHH) date: November-15-2011.

+L/N 1428 - 747-867F, RC552, serial number 39239, Cathay #2, , registration B-LJB, full livery, F/F November-16-2011, Acceptance and Delivery flight (CPA3337-VHHH) date : November-23-2011.

L/N 1429 - 747-87UF, RC571, serial number 37562, Atlas Air #1 (NTU), painted basic white-dark blue BA colours), KPAE flight line

L/N 1430 - 747-8HVF, RC601, serial number 37580, AirBridgeCargo Airlines (ABC) #1, future registration VQ-BGZ (Volga Dnepr Group) , full ABC livery, no engines installed, KPAE flight line.

L/N 1431 - 747-8KZF, RC523, serial number 36138, F/F Feb-3-2011, test aircraft #5, NCA #3, test registration N6009F, future registration JA13KZ, selcal code FQ-EM, white livery, refurbishment to delivery status at Lackland AFB.

L/N 1432 - 747-87UF, RC572, serial number 37563, Atlas Air #2 (NTU), white livery, KPAE flight line.

L/N 1433 - 747-867F, RC553, serial number 39240, Cathay #3, registration B-LJC, full livery, no engines installed, KPAE flight line.

L/N 1434 - 747-8JK, RC001, serial number 38636, 747-8I test aircraft #1, destined for a BBJ customer (State of Kuwait), test registration N6067E, future registration 9K-GAA, full red-orange “Boeing Sunrise” livery, selcal code CQ-AJ, Official first Intercontinental roll-out ceremony happened at February 13, F/F March 20th, -2011, Refurbishment to delivery status at KPAE.

L/N 1435 - 747-830, RC021, serial number 37826, F/F April-26-2011, 747-8I test aircraft #2, test registration N6067U, Lufthansa #1, selcal code CS-HP, basic LH color scheme, without lettering and LH logo, LH registration D-ABYE, Refurbishment to delivery standard at KPAE.

+ L/N 1436 - 747-8R7F, RC504, serial number 35809, Cargolux #4, full Cargolux livery, named “City of Luxembourg”, registration LX-VCD, selcal code AJ-CM, F/F September-02 -2011, Acceptance and Delivery flight (CLX789-ELLX) date : October 13-2011.

L/N 1437 - 747-87UF, RC573, serial number 37564, Atlas Air #3 (NTU), white livery with both rudders painted in Atlas livery, KPAE flight line.

L/N 1438 - 747-867F, RC554, serial number 39241, Cathay # 4, full livery, registration B-LJD, KPAE flight line.

L/N 1439 - 747-8KB , RC002, serial number 37544, BBJ customer Qatar Amiri Flight , test registration N5022E, registration A7-HHE, white livery, F/F 01-30-2012, expected “green” delivery Feb-27-2012 (First 747-8I delivery), KPAE flight line.

L/N 1440 - 747-8Z5 , RC003, serial number 37500, BBJ customer Abu Dhabi Amiri Flight (Presidential Flight Authority) , white livery, 747-8I test aircraft #3, test registration N5020K, future registration A6-PFA, selcal code MR-DQ , will be delivered "green" in 2012, F/F June 30-2011, KPAE flight line .

+ L/N 1441 - 747-867F, RC555, serial number 39242, Cathay #5 , test registration N1785B, Cathay registration B-LJE, selcal code BF-CS, full livery, F/F Aug-13-2011, Acceptance and Delivery flight (CPA3337-VHHH)date : October-31-2011

+L/N 1442 - 747-87UF, RC574, serial number 37561, Atlas Air #4 , full BA World Cargo livery, G-GSSD, selcal code HL-ZQ, F/F October-21-2011, Acceptance and Delivery flight (GSS7478- EGSS) date : November-03-2011

L/N 1443 - 747-830, RC022, serial number 37827, Lufthansa #2, D-ABYA, full livery, selcal code BR-DA, KPAE flight line

+L/N 1444 - 747-87UF, RC575, serial number 37568, Atlas Air #5, full BA World Cargo livery, G-GSSE, selcal code HM-BQ, F/F November-17-2011, Acceptance date : December-05-2011, Delivery flight (BAW8307-VHHH) date : Dec-19-2011.

+L/N 1445 - 747-87UF, RC576, serial number 37569, Atlas Air #6, full BA World Cargo livery, G-GSSF, selcal code DK-JQ, F/F December-0 5-2011, Acceptance date : December-15-2011, Delivery flight (BAW8307-VHHH) date : Dec-27-2011

L/N 1446 - 747-8JA , RC004, serial number 40065 , BBJ customer : Saudi Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal Bin Abdulaziz Alsaud (Kingdom Holding Company), test registration N458BJ (HZ-HMS1?) will be delivered “green” in 2012, unpainted, KPAE flight line.

+ L/N 1447 - 747-867F, RC556, serial number 39243, Cathay #6 , registration B-LJF, full livery, FAL Roll out date November 2, selcal code DR-EJ, F/F December-01-2011, Acceptance and delivery flight (CPA3337-VHHH)date : December-12-2011.

+L/N 1448 - 747-8HVF, RC 602, serial number 37581, AirBridgeCargo Airlines (ABC) #2, registration VQ-BLQ, selcal code FM-DS, full livery, the last assembled 747-8 aircraft in 2011, F/F December-21-2011, Acceptance date Jan-26-2012. Delivery flight (ABW5011- KORD) date : Feb-03-2012.

L/N 1449 - 747-8KB , RC005, serial number 37075, BBJ customer Qatar Amiri flight , A7-HJA , unpainted, KPAE flight line.

L/N 1450 - 747-867F, RC557, serial number 39244, Cathay #7, future registration B-LJG, KPAE flight line, full livery, selcal code LM-AJ, F/F February-11-2012, expected delivery date Feb-27-2012

L/N 1451 - 747-830, RC023, serial number 37828, , Lufthansa #3, D-ABYC, Everett Building 40-24 for final work.

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At this moment : 4 Airframes at the Final Assembly Line (FAL) at Everett Building 40-22

L/N 1452 - 747-8HVF, RC603, serial number 37668, , AirBridgeCargo Airlines (ABC) #3, registration VQ-BLR, slant position #1, expected FAL roll-out date February 21.

L/N 1453 - 747-830, RC024, serial number 37829, Lufthansa #4 , D-ABYD, slant position #2, expected FAL roll-out date March 14.

L/N 1454 -747-8R7F, RC505, serial number 35810, Cargolux #5, registration LX-VCE, body join position

L/N 1455 - 747-87UF, RC577, Atlas Air #7, wing join position.



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Airframes (18), scheduled for Final Assembly (subject to change).

L/N 1456 - 747-830, RC025, serial number 37830, Lufthansa #5, D-ABYF
L/N 1457 - 747-867F, RC558, serial number 39245, Cathay #8, future registration B-LJH
L/N 1458 - 747-87UF, RC578, serial number -------, Atlas Air #8
L/N 1459 - 747-8XX, RC006, serial number--------, BBJ customer, delivered “green” in 2012.
L/N 1460 - 747-867F, RC559, serial number 39247, Cathay #9, future registration B-LJI
L/N 1461 - 747-8R7F, RC506, serial number 35811, Cargolux#6, registration LX-VCF
L/N 1462 - 747-87UF, RC579, serial number --------, Atlas Air #9
L/N 1463 - 747-8HVF, RC604, Air Bridge Cargo Airlines (ABC) #4
L/N 1464 - 747-867F, RC560, serialnumber 39246?, Cathay 10, future registration B-LJJ
L/N 1465 - 747-8R7F, RC507, Cargolux # 7
L/N 1466 - 747-8XX/BBJ, RC007
L/N 1467 - 747-87UF, RC580, Atlas Air #10
L/N 1468 - 747-8XX/BBJ, RC008
L/N 1469 - 747-8KZF, RC524, serial number 36139, NCA#4, registration JA14KZ
L/N 1470 - 747-830, RC026, serial number 37831, Lufthansa #6, D-ABYG
L/N 1471 - 747-87UF, RC581, Atlas Air #11
L/N 1472 - 747-830, RC027, serial number 37832, Lufthansa #7, D-ABYH
L/N 1473 - 747-8R7F, RC508, Cargolux #8

A-netters : Remarks / Updates / Corrections are highly appreciated for this Provisional listing.

[Edited 2012-02-18 00:27:43]

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: Laddie
Posted 2012-02-22 09:36:24 and read 55372 times.

Boeing announces hand-over of first 747-8i will be on Tuesday, 28 February: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...ing-delivery-idUSL2E8DF07720120215

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-02-23 23:39:01 and read 54871 times.

The next 747-8F will be delivered tomorrow :

Cathay Pacific Cargo 747-8F B-LJG (RC557) and Cathay Pacific Airlines 777 B-KPY will be at Kilo North for a delivery ceremony on February 25 from 10:00 AM - 2:00 PM

See Matt Cawby's KPAE blog : http://kpae.blogspot.com/2012/02/cx-double-delivery.html

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: Laddie
Posted 2012-02-25 08:32:14 and read 54480 times.

Quoting 747classic (Reply 70):
Cathay Pacific Cargo 747-8F B-LJG (RC557) and Cathay Pacific Airlines 777 B-KPY will be at Kilo North for a delivery ceremony on February 25 from 10:00 AM - 2:00 PM

0820 PDT: B-KPY is parked at the FoF. Air stairs with red carpet rolled up to door 1 Right. Security with bomb-sniffing dogs have declared the ramp threat-free, so now B-LJG is being tugged up taxiway A to the FoF.

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-02-27 01:10:12 and read 53995 times.

Here are pictures and some videos of the Feb.25 double CX-delivery of B-KPY (773ER) and B-LJG (748F) :
http://kpae.blogspot.com/2012/02/cathay-pacific-b-kpy-delivery.html

B-LJG was pushed back to the flightline after the ceremony and will be flown to HKG/VHHH later (this week ?).

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-02-27 09:40:12 and read 53621 times.

RC557/B-LJG, the 12th delivered 747-8F, has filed a flight plan for the delivery flight towards HKG/VHHH with call sign CPA3335, see : http://boeing.flightaware.com/live/flight/CPA3335

[Edited 2012-02-27 09:41:26]

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: BlueBus
Posted 2012-02-27 12:24:57 and read 53394 times.

Looks like there is some confirmation that the first 747-8I is going to the Qatar government tomorrow~

http://www.airlinereporter.com/2012/...al-tomorrow-it-might-surprise-you/

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: starrion
Posted 2012-02-27 15:05:11 and read 53200 times.

As Boeing continues to move the later frames out, any ideas when they will go back and start refurbing some of the frames in the 1430's that are sitting without engines?

But they seem to be moving the 747's out a lot better than the 787's-

The KAL and Cathay two-pack deliveries are a nice touch.

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-02-27 23:14:54 and read 52986 times.

Quoting starrion (Reply 75):
As Boeing continues to move the later frames out, any ideas when they will go back and start refurbing some of the frames in the 1430's that are sitting without engines?

It will be a slow process, because a lot of skilled manpower is transferred to the 787 refurbishment program (higher priority). RC503 will be the next of the " older " already completed airframes to be refurbished for delivery.
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The next unpainted 747-8F airframe, emerging from the FAL, is now visible at the flight line :

L/N 1452 - 747-8HVF, RC603, serial number 37668, , AirBridgeCargo Airlines (ABC) #3, registration VQ-BLR,

L/N 1452 - RC603 - VQ-BLR - 747-8HVF

Screenshot of Feb. 27 KPAE flightline video by Matt Cawby.
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The delivery ceremony of RC002/A7-HHE for the Qatari Amiri Flight has been completed , the aircraft will be flown Tuesday to a completion center, see ;
http://kpae.blogspot.com/2012/02/paine-field-february-27.html

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: frigatebird
Posted 2012-02-27 23:39:15 and read 53036 times.

Quoting 747classic (Reply 76):
The delivery ceremony of RC002/A7-HHE for the Qatari Amiri Flight has been completed , the aircraft will be flown Tuesday to a completion center

It will probably take long time to fit all the interior goodies, so we won't see it in service until, I guess, the end of the year?

Is LH's first 747-8 still due for delivery at the end of March? I hope there will be a nice ceremony, at least it will be much better than with the first 747-8F - I don't think anyone would like to think back about that sad story   

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: wilco737
Posted 2012-02-28 00:08:41 and read 52996 times.

Quoting frigatebird (Reply 77):
It will probably take long time to fit all the interior goodies, so we won't see it in service until, I guess, the end of the year?

I guess it will even take longer. I heard something about 1,5 years until she is done.

Quoting frigatebird (Reply 77):
s LH's first 747-8 still due for delivery at the end of March?

Yes, that is at least the latest I know from inside LH. Crew training starts in April, first official commercial flight some time in May.

wilco737
  

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: UA933
Posted 2012-02-28 00:23:56 and read 52981 times.

And from what I heard at LH, FRA-IAD will go daily 747-8 in the summer

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: wilco737
Posted 2012-02-28 00:47:01 and read 52948 times.

Quoting UA933 (Reply 79):
And from what I heard at LH, FRA-IAD will go daily 747-8 in the summer

Rumours, rumours  

Where did you hear it? You work for LH?

wilco737
  

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: na
Posted 2012-02-28 04:40:07 and read 52773 times.

When will Nippon Cargo receive its first 748F?

Quoting BlueBus (Reply 74):
Looks like there is some confirmation that the first 747-8I is going to the Qatar government tomorrow~

Any idea which aircraft that will be? Line-no.1439 or 1449?

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-02-28 06:14:43 and read 52685 times.

Quoting na (Reply 81):
When will Nippon Cargo receive its first 748F?

RC521 and RC522 need a total refurbishment (fully test wired aircraft).
RC521 is still stored at Paine Field, refurbishment has not even started.
RC522 is at Lackland, refurbishment status unk.

RC523 (partial test wired) is also still at Lackland, status unk, but seems to be the first available.

Apparently NCA is not in a hurry to receive the ordered 747-8F aircraft, seen the present cargo situation from/to Japan.

The next NCA aircraft (RC524) scheduled (subject to change) to emerge from the FAL is L/N 1469 (jan-feb 2013 ???)

Quoting na (Reply 81):
Looks like there is some confirmation that the first 747-8I is going to the Qatar government tomorrow~
Any idea which aircraft that will be? Line-no.1439 or 1449?

L/N 1439, RC002, A7-HHE.

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: Laddie
Posted 2012-02-28 07:41:52 and read 52540 times.

Quoting 747classic (Reply 76):
RC503 will be the next of the " older " already completed airframes to be refurbished for delivery.

The completion work has slid a month. Now it is looking like RC503 will be delivered by the end of March 2012.

RC002 flies away around noon today. Boeing presser says it is going to an "undisclosed customer." Undisclosed? Really? I guess the Boeing PR office doesn't read Airliners.net!

[Edited 2012-02-28 07:44:51]

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: na
Posted 2012-02-28 08:12:11 and read 52479 times.

Quoting Laddie (Reply 83):
RC002 flies away around noon today. Boeing presser says it is going to an "undisclosed customer." Undisclosed? Really? I guess the Boeing PR office doesn't read Airliners.net!

Sometimes the public knows more than manufacturer and client like them to know. If Qatar told Boeing not to tell who the owner is, then what can the press guy do, even if he knows that many outside already know? Stupid, but its for real.

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-02-28 10:55:40 and read 52264 times.

On twitter : RC002 will fly to YVR (export) , then to IAB ( Greenpoint Aeroloft installation) and then to Hamburg for the outfitting at Lufthansa Technik.

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: na
Posted 2012-02-28 10:59:48 and read 52241 times.

Quoting 747classic (Reply 85):

On twitter : RC002 will fly to YVR (export) , then to IAB ( Greenpoint Aeroloft installation) and then to Hamburg for the outfitting at Lufthansa Technik.

Thanks for the info.
So LH Technik will be the outfitter. That´s going to be a fantastic plane, I´m sure. I wonder, if it´ll be finished before the end of next year. Outfitting such a big plane can easily take two years.

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: EPA001
Posted 2012-02-28 11:00:35 and read 52241 times.

Quoting 747classic (Reply 85):
and then to Hamburg for the outfitting at Lufthansa Technik.

Great. Since I fly to and from Hamburg on a weekly basis I might get to see the bird pretty soon.  .

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: wilco737
Posted 2012-02-28 11:04:47 and read 52234 times.

Quoting EPA001 (Reply 87):
Great. Since I fly to and from Hamburg on a weekly basis I might get to see the bird pretty soon.  

I guess it will be difficult for you to actually see it. It will be in the hangar for quite some time.

wilco737
  

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: EPA001
Posted 2012-02-28 11:14:18 and read 52195 times.

Quoting wilco737 (Reply 88):
It will be in the hangar for quite some time.

Well, if I land in the right direction I might get a peek when driving by the hangar. There is quite a lot of glass in the doors if I recall correctly.  .

[Edited 2012-02-28 11:15:08]

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: wilco737
Posted 2012-02-28 11:15:21 and read 52209 times.

Quoting EPA001 (Reply 89):
Well, if i land in the right direction I might get a peek when driving by the hangar. There is quite a lot of glass in the doors if I recall correctly.  .

Yeah, if she is parked in that hangar. I keep my fingers crossed for you.

wilco737
  

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: Laddie
Posted 2012-02-28 12:08:43 and read 52103 times.

Quoting 747classic (Reply 85):
On twitter : RC002 will fly to YVR (export) , then to IAB ( Greenpoint Aeroloft installation) and then to Hamburg for the outfitting at Lufthansa Technik.

Amazing. The flight plan isn't even on FlightAware yet.

RC002's ETD is now between 12:30 and 1:00, according to a buddy of mine at Boeing who is watching a webcast being beamed to employees.

[Edited 2012-02-28 12:10:22]

Jon Ostrower is sending out updates from KPAE: http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/fl...irst-747-8-intercontinental-s.html


[Edited 2012-02-28 12:21:21]

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: bikerthai
Posted 2012-02-28 12:11:14 and read 52095 times.

Quoting Laddie (Reply 91):

RC002's ETD is now between 12:30 and 1:00, according to a buddy of mine at Boeing who is watching a webcast being beamed to employees.

So much going on at one time. There is another ceremony for something else down south. I hope the net does not crash.

bt

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: Laddie
Posted 2012-02-28 12:24:49 and read 52056 times.

Quoting bikerthai (Reply 92):
There is another ceremony for something else down south.

A ceremony for the eleventh anniversary of the Nisqually Earthquake? Or something related to aviation?

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-02-28 12:28:29 and read 52071 times.

Many topics are discussed at this moment at the Boeing press conference, here are the highlights :

- The date of first 747-8 delivery to Lufthansa is not officially set, but it rapidly approaching.

- Boeing will deliver eight 747-8 VIP aircraft in 2012

- Boeing's 747-8 performance improvement package (engine and airframe) will fly on the aircraft on 2013 and will bring the aircraft within 1% of the originally planned specification. The airframe weight will be reduced by about 5,000lbs, paired with aerodynamic and General Electric GEnx-2B engine updates (PIP)

- Boeing is also planning to roll out updates to the 747-8's avionics in 2012.

- Boeing is continuing its analysis of the flutter condition found on the 747-8's tail fuel tanks, and aims to have the system reactivated in 2013.

- Lund: “We would love to sell the 747-8 as a replacement for Air Force One.

- FAL rate is already accelerating towards 2 units/month.

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: wilco737
Posted 2012-02-28 12:30:55 and read 52097 times.

Quoting 747classic (Reply 94):
The date of first 747-8 delivery to Lufthansa is not officially set, but it rapidly approaching.

Indeed. Within LH it is still March 31st. But not officially. So we will see if Boeing can hold that date.

Quoting 747classic (Reply 94):
Boeing is continuing its analysis of the flutter condition found on the 747-8's tail fuel tanks, and aims to have the system reactivated in 2013.

Seems to be more complicated than expected.

wilco737
  

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: Laddie
Posted 2012-02-28 12:48:17 and read 52018 times.

12:46 PM : RC002 is taxiing to the active...

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: wilco737
Posted 2012-02-28 12:49:23 and read 52090 times.

Quoting Laddie (Reply 96):
12:46 PM : RC002 is taxiing to the active...

Have a good flight. Good news for the first 748i delivery. even she will not fly for quite some time until the refurbishment is finished.

wilco737
  

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: Laddie
Posted 2012-02-28 13:02:30 and read 52015 times.

Wheels off the ground at 1:01 PM. Have a good flight, Hotel Hotel Echo!

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: squad55
Posted 2012-02-28 13:36:37 and read 51978 times.

A7-HHE has landed at YVR and is taxing to the south Air Canada hanger.

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-02-29 00:52:29 and read 51645 times.

Nice set of pictures of the 747-8I/BBJ delivery and press conference can be seen here :
http://www.flickr.com/photos/airlinereporter/sets/72157629114335600/

Quoting Laddie (Reply 91):
Amazing. The flight plan isn't even on FlightAware yet.

The flightplan/actual flight tracking of RC002 (KPAE-CYVR) is still not displayed (or I couldn'f find it). The call sign of the delivery flight was BOEA7HHE.

And the video from Matt Cawby :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4B720oYsE4&feature=player_embedded

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: kanban
Posted 2012-02-29 08:54:34 and read 51376 times.

may be some new orders coming at the expense of the 787... Hainan is considering swapping to go with 747-8i's.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-0...47-8s-after-delays.html?cmpid=yhoo

really kind of good news for one model and not necessarily bad for the other.

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: Newark727
Posted 2012-02-29 09:39:26 and read 51643 times.

Quoting kanban (Reply 101):
may be some new orders coming at the expense of the 787... Hainan is considering swapping to go with 747-8i's.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-0...47-8s-after-delays.html?cmpid=yhoo

really kind of good news for one model and not necessarily bad for the other.

I thought HNA Group already had a 747-8 order? Or at least unconfirmed intent?

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: na
Posted 2012-02-29 10:10:03 and read 51579 times.

Quoting kanban (Reply 101):

may be some new orders coming at the expense of the 787... Hainan is considering swapping to go with 747-8i's.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-0...47-8s-after-delays.html?cmpid=yhoo
really kind of good news for one model and not necessarily bad for the other.

???

Quoting Newark727 (Reply 102):
I thought HNA Group already had a 747-8 order? Or at least unconfirmed intent?

Last summer it was said its an order pending to be confirmed by the Chinese government, for 10 or 15 748Is. The parallel A380 order has been confirmed last month, I dont know why the 748I order takes so long.

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: rotating14
Posted 2012-02-29 10:25:59 and read 51555 times.

Quoting kanban (Reply 101):

  

I totally agree.

Hello na, what Kaban was saying was that the 787 will lose some more orders but be sure they will regain them from somebody else or from somebody who wants to increase what they have on order as the slots become a premium. And by doing this they get the opportunity to get some more orders funneled into the 748 channel.   

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: USAF336TFS
Posted 2012-02-29 12:02:31 and read 51460 times.

Quoting UA933 (Reply 79):
And from what I heard at LH, FRA-IAD will go daily 747-8 in the summer

I've heard the same rumor. And I've also heard JFK. My guess is that LH400 will eventually be a 747-8i. I hope it's true!


     

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: na
Posted 2012-03-02 03:34:07 and read 50993 times.

Quoting 747classic (Reply 85):

On twitter : RC002 will fly to YVR (export) , then to IAB ( Greenpoint Aeroloft installation) and then to Hamburg for the outfitting at Lufthansa Technik.

skyliner-aviation reports its going to be outfitted at Basel. So what is right?
Btw, it took Basel more than 3 years to outfit the 744 of the Saudi King.

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-03-02 04:33:49 and read 50981 times.

Quoting na (Reply 106):
RC002 will fly to YVR (export) , then to IAB ( Greenpoint Aeroloft installation) and then to Hamburg for the outfitting at Lufthansa Technik.
skyliner-aviation reports its going to be outfitted at Basel. So what is right?

According Flightblogger (Jon Ostrower), Seattle PI, Airline Reporter and Aviation Week (Guy Norris) the cabin will be outfitted in Germany by Lufthansa Technik.

See :
http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/fl...irst-747-8-intercontinental-s.html
http://www.seattlepi.com/business/bo...747-8-Intercontinental-3367137.php
http://www.airlinereporter.com/2012/02/747-8intercontinental-delivery/
http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/gener.../2012/02/29/08.xml&channel=com

But we will see where she is actually heading to, after the installation of the Aeroloft in Wichita.

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-03-08 05:02:38 and read 50246 times.

RC022/D-ABYA has started at March 5 with the completion of the last flights of the final phase of the 747-8 intercontinental flight tests, which are focused on the passenger interior systems and in-flight entertainment electronics and are expected to be completed this week.
See : http://boeing.flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE22

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The final delivery date of the aircraft to Lufthansa has not been set yet, but is still expected around the end of this month .

[Edited 2012-03-08 05:03:32]

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: USAF336TFS
Posted 2012-03-08 05:21:31 and read 50183 times.

Looks like LH will not name this beauty until the last possible moment before handover.

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: wilco737
Posted 2012-03-08 06:07:30 and read 50111 times.

Quoting 747classic (Reply 108):
The final delivery date of the aircraft to Lufthansa has not been set yet, but is still expected around the end of this month .

Yes, within LH it is still end of March, training for the crews in April and first revenue flight some day in May.

Quoting USAF336TFS (Reply 109):
Looks like LH will not name this beauty until the last possible moment before handover.

Or maybe even later when it has arrived in Germany...

wilco737
  

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-03-08 23:30:27 and read 49730 times.

Quoting 747classic (Reply 108):
RC022/D-ABYA has started at March 5 with the completion of the last flights of the final phase of the 747-8 intercontinental flight tests

Update : RC022 received a test-registration during the latest test flights.

Test registration sticker "N5016R" applied , D-ABYA still visible, KPAE, March 8

Original uploaded by Moonm, see for other sizes : http://www.flickr.com/photos/moonm/6820109062/in/photostream

[Edited 2012-03-08 23:31:20]

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-03-09 02:45:49 and read 49574 times.

In the latest 747 Type certificate (rev. 49, dd. 02-29-2012), the following 747-8 aircraft are listed :

747-867F 39238, 39239, 39242-39244,
747-87UF 37561, 37568, 37569
747-8R7F 35806, 35807, 35809
747-8HTF 37132
747-8NVF 37581
747-8KB 37544

See page 36/74 and 56/74 of the following PDF file: http://www.airweb.faa.gov/Regulatory...053c6d4/$FILE/A20WE%20Rev%2049.pdf

Remarks :

The first delivered Korean Air 747-8F is listed as a 747-8HTF (HT = customer code of Guggenheim Aviation Partners) after purchasing the already produced aircraft directly from Boeing, after the cancellation of the GuAP order.
No Korean ( -B5) customer-code is used.

The first delivered aircraft for AirBridgeCargo is listed as a 747-8NVF iso. -8HVF (HV = customer code of the parent organisation Volga Dnepr.) Is this a typo or a new Boeing customer-code for ABC ????
Up to now in all publications this aircraft was listed as a 747-8HVF,see ;
http://boeing-test-flights.blogspot....lq-b747-8hvf-air-bridge-cargo.html

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: cz346
Posted 2012-03-09 04:43:16 and read 49457 times.

Guys, please forgive me for asking such a basic question. I've read the entire thread and cannot find information.

I'll be in HKG this weekend staying at SkyCity Marriott. Is there anywhere to see a 748 schedule (departing) so I can finally see one? I'm in and out of HKG once a week (I go back to NYC on the weekends - lovely right?) and have always hung out on the executive level balcony but I never see one. If anyone could help me out, would be much appreciated  

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-03-12 05:38:11 and read 48932 times.

Sorry, I am unable to provide you with an accurate 744/748F schedule from Cathay Pacific Cargo.
Perhaps you can track a 747-8 inbound US airspace from HKG or back with this this link or another tracking site. :
http://boeing.flightaware.com/live/aircrafttype/B748

Note : Pictures of a Photo Flight of the last (up to now) delivered 747-867F (L/N1450, B-LJG) to Cathay can be seen at Matt Cawby's KPAE blog :
http://kpae.blogspot.com/2012/03/cat...ific-cargo-b-ljg-photo-flight.html

[Edited 2012-03-12 05:39:37]

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-03-12 09:08:55 and read 48760 times.

RC503 made it's first test flight on Sunday (March 11) after refurbishment to delivery standard.
This aircraft will be the first former 747-8F test aircraft to be delivered, see :
http://boeing.flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE503

Full aircraft data :
L/N 1424 - 747-8R7F, RC503, serial number 35807, F/F July-22-2010, test aircraft #4, full Cargolux livery, test reg. N5573S, Cargolux reg. LX-VCC (LX-DCV-- NTU), selcal code CL-KQ, after quiting the test program flown to Lackland AFB, San Antonio, flown back to Paine Field at Dec-18-2011, expected delivery date : March-??-2012.

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: Cargolex
Posted 2012-03-12 09:18:47 and read 48720 times.

Quoting 747classic (Reply 115):
Cargolux reg. LX-VCC

Has the test registration been removed?

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-03-16 09:29:08 and read 48103 times.

Jim Albaugh, Boeing Commercial Airplanes (BCA) president & chief executive, speaking at the JP Morgan Aviation, Transportation & Defence conference :

747-8 highlights :

- We should deliver the first passenger airplane to Lufthansa sometime early next month.

- The dispatch reliability of this airplane is about 97% and compares very favourably to the 747-400 freighters that have been flying in the fleet for years.

- We have a lot of interest in the 747-8 and we’ll be announcing some orders I think over the next several months.

- And I would anticipate over the next several months we’ll see some orders announced by customers for the 747-8 freighter.

See for more highlights of other Boeing aircraft : http://www.aspireaviation.com/2012/0...ion-defense-conference-highlights/

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-03-16 22:47:58 and read 47685 times.

RC603/VQ-BLR, the next 747-8 freighter for AirBridgeCargo, performed a first (B1)flight fom Paine Field towards Moses Lake and back again at March 16, see : http://boeing.flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE603 and :
http://boeing-test-flights.blogspot....7-8hvf-air-bridge-cargo-first.html

L/N 1452 - 747-8HVF, RC603, serial number 37668, VQ-BLR, during taxi testing, KPAE, March-15-2012.

Original uploaded by Moonm, for other sizes, see : http://www.flickr.com/photos/moonm/6986174537/in/photostream

[Edited 2012-03-16 23:31:40]

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: wilco737
Posted 2012-03-16 22:50:24 and read 47706 times.

Quoting 747classic (Reply 117):
We have a lot of interest in the 747-8 and we’ll be announcing some orders I think over the next several months.

That sounds promising. I guess some airlines wait until Boeing has a fix for the tail tank issue or wait until LH operates its first to see if they are happy with them.

wilco737
  

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: Stitch
Posted 2012-03-16 22:55:36 and read 47705 times.

Quoting wilco737 (Reply 119):
That sounds promising. I guess some airlines wait until Boeing has a fix for the tail tank issue or wait until LH operates its first to see if they are happy with them.

Could also be that Boeing has shown they can actually deliver them on a regular basis, so confidence on when an order would be fulfilled is probably higher now.  

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: wilco737
Posted 2012-03-16 22:57:47 and read 47707 times.

Quoting Stitch (Reply 120):
Could also be that Boeing has shown they can actually deliver them on a regular basis, so confidence on when an order would be fulfilled is probably higher now.  

Could be as well. But the economy is going downhill at the moment, so many airlines don't want to invest that much money right now and don't even need the upgrade in seats.
But I hope more airlines order the 748i, she is simply beautiful.   

wilco737
  

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 5MillionMiler
Posted 2012-03-16 23:57:50 and read 47633 times.

It is a beautiful airplane, and I hope there are many of the 748is. Very much looking forward to seeing (Riding!) Lufthansa's.

Wilco, is the flight deck pretty much the same as the 744, or a lot of new training?

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: wilco737
Posted 2012-03-17 00:07:35 and read 47647 times.

Quoting 5MillionMiler (Reply 122):
Wilco, is the flight deck pretty much the same as the 744, or a lot of new training?

It is pretty much the same, a couple different instruments, couple buttons are missing, couple buttons added. Training at LH will take 5 days and then you are fine to fly 744 and 748 

wilco737
  

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-03-18 10:17:43 and read 47067 times.

Here is a picture of the first flight of RC603/VQ-BLR . Before this flight the following test registration was applied (by decal) : N1788B

Landing At Paine Field, March-16-2012.

Original uploaded by ImperfectSense. For other sizes, see : http://www.flickr.com/photos/imperfectsense/6991963101/in/photostream



[Edited 2012-03-18 10:30:11]

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: na
Posted 2012-03-19 07:25:08 and read 46462 times.

Quoting 747classic (Reply 117):
- We have a lot of interest in the 747-8 and we’ll be announcing some orders I think over the next several months.

- And I would anticipate over the next several months we’ll see some orders announced by customers for the 747-8 freighter.

That sounds very good, better than in years. Even if not every one he´s hoping for might materialize, now that the two types are certified and the freighter is doing well in service, I am sure some customers who have waited so far will come forward. Some orders for both 748 types in the next months, now that would be the best news the aviation world can hold for me this year.

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-03-22 08:35:40 and read 45852 times.

I got some new data about a not yet identified 747-8I/BBJ :

747-8LQ, serial number 41060, (test)registration N455BJ

Anybody any thoughts about the Customercode LQ ?

Could this be the next unknown 747-8I/BBJ : L/N 1459, RC006 ?

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: SEPilot
Posted 2012-03-22 08:45:23 and read 46231 times.

All of this talk of new 748 orders is overlooking one important point. The 748F future I think is fairly secure; it is not threatened by any new aircraft being discussed. But the 748i is definitely threatened by the 777X project; if the gains projected for it materialize, won't it offer a lower CASM than the 748i, just as much range, and better cargo capacity with only 50 or so fewer seats? As I see it, this will really make it difficult to sell the 748i. If it cannot offer lower CASM than the next smaller plane there is really little reason to buy it.

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: na
Posted 2012-03-22 08:56:53 and read 46195 times.

Quoting SEPilot (Reply 127):
All of this talk of new 748 orders is overlooking one important point. The 748F future I think is fairly secure; it is not threatened by any new aircraft being discussed.

The 748F will have no competition for a very long time, likely not before 2025, maybe not even before the late 20s (when I expect an all-new new Boeing VLA the latest, even if a 777X is built). So roughly 150 748F orders more in the longer term should be realistic.

Quoting SEPilot (Reply 127):
But the 748i is definitely threatened by the 777X project; if the gains projected for it materialize, won't it offer a lower CASM than the 748i, just as much range, and better cargo capacity with only 50 or so fewer seats? As I see it, this will really make it difficult to sell the 748i. If it cannot offer lower CASM than the next smaller plane there is really little reason to buy it.

Well, the 777X, if it flies, will not be in service before 2020 if being realistic. That is 8 years. With your logic no one would buy 77Ws today because in 4 years it´ll be beaten by the A350-1000 and now the 748I offers lower costs per pax. I admit the 748I market is small, the upper end eaten by the A380, the lower by the 77W, but I think its not too optimistic to expect 50+ to be ordered over the next 5 years.

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: jet-lagged
Posted 2012-03-22 09:48:01 and read 46116 times.

Quoting na (Reply 128):
but I think its not too optimistic to expect 50+ to be ordered over the next 5 years.

Roughly one a month. If they can make $20M in profit on each, that's $1B - pretty good money. I don't see where they will get the orders from . . . . but I hope they do.

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: SEPilot
Posted 2012-03-22 09:59:11 and read 46098 times.

Quoting na (Reply 128):
I admit the 748I market is small, the upper end eaten by the A380, the lower by the 77W, but I think its not too optimistic to expect 50+ to be ordered over the next 5 years.

You have a point, but I am less optimistic. I do expect a few, but I think that most will order 77W's or A380's instead. Once the 777X is available I think the 748i will be as dead as the A346    .

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: someone83
Posted 2012-03-23 05:32:33 and read 45672 times.

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...3-april-for-747-8-delivery-369867/

Lufthansa expects first delivery 23. April

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: na
Posted 2012-03-23 06:03:03 and read 45650 times.

Quoting SEPilot (Reply 130):
Once the 777X is available I think the 748i will be as dead as the A346

Even the largest 777 possible will still be smaller than the 748I. With your logic a lean A350-1000 should kill the 777X anyway as it will likely offer lower costs at only slightly smaller size. The size difference between A350-1000 and the 77X will be smaller than between 777X and 748I.

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: na
Posted 2012-03-23 06:15:18 and read 45637 times.

Which will be the next 748s to be delivered. I assume the second freighter for Korean Air will be due soon. What about Cathay´s B-LJC, or Cargolux´ LX-VCC, which should have been delivered by now? The early-built freighters seem to be pretty slow in final preparations and generally, deliveries have been slow so far this year.

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-03-23 07:51:11 and read 45528 times.

Quoting na (Reply 133):
Which will be the next 748s to be delivered. I assume the second freighter for Korean Air will be due soon. What about Cathay´s B-LJC, or Cargolux´ LX-VCC, which should have been delivered by now? The early-built freighters seem to be pretty slow in final preparations and generally, deliveries have been slow so far this year.

Boeing continues to deliver the frames, that presently are emerging from the FAL, ASAP. The first to be delivered (hopefully before the end of this month) seems to be LN1452/RC603/VQ-BLR, the second delivery for AirBridgeCargo.

However the refurbishment of the early built frames will be a slow process, because a lot of skilled manpower is transferred to the 787 refurbishment program (higher priority).
LN1424/RC503/LX-VCC will be the next of the " older " already completed airframes , that is refurbished for delivery. Several Boeing pre delivery test flights have been already completed at this airframe.Delivery is/was also scheduled for late March.
The second airframe for Korean Air is still parked at PAE with no engines installed AFAIK.
The third produced for Cathay (B-LJC) seems to be parked in the same condition.

[Edited 2012-03-23 07:54:46]

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: wilco737
Posted 2012-03-23 15:31:43 and read 45257 times.

Quoting someone83 (Reply 131):
http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...3-april-for-747-8-delivery-369867/

Lufthansa expects first delivery 23. April

Wow, that late? That is almost another month later than expected.

Will be interesting at what date they start their first flight. Crew training for 748i starts intensively in April.

wilco737
  

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-03-24 02:55:25 and read 44937 times.

RC503/LX-VCC has been delivered to Cargolux at March 23 :
http://boeing-test-flights.blogspot....-b747-8r7f-cargolux-delivered.html

The delivery flight is flown from Paine Field to Luxembourg via Seattle -Tacoma and Calgary (KPAE-KSEA-CYYC-ELLX) with call sign CLX789 :
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/CLX789.

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-03-24 12:09:02 and read 44669 times.

RC503/LX-VCC, Named : City of Ettelbruck, KPAE, March 23.


Original uploaded by Vintage Racer, for other (larger) sizes see : http://www.flickr.com/photos/vintage_racer/6864798864/

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-03-31 01:54:11 and read 43986 times.

A new 747-8I aircraft for Lufthansa emerged on the Everett flight line (spotted on the March 30 flight line picture of Matt Cawby)

Unpainted LH 747-8I, KPAE, March 30 2012

Original uploaded by Matt Cawby, see for complete flight line picture : http://paineairport.com/images/fl033012.jpg

Probably the unpainted aircraft is L/N 1453 - 747-830, RC024, serial number 37829, Lufthansa #4 , D-ABYD.

AFAIK L/N 1451 - 747-830, RC023, serial number 37828, , Lufthansa #3, D-ABYC is still in building 40-24.
But it's also possible that both aircraft have interchanged their positions.

The first Lufthansa 747-8I (D-ABYA) will be delivered around April 23, according LH technik, see :
http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/fl...ulles-pegged-as-lufthansas-fi.html

For the technical interested readers : Boeing Aero released an article about the design of the new Environmental Control System (ECS) installed in the 747-8 series, replacing the conventional airconditioning system installed in the previous 747 series. : http://www.boeing.com/commercial/aer...2_q1/pdfs/AERO_2012q1_article4.pdf

[Edited 2012-03-31 02:11:32]

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-04-01 12:01:08 and read 43371 times.

The next 747-8I BBJ made its first (B1) flight yesterday (March 31).

Aircraft data : L/N 1449 - 747-8KB , RC005, serial number 37075, BBJ customer Qatar Amiri flight, leased from Lewiston Investments, A7-HJA , selcal CE-JM, white livery, F/F March-31-2012, KPAE flight line.

See for pictures Matt Cawby's blog : http://kpae.blogspot.com/2012/03/paine-field-march-31.html
and Puget Sound blog : http://boeing-test-flights.blogspot....47-8k8-bbj-qatar-amiri-flight.html

Flight tracking : http://boeing.flightaware.com/live/f...5/history/20120331/1800Z/KPAE/KMWH

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: Laddie
Posted 2012-04-02 10:55:17 and read 42964 times.

Quoting 747classic (Reply 138):

AFAIK L/N 1451 - 747-830, RC023, serial number 37828, , Lufthansa #3, D-ABYC is still in building 40-24.

Yes, she is (as of 2 April). She is due to roll out to the flight line on April 15. Then 1453 takes her place in the 40-24.

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: Someone83
Posted 2012-04-02 11:16:07 and read 42944 times.

Quoting 747classic (Reply 118):
L/N 1452 - 747-8HVF, RC603, serial number 37668, VQ-BLR, during taxi testing, KPAE, March-15-2012

Now delivered according to Boeing. Although I'm not sure about the official delivery date and whether it was a March or April delivery

http://boeing.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=2194

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: SEPilot
Posted 2012-04-02 16:16:05 and read 42707 times.

Quoting na (Reply 132):
Quoting SEPilot (Reply 130):
Once the 777X is available I think the 748i will be as dead as the A346

Even the largest 777 possible will still be smaller than the 748I.

Size is desirable in an airliner only if it gives better economics. If a smaller airliner has a lower CASM why on earth would anyone buy the larger one? You can fly greater frequencies with smaller planes, make more money, offer lower fares, and be better situated to tailor your capacity to demand and keep your planes full with the smaller planes. The only advantage the large one would have would be flying into slot-restricted airports, and there just aren't that many of those. There are no passengers that will not fit on a 777 that will fit on a 747 that I know of. Cargo is a different story; the 748F would still have some advantage over the 777F in carrying outsize cargo. But even there if the 777F offers lower costs it will get the bulk of the orders.

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: na
Posted 2012-04-03 01:12:29 and read 42661 times.

Quoting SEPilot (Reply 142):
If a smaller airliner has a lower CASM why on earth would anyone buy the larger one?

Vice Versa: if a bigger plane offers lower costs (A380) vs. a smaller one (77W), and you can fill an A380, why on earth should you buy the smaller one (this goes out to the likes of ANA or JAL, and others). Smaller planes also mean more crews, and an additional flightcrew of a big plane easily costs 500.000$ a month.

Quoting wilco737 (Reply 135):
Wow, that late? That is almost another month later than expected.

I heard untrained workers at Boeing have massively damaged/scratched the LH-specific interiors of the first plane when they removed them after inspection to make room to "lay the final cables". New furniture has to be made and built in.

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-04-03 03:09:28 and read 42440 times.

Quoting na (Reply 143):
I heard untrained workers at Boeing have massively damaged/scratched the LH-specific interiors of the first plane when they removed them after inspection to make room to "lay the final cables". New furniture has to be made and built in.

IMO this is another example of the financial and/or PR damage to the 747-8 program, caused by the continuous drain of resources towards the 787 program.
A lot of the skilled/ experienced 747-8 workers must have been transferred to the massive 787 refurbishment program to modify the first 60+ produced airframes to delivery status.
Newly hired/less experienced workers are now employed at the 747-8 delivery refurbishment program.
Hopefully this time the extra costs will be added to the 787 business case (source of the problems) and not again counted as additional losses for the 747-8 business case.

[Edited 2012-04-03 03:10:29]

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: USAF336TFS
Posted 2012-04-03 04:12:27 and read 42333 times.

Quoting 747classic (Reply 144):
IMO this is another example of the financial and/or PR damage to the 747-8 program, caused by the continuous drain of resources towards the 787 program.

I usually agree with you on most occasions, but on this one, I couldn't disagree with you more.
Other then on the A.net forums between us "things with wings" geeks, no one will even notice this when looking at the 747-8 in total. As far as the money concerned, I'm sure whatever Boeing paid for the necessary repairs pales in comparison to their desire to get this bird, of all to be delivered, out as soon as possible. The perception that his aircraft begins a new chapter in the evolution of the 747 is perhaps the most important.

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-04-03 08:03:36 and read 42154 times.

Quoting Someone83 (Reply 141):
L/N 1452 - 747-8HVF, RC603, serial number 37668, VQ-BLR, during taxi testing, KPAE, March-15-2012
Now delivered according to Boeing. Although I'm not sure about the official delivery date and whether it was a March or April delivery

According the AirBridgeCargo website delivery of the second 747-8F for ABC actual took place at March 30.
http://www.airbridgecargo.com/resources/images/fornews/boeing%202nd%20aircraft%20-2.jpg
@AirBridgeCargo

See : http://www.airbridgecargo.com/press/news/950.html

However up to now NO delivery flight out of KPAE has been observed (FlightAware)

[Edited 2012-04-03 08:25:20]

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: kanban
Posted 2012-04-03 16:33:18 and read 41909 times.

It is reported that the 747-8 can now serve 200 of the 240 airports customers have identified. In contrast the A380 is limited to 60.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/boeing...47-8-approved-serve-205900770.html

One wonders how soon the other 40 will be certified and whether Airbus is working to extend their airport base.

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: SEPilot
Posted 2012-04-03 17:03:11 and read 41859 times.

Quoting na (Reply 143):
Vice Versa: if a bigger plane offers lower costs (A380) vs. a smaller one (77W), and you can fill an A380, why on earth should you buy the smaller one (this goes out to the likes of ANA or JAL, and others). Smaller planes also mean more crews, and an additional flightcrew of a big plane easily costs 500.000$ a month.

This has been the primary reason for buying a bigger plane; lower per seat costs. But if it has higher per seat costs, the primary reason for buying the bigger plane disappears. And costs are figured with crew costs included, so that is not an issue.

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: Laddie
Posted 2012-04-04 08:22:40 and read 41471 times.

Quoting 747classic (Reply 146):
However up to now NO delivery flight out of KPAE has been observed (FlightAware)

Yes, RC603 is still parked in the SE corner of the Paine Field flight line. She is scheduled to fly out tonight. ETD is 1900 PDT.

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-04-05 00:31:51 and read 41168 times.

Quoting Laddie (Reply 149):
RC603 is still parked in the SE corner of the Paine Field flight line. She is scheduled to fly out tonight.

RC603 is delivered to AirBridgeCargo. The delivery flight, with call-sign ABW4011 was operated from Paine field (KPAE) to Chicago (KORD), see :
http://boeing.flightaware.com/live/flight/ABW4011
and :
http://boeing-test-flights.blogspot....lr-b747-8hvf-air-bridge-cargo.html

Full aircraft data :

L/N 1452 - 747-8HVF, RC603, serial number 37668, , AirBridgeCargo Airlines (ABC) #3, test reg. N1788B, registration VQ-BLR, selcal code DK-FS, F/F March-16-2012, Acceptance date : March-30-2012, Delivery flight (ABW4011-KORD) date : April 04-2012.


Remark : the first assembled ABC freighter, one of the early produced airframes ( L/N 1430 - 747-8HVF, RC601, serial number 37580, AirBridgeCargo Airlines (ABC) #1, registration VQ-BGZ) is still parked at the KPAE flight line without engines.

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: SQ22
Posted 2012-04-06 11:25:36 and read 40765 times.

Today I read this on my way to FRA:

http://www.lhm-lounge.de/lh_1204_interkonti/lh_1204_inter_doppel.pdf

In the pdf-file its beginning at page 34 (in the printed version its 68). At page 6 (11) the CEO said a few words about the new Jumbo. Its bilingual, German and English. Hope some will like it.

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: Someone83
Posted 2012-04-12 03:07:07 and read 40430 times.

Which and when are the next F model likely to be delivered?

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-04-12 06:43:23 and read 40426 times.

Provisional 747-8 Aircraft Production List (April -12--2011)

34 Completed airframes, 15 delivered (marked : + )

L/N 1420 - 747-8R7F, RC501, serial number 35808, F/F Feb-08-2010, test aircraft #1, light Boeing livery, test reg. N747EX, Cargolux reg. LX-VCA (LX-ECV-- NTU), selcal code CK-EQ, refurbishment to delivery standard at Lackland AFB, San Antonio.

L/N 1421 - 747-8KZF, RC521, serial number 36136, F/F March-17-2010, test aircraft #2, light Boeing livery, test reg. N5017Q, NCA reg. JA-11KZ, stored at KPAE , for refurbishment to delivery standard.

L/N 1422 - 747-8KZF, RC522, serial number 36137, F/F March-14-2010, test aircraft #3, light Boeing livery, test reg. N50217, NCA reg. JA-12KZ, refurbishment to delivery standard at Lackland AFB, San Antonio.

+ L/N 1423 - 747-8R7F, RC502, serial number 35806, F/F Aug-31-2011, full livery, "City of Esch-sur-Alzette", Cargolux reg. LX-VCB (LX-ACV-- NTU), selcal code CK-GQ, Acceptance and Delivery flight (CLX1JS- KSAE-ELLX) date : October-12-2011.

+L/N 1424 - 747-8R7F, RC503, serial number 35807, F/F July-22-2010, test aircraft #4, full livery,”City of Ettelbruck”, test reg. N5573S, Cargolux reg. LX-VCC (LX-DCV-- NTU), selcal code CL-KQ, Acceptance and delivery flight (CLX789-KSEA-CYYC-ELLX) date: March-23-2012.

+L/N 1425 - 747-8HTF, RC541, serial number 37132, Guggenheim Aviation Partners (GuAP) NTU, KAL Cargo( #1), full KAL livery, HL7609, selcal code AD-FL , F/F Jan-10-2012, Acceptance date Feb-06-2012, Delivery flight (KAL28D –RKSI/ICN ) date : Feb-07-2012.

L/N 1426 - 747-8HTF, RC546, serial number 37133, Guggenheim Aviation Partners (GuAP) NTU, KAL Cargo (#2), full KAL livery, HL7610, no engines installed, KPAE flight line

+L/N 1427 - 747-867F, RC551, serial number 39238, Cathay #1, registration B-LJA, selcal code CR-HM, special “Hong Kong Trader” livery, F/F November 05-2011, Acceptance and Delivery flight (CPA3337-VHHH) date: November-15-2011.

+L/N 1428 - 747-867F, RC552, serial number 39239, Cathay #2, , registration B-LJB, full livery, F/F November-16-2011, Acceptance and Delivery flight (CPA3337-VHHH) date : November-23-2011.

L/N 1429 - 747-87UF, RC571, serial number 37562, Atlas Air #1 (NTU), painted basic white-dark blue BA colours), KPAE flight line

L/N 1430 - 747-8HVF, RC601, serial number 37580, AirBridgeCargo Airlines (ABC) #1, future registration VQ-BGZ (Volga Dnepr Group) , full ABC livery, no engines installed, KPAE flight line.

L/N 1431 - 747-8KZF, RC523, serial number 36138, F/F Feb-3-2011, test aircraft #5, NCA #3, test registration N6009F, future registration JA13KZ, selcal code FQ-EM, white livery, refurbishment to delivery status at Lackland AFB.

L/N 1432 - 747-87UF, RC572, serial number 37563, Atlas Air #2 (NTU), white livery, KPAE flight line.

L/N 1433 - 747-867F, RC553, serial number 39240, Cathay #3, registration B-LJC, full livery, no engines installed, KPAE flight line.

L/N 1434 - 747-8JK, RC001, serial number 38636, 747-8I test aircraft #1, destined for a BBJ customer (State of Kuwait), test registration N6067E, future registration 9K-GAA, full red-orange “Boeing Sunrise” livery, selcal code CQ-AJ, Official first Intercontinental roll-out ceremony happened at February 13, F/F March 20th, -2011, stored, with engines removed, for refurbishment to delivery status at KPAE.

L/N 1435 - 747-830, RC021, serial number 37826, F/F April-26-2011, 747-8I test aircraft #2, test registration N6067U, Lufthansa #1, selcal code CS-HP, basic LH color scheme, without lettering and LH logo, LH registration D-ABYE, Refurbishment to delivery standard at KPAE.

+ L/N 1436 - 747-8R7F, RC504, serial number 35809, Cargolux #4, full Cargolux livery, named “City of Luxembourg”, registration LX-VCD, selcal code AJ-CM, F/F September-02 -2011, Acceptance and Delivery flight (CLX789-ELLX) date : October 13-2011.

L/N 1437 - 747-87UF, RC573, serial number 37564, Atlas Air #3 (NTU), white livery with both rudders painted in Atlas livery, KPAE flight line.

L/N 1438 - 747-867F, RC554, serial number 39241, Cathay # 4, full livery, registration B-LJD, KPAE flight line.

+L/N 1439 - 747-8KB , RC002, serial number 37544, BBJ customer Qatar Amiri Flight , test registration N5022E, registration A7-HHE, white livery, F/F Jan-30-2012, Acceptance date Feb-27-2012, “Green” Delivery flight (A7HHE-CYVR) date Feb-28-2012. First Aeroloft installation at Boeing Global Transport & Executive Systems (GTES) in Wichita, Kansas, thereafter cabin outfitting at Lufthansa Technik in Hamburg, Germany. Total outfitting time is expected to exceed 24 months.

L/N 1440 - 747-8Z5 , RC003, serial number 37500, BBJ customer Abu Dhabi Amiri Flight (Presidential Flight Authority) , white livery, 747-8I test aircraft #3, test registration N5020K, future registration A6-PFA, selcal code MR-DQ , will be delivered "green" in 2012, F/F June 30-2011, KPAE flight line .

+ L/N 1441 - 747-867F, RC555, serial number 39242, Cathay #5 , test registration N1785B, Cathay registration B-LJE, selcal code BF-CS, full livery, F/F Aug-13-2011, Acceptance and Delivery flight (CPA3337-VHHH)date : October-31-2011

+L/N 1442 - 747-87UF, RC574, serial number 37561, Atlas Air #4 , full BA World Cargo livery, G-GSSD, selcal code HL-ZQ, F/F October-21-2011, Acceptance and Delivery flight (GSS7478- EGSS) date : November-03-2011

L/N 1443 - 747-830, RC022, serial number 37827, Lufthansa #2, test registration N5016R, LH registration D-ABYA, full livery, selcal code BR-DA, F/F Feb-08-2012, KPAE flight line, will be delivered at end of this month as "first airline"
747-8 Intercontinental.

+L/N 1444 - 747-87UF, RC575, serial number 37568, Atlas Air #5, full BA World Cargo livery, G-GSSE, selcal code HM-BQ, F/F November-17-2011, Acceptance date : December-05-2011, Delivery flight (BAW8307-VHHH) date : Dec-19-2011.

+L/N 1445 - 747-87UF, RC576, serial number 37569, Atlas Air #6, full BA World Cargo livery, G-GSSF, selcal code DK-JQ, F/F December-0 5-2011, Acceptance date : December-15-2011, Delivery flight (BAW8307-VHHH) date : Dec-27-2011

L/N 1446 - 747-8JA , RC004, serial number 40065 , BBJ customer : Saudi Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal Bin Abdulaziz Alsaud (Kingdom Holding Company), test registration N458BJ (HZ-HMS1?) will be delivered “green” in 2012, unpainted, KPAE flight line.

+ L/N 1447 - 747-867F, RC556, serial number 39243, Cathay #6 , registration B-LJF, full livery, FAL Roll out date November 2, selcal code DR-EJ, F/F December-01-2011, Acceptance and delivery flight (CPA3337-VHHH)date : December-12-2011.

+L/N 1448 - 747-8HVF, RC 602, serial number 37581, AirBridgeCargo Airlines (ABC) #2, registration VQ-BLQ, selcal code FM-DS, full livery, the last assembled 747-8 aircraft in 2011, F/F December-21-2011, Acceptance date Jan-26-2012. Delivery flight (ABW5011- KORD) date : Feb-03-2012.

L/N 1449 - 747-8KB , RC005, serial number 37075, BBJ customer Qatar Amiri flight, leased from Lewiston Investments, A7-HJA , selcal CE-JM, white livery, F/F March-31-2012, KPAE flight line.

+L/N 1450 - 747-867F, RC557, serial number 39244, Cathay #7, future registration B-LJG, full livery, selcal code LM-AJ, F/F February-11-2012, Acceptance date Feb-25-2012, Delivery flight (CPA3335-VHHH) date Feb-27-2012.

L/N 1451 - 747-830, RC023, serial number 37828, , Lufthansa #3, D-ABYC, Everett Building 40-24 for final work.

+L/N 1452 - 747-8HVF, RC603, serial number 37668, , AirBridgeCargo Airlines (ABC) #3, full livery, test reg. N1788B, registration VQ-BLR, selcal code DK-FS, F/F March-16-2012, Acceptance date : March-30-2012, Delivery flight (ABW4011-KORD) date : April 04-2012.

L/N 1453 - 747-830, RC024, serial number 37829, Lufthansa #4 , D-ABYD, KPAE flight line.

At this moment : 4 Airframes at the Final Assembly Line (FAL) at Everett Building 40-22
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L/N 1454 -747-8R7F, RC505, serial number 35810, Cargolux #5, registration LX-VCE, slant position #1
L/N 1455 - 747-87UF, RC577, Atlas Air #7, slant position #2.
L/N 1456 - 747-830, RC025, serial number 37830, Lufthansa #5, D-ABYF, body join position
L/N 1457 - 747-867F, RC558, serial number 39245, Cathay #8, future registration B-LJH, wing join position
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Airframes (18), scheduled for Final Assembly (subject to change).

L/N 1458 - 747-87UF, RC578, serial number -------, Atlas Air #8
L/N 1459 - 747-8XX, RC006, serial number--------, BBJ customer, delivered “green” in 2012.
L/N 1460 - 747-867F, RC559, serial number 39247, Cathay #9, future registration B-LJI
L/N 1461 - 747-8R7F, RC506, serial number 35811, Cargolux#6, registration LX-VCF
L/N 1462 - 747-87UF, RC579, serial number --------, Atlas Air #9
L/N 1463 - 747-8HVF, RC604, Air Bridge Cargo Airlines (ABC) #4
L/N 1464 - 747-867F, RC560, serial number 39246?, Cathay 10, future registration B-LJJ
L/N 1465 - 747-8R7F, RC507, Cargolux # 7
L/N 1466 - 747-8XX/BBJ, RC007
L/N 1467 - 747-87UF, RC580, Atlas Air #10
L/N 1468 - 747-8XX/BBJ, RC008
L/N 1469 - 747-8KZF, RC524, serial number 36139, NCA#4, registration JA14KZ
L/N 1470 - 747-830, RC026, serial number 37831, Lufthansa #6, D-ABYG
L/N 1471 - 747-87UF, RC581, Atlas Air #11
L/N 1472 - 747-830, RC027, serial number 37832, Lufthansa #7, D-ABYH
L/N 1473 - 747-8R7F, RC508, Cargolux #8
L/N 1474 - 747-8B5F, RC547, KAL#3
L/N 1475 - 747-830, RC028, serial number 37833, Lufthansa #8, D-ABYI

Remarks :
- L/N 1425 and 1426 acquired by KAL, after assembly had been completed, are according the latest received info still listed as 747-8HTF aircraft (original ordered by GuAP).
- L/N 1451 and 1453 (both Lufthansa 747-830 aircraft) may already have changed locations - 1451 at the Flight Line and 1453 at building 40-24 for final work.
- 747-8XX ------- XX : customercode unknown


Additions and/or corrections are highly appreciated.

[Edited 2012-04-12 07:32:14]

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-04-13 23:24:24 and read 39964 times.

The first to be delivered Lufthansa 747-8 intercontinental - RC022/D-ABYA - made it's first customer (C1) test flight at Friday the 13th .......................

See Matt Cawby's KPAE blog : http://kpae.blogspot.com/2012/04/paine-field-april-13.html

Is the first delivery still expected at April 23 ?

[Edited 2012-04-13 23:26:51]

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: EPA001
Posted 2012-04-14 05:19:35 and read 39715 times.

Quoting 747classic (Reply 153):
Provisional 747-8 Aircraft Production List (April -12--2011)

Fantastic overview. Thanks for the effort you made.  .

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-04-15 22:39:25 and read 39187 times.

RC003 a BBJ ordered by the Abu Dhabi Amiri Flight and used as 747-8I test aircraft #3 is back in the air.
The aircraft was stored at Paine Field after the last (test) flight at 21 November 2011 with call sign BOE440.
The aircraft was flown from Paine Field to Moses Lake and back at April 15 with call sign BOE003.
See : http://boeing.flightaware.com/live/f...3/history/20120415/2200Z/KPAE/KMWH


Aircraft data : L/N 1440 - 747-8Z5 , RC003, serial number 37500, BBJ customer Abu Dhabi Amiri Flight (Presidential Flight Authority) , white livery, 747-8I test aircraft #3, test registration N5020K, future registration A6-PFA, selcal code MR-DQ , F/F June 30-2011, KPAE flight line .

RC003 landing at KPAE, april 15.

Original uploaded by royalscottking, for other sizes see : http://www.flickr.com/photos/royalscottking/7082309767/
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As we patiently await a certain 747-8I delivery ............... a nice 747 movie of Flightblogger.
See : http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/fl.../2012/04/movie-monday-747-400.html

[Edited 2012-04-15 23:38:43]

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-04-17 23:13:46 and read 38641 times.

The fifth 747-8 freighter for Cargolux emerged from the Paint Hangar, see LX-VCE shown at stall F5 (most aft position) :

http://paineairport.com/kpae4886.htm

Aircraft Data : L/N 1454, 747-8R7F, RC505, serial number 35810, Cargolux #5, registration LX-VCE, KPAE flight line.

A 747-830 aircraft ( probably D-ABYC but D-ABYD is also possible - see reply 140 in this thread) was moved from the fuel dock to the Paint Hangar, see ;

http://paineairport.com/kpae4887.htm

[Edited 2012-04-18 00:10:30]

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-04-18 13:00:23 and read 38288 times.

L/N 1431 - 747-8KZF, RC523, serial number 36138, F/F Feb-3-2011, test aircraft #5, NCA #3, test registration N6009F, future registration JA13KZ, selcal code FQ-EM, presently stationed at Lackland AFB for refurbishment to delivery status made the first (post-refurbishment ?) test flight out of Lackland today (April-18-2012)
See : http://boeing.flightaware.com/live/f...3/history/20120418/1800Z/KSKF/KSKF

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-04-20 02:23:13 and read 37881 times.

Refurbishment / Customer Acceptance, Test Flight Update :
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RC005 made a customer acceptance (C1) flight out of Paine Field (KPAE) with call sign BOE449, see :
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...9/history/20120419/1615Z/KPAE/KPAE
Matt Cawby's KPAE blog shows the first picture of this C1 flight : http://paineairport.com/kpae4898.htm

Aircraft data : L/N 1449 - 747-8KB , RC005, serial number 37075, BBJ customer Qatar Amiri flight, leased from Lewiston Investments, A7-HJA , selcal CE-JM, white livery, F/F March-31-2012.
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Ready for delivery in the next few days or week (before the end of this month ?) are the following 747-8I aircraft :
RC003(BBJ), RC005(BBJ) and RC022(DLH).

Ready for delivery before the end of next month :
RC523(NCA) and RC505(CLX) and RC023(DLH) ?
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Is there perhaps a new customer for L/N1432, one of the apparently "overweight" early produced ex. Atlas Air freighters?
After a few days at the fuel dock the aircraft was pushed to the tower apron.
See : http://paineairport.com/kpae4896.htm

Aircraft data : L/N 1432 - 747-87UF, RC572, serial number 37563, Atlas Air #2 (NTU), white livery, no engines, KPAE flight line.

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: Laddie
Posted 2012-04-24 08:34:53 and read 36599 times.

It looks like RC523 is coming back to Everett today after refurb at Lackland:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE523

The delivery of RC022 to DLH originally scheduled for Monday (23 April) has been pushed back until the end of the week for unknown reasons. This is to be the first 747-8i delivery to an airline customer.

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: Someone83
Posted 2012-04-25 03:15:16 and read 36178 times.

Quoting Laddie (Reply 160):
It looks like RC523 is coming back to Everett today after refurb at Lackland:

Maybe a difficult question to answer, but after finishing refurb at Lackland, how much work, besides paint, does it then remain to do on the aircraft before it's ready for a delivery?

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-04-25 03:35:29 and read 36214 times.

Production/ Delivery update

Quoting Laddie (Reply 160):
It looks like RC523 is coming back to Everett today after refurb at Lackland

Still in white livery RC523/N6009F landing at Paine Field, see :
http://paineairport.com/kpae4912.htm

Quoting Someone83 (Reply 161):
Maybe a difficult question to answer, but after finishing refurb at Lackland, how much work, besides paint, does it then remain to do on the aircraft before it's ready for a delivery?

If all refurbishment tasks have been fully completed at Lackland, IMO the aircraft could technically be delivered in 2- 4 weeks from now, painting, (C1)customer test flight plus last minute issue(s) rectification and if necessary a second (C2) customer flight.
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The next Lufthansa 747-830 Intercontinental (RC023/D-ABYC) at the fuel dock after completion of post-assembly work at Everett building 40-24 and applying the LH livery in the Paint Hangar.

Original uploaded by Matt Cawby, see for other sizes : http://www.flickr.com/photos/microvolt/6965881304/
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According Matt Cawby's twitter RC005/A7-HJA a 747-8/BBJ for Qatar Amiri flight has been fueled for a delivery flight.

[Edited 2012-04-25 03:37:23]

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: Laddie
Posted 2012-04-25 06:50:26 and read 36018 times.

Quoting Someone83 (Reply 161):
Maybe a difficult question to answer, but after finishing refurb at Lackland, how much work, besides paint, does it then remain to do on the aircraft before it's ready for a delivery?

The customer (NCA) has asked for a July delivery date. The prep work (paint job, engine checkout, B-1 and C-1 flights etc.) will be paced towards that delivery timeframe.

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: Laddie
Posted 2012-04-25 10:32:18 and read 35814 times.

RC022 was handed over to DLH today. This is the first Intercontinental to be delivered to an airline customer.

The airplane is scheduled to depart KPAE for Frankfurt on May 1.

Boeing press release:

Boeing Delivers First Lufthansa 747-8 Intercontinental

Celebrations of delivery set for Everett on May 1 and Frankfurt on May 2

EVERETT, Wash., April 25, 2012 /PRNewswire/ -- Boeing (NYSE: BA) has delivered the first 747-8 Intercontinental passenger airliner to Deutsche Lufthansa AG, beginning a new era for the world's most recognized airplane, and beginning a new era of increased efficiency, stronger environmental performance and greater enjoyment for Lufthansa and its passengers.

"Lufthansa and Boeing have a long and proud history of working together to bring new innovations to the airline industry," said Jim Albaugh, president and CEO of Boeing Commercial Airplanes. "We are grateful for Lufthansa's inspiration and leadership in helping us design a new Queen of the Skies for the 21st Century, and I'm proud of what Boeing employees have accomplished by bringing this great airplane to Lufthansa and the world."

"After working together for many years, we are very pleased to have the newest generation of four-engine aircraft join our fleet," said Christoph Franz, chairman of the Executive Board and chief executive officer of Deutsche Lufthansa AG.

Lufthansa employees will conduct airline-specific preparations to get the airplane ready for a May 1 flight to its permanent home base in Frankfurt. Boeing will host a special flyaway celebration with senior executives from both companies that day. Lufthansa will then host a special celebration when the airplane arrives in Frankfurt on May 2. Details of those celebrations will be announced soon.

The 747-8 Intercontinental will bring double-digit improvements in fuel burn and emissions over its predecessor, the 747-400, while generating 30 percent less noise. The 747-8 Intercontinental's Dreamliner-inspired interior includes a new curved, upswept architecture giving passengers a greater feeling of space and comfort, while adding more room for personal belongings. It is powered by GE Aviation's GEnx-2B engines.

[Edited 2012-04-25 10:39:54]

[Edited 2012-04-25 10:45:32]

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-04-25 22:40:03 and read 35464 times.

The second Qatar Amiri Flight 747-8/BBJ, A7-HJA/RC005 ( the fifth assembled 747-8I/BBJ), has been delivered.
The aircraft has been flown towards Vancouver (CYVR) at April 25 for customs and thereafter left for an unknown destination (Hamburg or Wichita ?).

See : http://boeing-test-flights.blogspot....47-8kb-bbj-qatar-amiri-flight.html

The first picture of this departure can be seen on Matt Cawby's KPAE blog : http://paineairport.com/kpae4918.htm

RT here : http://paineairport.com/sounds/a7hja0425.mp3

[Edited 2012-04-25 23:26:07]

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: Laddie
Posted 2012-04-26 05:18:04 and read 35273 times.

Quoting 747classic (Reply 165):
The second Qatar Amiri Flight 747-8/BBJ, A7-HJA/RC005 ( the fifth assembled 747-8I/BBJ), has been delivered.

By my count, that makes 8 deliveries this year so far, and 17 deliveries in total. Boeing reaffirmed yesterday that it would deliver a combined 70 to 85 787s and 747s this year, with about a 50/50 split between the models.

It looks like RC022 and RC005 are the last deliveries for a while. RC003 (LN 1440, A6-PFA) is a VIP airplane that was supposed to be delivered by the end of this month, but it has slid about 30 days. After delivery it will go into storage at KBFI all summer.

RC505, RC577 and RC004 are also scheduled to be delivered by the end of May.

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-04-28 07:04:36 and read 34773 times.

According some sources 747-8KB/BBJ A7-HJA was flown to Wichita (IAB) from Vancouver (YVR) after delivery documents (customs) were completed.
Probably also for Aeroloft installation at Boeing Global Transport & Executive Systems (GTES), like the first delivered Qatar BBJ. (A7-HHE).
Any sightings of one of these two aircraft at IAB ?

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The next 747-8F from the assembly line ?

Matt Cawby's Paine Field blog of April 27 contains a picture of an unpainted 747-8F at the fuel dock (aircraft in the middle). Because all other known 747-8 freighters have been painted, this aircraft must be L/N 1455 - 747-87UF, RC577, Atlas Air #7.
This aircraft and the next one (L/N1458/RC578) will probably be operated for Swiss global forwarder Panalpina.

See : http://paineairport.com/kpae4930.htm

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: Laddie
Posted 2012-04-28 09:29:43 and read 34598 times.

Quoting 747classic (Reply 167):
Because all other known 747-8 freighters have been painted, this aircraft must be L/N 1455 - 747-87UF, RC577, Atlas Air #7.

That makes sense as LN1455 is due for delivery by the end of May. The B-1 flight should be in a couple of weeks.

DLH is taking RC022 up for a flight to Vancouver:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/DLH9876

The delivery ceremony is still scheduled for 1 May, so I hope DLH brings her back. I suppose they could use LN1451 or LN 1435 as stand-ins, if they are painted.

[Edited 2012-04-28 09:34:50]

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-04-28 10:58:37 and read 34488 times.

Quoting Laddie (Reply 168):
The delivery ceremony is still scheduled for 1 May, so I hope DLH brings her back.

Stretches CYVR - KBFI - KPAE are scheduled, expected departure Vancouver at 11.40 PDT with call sign DLH9877.

See : http://boeing.flightaware.com/live/flight/DLH9877

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: CCA
Posted 2012-04-28 19:36:02 and read 34196 times.

CXs 6th -8F (B-LJC?) should be delivered in May.

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: CCA
Posted 2012-04-28 20:50:15 and read 34099 times.

Apologies make that June

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-04-29 01:57:35 and read 33941 times.

D-ABYA, Vancouver (CYVR), DLH9876/77, April 28 2012

Original uploaded by Dave H @ YVR, for other sizes see : http://www.flickr.com/photos/41645839@N00/6976203980/in/photostream

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: CamiloA380
Posted 2012-04-29 02:01:00 and read 33936 times.

A video of the landing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaabfa43Ecs&feature=g-all-u

 

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: B777
Posted 2012-04-29 15:00:45 and read 33556 times.

Quoting CamiloA380 (Reply 173):
A video of the landing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaabf...all-u

Nice catch! Had I known it was coming here, I would have headed to the airport. I did see its departure while on No. 3 Road.

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: na
Posted 2012-05-01 04:34:56 and read 33071 times.

Any news when the first LH 748I will land at FRA tomorrow? Still scheduled for around 9 a.m.?

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: wilco737
Posted 2012-05-01 04:46:17 and read 33096 times.

Quoting na (Reply 175):
Any news when the first LH 748I will land at FRA tomorrow? Still scheduled for around 9 a.m.?

DLH 748 will leave Seattle at 21:00 UTC and scheduled in FRA at 07:30 UTC. Depending on flight time of course this could differe slightly.

wilco737
  

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: na
Posted 2012-05-01 04:56:33 and read 33347 times.

Thanks Wilco,
I´m a diehard late bird, but maybe tomorrow I´ll make an exception to honour the new Queen .
I´m on a barbecue party tonight though which makes it all the more difficult to raise so early.

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-05-01 12:42:37 and read 33057 times.

Quoting wilco737 (Reply 176):
DLH 748 will leave Seattle at 21:00 UTC and scheduled in FRA at 07:30 UTC. Depending on flight time of course this could differe slightly.

The flightplan has been filed : call sign DLH748, Estimated Time of Departure PAE 14.10 PDT ,
Estimated Time of Arrival FRA 08.33 CEST.
http://boeing.flightaware.com/live/flight/DLH748

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: Laddie
Posted 2012-05-01 13:41:11 and read 32959 times.

Boeing press release:

Boeing, Lufthansa Celebrate Flyaway of First Airline 747-8 Intercontinental

EVERETT, Wash., May 1, 2012 /PRNewswire/ -- Boeing (NYSE: BA) and Deutsche Lufthansa AG, celebrated the flyaway of the first 747-8 Intercontinental delivered to an airline. Boeing and Lufthansa employees joined leaders from both companies, media and suppliers for a delivery ceremony at the Future of Flight Aviation Center beside Paine Field airport in Everett, Wash. At the conclusion of the ceremony, Carsten Spohr, chairman of the executive board and CEO of Deutsche Lufthansa; Nico Buchholz, executive vice president, Group Fleet Management, Lufthansa; and Elizabeth Lund, Boeing vice president and general manager, 747 Program, boarded the airplane with about 30 passengers and crew for the flight taking the airplane from Everett to Lufthansa's home base at Frankfurt, Germany.

When the airplane lands at Frankfurt May 2, Lufthansa will host a special celebration. The airplane will begin regular revenue service June 1 on a flight from Frankfurt to Washington, D.C.

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: juanchito
Posted 2012-05-01 14:47:46 and read 32824 times.

She just took off 5 minutos ago to EDDF.

Juanchito

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-05-01 23:29:38 and read 32562 times.

First pictures and videos of the first Lufthansa 747-830 delivery flight are emerging.

Original uploaded by moonm, for other sizes see : http://www.flickr.com/photos/moonm/6987956750/

Matt Cawby's Paine Field blog : http://kpae.blogspot.com/2012/05/lufthansa-747-8i-delivery-flight.html
For aircraft departure data, Pudget Sound blog : http://boeing-test-flights.blogspot....-b747-830-lufthansa-delivered.html

[Edited 2012-05-01 23:34:01]

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: Ronaldo747
Posted 2012-05-02 06:22:06 and read 32271 times.

Quoting 747classic (Reply 178):
http://boeing.flightaware.com/live/flight/DLH748

She made a short appearance at Hamburg (EDDH/HAM) with a touch and go and went after then to FRA and made a low approach prior landing.

I was lucky to get her on approach to HAM about 120 km north while descending through FL200. She is a beauty .. and I'm happy. 

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-05-02 22:56:20 and read 31923 times.

Quoting Laddie (Reply 166):
RC505, RC577 and RC004 are also scheduled to be delivered by the end of May.

The next to be delivered 747-8I/BBJ emerged at the Everett Flight Line with the registration HZ-HMS1.

See : http://paineairport.com/kpae4961.htm

Aircraft data : L/N 1446 - 747-8JA , RC004, serial number 40065 , BBJ customer : Saudi Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal Bin Abdulaziz Alsaud (Kingdom Holding Company), test registration N458BJ, registration HZ-HMS1, white livery, KPAE flight line.

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: redrooster3
Posted 2012-05-02 23:31:25 and read 31890 times.

According to Reuters the 747-8i is "several" tonnes overweight.

Quote:
The head of Deutsche Lufthansa AG's (LHAG.DE) fleet management said he is not happy with the weight of Boeing Co's (BA.N) 747-8 jumbo, but that will not restrict the use of the airline's newest aircraft. "Yes, we are satisfied, otherwise we wouldn't have signed the acceptance of the aircraft," said Buchholz, one of the world's most powerful airplane buyers.



What could several tonnes be? 3-5 tonnes?

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: Thomas_Jaeger
Posted 2012-05-03 02:43:09 and read 31772 times.

Quoting 747classic (Reply 183):
Aircraft data : L/N 1446 - 747-8JA , RC004, serial number 40065 , BBJ customer : Saudi Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal Bin Abdulaziz Alsaud (Kingdom Holding Company), test registration N458BJ, registration HZ-HMS1, white livery, KPAE flight line.

Does anyone know for sure it will be operated by Kingdom Holding and not Saudi Arabian Royal Flight as previously reported?

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-05-03 03:35:01 and read 31737 times.

Quoting Thomas_Jaeger (Reply 185):
Does anyone know for sure it will be operated by Kingdom Holding and not Saudi Arabian Royal Flight as previously reported?

I included reply 134 from RobK in the Provisional 747-8 listing, see : Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 7 (by wilco737 Oct 27 2011 in Civil Aviation)

Below , some quotes from this reply :

"According to my sources, RC004 is for destined for His Royal Highness Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal Bin Abdulaziz Alsaud, more commonly known in aviation circles as Kingdom Holding Company. That would seem to be correct as BBJ3 N376BJ went to him/them as well and that has the same customer code of JA."

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: robk
Posted 2012-05-03 05:57:09 and read 31621 times.

Quoting Thomas_Jaeger (Reply 185):
Does anyone know for sure it will be operated by Kingdom Holding and not Saudi Arabian Royal Flight as previously reported?

Al-Waleed Bin Talal is a member of the Saudi Royal Family.....

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: Stitch
Posted 2012-05-03 07:21:58 and read 31550 times.

Quoting redrooster3 (Reply 184):
According to Reuters the 747-8i is "several" tonnes overweight. What could several tonnes be? 3-5 tonnes?

LH said it is overweight by "a bit", so I expect it's not that bad. Though even if it is that bad, the 5t MTOW boost should have addressed it, hence LH noting it won't impact their ability to perform the missions planned.

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-05-03 10:00:53 and read 31387 times.

Additional 747-8F flight testing.

RC521/N5017Q seems to have resumed flight testing after storage at the Everett flight line. The last regular test flight was performed at Dec-12-2011.

The aircraft was flown from Paine Field to Moses Lake at April 28 and is performing tests flights out of Moses Lake the last few days,
see : http://boeing.flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE521

Any idea what kind of tests are performed ?

[Edited 2012-05-03 10:03:53]

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: N14AZ
Posted 2012-05-03 10:44:44 and read 31302 times.

Quoting 747classic (Reply 186):
"According to my sources, RC004 is for destined for His Royal Highness Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal Bin Abdulaziz Alsaud, more commonly known in aviation circles as Kingdom Holding Company. That would seem to be correct as BBJ3 N376BJ went to him/them as well and that has the same customer code of JA."

So Kingdom Holding will have both VLAs: B 748i and A 380. Waow, I didn't know this.

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: Hmelawyer
Posted 2012-05-03 12:08:55 and read 31171 times.

Quoting 747classic (Reply 189):
Any idea what kind of tests are performed ?

Testing some additional software modal suppression to fix the flutter problems that are requiring the lock out of the tail fuel tanks.

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...sion-for-747-8i-stabilizer-371355/

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-05-05 01:00:47 and read 30733 times.

The next Cargolux 747-8 freighter (LX-VCE) performed yesterday (May 4) some taxi tests.
The aircraft was original scheduled (flight plan already filed) for a first (B1) flight from Paine field (KPAE) towards Moses Lake (KMWH) and back.
See : http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=G_pKLG7b0ys

Aircraft Data : L/N 1454, 747-8R7F, RC505, serial number 35810, Cargolux #5, full livery, named : City of Echternach, registration LX-VCE.

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-05-05 09:47:14 and read 30475 times.

RC505/LX-VCE airborne at 09.22 PDT, May 5, starting its first (B1) flight from Paine field (KPAE) towards Moses Lake (KMWH) and thereafter back home again.
See : http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE505

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: ual747-600
Posted 2012-05-07 17:01:47 and read 30007 times.

Here is a shot of a Pinalpina 747-8F. Does anyone know what line number this aircraft might be?

http://paineairport.com/kpae4976.htm

UAL747-600

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-05-07 21:54:02 and read 29837 times.

Quoting ual747-600 (Reply 194):
Here is a shot of a Pinalpina 747-8F. Does anyone know what line number this aircraft might be?

Aircraft data : L/N 1455 - 747-87UF, RC577, serial number 37570, Atlas Air #7*, full Panalpina livery, registration N850GT, will be operated by Atlas Air for Swiss global forwarder Panalpina, KPAE Flight line.

* First three aircraft RC571,572 and 573 are rejected by Atlas Air and are still on the flight line.

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: na
Posted 2012-05-08 00:31:32 and read 29714 times.

Quoting ual747-600 (Reply 194):
Here is a shot of a Pinalpina 747-8F.

Bad livery. A chance wasted to stand out.

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: ual747-600
Posted 2012-05-08 08:36:20 and read 29444 times.

Quoting 747classic (Reply 195):
Aircraft data : L/N 1455 - 747-87UF, RC577, serial number 37570, Atlas Air #7*, full Panalpina livery, registration N850GT, will be operated by Atlas Air for Swiss global forwarder Panalpina, KPAE Flight line.

Thanks.

UAL747-600

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-05-09 01:03:29 and read 29178 times.

747-8 Intercontinental BBJ update.

As widely known in aviation circles it's extremely difficult to get some (reliable) information about the future customers of BBJ aircraft. Also the actual location and timing of the VIP cabin upgrades are often a mystery. Several data can only be collected by "reading between the lines" in related aviation articles or by pure luck. Other sources are the official registration sites or some (very rare) on spot info.

However, in the issue 1-7 May of Flight International some additional info was revealed in two articles. (page 7, "Lufthansa's long wait for newest jumbo comes to an end" and at page 17 "Shrinking VIP market will lead to fight for contracts". ) The second article can also be found here :
http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...irliner-completions-market-371049/
The first article (with several serial numbers and completion centers mentioned) is AFAIK not available at the free flightglobal site.

The following data about the already assembled 747-8/BBJ are now known :

L/N 1434 - 747-8JK, RC001, serial number 38636, 747-8I test aircraft #1, destined for a BBJ customer (State of Kuwait), test registration N6067E, future registration 9K-GAA, full red-orange "Boeing Sunrise"livery, selcal code CQ-AJ, Official first Intercontinental roll-out ceremony happened at February 13, F/F March 20th, -2011, stored, with engines removed, for refurbishment to delivery status at KPAE.

L/N 1439 - 747-8KB , RC002, serial number 37544, BBJ customer Qatar Amiri Flight , test registration N5022E, registration A7-HHE, white livery, F/F Jan-30-2012, Acceptance date Feb-27-2012, Delivery flight (A7HHE-CYVR-KIAB) date Feb-28-2012. Greenpoint Technologies Aeroloft cabin installation at Boeing Global Transport & Executive Systems (GTES) in Wichita, Kansas, thereafter cabin outfitting at Lufthansa Technik in Hamburg, Germany. Cabin outfitting will start in September and will take between 18 and 21 months.

L/N 1440 - 747-8Z5 , RC003, serial number 37500, BBJ customer Abu Dhabi Amiri Flight (Presidential Flight Authority) , white livery, 747-8I test aircraft #3, test registration N5020K, future registration A6-PFA, selcal code MR-DQ , F/F June 30-2011, KPAE flight line, will be transferred to Boeing Field (KBFI) for storage during summer 2012. Cabin outfitting will be completed by Jet Aviation in Basel, Switzerland.

L/N 1446 - 747-8JA , RC004, serial number 40065 , BBJ customer : Saudi Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal Bin Abdulaziz Alsaud (Kingdom Holding Company), test registration N458BJ, registration HZ-HMS1 , Expected delivery in May 2012, white livery, KPAE flight line. First to Boeing's Wichita, Kansas Global Transport & Executive Systems (GTES) facility for installation of the Greenpoint Technologies Aeroloft cabin. Thereafter , by the the year-end, the aircraft will be flown to Hamburg for cabin outfitting by Lufthansa Technik.

L/N 1449 - 747-8KB , RC005, serial number 37075, BBJ customer Qatar Amiri flight, leased from Lewiston Investments, A7-HJA , selcal CE-JM, white livery, F/F March-31-2012, Acceptance and Delivery flight (A7HJA-CYVR-KIAB) date April -25-2012. Greenpoint Technologies Aeroloft cabin installation at Boeing Global Transport & Executive Systems (GTES) in Wichita, Kansas. Cabin outfitting will be done by completion center AMAC in Basel, Switzerland. The aircraft is expected to arrive in July.

The next 747-8I/BBJ is now also at the Final Assembly Line :

L/N 1459 - 747-8XX, RC006, serial number--------, BBJ customer, wing join position.

The following data also emerged : 747-8LQ, serial number 41060, test registration N455BJ
See : http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinqu...Num_Results.aspx?NNumbertxt=N455BJ

Could this be RC006 ?????

Any comments and/or corrections are highly appreciated.

[Edited 2012-05-09 01:09:44]

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-05-14 23:11:13 and read 28521 times.

Very nice aerial view of the next two 747-8 freighters, both being prepared at the Evettt flight line for delivery. Probably L/N1454/LX -VCE will be delivered this month.

See Matt cawby's KPAE blog : http://paineairport.com/images/kpae8103.jpg

[Edited 2012-05-14 23:13:46]

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-05-15 10:04:41 and read 28193 times.

First (B1) flight of Atlas Air L/N 1455 - 747-87UF, RC577, serial number 37570, registration N850GT, leased to Panalpina, was performed today (May 15) with call sign BOE577.

The aircraft just landed at Moses Lake (KMWH) from Paine Field (KPAE) , see : http://boeing.flightaware.com/live/f...7/history/20120515/1630Z/KPAE/KMWH

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-05-18 01:28:40 and read 27669 times.

Two unpainted 747-8I aircraft with dark blue rudders are visible on the latest available (aerial) picture of the Everett flight line at Matt Cawby's blog.
Because D-ABYC and D-ABYE are already painted these two must be D-ABYD and D-ABYF.
So, the next 747-830 for Lufthansa seems to have left the final assembly line.
Aircraft data : L/N 1456 - 747-830, RC025, serial number 37830, Lufthansa #5, D-ABYF.

See : http://paineairport.com/images/kpae8111.jpg

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: EPA001
Posted 2012-05-18 03:00:46 and read 27904 times.

Quoting 747classic (Reply 201):
Two unpainted 747-8I aircraft with dark blue rudders

They must be for LH.  . Thanks again for keeping us so well informed about the developments.

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: ual747-600
Posted 2012-05-22 17:09:39 and read 27212 times.

Quoting 747classic (Reply 199):
Probably L/N1454/LX -VCE will be delivered this month.

I was wondering which, if any other 747-8's would be delivered this month in addition to this aircraft. Would LN1455 or the other 747-8 BOE3 (LN1446 I think) that flew today be candidates?

Thanks.

UAL747-600

[Edited 2012-05-22 17:13:31]

[Edited 2012-05-22 17:19:28]

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: Laddie
Posted 2012-05-23 08:30:54 and read 26767 times.

Quoting ual747-600 (Reply 203):
I was wondering which, if any other 747-8's would be delivered this month in addition to this aircraft. Would LN1455 or the other 747-8 BOE3 (LN1446 I think) that flew today be candidates?

Boeing is hoping to deliver 1440, 1454 and 1455 in May. 1446 will be delivered sometime this summer.

1440 will be delivered to the VIP customer, then flown to Wichita for storage before its mod work.

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: ual747-600
Posted 2012-05-23 10:28:28 and read 26598 times.

Quoting Laddie (Reply 204):
Boeing is hoping to deliver 1440, 1454 and 1455 in May. 1446 will be delivered sometime this summer.

1440 will be delivered to the VIP customer, then flown to Wichita for storage before its mod work.

Thank you.

UAL747-600

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-05-23 23:11:17 and read 26076 times.

RC022/D-ABYA, "Brandenburg" made its first training flight out of Frankfurt after Post Delivery Maintenance (PDM) has been completed at Lufthansa's maintenance base.

D-ABYA, FRA/EDDF, May 23 - 2012

Original uploaded by IIama1910, see for other sizes : http://www.flickr.com/photos/32090718@N05/7257401664/

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: wilco737
Posted 2012-05-23 23:13:11 and read 26066 times.

Quoting 747classic (Reply 206):

It did flight training with new crews in LEJ yesterday.

Looks like Brandenburg is the name, clearly visible on the picture.

wilco737
  

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-05-23 23:27:18 and read 26050 times.

The training flight was used to train five check-pilots.
Here is a video of the flight, with several touch and go's performed at Leipzig Halle Airport (LEJ) :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=km1rXVICacc

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-05-24 23:42:27 and read 26029 times.

RC505/LX-VCE has been delivered at May 24 :

http://boeing-test-flights.blogspot....-b747-8r7f-cargolux-delivered.html

LX-VCE performed a (C1) Customer flight at May 19.

Original uploaded by flyingAmelia, for other sizes see : http://www.flickr.com/photos/barwigj/7230908388/in/photostream

A second flight (C2 or system checks) was made at May 21.

The delivery flight from Paine Field to Luxembourg was operated via Seattle and LAX ( KPAE-KSEA- KLAX-ELLX ).
See : http://boeing.flightaware.com/live/flight/CLX773

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: Laddie
Posted 2012-05-25 08:25:28 and read 25434 times.

RC003 (VIP config) has been delivered, and is scheduled to fly to Wichita for storage on 29 May.

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: Laddie
Posted 2012-05-25 12:18:21 and read 25593 times.

The first 747-8 Freighter to be delivered to NCA (RC523) emerged from the paint hangar sporting the customer’s new livery. I hope Matt Cawby or another spotter posts a photo of it soon.

The airplane will be handed over to NCA sometime in July.

[Edited 2012-05-25 12:18:54]

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-05-26 02:18:50 and read 25300 times.

Quoting Laddie (Reply 211):
The airplane will be handed over to NCA sometime in July

According the latest NCA Mid -term business plan released at the NCA website, the first 747-8F will be introduced in August 2012 at NCA's cargo network.

During FY 2012 one more will be added.(RC522 ???)

In FY 2013 and 2014 three (3) will each be added.

See at page 3 : http://www.nca.aero/e/news/2012/documents/PRP_E.pdf

Summary NCA 747-8F aircraft (3 already produced and one scheduled for assembly)

L/N 1421 - 747-8KZF, RC521, serial number 36136, F/F March-17-2010, test aircraft #2, light Boeing livery, test reg. N5017Q, NCA reg. JA-11KZ, KPAE flight line , used for additional flight testing (tail tank, FMC etc.), will be refurbished to delivery standard later.

L/N 1422 - 747-8KZF, RC522, serial number 36137, F/F March-14-2010, test aircraft #3, light Boeing livery, test reg. N50217, NCA reg. JA-12KZ, refurbishment to delivery standard at Lackland AFB, San Antonio.

L/N 1431 - 747-8KZF, RC523, serial number 36138, F/F Feb-3-2011, test aircraft #5, NCA #3, test registration N6009F, future registration JA13KZ, selcal code FQ-EM, white livery, refurbished at Lackland AFB, KPAE flight line, expected to be delivered at request of NCA in July 2012.

L/N 1469 - 747-8KZF, RC524, serial number 36139, NCA#4, registration JA14KZ

[Edited 2012-05-26 02:35:22]

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: ual747-600
Posted 2012-05-26 09:18:54 and read 25105 times.

Quoting Laddie (Reply 211):
The first 747-8 Freighter to be delivered to NCA (RC523) emerged from the paint hangar sporting the customer’s new livery
http://www.flickr.com/photos/moonm/7268949670/

Here's a distant shot of it off flickr.

Ual747-600

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: flightsimer
Posted 2012-05-26 09:57:58 and read 25028 times.

When is KE's first i scheduled to begin assembly?

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-05-26 10:18:13 and read 25018 times.

Quoting flightsimer (Reply 214):
When is KE's first i scheduled to begin assembly?

Only Four (4) line numbers are known (up to now) for KE 747-8F aircraft :

L/N 1425 747-8HTF, RC541 Delivered at Feb 07 - 2012.
L/N 1426 747-8HTF, RC546 KPAE flight line
L/N 1474 747-8B5F, RC547 (2013)
L/N 1479 747-8B5F, RC548 (2013)

No 747-8B5 Intercontinental aircraft for KE are listed at the provisional firing order (up to now).

[Edited 2012-05-26 10:20:05]

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-05-29 22:20:20 and read 24342 times.

RC521/N5017Q, the last remaining full test wired test aircraft in the original "Boeing light " livery, completed the additional flight tests (tail tank and NGFMC issues) and was flown from Boeing Field (KBFI) towards Lackland AFB (KSKF) in Texas for refurbishment to delivery status.

See : http://boeing.flightaware.com/live/f...1/history/20120529/1800Z/KBFI/KSKF

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: na
Posted 2012-05-30 04:00:41 and read 24156 times.

Quoting ual747-600 (Reply 209):
Here's a distant shot of it off flickr.

Titles are larger and shortened. Is there a red curvy line on the fuselage similar to the blue one on the Boeing test livery? Tail looks the same.

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: Laddie
Posted 2012-05-30 07:13:51 and read 24005 times.

RC558's roll-out from the factory marks the first 747-8 built at the higher production rate of 2/month. The airplane is scheduled to be delivered to CAT in the July/August timeframe.

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-05-30 12:28:28 and read 23815 times.

L/N 1446/RC004 , the fourth produced 747-8I/BBJ, just left Paine Field for a first (B1) flight towards Moses Lake, call sign BOE4.

See : http://boeing.flightaware.com/live/f...4/history/20120530/1800Z/KPAE/KMWH

Aircraft data : L/N 1446 - 747-8JA , RC004, serial number 40065 , BBJ customer : Saudi Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal Bin Abdulaziz Alsaud (Kingdom Holding Company), test registration N458BJ, registration HZ-HMS1 , Expected delivery in Summer 2012, white livery, KPAE flight line. First to Boeing's Wichita, Kansas Global Transport & Executive Systems (GTES) facility for installation of the Greenpoint Technologies Aeroloft cabin. Thereafter , by the the year-end, the aircraft will be flown to Hamburg for cabin outfitting by Lufthansa Technik.

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: flightsimer
Posted 2012-05-30 14:13:42 and read 23690 times.

Quoting 747classic (Reply 211):

Thanks. How far in advance were line numbers given (date wise)?

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-05-31 02:09:34 and read 23433 times.

Quoting flightsimer (Reply 216):
How far in advance were line numbers given (date wise)?

At the moment 4 aircraft are in final (major) assembly:

L/N 1458 slant position #1
L/N 1459 slant position #2
L/N 1460 body join position
L/N 1461 wing join position


Known (not officially) is the firing order until and incl. L/N 1479.

This firing order is not "cast in iron" and may be changed at any moment. However after starting of the actual sub-assembly, changing of the firing order becomes nearly impossible (or for the customer : very expensive). Also it's more difficult to change from one of the 3 basic aircraft configurations to another at a given line number. This is caused by the very tight delivery schedule for the different parts delivered by several subcontractors.

The 3 Basic 747-8 aircraft configurations are :
- 747-8 Intercontinental - Airline configuration, built according Basic number sequence R8001, R8002 and higher.
- 747-8 Intercontinental - BBJ ("Green" configuration), built according Basic number sequence R8401, R8402, etc.
- 747-8 Freighter, built according Basic number sequence R8901, R8902, etc.

Quoting Laddie (Reply 214):
RC558's roll-out from the factory marks the first 747-8 built at the higher production rate of 2/month

Starting with L/N 1457/RC558 the assembly rate is fixed at 2 aircraft/month, so now you can make your calculations .

L/N 1458, roll out in mid June 2012
L/N 1459, roll out in start of July 2012, etc.
According this schedule L/N1479 (the last known) will be "rolled out" somewhere in April 2013.

Note : More details of each produced and scheduled airframe will be shown in the June update of the "provisional 747-8 listing".

Regards ,

Peter.

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: someone83
Posted 2012-05-31 05:44:36 and read 23278 times.

Quoting 747classic (Reply 200):
First (B1) flight of Atlas Air L/N 1455 - 747-87UF, RC577, serial number 37570, registration N850GT, leased to Panalpina, was performed today (May 15) with call sign BOE577.
http://boeing.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=2270

Delivered today according to a press release from Boeing

This is also the 20th 747-8 delivered

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-05-31 06:05:12 and read 23261 times.

The flight plan of the delivery flight KPAE- VHHH of RC577 has been filed with call sign GTI609*, see :

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/G...9/history/20120531/1700Z/KPAE/VHHH

* Note : Yesterday (May 30) also a B748 flight plan with a GTI call sign was filed for VHHH , but later timed-out.

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-06-01 03:18:45 and read 22893 times.

According Matt Cawby's blog RW16R/34L will be closed until Monday morning, so no flights in and out of KPAE this weekend.

Finally some pictures of the 747-8 program progress during the last week of May emerged on the WW-web :

- RC521/N5017Q, the last active test aircraft, departed for refurbishment from KBFI towards Lackland at May 29.

Original uploaded by Hornethunter91, see for other sizes : http://www.flickr.com/photos/hornethunter/7300394784/

- First Flight of RC004/HZ-HMS1 at May 30, see : http://paineairport.com/kpae5039.htm

- Delivery flight of RC577/N850GT to Hongkong at May 31, see : http://kpae.blogspot.nl/2012/05/panalpina-747-8f-delivery-flight.html
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Quoting Laddie (Reply 210):
RC003 (VIP config) has been delivered, and is scheduled to fly to Wichita for storage on 29 May.

Has RC003 already left for Wichita ?

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-06-01 10:37:52 and read 22663 times.

Quoting Laddie (Reply 211):
The first 747-8 Freighter to be delivered to NCA (RC523) emerged from the paint hangar sporting the customer’s new livery. I hope Matt Cawby or another spotter posts a photo of it soon

Matt Cawby posted a nice picture of RC523/N6009F in her new NCA livery during a test flight on May 23.


Original uploaded by kpaekilo1, see for other sizes : http://www.flickr.com/photos/38619847@N05/7314938000/in/photostream

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: mattcawby
Posted 2012-06-01 15:51:44 and read 22489 times.

Quoting 747classic (Reply 221):
Matt Cawby posted a nice picture of RC523/N6009F in her new NCA livery during a test flight on May 23.

My girlfriend got that picture, I'm so proud of her.

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-06-02 08:41:20 and read 22236 times.

Provisional 747-8 Aircraft Production List (June-02-2012)

38 Completed airframes, 20 delivered (marked : )

L/N 1420 - 747-8R7F, RC501, serial number 35808, F/F Feb-08-2010, test aircraft #1, light Boeing livery, test reg. N747EX, Cargolux reg. LX-VCA (LX-ECV-- NTU), selcal code CK-EQ, refurbishment to delivery standard at Lackland AFB, San Antonio.

L/N 1421 - 747-8KZF, RC521, serial number 36136, F/F March-17-2010, test aircraft #2, light Boeing livery, test reg. N5017Q, NCA reg. JA-11KZ , refurbishment to delivery standard at Lackland AFB, San Antonio.

L/N 1422 - 747-8KZF, RC522, serial number 36137, F/F March-14-2010, test aircraft #3, light Boeing livery, test reg. N50217, NCA reg. JA-12KZ, refurbishment to delivery standard at Lackland AFB, San Antonio.

L/N 1423 - 747-8R7F, RC502, serial number 35806, F/F Aug-31-2011, full livery, "City of Esch-sur-Alzette", Cargolux reg. LX-VCB (LX-ACV-- NTU), selcal code CK-GQ, Acceptance and Delivery flight (CLX1JS- KSAE-ELLX) date : October-12-2011.

L/N 1424 - 747-8R7F, RC503, serial number 35807, F/F July-22-2010, test aircraft #4, full livery, "City of Ettelbruck", test reg. N5573S, Cargolux reg. LX-VCC (LX-DCV-- NTU), selcal code CL-KQ, Acceptance and delivery flight (CLX789-KSEA-CYYC-ELLX) date: March-23-2012.

L/N 1425 - 747-8HTF, RC541, serial number 37132, Guggenheim Aviation Partners (GuAP) NTU, KAL Cargo( #1), full KAL livery, HL7609, selcal code AD-FL , F/F Jan-10-2012, Acceptance date Feb-06-2012, Delivery flight (KAL28D RKSI/ICN ) date : Feb-07-2012.

L/N 1426 - 747-8HTF, RC546, serial number 37133, Guggenheim Aviation Partners (GuAP) NTU, KAL Cargo (#2), full KAL livery, HL7610, KPAE flight line.

L/N 1427 - 747-867F, RC551, serial number 39238, Cathay #1, registration B-LJA, selcal code CR-HM, special "Hong Kong Trader" livery, F/F November 05-2011, Acceptance and Delivery flight (CPA3337-VHHH) date: November-15-2011.

L/N 1428 - 747-867F, RC552, serial number 39239, Cathay #2, , registration B-LJB, full livery, F/F November-16-2011, Acceptance and Delivery flight (CPA3337-VHHH) date : November-23-2011.

L/N 1429 - 747-87UF, RC571, serial number 37562, Atlas Air #1 (NTU), painted basic white-dark blue BA colours), KPAE flight line.

L/N 1430 - 747-8HVF, RC601, serial number 37580, AirBridgeCargo Airlines (ABC) #1, future registration VQ-BGZ (Volga Dnepr Group) , full ABC livery, KPAE flight line.

L/N 1431 - 747-8KZF, RC523, serial number 36138, F/F Feb-3-2011, test aircraft #5, NCA #3, test registration N6009F, future registration JA13KZ, selcal code FQ-EM, new NCA livery, refurbished at Lackland AFB, KPAE flight line, expected to be delivered at request of NCA in July 2012.

L/N 1432 - 747-87UF, RC572, serial number 37563, Atlas Air #2 (NTU), white livery, no engines, KPAE flight line.

L/N 1433 - 747-867F, RC553, serial number 39240, Cathay #3, registration B-LJC, full livery, no engines installed, KPAE flight line.

L/N 1434 - 747-8JK, RC001, serial number 38636, 747-8I test aircraft #1, destined for a BBJ customer (State of Kuwait), test registration N6067E, future registration 9K-GAA, full red-orange Boeing Sunrise livery, selcal code CQ-AJ, Official first Intercontinental roll-out ceremony happened at February 13, F/F March 20th, -2011, stored, with engines removed, for refurbishment to delivery status at KPAE.

L/N 1435 - 747-830, RC021, serial number 37826, F/F April-26-2011, 747-8I test aircraft #2, test registration N6067U, Lufthansa #1, selcal code CS-HP, basic LH color scheme, without lettering and LH logo, LH registration D-ABYE, Refurbishment to delivery standard at KPAE. Scheduled delivery date September-30-2012.

L/N 1436 - 747-8R7F, RC504, serial number 35809, Cargolux #4, full Cargolux livery, "City of Luxembourg", registration LX-VCD, selcal code AJ-CM, F/F September-02 -2011, Acceptance and Delivery flight (CLX789-ELLX) date : October 13-2011.

L/N 1437 - 747-87UF, RC573, serial number 37564, Atlas Air #3 (NTU), white livery with both rudders painted in Atlas livery, KPAE flight line.

L/N 1438 - 747-867F, RC554, serial number 39241, Cathay # 4, full livery, registration B-LJD, KPAE flight line.

L/N 1439 - 747-8KB , RC002, serial number 37544, BBJ customer Qatar Amiri Flight , test registration N5022E, registration A7-HHE, white livery, F/F Jan-30-2012, Acceptance date Feb-27-2012, Delivery flight (A7HHE-CYVR-KIAB) date Feb-28-2012. Greenpoint Technologies Aeroloft cabin installation at Boeing Global Transport & Executive Systems (GTES) in Wichita, Kansas, thereafter cabin outfitting at Lufthansa Technik in Hamburg, Germany. Cabin outfitting will start in September and will take between 18 and 21 months.

L/N 1440 - 747-8Z5 , RC003, serial number 37500, BBJ customer Abu Dhabi Amiri Flight (Presidential Flight Authority) , white livery, 747-8I test aircraft #3, test registration N5020K, future registration A6-PFA, selcal code MR-DQ , F/F June 30-2011, Acceptance date May 24, KPAE flight line?, will be transferred /or is already transferred to Wichita (KIAB) for storage during summer 2012, thereafter Greenpoint Technologies Aeroloft cabin installation at Boeing Global Transport & Executive Systems (GTES) . Cabin outfitting will be completed by Jet Aviation in Basel, Switzerland.

L/N 1441 - 747-867F, RC555, serial number 39242, Cathay #5 , test registration N1785B, Cathay registration B-LJE, selcal code BF-CS, full livery, F/F Aug-13-2011, Acceptance and Delivery flight (CPA3337-VHHH)date : October-31-2011.

L/N 1442 - 747-87UF, RC574, serial number 37561, Atlas Air #4 , full BA World Cargo livery, G-GSSD, selcal code HL-ZQ, F/F October-21-2011, Acceptance and Delivery flight (GSS7478- EGSS) date : November-03-2011.

L/N 1443 - 747-830, RC022, serial number 37827, Lufthansa #2, test registration N5016R, LH registration D-ABYA, full livery, "Brandenburg" selcal code BR-DA, F/F Feb-08-2012, Acceptance date April-25-2012, Delivery flight (DLH748 EDDF) date : May 01 2012. Inaugural flight DLH416 (EDDF-KIAD ) date: June-01-2012.

L/N 1444 - 747-87UF, RC575, serial number 37568, Atlas Air #5, full BA World Cargo livery, G-GSSE, selcal code HM-BQ, F/F November-17-2011, Acceptance date : December-05-2011, Delivery flight (BAW8307-VHHH) date : Dec-19-2011.

L/N 1445 - 747-87UF, RC576, serial number 37569, Atlas Air #6, full BA World Cargo livery, G-GSSF, selcal code DK-JQ, F/F December-0 5-2011, Acceptance date : December-15-2011, Delivery flight (BAW8307-VHHH) date : Dec-27-2011.

L/N 1446 - 747-8JA , RC004, serial number 40065 , BBJ customer : Saudi Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal Bin Abdulaziz Alsaud (Kingdom Holding Company), test registration N458BJ, registration HZ-HMS1 , F/F May-30-2012, Expected delivery in Summer 2012, white livery, KPAE flight line. First to Boeing's Wichita, Kansas Global Transport & Executive Systems (GTES) facility for installation of the Greenpoint Technologies Aeroloft cabin. Thereafter , by the the year-end, the aircraft will be flown to Hamburg for cabin outfitting by Lufthansa Technik.

L/N 1447 - 747-867F, RC556, serial number 39243, Cathay #6 , registration B-LJF, full livery, FAL Roll out date November 2, selcal code DR-EJ, F/F December-01-2011, Acceptance and Delivery flight (CPA3337-VHHH)date : December-12-2011.

L/N 1448 - 747-8HVF, RC 602, serial number 37581, AirBridgeCargo Airlines (ABC) #2, registration VQ-BLQ, selcal code FM-DS, full livery, last assembled 747-8 aircraft in 2011, F/F December-21-2011, Acceptance date Jan-26-2012. Delivery flight (ABW5011- KORD) date : Feb-03-2012.

L/N 1449 - 747-8KB , RC005, serial number 37075, BBJ customer Qatar Amiri flight, leased from Lewiston Investments, A7-HJA , selcal CE-JM, white livery, F/F March-31-2012, Acceptance and Delivery flight (A7HJA-CYVR-KIAB) date April -25-2012. Greenpoint Technologies Aeroloft cabin installation at Boeing Global Transport & Executive Systems (GTES) in Wichita, Kansas. Cabin outfitting will be done by completion center AMAC in Basel, Switzerland.

L/N 1450 - 747-867F, RC557, serial number 39244, Cathay #7, future registration B-LJG, full livery, selcal code LM-AJ, F/F February-11-2012, Acceptance date Feb-25-2012, Delivery flight (CPA3335-VHHH) date Feb-27-2012.

L/N 1451 - 747-830, RC023, serial number 37828, , Lufthansa #3, full livery, D-ABYC, KPAE Flight line, scheduled delivery date June-30-2012.

L/N 1452 - 747-8HVF, RC603, serial number 37668, , AirBridgeCargo Airlines (ABC) #3, full livery, test reg. N1788B, registration VQ-BLR, selcal code DK-FS, F/F March-16-2012, Acceptance date : March-30-2012, Delivery flight (ABW4011-KORD) date : April 04-2012.

L/N 1453 - 747-830, RC024, serial number 37829, Lufthansa #4 , D-ABYD, unpainted with dark blue rudders, KPAE flight line, scheduled delivery date July-31-2012.

L/N 1454 -747-8R7F, RC505, serial number 35810, Cargolux #5, full livery, named : City of Echternach, registration LX-VCE, selcal AM-JP, F/F May 05 -2012, Acceptance/Delivery flight (CLX773-KSEA-KLAX-ELLX) date May 24-2012.

L/N 1455 - 747-87UF, RC577, serial number 37570, Atlas Air #7, full Panalpina livery, registration N850GT, selcal code CM-GJ, will be operated by Atlas Air for Swiss global forwarder Panalpina, F/F May-15-2012, Acceptance and delivery flight (GTI609-VHHH) date : May-31-2012.

L/N 1456 - 747-830, RC025, serial number 37830, Lufthansa #5, D-ABYF, unpainted with dark blue rudders, KPAE flight line, Scheduled delivery date August-30-2012.

L/N 1457 - 747-867F, RC558, serial number 39245, Cathay #8, unpainted, KPAE flight line, registration B-LJH, expected delivery : July/Aug 2012.

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At this moment : 4 Airframes at the Final Assembly Line (FAL) at Everett Building 40-22

L/N 1458 - 747-87UF, RC578, Atlas Air #8, slant position #1
L/N 1459 - 747-8XX, RC006, serial number--------, BBJ customer, slant position #2.
L/N 1460 - 747-867F, RC559, serial number 39247, Cathay #9, future registration B-LJI, body join position.
L/N 1461 - 747-8R7F, RC506, serial number 35811, Cargolux #6, registration LX-VCF

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Airframes (18), scheduled for Final Assembly (subject to change).

L/N 1462 - 747-87UF, RC579, serial number --------, Atlas Air #9
L/N 1463 - 747-8HVF, RC604, serial number 37669, Air Bridge Cargo Airlines (ABC) #4 , VQ-BRH
L/N 1464 - 747-867F, RC560, serialnumber 39246?, Cathay #10, future registration B-LJJ
L/N 1465 - 747-8R7F, RC507, Cargolux # 7
L/N 1466 - 747-8XX/BBJ, RC007
L/N 1467 - 747-87UF, RC580, Atlas Air #10
L/N 1468 - 747-8XX/BBJ, RC008
L/N 1469 - 747-8KZF, RC524, serial number 36139, NCA#4, JA14KZ
L/N 1470 - 747-830, RC026, serial number 37831, Lufthansa #6, D-ABYG
L/N 1471 - 747-87UF, RC581, Atlas Air #11
L/N 1472 - 747-830, RC027, serial number 37832, Lufthansa #7, D-ABYH
L/N 1473 - 747-8R7F, RC508, Cargolux #8
L/N 1474 - 747-8B5F, RC547, KAL#3
L/N 1475 - 747-830, RC028, serial number 37833, Lufthansa #8, D-ABYI
L/N 1476 - 747-87UF, RC582, Atlas Air #12
L/N 1477 - 747-830, RC029, serial number 37834, Lufthansa #9, D-ABYJ
L/N 1478 - 747-8R7F, RC509, Cargolux #9
L/N 1479 - 747-8B5F, RC548, KAL #4

Any correction and/or additions are highly appreciated.

[Edited 2012-06-02 09:11:56]

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-06-03 21:50:41 and read 21548 times.

Provisional 747-8 Aircraft Production List (June-02-2012) Update :

I noticed that the delivery markings (+) have been lost after posting.

Below are the Line Numbers of the already delivered 20 aircraft :

Freighter (17): L/N 1423, 1424, 1425, 1427, 1428, 1436, 1441, 1442, 1444, 1445, 1447, 1448 , 1450, 1452, 1454 and 1455.

VIP/BBJ (3) : L/N 1439, 1440 and 1449

Intercontinental (1) : L/N 1443

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L/N 1431/RC523 - The stickers with test registration N6009F, visible at the picture (May 23) in reply 221, have been removed.
The first 747-8F with a NCA registration , JA13KZ, is now visible. The aircraft is expected to be delivered in July 2012.

RC523, KPAE, June 01 2012.

Original uploaded by Moonm, see for other sizes : http://www.flickr.com/photos/moonm/7317792212/in/photostream

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-06-04 22:05:08 and read 21058 times.

Two more Lufthansa 747-8I aircraft are captured by Matt Cawby in various stages of pre-delivery status :

- L/N 1453 - 747-830, RC024, serial number 37829, Lufthansa #4 , D-ABYD, full livery, just leaving the paint hangar, KPAE flight line, scheduled delivery date July-31-2012, see : http://paineairport.com/kpae5058.htm

- L/N 1456 - 747-830, RC025, serial number 37830, Lufthansa #5, D-ABYF, unpainted with dark blue rudders, KPAE flight line, Scheduled delivery date August-30-2012, see : http://paineairport.com/kpae5059.htm

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-06-07 01:17:48 and read 20309 times.

Arial photos (from both sides) by Lee Karas and Matt Cawby :
Perfect line-up of several 747-8 aircraft at the Everett Flight Line, June 6.

Displayed are :

L/N 1456, 747-830, Lufthansa, D-ABYF, unpainted
L/N 1457, 747-867F, Cathay, B-LJH, unpainted
L/N 1446, 747-8JA, HZ-HMS1, white livery
763 LAN
763 Azerbaijan
L/N 1451, 747-830 Lufthansa, D-ABYC
L/N 1431, 747-8KZF, NCA , JA-13KZ


See : http://planepictures.net/netshow.php?id=1145224
See : http://paineairport.com/kpae5074.htm

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: B738FlyUIA
Posted 2012-06-07 01:32:29 and read 20554 times.

Hi all

On LH's 748-I I noticed that on the upper deck after the door on the left side there are 15 windows then a little gap and another 2. On the right side there are only 16 windows after the door. Does somebody know why LH has this? Maybe there is a Crew rest section?

Thanks!

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-06-07 02:05:34 and read 20530 times.

Due Internal cabin-arrangement :

RH side, after window 16 (seat 88K) the aft upper deck lavatory and upper deck (stowage) pantry are installed.(4 missing windows 17-20)
LH side, after window 15,(seat 88A) the stairs is installed.(3 missing windows 16-18) On top of the stairs two windows (19-20) are installed.

LH 747-830 seat plan


The cockpit crew rest is installed just aft of the cockpit (LH side), in front of seats 81 A-C .

[Edited 2012-06-07 02:48:44]

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: B738FlyUIA
Posted 2012-06-07 03:31:28 and read 20436 times.

Quoting 747classic (Reply 232):

Due Internal cabin-arrangement :
RH side, after window 16 (seat 88K) the aft upper deck lavatory and upper deck (stowage) pantry are installed.(4 missing windows 17-20)
LH side, after window 15,(seat 88A) the stairs is installed.(3 missing windows 16-18) On top of the stairs two windows (19-20) are installed.
Quoting 747classic (Reply 232):
The cockpit crew rest is installed just aft of the cockpit (LH side), in front of seats 81 A-C .

Thank you very much 747classic for the info and seat plan  

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-06-07 13:35:02 and read 20137 times.

L/N 1451, RC023, D-ABYC just airborne for her first (B1) flight from Paine Field towards Moses Lake with call sign BOE23.

See : http://boeing.flightaware.com/live/f...3/history/20120607/1730Z/KPAE/KMWH

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: Laddie
Posted 2012-06-12 07:19:39 and read 18940 times.

The 747-8 is getting into a good delivery rhythm. Two deliveries are scheduled for the end of June (RC004 and RC023), and four for July (RC523, RC024, RC558 and RC578). Buena ventura, Boeing.

[Edited 2012-06-12 07:20:54]

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: B738FlyUIA
Posted 2012-06-12 07:37:31 and read 18883 times.

Quoting Laddie (Reply 231):
The 747-8 is getting into a good delivery rhythm .... RC023 ....

That is really great!! And it's D-ABYC! Sorry for asking, has D-ABYB already been delivered?   

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: wilco737
Posted 2012-06-12 07:40:09 and read 18882 times.

Quoting B738FlyUIA (Reply 232):
Sorry for asking, has D-ABYB already been delivered?   

There will be no D-ABYB. Due to the accident with the old 747 back then.

wilco737
  

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-06-12 07:44:11 and read 18883 times.

Quoting B738FlyUIA (Reply 232):
Sorry for asking, has D-ABYB already been delivered?

Registration D-ABYB is not used.
This registration was used for the second LH 747-130, involved in the Nairobi accident on Nov-20-1974, and will not be used again.

Sorry Wilco, our answers crossed.

[Edited 2012-06-12 07:45:46]

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: sweair
Posted 2012-06-12 07:44:31 and read 18890 times.

Wow that upper deck has grown, I have only flown once on the upper deck AF, 747-200? It was the non extended UD iirc, it was really tiny back then.

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: wilco737
Posted 2012-06-12 07:47:27 and read 18894 times.

Quoting 747classic (Reply 234):
Sorry Wilco, our answers crossed.

No problem. Your answer is far more detailed than mine   

Quoting sweair (Reply 235):
Wow that upper deck has grown, I have only flown once on the upper deck AF, 747-200?

Yes, the upper deck is quite long, even compared to the -400. Only the flight deck didn't grow, only the toilette and crew rest is now within the cockpit   

wilco737
  

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: B738FlyUIA
Posted 2012-06-12 08:09:40 and read 18839 times.

Quoting wilco737 (Reply 233):
There will be no D-ABYB. Due to the accident with the old 747 back then.
Quoting 747classic (Reply 234):
This registration was used for the second LH 747-130, involved in the Nairobi accident on Nov-20-1974, and will not be used again.

I'm sorry!!! But thank you for the info.

Quoting sweair (Reply 235):
I have only flown once on the upper deck

Same as me, but only was in the Cockpit on SQ ZRH-LHR back in 1993  

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-06-12 23:39:31 and read 18491 times.

L/N1458/RC578, the next freighter for Atlas Air emerged from the Final Assembly Line.
Will this be the first in Atlas Air livery, observing both rudders, already painted in dark blue?

See unpainted 747-8F aircraft at the LH side of the KPAE flight line picture, shown at Matt cawby's June 12 blog :
http://paineairport.com/images/fl061212.jpg

The exact serial number and registration is still not known, seen the out of sequence numbers of the already produced Atlas Air freighters. Additional info is highly appreciated.

[Edited 2012-06-12 23:45:10]

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: AA757MIA
Posted 2012-06-13 02:00:19 and read 18388 times.

Where is Lufthansa flying the 748? I saw it at FRA yesterday, departing at around 1:30 pm.
Sorry if this has been asked/answered before.

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: wilco737
Posted 2012-06-13 02:16:36 and read 18381 times.

Quoting AA757MIA (Reply 243):
Where is Lufthansa flying the 748? I saw it at FRA yesterday, departing at around 1:30 pm.
Sorry if this has been asked/answered before.

There are several threads about the destinations of the LH 748i.

At the moment we only have one airplane, so it is flying daily: FRA-IAD-FRA
Soon to follow: DEL, BLR, LAX and ORD.

wilco737
  

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-06-14 21:49:31 and read 17982 times.

The next Cathay 747-8 freighter departed from Paine Field for a first (B1) flight with callsign BOE558 : http://boeing.flightaware.com/live/f...8/history/20120614/1800Z/KPAE/KMWH

Aircraft data : L/N 1457 - 747-867F, RC558, serial number 39245, Cathay #8, unpainted, KPAE flight line, registration B-LJH, expected delivery : July 2012.

See : http://boeing-test-flights.blogspot....747-867f-cathay-pacific-cargo.html

For take off video : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSsv9YnZwNg&feature=player_embedded

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-06-16 01:52:32 and read 17575 times.

" Out Door " refurbishment at Paine Field at full speed.

The refurbishment to delivery standard of the first two 747-8I test aircraft (L/N1434 and L/N1435) and one of the early built airframes can now clearly be observed at the Everett flight line. With the upcoming higher temperatures in the next months most of the work can be done outside.

At the following picture ( from Matt Cawby's KPAE blog), three 747-8 aircraft in full refurbishment can be seen : http://paineairport.com/kpae5078.htm


At the back, surrounded by a lot of working platforms, the first 747-8I test aircraft can be seen : N6067E. Still visible is the remainder of the red-orange Boeing sunrise livery. This aircraft was fully test wired and requires the most re-work (removing all the test wiring), also all (test) engines are removed. The aircraft, destined for a VIP customer in Kuwait, will be delivered "green" to a cabin outfitting center in 2012.

Just behind the Air Austral 773, the second 747-8I test aircraft (N6067U) is parked. This aircraft requires less re-work, because only all airline cabin related items had test wiring and test equipment installed. On this aircraft also all engines are removed. (used for ferrying the 747-8I/BBJ aircraft ???). The aircraft is scheduled to be delivered to Lufthansa with registration D-ABYE at the end of September 2012.

At the back ,RH side , HL7610 is parked. This is one of the two early built airframes (L/N1426), original ordered by Guggenheim Aviation Partners for lease to Korean Cargo (KAL). After cancelling the order ( with both aircraft already built) purchased directly by KAL. Refurbishment has started, the engines have been installed a few weeks ago, after storage of the airframe for a long time.

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: SEPilot
Posted 2012-06-16 04:17:55 and read 17460 times.

Quoting 747classic (Reply 242):
also all (test) engines are removed.

I thought that if the engines were removed a tail support or counterweights need to be used to keep the plane from settling on its tail, but I see no sign of them Am I wrong?

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-06-16 05:35:04 and read 17420 times.

Quoting SEPilot (Reply 243):
thought that if the engines were removed a tail support or counterweights need to be used to keep the plane from settling on its tail, but I see no sign of them Am I wrong?

N6067U has counter weights (yellow box, see picture at reply 242) installed at each inboard pylon, to avoid tail tipping with engines removed..
N6067E has AFAICS (CS = Can See ) a tail support installed, see picture from different angle below (enlarged detail view from Matt Cawby's latest Flight line picture ). Pls. look just FWD of the opened APU doors, below the trailing edge of the horizontal stabilzer.

N6067E - tail support


[Edited 2012-06-16 05:46:56]

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: Someone83
Posted 2012-06-19 05:10:10 and read 16661 times.

Quoting 747classic (Reply 242):
At the back ,RH side , HL7610 is parked. This is one of the two early built airframes (L/N1426), original ordered by Guggenheim Aviation Partners for lease to Korean Cargo (KAL). After cancelling the order ( with both aircraft already built) purchased directly by KAL. Refurbishment has started, the engines have been installed a few weeks ago, after storage of the airframe for a long time.

Any idea how much rework this require? And when we might can expect delivery?

Quoting 747classic (Reply 230):
L/N 1451, RC023, D-ABYC just airborne for her first (B1) flight from Paine Field towards Moses Lake with call sign BOE23.

Has this had any more flights or should it be ready for delivery next week?

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: Laddie
Posted 2012-06-19 08:43:50 and read 16483 times.

Quoting Someone83 (Reply 245):
Has this had any more flights or should it be ready for delivery next week?

RC023 should be delivered by the end of June.

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-06-20 23:35:05 and read 16032 times.

Quoting Laddie (Reply 231):
The 747-8 is getting into a good delivery rhythm. Two deliveries are scheduled for the end of June (RC004 and RC023)

RC004/HZ-HMS1, scheduled for a June delivery, made a customer acceptance (C1) flight towards Moses Lake and back at June 20.

See : http://paineairport.com/kpae5157.htm

And : http://boeing.flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE4

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-06-22 00:22:57 and read 15588 times.

Back on the nest again ??????

L/N 1455 / N850GT " The spirit of Panalpina " returned to Paine Field on June 21 to collect some spare parts (thrust reverser ?, not necessary for the 748) destined for Hongkong.

Original uploaded by Moonm, for other sizes see : http://www.flickr.com/photos/moonm/7417533658/in/photostream

The normal schedule of GTI609 was changed from Huntsville (KHSV) - Anchorage (PANC) - Hongkong (VHHH) to Huntsville - Paine Field - Hongkong.

See also Matt cawby's KPAE blog of June 21 : http://kpae.blogspot.nl/2012/06/paine-field-june-21.html

And : http://boeing.flightaware.com/live/flight/GTI609

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: tdscanuck
Posted 2012-06-22 05:03:40 and read 15428 times.

Quoting 747classic (Reply 252):
The spirit of Panalpina " returned to Paine Field on June 21 to collect some spare parts (thrust reverser ?, not necessary for the 748) destined for Hongkong.

That's definitely a thrust reverser. Probably for a 777 (too big for a 767, no chevrons so not a 787 or 747-8).

Tom.

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: Someone83
Posted 2012-06-27 00:19:28 and read 14613 times.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/moonm/7449329086/in/set-72157630005467706

See from moonm's flickr stream that one 747-8i has been on the move from the 787-surge line/old 767 line building (can't remember the building number). Is this LH's 5th D-ABYF?

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: 747classic
Posted 2012-06-27 00:34:26 and read 14605 times.

Quoting Someone83 (Reply 254):
See from moonm's flickr stream that one 747-8i has been on the move from the 787-surge line/old 767 line building (can't remember the building number). Is this LH's 5th D-ABYF?

Yes, L/N1456/D-ABYF was towed from building 40-24, after finished post assembly work (cabin installation ?) towards the flight line.

Building 40-24 is earmarked to house the 787 surge line at the end of 2012.

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: Someone83
Posted 2012-06-27 09:08:12 and read 14347 times.

Quoting 747classic:


Building 40-24

thanks

Any progress on RC004 or RC023? Will they still make it as June deliveries?

Topic: RE: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8
Username: wilco737
Posted 2012-06-27 22:56:45 and read 14023 times.

Thread will be locked now and part 9 is available here:

Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 9 (by wilco737 Jun 27 2012 in Civil Aviation)

wilco737
  


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